Anon
Two weeks ago

Mergers big V?

With the move to nbl1 and possibly nbl 2, is it time for some of the smaller associations to merge?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

NBL2 hahaha

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Well north GC are now in NBL1 north.

Rumours of 2 new south teams

Rumours 1 new west team

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Interesting concept NBL2. Realistically you'd have to restructure the entire competition. Imagine some of the smaller clubs having to merge.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Never happening

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

There will be at least 2 new NBL1 south teams with 2 more potentially the following year. BigV champ will struggle after that happens

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Also no such thing as NBL2

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

No nbl2 yet. But championship standard has dropped dramatically. With promotion of a couple of clubs what's left is poor.
Nbl2 and a promotion regulation system is the way forward. Not a big V program that goes nowhere.
Smaller association won't have money to survive. Do what Geelong did

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

LK isn't going to want to put his branding on a backyard league playing out of highschools

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

NBL2 hahaha

and it can air on The Ocho.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

League has needed a shake up for a long time. Mergers should happen, with so many clubs so close together, and battling each other for players, coaches, sponsorship dollars, government dollars and other resources.

It went from a league where you had to fight to make a team, to teams fighting for ordinary players just to fill out a roster.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Merging makes sense in a lot of areas. But to rebrand it NBL2 will never happen as not every state has a second tier competition.

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Love this game  
Two weeks ago

Anyone with commonsense can see a merger is needed Chelsea/Westerport, Mornington/Southern Pen why on earth are there this many clubs in that area often finishing last in for Men's & Womens. Mornington often has great jr teams but that never translates to senior. I believe Western Port has a run for a couple seasons in Seniors before screwing up everything. If you merged all four together that’s enough talent for an NBL1 side right there. This would be major and something that should be done but doesn’t happen because the people in charge don’t have a clue about how to run things. I’m sure there are other clubs similar and everyone on this forum can point to commonsense changes !!!

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Egos and low iq collectively amongst all the peninsula clubs will never let that happen.
Too many people would be out of jobs they don't deserve to have and will never let that go

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Lol. If all 4 peninsula team merged they might have an ok Champ team, but would never be able to compete with NBL1 teams. You have to look at Dandenong Men for example.
Solid Vic Metro players throughout the group and still struggled in NBL1 this year. How many peninsula players make Country squads? One or two might make it from southern pen. Mornington have great junior teams for Div4 but don't compete year in year out against the strong VC clubs.

Don't get me wrong I believe there are too many clubs out there at a junior level but I also think there are too many teams at each club. People underestimate the NBL1 level and the jump required from Champ.

BigV is a senior comp, where you should be only representing your local association and maybe 2 outside players with no imports. This is giving your local juniors to play senior competition. NBL1 you do what it takes to WIN. Many people/clubs think they are better than they actually are. Div 2 teams saying they should be in champ, now we have someone saying if they merged they should be in NBL1. LOL.

NBL1 is about the product. Providing a stepping stone to the NBL for players.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Most of the clubs that joined NBL South are shithouse.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Merge Peninsula teams yes, but include Chelsea ? How would that even work. Different council area, and theres even a club or 2 in between those 3 and Chelsea in Frankston & Casey.
WP,SP & Mornington, yes. Absolutely should merge. No Question. Not Chelsea.

For me, it should be whittled down to an Association per Municipality.

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Love this game  
Two weeks ago

Least we all agree on some type of merger as far as this big so-called jump there are nice players who just don't want to play for the club close to them, so saying NBL1 is some super jump or league I will respectfully agree to disagree. I do agree with the comment that a lot of low IQ people would be out of job and that’s a shame because there is plenty of talent in Victoria for sure. I find it strange how they run things compared to other countries but that’s another post!! Hahahha

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XTR  
Two weeks ago

Westernport and Mornington were talking about it a few years ago when Morno almost went bankrupt

Perhaps a time to revisit?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Yeah WP and Mornington could combine their disappointing men's teams and almost make finals in D2M

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Strong chance Westernpot men will be dropping down to D1 or D2 given large number of recent retirements. Only 1 or 2 end of bench players looking to return so at this stage would be lucky to even get a team on the floor.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

"at this stage would be lucky to even get a team on the floor."

that's most teams across both genders every year.

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donotreach  
Two weeks ago

This is fantasy stuff ... but no doubt will keep people amused.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Rumour has it a mass walk out at Chelsea. Not looking good there.

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Chelsea rumours already?

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Chelsea not the only club with a mass walkout. One near-by club has had the three amigos run the association into the ground. 2019 the best program in state. 2021???

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Broke? Flying now. Unlike neighbours.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Leave SP out of any merger talks. Apparently it's all happening down there.

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Love this game  
Two weeks ago

Now that's funny apparently it’s all happening down there hahahahha there are times this forum is actually cool until the Task Master comes locking threads hahahah

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

"It's all happening at SP" yeah right!
Since the monkeys took over the board, SP has had nothing happen.
Once G was forced out all quality players followed and mass walk out of top juniors.
Players used to travel from all over state to play there now they struggle to keep players.
That's what happens when board only worries about their own.

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Sharks the new Chelsea

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Please dont compare a program like SP with that rabble

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Why did G & Lucas leave SP?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

They were both a monster loss to the Sharks. Sensational coaches and fantastic people.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Why did they both leave?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

They weren't the only ones lost unfortunately.
3 Peninsula teams need to merge. But won't happen.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Who else left?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

couple more of their Junior coaches, who were involved with Country state.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Why did this happen?

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

SHarks were a great club. Now struggling to field teams and get coaches.
turnover of staff and board over last 2 years. Lots of talent left.
Merge with Mornington only way forward.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Whatever happened to the guy they had for a few months then gave his marching orders before could even start?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Need to be more specific, there were a couple that left after only a while.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Is the ex Gm of Chelsea still at Sth pen?

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Interesting.
https://australia.basketball/blog/2021/03/09/women-sport-and-leadership-in-australia/

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

SP need Shannon back. At least under him women's program flourished. Who's leading women's side now?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

https://australia.basketball/blog/2021/03/09/women-sport-and-leadership-in-australia/

That's a great read & very illuminating

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

With Casey and Keillor going up the standard of big v becomes even more irrelevant. Clubs like southern pen Morno or Hastings don't have the cash to spend to get any quality players. Come together and they could be an nbl1 club.
With the lack of resources they all have they need to pool it together aka Geelong.
If rumours are true one of those three might not be around long after COVID anyway!

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Sth Pen have tons of cash. They've been offering it around like it’s going out of fashion

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Tons of cash? Money well spent. Bottom 3 in women div 2 men. I wonder where all the money is? Coaching

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Hush about Southern peninsula. No need to merge.
Money is plentiful they'll spend it wisely when in court again.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Hard to believe they have much cash when their biggest earner , the tournament hasn't been run now for two years.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Sharks have turned around. The club has been run like a joke for years. Look at new association update heaps of cash. Finally someone running joint who knows what they are doing

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Anonymous  
Last week

My kids play domestic at Dromana. What happened to Person in charge of domestic has she left?

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Anonymous  
Last week

#535 - "Turned around" ??

Before the recent changes, they were regularly having junior teams not only compete in VC, but win them, win the classic, produce regular players of state and even occasionally National level, not to mention improvement on coaching pathways, and the attraction of talent from all over the state. They propelled their womens team from D2 to State Champ (and be near the top) with mostly local players, and long term recruits, rebuilt their mens team from the ground up and had grown their cash cow tournament substantially to be well placed financially.
Not to mention stability. Same people in charge producing the same high end results.

The new admin has only been in place for a year or so, so it'd be too early to tell, but the bar has been set pretty high. If they're not producing those types of players/coaches on the regular, not winning or competing as well in VC, or their senior teams aren't competing as well nor with local players, it's going to be hard to say it's been an improvement. Financially, considering the past 18 months, I don't think the new admin should be judged on their financials. Time will tell.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Some associations were basket cases before covid, and now its going to be their card to play for any near future messes they have.

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Anon  
Last week

#536 If its the person I am thinking of she's now at McKinnon

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Anonymous  
Last week

What does it mean some associations were basketcases before COVID? Which ones?

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