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Basketball SA planning & trials

As posted previously, BasketballSA has made some significant changes to the schedule over the next few years.
One of these is that there will be an extended break from normal competitions over the summer months.

Why then does BasketballSA still have their upcoming trials for 2022 state squads, DURING the finals? Why not wait and do the trials after the season is finished? As it stands at the moment, the players will be playing a finals game Friday night and then backing up for 2 hour trials and both Saturday and Sunday. BasketballSA already has a history of having players injured through their program, so why run the risk when there is no need?

Surely waiting a few weeks, getting finals done and then starting trials would be better for everyone?

Can anyone shed any light on this?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Because BSA Competitions and BSA High Performance don't actually talk to each other.

They brought in an Operations Manager to build these barriers. So far, nothing's changed. They sit at desks in the same room bare metres from each other but still.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Because BSA Competitions and BSA High Performance don't actually talk to each other.

They brought in an Operations Manager to build these barriers. So far, nothing's changed. They sit at desks in the same room bare metres from each other but still.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Depending on the age group the majority of the players are pre selected via EADP squads for u15s and below.

U16's and above would probably be the same.

Technically just a fund raiser and introduction to style of play for the rest.

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Thomas  
Last month

They have to do things their own way. They see it as a development - let them do it. We will ask them for the lack of results, too :)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

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So in essence what you are saying is the trial process is nothing but a fraud, players are already picked for teams beforehand?
And BSA HP make you pay for a trial, for a team that your children have no hope of getting picked for in the first place?
That's a scam, which is a criminal offence.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

There are probably 3-4 spots up for grabs per age group but in essence, yes, most are already pre-selected as they are considerably better and have made each team year after year.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

As mentioned in the tips for tryouts, most spots are taken already. Normally, from past experience, it's cut down considerably after initial trials and so on until final team is announced. Probably 3 spots for final team are open, these are normally decided by team needs and if an individual fits in really well with what is needed. Team might need some height so a big kid is selected even though they may not be as well rounded as others for example.
And dodgy coaches have openly in the past used club links to recruit, or rather poach kids, with insinuations that it will help state chances. Now they're not so open, but brag about kids they have coached in the past.
But just as many kids that matured early in 16s never keep progressing, but kids that are physically immature might get a growth spurt in 18s and have vastly better careers despite playing div 5 or something. State by no means is the be all and end. Just a lot of bragging rights for normally parents to put on Christmas cards.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

In the past? It happened this season. BSA have changed state coach selection criteria because of it.

But still reappointed the offending coach.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Yes unfortunately it's actually true most squads are already pre selected and the sway of the JDO and state selected coaches influences the squads. How do you know, well seen selection when participants never trialled get selected.....think about that. Playing in the big five clubs has a big benefit and would probably say 3 clubs have the most influence and it’s different 3 clubs between boys and girls. Better to not be disappointed but realistic effectively if your club does not actively invite you to participate your chances are low.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

I did say not as open, Ive seen coaches and JDOs tell kids after game in front of everyone that if they moved they'd make state. At least now, in my experience, it's not as open. But it definitely still goes on

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Truth  
Earlier this month

I understand everyone's complaints about the process. Pretty much everything said has been true from what I have seen.

BUT, surely someone associated with BasketballSA HP can look at it and realise that moving the trials back to after the finals are finished would make much more sense. Surely someone who is linked with it reads this forum, or someone who knows them can make the suggestion...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Moving it now would require them admitting they made a mistake. Something they will not do.

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Truth  
Earlier this month

I would think that the original planning had Winter season finishing before the trials were on, and so the HP group planned the trials as is. Then the finals structure was changed.

It just takes a bit of commonsense now to move it and make life easier for everyone.

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