Perthworld
Years ago

Olympics: Boomers vs Germany, 31 July 2021

Time: 6:20pm EST/4:20pm WST

Odds: AUS 1.25 GER 5.00

Stats

On paper and according to the odds an easier opponent for us than Italy and similar to Nigeria.

With Baynes being ruled out with injury at least Goorjian has a non-knockout game to utilise Reath more and see what works.

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rjd  
Years ago

Is it known which channel the Australian commentary will be on? Or 7 just shuffles the basketball at their whim?

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Good question. Unlike on Sunday and Wednesday the EPG doesn't specifically mention basketball under the information for the night session coverage on either 7HD or 7mate.

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KET  
Years ago

No swimming tonight to push it to 7two

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Think they are statistically the biggest team in the tournament.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

7+ if they got the English commentary is very good.

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Big game. Need a win.

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I predict that if we win tonight we will top our group with a 3-0 record

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KET  
Years ago

Skip straight to v4.0

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

I think Australia will win but I couldn't put a margin on it. We will either be still working through our stuff or we will come in with our tails up and take this game by the scruff of the neck from the outset. I think we will see the crystalizing of Australia's run-and-gun game come to the fore on this one.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm to scared to make a prediction.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If we lose by 7+ we finish third in the group FFS

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rjd  
Years ago

It's so ridiculous we don't even know which channel to watch this, assuming we don't want the stream with the boring lone FIBA commentator.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

It will be on 7HD as promoted on air a moment ago.

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rjd  
Years ago

Who is this American FIBA commentator? It sounds like he's commentating golf.

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rjd  
Years ago

Why did they omit the Spanish referees name in the introduction? The other two refs were listed.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Dellavedova
Mills
Ingles
Kay
Landale

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AussiePride  
Years ago

Would be great to see Detlef Schrempf and Ewe(Hands of stone)Blab back out there for Germany.

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Young Gun  
Years ago

Sounds like Fran Fraschilla... an international hoops legend. His podcast 'World of Hoops' is really insightful

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Why did they omit the Spanish referees name in the introduction? The other two refs were listed.

The refs are from Argentina, Mexico and USA.

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GordonG  
Years ago


Referees
Fernandez, Juan Argentina
Anderson, Steven USA
Bermudez , Omar Mexico

Commissioner
Schaer Araya, Gabriela Costa Rica

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

Terrible foul call on Ingles by the only ref not in position.

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Red74  
Years ago

Germanys Obst (42) looks like Cam Gliddon....dont like the fake crowd noises

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rjd  
Years ago

"Referees
Fernandez, Juan Argentina
Anderson, Steven USA
Bermudez , Omar Mexico"

Thanks. I thought I heard the American commentator say he was Spanish.

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KET  
Years ago

Fek off with the camera angle

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GordonG  
Years ago

Some of the worst camera angles EVER.

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KET  
Years ago

Makes me woozy

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JB  
Years ago

The camera work is making me dizzy.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Exum loves driving into traffic with no plan. Awful.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wouldn't we have to lose by 17 or more to go to 3rd?

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KET  
Years ago

Maybe the camera operator would play better than the Aussies are atm

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Rain Man  
Years ago

Thanks 7 for the super blurry footage. Loving it

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Wouldn't we have to lose by 17 or more to go to 3rd?

No, as the points from the Nigeria game are disregarded.

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GordonG  
Years ago

Interesting stat there - Goulding yet to score in the tournament. Not that he's had a lot of time on court.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Yesssss Goulding.

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GordonG  
Years ago

Okay, make me look stupid, Goulding :(

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Nice reverse jinx there.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Needed another big, Motum should have been in instead Sobey.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I hate FIBA reffing.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Draw blood by being swiped at on your face yet no foul. Ummm okay FIBA.

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

No blood no foul? Oh wait...

Ref was right there looking at it too.

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Isaac  
Years ago

No blood, no foul.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Sobey is on.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Delly was flopping, obviously. Not sure how he faked the blood though.

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rjd  
Years ago

Kay keeping us in it.

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

Nick Kay continues to impress.

Patty not able to find the range yet, but he's had a number of decent looks.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

We paid good money for this skycam and we're gonna use it regardless of how much is sucks
:/

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Everyone needs to be seasick

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Scout  
Years ago

Camera angles pissing me off

Like Boomers need to do in offence - please stick to the basics

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Sobeys :o

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KET  
Years ago

Damn Thybulle stop getting into foul trouble

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Sobey!
We're surviving his minutes ok so far this game
(touch wood)

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Loungefly  
Years ago

Boomers doing their best opals impression. Zero sets being run on offense

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KET  
Years ago

Reath might struggle with Goorjs system at the Hawks...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Landale bean great

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rjd  
Years ago

Germany looks susceptible to a slasher. Good to see Sobey exploiting this.

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Mat B  
Years ago

>>Boomers doing their best opals impression. Zero sets being run on offense<<

It's absolutely baffling how disorganized out offense is compared to the past 2 international tournaments

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Anonymous  
Years ago

New coach, fair amount of roster changes, 3 pre tournament games together. Is it that baffling?

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AussiePride  
Years ago

Boomers should know to look out for Gliddon in the corner.

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KET  
Years ago

Germans living on the three but Aussies over committing on the close outs and losing their feet

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KET  
Years ago

Isn't Green a guard?

Small ball!

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AussiePride  
Years ago

Mat B is right. Our offense looks very disjointed. Especially since the "beautiful" basketball we played in Rio and World Champs.

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Some dude  
Years ago

German guards are terrible at preventing penetration and they have no shotblocking bigs. Sobey might actually work.

Why are we not seeing more Reith?

Why are we not using Thybulle more effectively?

Why is Ingles not looking to shoot?

WHy do the german bigs shoot so many 3s when they look they are not good at it?

So many questions.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Much better quarter. Good stuff.

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rjd  
Years ago

German Gliddon is killing us.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

I'm disappointed Lukas Wank hasn't got any minutes yet for the Germans.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WTF channel 7, channel switch with 10 seconds to go... nice

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AussiePride  
Years ago

Kay again!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Landale and Kay been good, Sobey done well, still one to many guards in squad. Good game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Missed it. It did they say Baynes would get a medal?

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Yes

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sobey is NBA ready

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Luuuc  
Years ago

The whole topic seems highly hypothetical though.
We're not exactly looking medal-worthy.

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AngusH  
Years ago

Sobey needs to keep attacking the basket, defenders don't respect him and he gives is something there that our other guards don't.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why is reath not getting any court time? Super weird line ups out there

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The loss of Bogut on offence has hurt this squad, our bigs have done great but Bogut size and decision making hurt us at both ends.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I thought Reath answered the questions about why he's not getting more court time in the time he did get. He can obviously do stuff but he's just as obviously a step off the pace defensively, both on the ball and in rotations. Especially with Landale and Kay playing this well, he shouldn't need a ton of time unless we have the game in hand.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Sobey needs to keep attacking the basket, defenders don't respect him and he gives is something there that our other guards don't.

Germany thinks Sobey is wank, since their very own 12th man is actually named that.

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V2.0 is clearly a shonk. The Real Nostraballmus would never make a prophecy so bold.

Cmon u Boomers.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Mills 4pt play. Very nice.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Ten point lead up in smoke. Not nice.

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KET  
Years ago

Stop jumping on the threes.

Start moving in offence.

Try rebounding.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The question on Reath are getting answered, it ain't good.

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Some dude  
Years ago

Pretty this game aint

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FSTOS  
Years ago

Gliddon's best game on the big stage.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Ingles is on a donut, way too passive.

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Some dude  
Years ago

Thyblle getting frustrated with his role?

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Loungefly  
Years ago

Where does Jingles disappear to everytime he puts a boomers jersey on? We need so much more from him that what we're getting

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thybulle is an absolute delight.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Doubt it. Has given us a good spark this quarter.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oh no, sky cam is back

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Some dude  
Years ago

Germany way too happy to force risky perimeter passes. No idea what they are thinking

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Diop Kick  
Years ago

Bad ingles is terrible

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Thybulle on the other hand. What a champion.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Yeah Matisse!

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Mat B  
Years ago

Why is Ingles so passive and unassertive???

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

"Thyblle getting frustrated with his role?"

?

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Germans seem to be arguing with one another on the sideline. Lovely.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thybulle absolute menace, pity no Simmons also

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Luuuc  
Years ago

When Goulding is out there we gotta look for him

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AussiePride  
Years ago

"Ingles is on a donut, way too passive."

Reverse jinx not working.

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Some dude  
Years ago

Not a critique of Thyblle's play. I've been very happy with him.

Moreso, that Thyblle has been very physical with the Germans (slaping at ball on dead ball, knocking guys down on screens etc.), he normally seems quite chill.

It may be nannoyance with the german players individually of course

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We need to play Thybulle 40 mins

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FSTOS  
Years ago

Matisse quickly establishing himself as a Boomers fave.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ingles is struggling badly at the minute, i know he is 'slomo joe' but he looks gased all the time, has the playoff run with the Jazz tired him out?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Surprised Wagner has played so little for them, nba for Orlando.

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Scout  
Years ago

without Thybulle Australia would be stuffed.

He put in

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cooks was needed.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Reath and Joe playing like their confidence is down. Reath also looking unfit.

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

But what were you even basing your original comment re: Thybulle's supposed frustration on, Some Dude?

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Some dude  
Years ago

Mo Wagner may be the worst defensive big and bad 'attitudist' Ive seen in a while. He's always yelling at this teamates while not contributing much

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twenty four  
Years ago

Just me or does 42 for Germany look like Cam Gliddon's long lost twin?

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rjd  
Years ago

Boomers 66 points:

Mills: 19
Other NBAers: 12
NBLers: 35

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Reverse jink was delayed-acting

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Some dude  
Years ago


PlaymakerMo, see my other comment

"...Moreso, that Thyblle has been very physical with the Germans (slaping at ball on dead ball, knocking guys down on screens etc.), he normally seems quite chill"

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Reverse jinx not working.

I tried. :/

Looks like it's working now.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Joe now proving me wrong - YESSSS!!

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

I think you need to look closer. Those guys were exaggerating contact coming off those screens, and the German dude slapped it out of Thybulle's hands.

He continues to look chill and play his game.

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Scout  
Years ago

Goulding flopping in all types of basketball

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Mat B  
Years ago

Great baseline cut Dante

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Gliddon is killing us.

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Some dude  
Years ago

I'm looking closer lol.

He slapped the ball from the german #5 and took it off him, the german slapped back and they had a few words.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Patty putting in some serious work.

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Mat B  
Years ago

Cut- drive - dish.
Nice

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Diop Kick  
Years ago

Fiba mills is Australia's best ever basketball player.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

If Goulding can't hit his shots, at least he’s still contributing- his flops are drawing fouls.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Boomers 2021
"We play to the level until the 4th qtr"

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Some dude  
Years ago

I love it when Patty is playing super aggressive and looking for his shot

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rjd  
Years ago

Mills carrying this team again.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That looks like gliddon on the other team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I LOVE THE BOOMERS

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

Sobey's actually given good minutes this game.

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Mat B  
Years ago

Nick Kay plays like an undercover agent.
Love it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nick Kay is in beast mode

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Diop Kick  
Years ago

Kay really is mr fundamental

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's duop o’clock. Put him on!!

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Nick Kay plays like an undercover agent.

Nah, Gliddon was the mole who defected.

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

So many O-boards....

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Diop Kick  
Years ago

We really need a rebound

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rjd  
Years ago

This repeated offensive boards to a 3 is becoming comical.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Germany are panicking.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Showing a lot of faith in Sobey and he is delivering

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Winning is just habitual for this boomers team

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Perthworld  
Years ago

6-0 this year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why are we trying to finish so strong? Is there an incentive?

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AussiePride  
Years ago

It actually looked like we ran a play when Sobey passed to Landale under the basket. Everything else looks like we are just winging it.

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

Weird how Germany called that timeout and let us get through 20 seconds of the clock without much interference.

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Uncle Phil  
Years ago

Germans obviously pissed at Thybulle putting their offence in the blender

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Cmon Boomers. Get this over with before we switch to the awful SD channel

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nick f***** Kay

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AussiePride  
Years ago

Brilliant!!

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Luuuc  
Years ago

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Now we need USA to obliterate Czech tonight

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rjd  
Years ago

Satisfying win. Mills with another Boomers Mills performance. Kay with another Boomers Kay performance.

I still feel we are a long way off the 2019 form offensively, yet we still put up 89 points. The defense remains solid. Having someone like Thybulle in there is a bonus on the defensive end. Rebounding appears a major issue against bigger teams, so hopefully we can address that moving forward.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The bonus here is we played like crap, couldn't rebound down the stretch and still won.

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KET  
Years ago

No

We need czech to lose by a couple of points and be a third place entry

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm really liking Bogut these days. Good post interview

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So USA will be seeded as long as they win? But if Czech only lose by a little they could go in unseeded?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Very good performance, nbl guys were fantastic, Mills should spend his last season in the nba as a starter, go play at LA with lebron. Landale if doesn't get nba is going to get a massive contract in a big euro league club.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Need to know how to cheer for the USA game

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Perthworld  
Years ago

So USA will be seeded as long as they win? But if Czech only lose by a little they could go in unseeded?

Correct on both counts. Czechs still need to hope Argentina don't smash Japan tomorrow. It looks to be either Germany/Czechia or Germany/Argentina going through as the two best third-placed teams.

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KET  
Years ago

And we want czech to go through.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Need to know how to cheer for the USA game

If USA smash the Czechs they will be the best second-placed team. If it's a close win though then Slovenia is a threat if they lose by a small margin to Spain tomorrow. Let's go with the former please.

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rjd  
Years ago

So if Germany look like they will be one of the unseeded teams, and Italy are through, that's two teams we can't be matched up against in the quarters. So it's 50-50 we play one of the two other unseeded teams in the quarters.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

Cheers for the stats Luuuc was stuck at a boring in law function.

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KET  
Years ago

USA will go through as the top second seed.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Yes, so either Argentina/Czechia or loser of Slovenia-Spain.

50% chance of Slovenia-Spain loser. That sucks.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

^ reply to rjd

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KET  
Years ago

Yeah and we'd rather czech over Argentina imo.

Assuming Spain loses, if Australia drew Spain that’d be fucked.

Can’t be denied a medal again by them.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We want Argentina not czech, Czech or huge.

Argentina aren't that good, could be Japan.

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Rat10  
Years ago

Agree rjd very satisfying win. Olympic Patty playing to his usual high quality standard. Thybulle playing some of the best defense in that 3rd quarter I've ever seen for any player in the green and gold.

We definitely miss the elite level rim protection and world class rebounding that Bogut has provided in previous Olympics and World Championships and Baynes going down exposes this even more. But compared to Rio we do have some things in our favour, 1 being a defensive beast on the wings in Thybulle. He just has to stay out of foul trouble. Exum is very good on the wings too. Landale is also a better player than he was in Rio as is Nick Kay. Offsetting that is that Delly has regressed but he's still a bulldog on the defensive end.

Clearly in hindsight if you knew Baynes was going to go down you would have taken another big but I really like the Sobey selection as he provides a spark off the bench for when the Boomers' offence struggles. There's not a lot of guys that can create their own shot and he can. He was great at slashing to the rack tonight, picked up a steal and threw a beautiful dime to Landale.

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Scout  
Years ago

Yeah enjoy Bogut's commentary on basketball, on everything else he reminds me of a combination of a QANON nutter combined with Pauline Hanson sympathiser on social media trying to get some self-definition.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Add Simmons n Daniels to this team in 24 and our defense goes up another notch.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So given Slovenia are favourites over Spain and USA are expected to annihilate Czech. Am I right in saying we have a 50/50 chance of facing one of either Argentina or Spain?

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

I am not sure what I am watching when I watch these Boomers. The offense seems stagnant and tentative. The basketball looks sloppy, a bit ugly. Defensively we've left a lot of things wide open. We're getting completely spanked on the rebounds.

.... And yet... we STILL win. I don't understand it. There must be something I am not seeing. Yes, Patty MIlls is basically Michael Jordan for the Boomers. Landale has stepped up. Kay. Thybulle. I get it. But I just don't get how we keep winning when we don't look to be playing anywhere near our potential or anywhere near where we were at in 2019.

If anyone can explain it for me I'd appreciate that. Are we just playing lesser teams than we were before?

I am not sure whether to be worried when we face the better teams or be extremely confident knowing we seem to have a knack for getting a w? We're undefeated across six games so far and yet I still cant visually see how.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Yes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think we become more critical given how invested we are. We analyse every issue. Go back and watch the highlights and there are some very strong plays.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who's Simmons, is he any good?

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Loungefly  
Years ago

I hope it's just playing down to the competition and doing enough to keep the players as fresh as possible and even more so that there is a playbook over on the bench somewhere and we are still hiding some of our cards

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another 30+ minutes for mills, he will be too exhausted by the semi final comes.
Should have rested mills and play Green more minutes today as this is a dead rubber.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If Spain can play Pau Gasol at 41 years old, Bogut should've been able to get a run at 36.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Would we rather face Slovenia or Spain?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

ME, I think the points on the board are testament to the offence being just fine. It's not as pretty as the IQ, movement-driven stuff we saw under Lemanis, but there's stuff where we're just putting 5 shooters on the arc and letting Patty go to work. I get the lack of visual appeal, but why complicate it when that works? We couldn't do that with Bogut on the floor because he was a non-shooter, so we had to make up for it in other ways. And those ways were nicer to watch, but not necessarily more effective.

This team should have a ton of confidence from taking the punches from Italy and Germany and still coming out on top. The rebounding failures late in that one were frustrating but they came on the heels of effortful defensive scrambles that we probably didn't have the mobility to put together in previous incarnations. I'm dreading a tough QF draw, but I also think we're due against Spain. Hopefully the stars align.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

#170, really glad you weren't in charge as it definitely wasn't a dead rubber. We could have finished anywhere from 1st-3rd in the pool based on result of that game.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Yeah, it bothers me that we depend too much on Patty for points and minutes.

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Senator11  
Years ago

This wasn't a dead rubber to the anon, if we lost by under 6pts we would have been 2nd in our group, if we lost by over 7pts then we slip to possible 3rd in our group.

Patty was not on in the first half and feel he doesn't need to keep shooting as we have other solid offensive options in Landale, Kay etc. There is going to be a game where Mills gets absolutely blanketed and then we're screwed because we don't know what else to do. I'm convinced if Patty has taken 5 less shots the team would have been further ahead. If he's on fire go for it, but he was missing a lot of shots and everyone was looking to him. Thybulle, Ingles all passing up open shots to get it to Patty, it's gonna bite us.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah but he did get blanketed by Italy and everyone handled it great. In some ways a cold Patty is worse for us than a Patty being double- and triple-teamed. As long as Ingles doesn't have another game like that one we should be ok.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

With Scola and Gasol both producing at 40+ I'm thankful Mills will only be 36 in Paris.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We shouldn't fear Spain. We earned the right not to face USA, France, Slovenia/Spain. If we fear Spain then we should fear those teams much more. We are 3 wins away from Gold. Spain are good but they aren’t the Spain of yesteryear. I mean Pau Gasol is 41 now!

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Mat B  
Years ago

Play off fatigue notwithstanding, can anyone explain why Ingles is so tentative and evidently reluctant to create?
He's an elite shooter and creates off the dribble, yet he was giving up open looks tonight and appeared to be a different player to what we see at Utah.
To me, when he's aggressive - both for his own shot, and in initiating offense that creates opportunities for team mates - it's a win win for the whole team.

Id like to Exum develop a jumper off the dribble for when the interior isn't a viable option because he can often take his defender off the dribble seemingly easily. If he could develop a post game, even better given that he's often tall and longer than his defender.
Have there been many guards with a good post game since Jordan/Kobe/Wade?

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Please, not Spain. I couldn't handle FIBA refs helping them out AGAIN.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can we get a GIF of Thybulle saying 'don't do that’?

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

"Another 30+ minutes for mills, he will be too exhausted by the semi final comes.
Should have rested mills and play Green more minutes today as this is a dead rubber."


Where does this 'dead rubber' myth come from, the idiot on 7 plus saying the result didnt matter for Australia because we still go to the quarter finals? It directly matters as to the level of team we're expected to face in that quarter final. We dodge USA, France and most likely Spain in the knock out round because of winning that 'dead rubber'. Instead of having 3 tough games left, we have a winnable game and 2 tough games. Only an idiot would do anything less than play this game to win.

As for Mills, he will have three days off until the next game Tuesday. Then a day off til Thursday. Then a day off til Saturday medals if we should make it. I think he is very capable of keeping this up. Let's remember the World Cup had 2 extra games in each pool and each game was with one day's rest, not two. It will be a rest, then 3 tough games in a row. Confident he'll be fine. If anything he's getting more rest now with Exum, Thybulle, Green, Delly etc on deck than he ever was at the cup.

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Mat B  
Years ago

>>Please, not Spain. I couldn't handle FIBA refs helping them out AGAIN.<<
Absolutely. The favouritism they get is absurdly obvious.
Also, I couldn't stand to watch Rubio and co's theatrical flopping again. Shots me up the wall. So irritating that the refs fall for it.
Yes, we flop occasionally, but it's *nothing*
compared to the Spanish.

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ME, one school of thought, that I don't subscribe to mind you, is that the Boomers haven’t played anyone yet.

The Argies are clearly not the team they were in 2019.
Nigeria, we’ll, have gone 0-3
The USA in preparation
Italy, Germany, both surprising qualifiers

We can only beat who’s in front of us. We are about to find out more.

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Ben  
Years ago

Came here to see if anyone else had picked up on the German Cam Gliddon.

Was not disappointed.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Czech Republic up against the US. Can't see them winning, tho

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

"Italy, Germany, both surprising qualifiers"


Surprising qualifiers but they're battle tested, and beat some tough European teams to be there, most notably Serbia and Brazil.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Czech beating USA. Is a best case scenario that ISA win by one point?

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Perthworld  
Years ago

It's a double-edged sword as though we'd like to have a chance at drawing the Czechs you don't want USA winning by a small margin. A narrow loss by Slovenia tomorrow would mean resulting the US not being seeded which so they could potentially become a quarter final opponent for us.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

A narrow loss by Slovenia tomorrow would result in the US not being seeded so they become a potential quarter final opponent for us.*

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Anonymous  
Years ago

OK not worth the risk. I'm just going to hope USA smash them.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Enjoyable game to watch. Seemed like they were well-matched for much of the game, before pulling clear. All contributed; Sobey will be a lot better for having a longer, more positive run. Reath didn't seem confident offensively, so it was like we had more or less two bigs. But keeping everyone on the same page and having an impact might be the key for now.

Still a lot of minutes for Patty, and running constantly. But every team besides the US will have similar dependencies that are wearing down the deeper we go into the tournament.

Wonder if there's anyone who's not a Thybulle fan having watched these games? What a great addition.

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LV  
Years ago

Why would Slovenia go ahead of USA if they lose narrowly?

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LV  
Years ago

Oh right you wrote that early in the USA game

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Perthworld  
Years ago

May as well repost this from the other thread:

Our possible QF opponents are now either:

Winner of Argentina-Japan

or

Loser of Slovenia-Spain

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JB  
Years ago

And the USA can only play Italy or the loser of Spain vs Slovenia. Big game that one, as the loser gets to play the USA or Aus!

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JB  
Years ago

Sorry I'm wrong. Ignore me!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

With regards to mills and his playing time, keep in mind there's 2 days in between games where you hope for at least 1 of them goorj has them doing nothing other than a meeting + film. The other day would likely be light practices just to ensure now that with particularly baynes going down we can’t afford anymore injuries.

Wasn’t the World Cup also every 2nd day for games whereas this is every 3rd?

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JB  
Years ago

Yes, fitness should not be a major issue, with only 6 games over 2 weeks, and no travel, compared with World Cup (8 games and some travel around China, at least for some teams - not sure where everyone played)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Shorter than usual tournament (6 games, rather than 8) affords playing guys heavy minutes and limits the exposure of missing Baynes IMO. We can hang in there for three more games.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Shorter than usual tournament (6 games, rather than 8) affords playing guys heavy minutes and limits the exposure of missing Baynes IMO. We can hang in there for three more games.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I feel like we might need a Bubbles game to get us through this tournament

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mills needs to go to the basket more instead of taking the 3. he scores himself off the drive but more importantly the D crashes on him and he can dish off for an easy basket to a cutter

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RobT  
Years ago

I am impressed that Gurujian had Sobey on-court at the final buzzer. That must have been a real boost for Sobey.

His spark off the bench was extremely helpful. Not game-winning, by any stretch of the imag, but a great burst at the right time.

This is that same game that Sobey can dominate back home. Give us his usual and that'll be fine. Brought himself right back for more meaningful mins, we hope.

Well done.

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LV  
Years ago

Patty Mills- National Treasure

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's sad they shortened the tournament just to fit in 3 x 3. It has devalued the tournament for mine. I know FIBA want the WC to be their flagship event but the Olympics has always held that mystique.

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Boomer611  
Years ago

So if a lot of sources are correct and the highest 2nd seed cannot face a 3rd seed (ie Germany and Argentina/Japan) then there's 4 scenarios that play out.

For simplicity sake let's say Slovenia and Argentina win out. Then USA can't face Germany/Argentina. Australia can't face Italy/Germany. Slovenia can't face Spain or Argentina. France can face anyone.

Scenario 1
Australia vs Spain
USA vs Italy
Slovenia vs Germany
France vs Argentina

Scenario 2
Australia vs Argentina
USA vs Spain
Slovenia vs Italy
France vs Germany

Scenario 3
Australia vs Argentina
USA vs Spain
Slovenia vs Germany
France vs Italy

Scenario 4
Australia vs Argentina
USA vs Italy
Slovenia vs Germany
France vs Spain

I'm not 100% sure if that's correct but if it is then we have a 1/4 chance to face the loser of Spain/Slovenia and a 3/4 chance of facing the winner of Argentina/Japan

Feel free to delete this if wrong

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RobT  
Years ago

Fair-suck-of-the-sauce-bottle! That is a brilliant breakdown. Thank you.

[If Bommer611 is wrong, PLEASE, nobody correct it.]

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

I think your summary looks right but the forboding terror I have about Spain and France really irks me. we have to be a lot better than we've shown if we're expecting to knock either of them off. I would hope and pray we get Argentina and make vat improvements before any crossover with any top 4 squad.

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rjd  
Years ago

Am I missing something? I get there are 8 possible valid draws, out of 24 possible draws (if being matched with teams from your own group were allowed). I'm assuming that Spain and Argentina win, but substitute the applicable teams if those results differ.

Australia Argentina
Spain Italy
France Germany
USA Slovenia

Australia Argentina
Spain Italy
France Slovenia
USA Germany

Australia Argentina
Spain Germany
France Italy
USA Slovenia

Australia Argentina
Spain Germany
France Slovenia
USA Italy

Australia Slovenia
Spain Italy
France Germany
USA Argentina

Australia Slovenia
Spain Italy
France Argentina
USA Germany

Australia Slovenia
Spain Germany
France Italy
USA Argentina

Australia Slovenia
Spain Germany
France Argentina
USA Italy


Which means it's still 50-50 for the Boomers getting either Slovenia/Spain or Argentina/Japan.

Either way, time to watch both of these next two games to scout our next opponent!

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rjd  
Years ago

"the highest 2nd seed cannot face a 3rd seed (ie Germany and Argentina/Japan)"

I see, didn't get that part. Is this mentioned anywhere in the FIBA website? If so, then yes, only 4 valid draws possible.

Australia Argentina
Spain Italy
France Germany
USA Slovenia

Australia Argentina
Spain Germany
France Italy
USA Slovenia

Australia Argentina
Spain Germany
France Slovenia
USA Italy

Australia Slovenia
Spain Germany
France Argentina
USA Italy

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RobT  
Years ago

Really, it's a bit 50 - 50 IMO. We have had Nigeriyanks, Italy, Germany, none of them easy-beats. Luckily in that order. We got better each game, as has everyone.

Nigeriyanks are out.

Germany is a great team but we took care of that game, without our super-centre, comfortably, in the end.

Italy, which too many of us don't seem worried about, were one, missed, buzzer-beater away from a poss win (that on, with our super-centre!). Just like for us in the WC's, and we're still lamenting how close we got...just as the Italians will do. Next game, between us, especially if it happens at this Olympics, they will be out to get us. Who wins that one? Could we end up v Italy for the Gold/Silver or for Bronze/Nadda? First, both teams need to get past the next round.

Oye,Oye, OYE!

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Spain has overtaken us as second favourites overnight. Can't help but think there will be some shenanigans with the draw.

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rjd  
Years ago

""the highest 2nd seed cannot face a 3rd seed (ie Germany and Argentina/Japan)"

Sorry, everyone, this is not mentioned in the FIBA document related to the draw.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

I believe that was copied over from Wikipedia which has always read like an error to me.

It doesn't make sense the #2 overall seed is precluded from facing a third-placed team - thatt would mean being seeded at #3 and #4 is more advantageous.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

I'm specifically referring to this:

The second-placed team from Pot D cannot be drawn against the third-placed teams from Pot E.


Note Pot D are the four seeded sides, Pot E unseeded. Makes no sense to me.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

(We are currently #2 in Pot D.)

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rjd  
Years ago

"Spain has overtaken us as second favourites overnight. "

Boomers did lose their starting centre. In pre-Olympics discussions, what would've we assessed our chances as without Baynes, Bogut and Humphries? IMO, we are underdogs if we are drawn to play Spain or Slovenia.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

If Spain is kept separate from the US and has the easier road to the final then the conspiracy theorists might just have a point about FIBA

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Perthworld  
Years ago

rjd yes but the odds only moved overnight. Baynes was injured on Wednesday.

What is suspicious is Spain having the benefit of playing the very last pool game so they have the benefit of knowing exactly what they need.

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

I would tip the Boomers to beat Argentina in a crossover but not necessarily anyone else. We don't pass the eye test in my book. I want to be wrong but we've looked too disjointed and like we've maybe been a bit lucky to get the pool we have. We need to tidy up our rebounds massively if we expect to take down France, USA or Spain. I might even put Slovenia in that group as well. We need more out of guys like Delly and Goulding when it comes to outside shooting. And to win those games we need to control the tempo from the outset. If we don't get Spain into a running game, I am not sure our half court play will beat them. Maybe we've been playing down to our opponents level and maybe we step up as the competition does? I don't know. But from everything I have seen so far, and with the loss of Baynes, I do struggle to see how we push ourselves to a medal. I want to be very wrong about that.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

We all know where FIBA's headquarters is

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

Someone said something about a secret playbook. Yes, I hope we have some looks that we haven't seen yet. I know that teams hold things back and we're going to need to have some things up our sleeves if we're really legitimately trying to medal. The Baynesy injury was beyond cruel but if we do manage to medal it will be one of the great Australian sporting triumphs. We're winning, and winning really ugly. Winning is a habit, and good teams always find a way. But I don't think we should allow ourselves to be fooled by our record. We're yet to see a top 4-5 level team. Of course, so are Spain (at the moment) and Slovenia. Only France and USA have faced off against eachother. There are still unknowns about our team and also about the level of our harshest competition when faced with real pressure.

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koberulz  
Years ago

I said when Lemanis left that we'd be lucky to get out of our pool. We did get lucky, in that there was an extra year of delay which also forced Brown out and gave us a bit more prep time, and we got a weak pool.

But I'd still much rather have Lemanis coaching this team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What odds are you looking at Perthworld?

Seems to be a big difference in odds between Sportsbet and the odds checker website on Google

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Betfair.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Slovenia's odds have come in now as well.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Interesting. Sportsbet had Boomers as second favourite this morning with $1.40 odds. I'd imagine there would be people cleaning out with arbitrage betting.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

$1.40 odds to medal I mean

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Luuuc  
Years ago

How are we shorter odds than France?
It feels to me like 4th is once again our most likely result, with our 2nd-most-likely result being losing in the quarters.

Is there a market where you can bet on us NOT winning a medal? I'd like to get a piece of that action. That's a win-win situation.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How are Spain odds so short to medal when they may have to face USA, France or Australia in the next knockout round.

Is Germany or Argentina through?

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Is there a market where you can bet on us NOT winning a medal? I'd like to get a piece of that action. That's a win-win situation.


Yes, you can lay (i.e bet against) Australia in the 'To Win a Medal' market on Betfair. Last price matched was 2.00 so that's even money. We were shorter before prices started to move yesterday.

Trust me I've also thought about it as an emotional hedge where I win money if we don't medal yet again.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who are we cheering for in Spain vs Slovenia?

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Spain? If they win we avoid them in the quarter final draw.

However Doncic is an X-Factor for Slovenia so it may be a case of be careful what you wish for.

Spain were favourites but now the odds have flip-flopped and Slovenia are. What are these sneaky Euros up to?

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KET  
Years ago

Agreed Luuuc

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We'd rather play Slovenia than Spain?

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

Betting against the Boomers medalling just wouldn't feel right to me.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Yeah, and that's why I've contemplated it but not pulled the trigger.

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

I hope people aren't projecting the Boomers' possible outcomes on what the bookies say lol.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

We'd rather play Slovenia than Spain?

If the weird clause below (which doesn't make sense to me) is true:
"The second-placed team from Pot D cannot be drawn against the third-placed teams from Pot E."

Spain win = we face Slovenia in the QF, as the #2 seed is precluded from drawing a third-placed team. If that clause is incorrect add in Argentina as a possibile opponent.

Slovenia win = we face either Spain or Argentina in the QFs, as the #3 seed.

So our possible QF opponent is either the loser of Slovenia-Spain or Argentina.

The issue from Spain and Slovenia's point of view is the loser has a 33% chance of facing USA, so I assume there will be no tanking.

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

Apparently we have a 3/4 chance of playing Argentina is that right?

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

Apparently we have a 3/4 chance of playing Argentina is that right?

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Perthworld  
Years ago

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Apparently we have a 3/4 chance of playing Argentina is that right?

50%.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think I'd rather deal with Spain. I know it's quite possible we'd play Slovenia and Luka would play like a superstar and we'd beat them, but I don't think I could handle watching him play like a superhuman and us be knocked out based on someone hitting 60% on step-back 3's and scoring 50 points. At least with Spain there's no one who's going to come in and put together a game you just can't do anything about.

That's the emotional side of me, though. I think we would beat Slovenia more often than we'd beat Spain. Of course I'd rather we get Argentina in the QF... I just hope the Boomers wouldn't take a sigh of relief at that draw and get ahead of themselves. I'm going to be a wreck until this is over.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hope like hell the US gets Slovenia/Spain and we get rid of one of them in the quarters. That's a pretty huge bonus if we draw Argentina.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Apparently we have a 3/4 chance of playing Argentina is that right?

Since the FIBA website also mentions in their latest draw press release "The second-placed team from Pot D cannot be drawn against the third-placed teams from Pot E." the permutations for the draw are as follows:

Result of ESP-SLO / Possible AUS opponent

Slovenia win = Argentina 50%/Spain 50%
Spain win by more than 12 = Argentina 50%/Slovenia 50%
Spain win by less than 12 = Slovenia 100%

The last scenario is ridiculous but is due to FIBA's strange treatment of the #2 seed.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Spain win by exactly 12 = both ESP & AUS would have the same points differential so the tie-breaker is number of total points scored. Currently AUS 259; ESP 169. So we would want Spain to score over 90 in this unlikely scenario to avoid seed #2 and a shot at Argentina.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think I like that Spain by +12 scenario

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If we face Slovenia we need Thybulle tagging Luka the whole game

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koberulz  
Years ago

The rule about the second seed just means that finishing first in your pool is better than being the best second placed team, right? That seems to make sense to me.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

It does say second-placed rather than second-seeded so that makes sense.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

So:

Slovenia win = Argentina 50%/Spain 50%
Spain = Argentina 50%/Slovenia 50%

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So the US has to face the Slovenia/Spain loser or Italy, rather than Germany or Argentina. That makes sense

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Yes. I wish FIBA clearly stated second place of Pot A/B/C instead of the newly classified Pot D, as the second-placed team is actually the fourth seed of the new group. FIFA's communication is so much better.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

slightly higher chance of playing Argentina than the loser of spain/slovenia.
Reason is the loser s/s could be drawn into quarter final, before Australia's oppenent is drawn.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Good point - you would think France as top seed would draw their opponent first. Hopefully that will be Spain.

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koberulz  
Years ago

That's....not how it works.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

What is the mechanism of the draw?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

teams are likely to be selected from Pot D.

The the available options added to Pot E to be selected.

If the USA or France are selected before Australia, each of USA or France could get drawn against Spain.

So the odds of drawing Argentina are probably more like 60%

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Random pot drawings UEFA style? Hopefully there are no hot balls. ;)

FIBA website is hopeless.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Is the draw televised (and probably legit) or just announced (and likely not so legit)?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If the draw was random and France drew Italy and Australia drew Spain, the USA would have available options.

so not sure how random it is going to be. Hopefully USA has to select first.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

FIBA website instructs to watch the draw via your official Olympics broadcaster. The question is will it be on the same general basketball feed we've been watching the games on.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

odds favour
Slovenia - Germany
Australia - Argentina
USA or France - equal odds of Spain or Italy

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