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Earlier this month

Calvin Bruton Jr named as Adelaide 36ers Head coach

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Stevy  
Earlier this month

Nice! finally confirmed. I wish him all the best!

Does anybody have a good idea of what kind of offensive and defensive schemes he will run? I haven't seen any Bullets games when he was an assistant. Maybe he will just take a large part of their system or whatever.

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KET  
Earlier this month

Mhm 3 year deal

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Big Ads  
Earlier this month

KET,

Given everything which has occurred these past few weeks I guess we can safely assume CJ had the whip hand.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

KET...contracts mean nothing these days, just ask Conner.

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ME  
Earlier this month

I think my main concern is that CJ wasn't their first option, or second, or arguably third. Makes me wonder what we missed out on and whether management is really behind CJ or if it's just the best of a bad situation. I also would have preferred a coach with head coaching experience, yet of course, you do have to start somewhere. It cant be any worse than Gaze. I have a feeling CJ's career and personality have him well positioned to be a good coach. And hopefully by the end of the season we're talking about how great a move it was.

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Anon  
Earlier this month

How do you know CJ wasn't a top 2/3 option? From two disgruntled people on social media?
Assume the call went to Brett Brown as a are you interested? No (no great surprise). But it’s been built up as they missed their number 1 target.
Impartial people in the media always said Brown wasn’t an option, but you have to ask.

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LoveBroker  
Earlier this month

If this were dating, the Adelaide 36'ers swiped right at everything they saw on Tinder and got nothing.

Success came when they changed to Grindr.

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Isaac  
Earlier this month

An interstate candidate isn't going to rush over without a few years on offer given the impact on family and kids.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

He will do well. I've always been a neutral supporter, just liked the nbl and loved Gleesons work, now I think I’ll follow the Sixers in spite of JVG.

Go Sixers.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this month

An interstate candidate isn't going to rush over without a few years on offer given the impact on family and kids.


Conner Henry came from overseas got a 3 year deal and was fired after only one year.

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KET  
Earlier this month

I imagine Isaac would be aware of that ;)

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Zodiac  
Earlier this month

That post suggests he doesn't and I also mentioned it because the 36ers admin when they fired Henry deliberately misled the public by implying he only signed a 2 year deal.

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this month

Maybe year 3 was a mutual or team option and it is their interpretation that that's not a real year.

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Isaac  
Earlier this month

Conner Henry came from overseas got a 3 year deal and was fired after only one year.
What's the relevance of that? Players and coaches alike routinely run the gauntlet of whether they'll get paid out if terminated early. On CJ's side, he's weighing a likely pay rise, upgraded job title and the contract length. Risk is having to either fly back to kids regularly or move them all interstate.

If I move interstate for three years of money but get sent home after one year, but get paid for another year or more of idle time, that's just how it is.

That 2-3 year discrepancy from Henry could be a typo or a mix up or a negotiation or a contractual oddity.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

CJ spent a time under Lemanis both as a player and a coach. I suspect we'll see similar offensive concepts.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Nbl really scraping bottom of barrel in coaching department this year.
We could do alot better

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Please tell us who oh (non) wise one. So many arse hats just post crap denigrating players, coaches etc and then say "We could do a lot better"
Please tell us or STFU.

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KET  
Earlier this month

Unnecessary adverse reaction.

Every fan base wants experienced reputable coaches, and asks questions as to why anyone not experience isn't yet experienced.

They are fair questions.

We know nothing about CJ Bruton, but now he’s our coach, hopefully he’ll develop the culture and a good playing style that’s successful and entertaining and has the players happy.

If he gets early wins on the board he’ll become well loved in Adelaide, don’t you worry about that.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this month

I just thought it was an odd thing to mention given Henry came from even further away than interstate and the third year probably isn't even guaranteed as Henry's likely wasn't.

In reality there's probably only 1.5 years of security in CJ's deal like Henry.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this month

Maybe year 3 was a mutual or team option and it is their interpretation that that's not a real year.


It was good enough to mention in the press release when they signed him just like they've done again with CJ.

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Big Ads  
Earlier this month

#731 Welcome to Hoops.com.au Calvin Senior.

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KET  
Earlier this month

What if it's a team option? Is that a thing with coaches?

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Roger Murdoch  
Earlier this month

I have no idea what kind of coach CJ will be but I'm glad we have a coach now and glad it's not Connor Henry.
I just hope the club gives CJ everything he needs because we can't keep hiring and firing coaches which is where we are if we sack CJ after a year and a half.
Stability breads success I believe.

I get the hypocrisy of seeing the end of CH but would argue once is not down the slippery slope yet

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Zodiac  
Earlier this month

What if it's a team option? Is that a thing with coaches?


Yes it is.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Would imagine with a 2-3 year contract he'd move the whole family here, either renting out current house and renting here, at least in short term. With covid still swirling around and probably so into the new year, would think a rookie head coach would want family support here without risk of being locked out interstate from family.
Now comes the next stage of picking assistants. Could he go down the local route and look at a KB if he hasn't been banished. God help us if Flynn or Jantke get into his ear. Is Brad Hill an option, not sure of their relationship but has been on sidelines a couple seasons (apart from when he was still employed as player), but a local guy who's been around a few places as well.

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Gazeee  
Earlier this month

Connor was 2+1 so 3 years yes but third was a club option that could be triggered , would suspect cj would be the same

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Roger Murdoch  
Earlier this month

I hope his family is here. Really tough being away from family and a rookie coach.

Assistants ? I hope he is clear who wants and gets who wants

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Zodiac  
Earlier this month

Has Jamie Pearlman been given the arse after one year too?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Was hoping for complete local lineup

Gleeson - Perth
Nielsen - Sydney
Goorjan - illawara
Beveridge - tasmania
Henare - nz
Dennis - brisbane
Forde - cairns
Rillie - Adelaide
Vickerman - Melbourne
Mitchell - sem

+ (future)
McMains - Wellington
Caporn - Canberra

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Isn't McMains American?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Unless CJ wants Pearlman he's toast as well. Not sure what his contract was, could have maybe been a year to see if CH liked working with him. But another one that was shafted with the late sacking. Wonder if he had to quarantine before he was told face to face?

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KET  
Earlier this month

" Was hoping for complete local lineup"

In what way is that local might I ask?

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Just a fan  
Earlier this month

Good old zodiac always loves to rant about the same stuff bagging the 36ers... jeez sounds like another grumpy old journalist who doesn't get off Twitter

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Triton 73  
Earlier this month

How would you feel knowing you were 6th choice, and already have team and coaches selected for you, and if don't play finals, will probably get the ass! And how would Janie Pearlman feel knowing every coach in the country was sought out for the job, yet he was not considered. Typical 6ers under JVG and Kelly

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

"Conner Henry came from overseas got a 3 year deal and was fired after only one year."

And got a payout in return. That's the security of a multi-year deal.

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RobT  
Earlier this month

@ Triton 73

"How would you feel knowing you were 6th choice, and already have team and coaches selected for you, and if don't play finals, will probably get the ass!"

Bloody awful!

BUT! What an opportunity for CJ. Shows a lot of character, too. Not only does he know he was 6th choice, as stated above, he also knows that everyone interested enough also knows.

None of the comments on here are exclusive, similar opinions are shared by interested people all over, he is aware of what gets posted, can't ignore it.

And most are saying things like, "great guy, knows his stuff, can he coach?, we'll see!" (me too, I admit).

CL obviously wants to be a HC (at this level). Reckon he may be using this presumed adversity to prove he is worth any coaching job (at this level) not just the only gig available!

To be cruel to both parties, 36ers got the only bloke avail (to them) who got the only job avail (to him).

Good fortune to both 36ers and CJ, and remember that "sweet, are the uses of adversity" (Shakespeare's, not mine).

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

"And got a payout in return. That's the security of a multi-year deal."

Are you his agent? No one knows that to be true here.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

^ummm, do you know how contracts work??? They can be broken either way, but compensation is normally required unless both sides agree to it. And it definitely looks like CH didn't agree to it. Facepalm!!!

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Kev  
Earlier this month

Wondering if JVG finds a motivated CJ not looking backwards even though he has just been passed over with the bullets gig.

A coach with something to prove, likely will coach along the lines of Phil Smyth. All about trust and commitment. Passive in vocabulary but active with his actions.

Old burnt out looking Connor who the Paul proved without coaching played significantly better than when in Connors system / or lack of.

Hopefully this fire in his belly comes up with the goods.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

"how would Janie Pearlman feel knowing every coach in the country was sought out for the job, yet he was not considered. Typical 6ers under JVG and Kelly "

Was he worthy of consideration? Just because he was here for 1 year doesn't mean much.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Unless Pearlman totally disagreed with CH direction and methodology and was the one that knifed him in the back, then management would consider him supportive of CH plan. Also on the other foot he might not have been happy with way things were handled, which has been discussed at length on this forum, and told them where to stick it.

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LV  
Earlier this month

Is hard to tell from afar how likely an assistant coach is to be successful. Its more about gut instinct.

With CJ Bruton, my guess is he will be laid back and get along well with players. But will he have the tactical nous and motivational skills to help them over achieve? My guess is unlikely.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

He's showed promise in his coaching stints in Aus and Puerto Rico.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Genius. Let's play guessing game as to personality and his X's and O's.
I'll play as well. I guess his favourite food is lasagne and favourite movie is Titanic. I guess he likes blue and guess his favourite sport is basketball.

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Love this game  
Two weeks ago

Great signing!!!!!

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strinjun  
Two weeks ago

a great hire. Looks like he's really done the hard yards in the QLD State League & at the Bullets to be a great NBL head coach. Sadly the Sixers don’t look like an ideal situation for a coach, but I really hope that the club culture turns around.

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Chillbaby  
Two weeks ago

I think its a really good pickup for Adelaide and was surprised he didn't get the Brisbane gig for whatever reason. CJ has had a fairly long apprenticeship at a variety of high levels and lets be honest he was often an "on-court" coach for the teams he has played for - particularly later in his career. He's played under many coaches/mentors with many different styles and certainly has the pedigree and experience. No comparison to Andrew Gaze in terms of actual sideline experience. It's a cut-throat profession so I hope Adelaide gives him every chance to establish himself and impose his own mark and coaching style on the club. All the best, CJ

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Sounds like they wont be bringing in the third import until later in the season going by his interview on radio.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Better waiting for third import to see if Humphries stays healthy and if there are holes that need plugging. I think CJ will do a very good job, I just hope he's given time to get it going before it’s sack him becomes the norm.

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Stevy  
Two weeks ago

@942

Can you please send me a link to his radio interview? 

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KET  
Two weeks ago

That would be a silly mistake.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

I hate the whole 'lets wait to get an import' thing. They'll need a forward/center with this line up anyway. For some reason we always strive for mediocrity with NBL teams. Get the best possible line up you can and go for it. You cam always get an injury replacement later in the season.

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Stevy  
Two weeks ago

In case anybody is looking for the CJ interview. Is this the one @942?

Link

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M  
Two weeks ago

Getting imports into Australia in 2021/22 seems to be a difficult proposition due to the COVID situation. For example Perth are settled on a third import (in addition to Law and Cotton), however face a hold up (or maybe unable to do the deal) due to difficulties getting this athlete's Partner and Child into the Country.

I think this may put limitations on the imports that are available, perhaps 36ers are wise to wait.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I don't know why we are being so negative about this appointment. If it was the AFL we would be saying;
- played under some of the top coaches
- had success as a player
- represented the boomers (wouldn't say this in AFL)
- coached his own team
- done a good apprenticeship as an ass

Solid appointment

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ME  
Two weeks ago

It's a solid appointment that I dont think can go too far wrong. I just think most of us were expecting an established head coach. But either way CJ is a great guy, clearly knows basketball, and has done his training to do the job,.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I wish him luck if he gets Adelaide to the playoffs or close to it considering their crap roster he deserves coach of the year.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Adelaide easily one of the biggest spenders with McCarrron, humphries and co

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

McCarron and CJ as coach should be fantastic.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

Crap roster?!?!?! Lol.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

My opinion is crap roster.
ME is sensitive.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Sixers are JvGtastic.

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KET  
Two weeks ago

I don't understand the 36ers. They make good decisions and awful decisions to ruin the good decision.

Why spend so much on a roster only to not fill in the obvious final piece?

Why screw with any potential chemistry at the end of season by slotting a guy in midway?

If the 36ers scored Magnay then I’d go ok you don’t a third import and it can be used as an injury replacement.

But if you figure you will get an import down the line, not using the slot as an injury replacement, with the effect of chemistry and quarantine and having a glaring issue, why not have your import now?!

Whatever "benefits" of available people towards the end of season is far outweighed by the sheer stupidity and consequences.

You’ve got McCarron, DJ, IH, Dech. Fill with three imports and that’s your main 7 man rotation.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Just saw CH is still in town and going to do a guest appearance at a North clinic. Maybe that move to South isn't as far fetched haha!!!

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Rabbit 86  
Two weeks ago

Just heard the new coach on radio. Does not speak well at all. Bit of a concern

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Rabbit  
Two weeks ago

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Not surprised as in the one and only game CJ commentated on TV he couldn't even string a coherent sentence together.

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Zodiac  
Two weeks ago

Just saw CH is still in town and going to do a guest appearance at a North clinic.


Probably still hanging around until he gets a payout in his hands. I would be doing the same thing if I were him.

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LoveBroker  
Two weeks ago

Why spend so much on a roster only to not fill in the obvious final piece?


There are pros and cons of this strategy.

I am leaning towards this 'card in your pocket' strategy because :

- It remains to be seen if IH can last one full season, this extends to any other player as well. This is a good insurance policy.

- Gives the team an opportunity to see what is lacking / a weakness and a chance to address it.

- Bringing in a new player mid-late season (either as a new player as a replacement or free slot) is not rare and can be beneficial.

- We have a revolving door of imports anyway, in and off season so its nothing new to us (ie we're no worse off).

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

If Humphries is such a question mark in terms of injuries, why wouldn't we shift attention to a Magnay and use spare cash on a gun import. I swear, if Humphries goes down for extended periods of time he needs to go.

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Anonony674  
Two weeks ago

What if we bring a late dude who proves to be a non event player . Happened before. Hype and is a non star .. rather here early. If no go cut cut cut...

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Zodiac  
Two weeks ago

It's just a money saving strategy. Later in the season when there aren't many openings around a good player who couldn't find a chair when the music stopped can be had for a lot cheaper than in the offseason.

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RobT  
Two weeks ago

.. and, import gets paid only for the portion of the season that he played. If that's fairly late that's half, or more, saved.

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Zodiac  
Two weeks ago

That's right much like we did with Josh Childress. His going rate was supposedly $500K a season we didn't sign him waited until mid-season when he was still a FA got in contact again offered him $250K for the rest of the season and he accepted.

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Triton 73  
Two weeks ago

JVG would want to get it right this time, or it could be all over for him.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

JVG is a cockroach, he'd survive a nuclear bomb!

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