Best: Friday night games. Allows junior players to play multiple sports

Fully timed VC games. Should just be 10 minute quarters with a running clock. If you are U18's, often your 9.40 game doesn’t start til after 10pm, because of heaps of fouls called in U12’s/U14’s. That’s pretty tough for the 16 year olds who are in VCE & have been studying hard all week.

Parents indeed and club committee members too hahaha

Sat Domestic at a number of Associations run from 8am - 8pm. Friday Juniors run from 6:30-11:00pm at most.

If you think 16 year olds are tucked up fast asleep at 11pm on a Friday if not playing basketball you don't know teenagers.

Also their weekends are just as busy as their weeks at school. I just don't buy your excuses. You don't like Friday's because it's hard for you as an adult to get from work to a game. Just say it.

Not as bad if you split it into 4 regions so that no one has to cross the city in peak hour traffic

Why not VC too? VC are where our best prospects are (generally speaking). Why do we want to torture our best prospects every Friday night?

VC should be in regions too & we can have a super exciting finals series! It would make the Classic more interesting too.

Might also help stop kids leaving bball for footy. Footy is a shorter season & you play locally, there's lots to like about that.

You could knock grading over in two weekend tournaments

This is the biggest issue. No one will ever agree on what's best.

It's interesting in this chat it's highlighted that there are watered down divisions, in WA they're complaining too few are elite.

IMO VC can't be split regionally as it means the best teams won't play the best teams. VJBL is so big now they already have had to expand to 20 teams for VC which is insane and it can't be a coincidence that State team standards starting in line with the expansion of VC and the pool/conferences which keep the best teams away from each other. VJBL has tried to rectify this with their mid-season regrading but still, 20 teams is too many for the top grade.

1,000+ VJBL teams is great for Victoria but certainly dilutes the talent across too many teams/clubs. Maybe its time for some clubs to stick to being Domestic clubs rather than trying to have rep teams of their own.

Grading could not be done (fairly) over 2 weekend tournaments.

How many college players from Melbourne never played any level of VJBL? Name any.

Should never be any more rep divisions than 2

Any coaches on here that say Parents are the major problem need to get over themselves. Parents are invested in their kids and do more for their sport than any coach or trainer only too happy to take credit for any success will ever do. Dealing with the odd crazy sports parent is part of the job. I coached a kid with a nutter parent this season, I won't punish the kid but if it's between him another kid for the last couple of spots (and it will be) guess who's not getting picked. I don't coach my own kids team.

As for the season. It needs to be shorter. Every club in Victoria wants it but the VJBL keep ignoring it. The administrators at basketball Victoria all plough over every word of this forum and most comment behind the good old Anon (as do I) so take note.

Friday night travel accross the state. Love it! The kids love it! They'll remember it for the rest of their lives. It's a few parents that don't. If the kid finds it a drag, guess what? They don't love the sport at that level. Prefer my kid in a basketball stadium on a Friday night than the local park.

It's the best competition in the country because our kids don't have to quit one sport to play so we get the best athletes right up to about TAC cup age.

Any such break away league possible?

^not one but there are many basketball schools and camps where you can get recognised.

With the exception of VC, Should be all reigonalised geographical conferences.

I guess I see Sunday football a little differently....

For me VJBL is representative basketball, thus at a higher regard.
Sunday local football is domestic, just like all domestic basketball, everyone gets a game etc.

The football equal to VJBL is TAC, its just that they don't have all the lower grades the VJBL.

Many associations have mid-week senior domestic where they make income to support the clubs programmes, therefore if you put trainings in these places you lose income for the club. It becomes a balance for clubs.

parents are good for the sport,
they are passionate for their kids to do well and they care. As a coach, you can get some unpleasant ones but it is uasually good for the sport.

If you make only divisions for met 1 and VC then where are all the bottom age players going to go? If they don't make it into a team they might just quit and pursue a different sport. there will be fewer junior talent to develop from bottom age players with less teams.

There are way too many divisions of Bball in vjbl.
There needs to be a serious cut off for grading.

Vjbl have adopted the old Melbourne Tigers junior program philosophy , however many turn up, that's how many we’ll take.

But the horse has already bolted. The revenue that now come in to bv and associations from such a large competition is too big and the subsequent spending the clubs and bv can make now relies on such a big competition.

Regions, zones, maybe even different age groups are only way to make changes.

But most likely everything will stay the same, if you keep watering down cordial, you eventually get back to water.