Anonymous
Years ago
http://www.fiba.basketball/news/slovenia-and-france-break-into-top-five-of-the-fiba-world-ranking-presented-by-nike
How does Slovenia leap frog France?
proud
Years ago
What an amazing sport we love at the international level.
Worry not about the semantics of where teams are placed, just appreciate that we have so many countries that are playing this sport and producing NBA players and becoming stronger.
We have so many great players/countries that miss big tournaments and It only excites more to see Lithuania and Serbia types more and see their redemptions... so many stories to be told going forward especially with how the Boomers and Tall Blacks go forward with Ben Simmons and Steven Adams potentially being added for future tournaments.
I absolutely love it and only wish we had more tournaments coming up... kinda jealous how cricket and rugby play so many internationals each year in comparison to basketball
Mystro
Years ago
Steven Adams isn't going to play for the Tall Blacks.
His chip on his shoulder with BBNZ from when he was a kid will always put a stop to that.
Grovermister
Years ago
having a look at how they come up with the totals...
need to be a mathematician
looks worse than the duckworth lewis debacle that is run in cricket...
Senator11
Years ago
Can't take too much out of this, it's always dependent on what players are playing in those tournaments, but top 6 looks right. Greece maybe higher with Giannis although he's never been amazing at FIBA level yet. Canada is a team that could be a lot higher, but seem to care less than USA.
The Ibek-Way
Years ago
I havn't looked into too much but have they changed the system to add extra weight to regional comps (Asia cup, Eurobasket and such)
I always thought it a bit weird that Australia and Argentina were 3 and 4 but they could be there because they are the best of their regions. likewise, slovenia only took 4th in the olympics but they won the eurobasket which could place them above France?
But at the same time, not a single African team in the top 20? Anyone have any insight on this?
The Ibek-Way
Years ago
So after posting i bothered to actually check, yes, regional compoitions are included so teams that are dominant in their region (Australia and Argentina) will score highly. Teams that win the eurobasket comp also score highly because you get more points for that then other regional comps...
"Steven Adams isn't going to play for the Tall Blacks.
His chip on his shoulder with BBNZ from when he was a kid will always put a stop to that."
Yeah, that sucks a bit. I mean, his issue is with Basketball NZ and fair enough, but can he not see the benefit of playing for his country, helping to inspire the next generation of kiwis and showing the world the strength of NZ basketball? If not, I just think it's flat out un-patriotic. But whatever. he can do him.
"But at the same time, not a single African team in the top 20? Anyone have any insight on this?"
I have an insight on this - they're not very good.
"France 3rd wc, 2nd olympics
5th..."
Yeah I thought that was pretty weird too. They must have absolutely crashed and burned in the previous Olympics.
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Anyway, I am really proud of our Boomers - THIRD IN THE WORLD. It's a placing we've had for a while now that is finally validated and solidified with a medal. we've paid our dues and we've been consistent across the past 5 plus years to be here as a genuine world power in the sport. Couldn't be happier with the team and with the state of the sport in this country. As chopper might say, "fukkn tops!"
rjd
Years ago
" teams that are dominant in their region (Australia and Argentina) will score highly."
But regions are weighted differently. Our wins in Asia are not weighted as much as wins in Euro championships.
rjd
Years ago
"How does Slovenia leap frog France?"
I guess they also received more points for winning Olympic qualification games. It's a system based on wins (depending on opposition, margin, game importance, etc), with bonuses for placements in tournaments. Slovenia picked off some extra scalps in qualification.
Women's rankings coming out will be interesting, heads should roll if they drop out of top 5
System needs to change for sure. More points rewarded for major tournaments.
Slovenia won the 2017 Eurobasket, which is weighted the highest of any non major tournament.
However, I struggle to see how they can be ranked above France given Slovenia didn't qualify for the major tournaments in 2016 and 2019, and France finished 6th and 3rd in those and blitzed the WC qualifiers?
System fked
Canada 4th?
http://www.fiba.basketball/news/usa-on-top-of-fiba-women-s-rankings-while-china-and-japan-join-top-eight
proud
Years ago
@Mystro, my apologies mate, I just remember Adams hating in Australia because of the underarm so I thought he'd love to get a go at getting himself some retribution but he comes across as far more complex and complicated than what his game shows.
I'm a massive fan of his game and would love to see him playing for Tall Blacks
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