Anonymous
Two months ago

Southern pen vs hawthorn

Is sth pen or hawthorn in more trouble?
SP in kaos! Is it the tank management with blame? Maybe hound dog influence? Maybe the board? Cash problems? Last board kicked out by members.
Best women's player axed and walks straight in to an NBL1 team. Team cohesion issue? I wonder who is coach of that team?
Men's side not any better. Top juniors left?
Juniors leaving. Struggling to field teams. Desperate for junior coaches. Getting anyone they can find! Sad it was best junior program in state.
Should BV step in? Is there more going on?
Can’t wait for the Sharks vs Gulls in championship in 2022. Then will see who was the real problem at the nest!

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Anon  
Two months ago

Another thread? Getting worse than Chelsea

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Anon  
Two months ago

Another thread? Getting worse than Chelsea

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Southern pen previous board thought they knew better than the people who got them there. When it was just sour grapes that their little kids weren't up to scratch so they chased out the people who built it up.
New guy came in and they found out quickly he wouldn’t bow down to them either so they got rid of him in a second.
Put on a nuftie who is not qualified to be a gm, and low and behold, this is what you get.

Only thing in their defence is covid has cancelled two southern pen tournaments which were a major revenue source for the club.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

On the player issues, coincidence that certain people from other club are there, where there were previous issues similar?


Shocked....

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Didn't some people from Chelsea go to Southern Pen?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Chelsea has turned it around in the last 12 months. Perhaps SP can ask them for advice

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

SP were never the best junior program in the state, laughable claim

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Game Watcher  
Two months ago

Nah, SP won't ask Chelsea for help as the problem people from Chelsea went to SP.

Also, SP did take in a lot of Chelsea female players. In fact, 90% of the YL2 Chelsea players went to SP along with the coaches. I think 3 of them ended up playing in their SCW team.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

" Nah, SP won't ask Chelsea for help as the problem people from Chelsea went to SP."

Ouch!

I guess it says why Chelsea keeps getting better snd better.

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Anon  
Two months ago

Is there an investigation going on down there? Rumour is board we're forced to step down? Any idea why?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Maybe Chelsea could text Sth Pen some advice? I'm sure they'll be happy to take it.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Investigation at Sp or Chelsea

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

#874163 probably too many text messages being sent down there!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Trouble seems to follow some people

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Southern Pen offering pretty good cash to go down and play there! I know someone who hasn't played in 3 years who was offered big time coin. Was shocked when they showed me the messages

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

#874297 I'd be shocked if that's the case. Rumour has it in the middle of some serious situation.

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Anon  
Two months ago

Where's the hound gone? Wondering if he wants to explain recent player cuts at SP? Hypocrite.

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Anon  
Two months ago

#874116 GM causing havoc. What he did to JMac knifed after not even a month in job was pitiful. But has history apparently.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

What happened?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

The hound has not posted for a while? hope he is ok

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

The hound hasn't posted since a post pointed out who he was, must have a lot more time in his days now.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Who is the hound? Please share

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Monix  
Two months ago

I hope what I'm hearing down there isn't true. SP were kicking so many goals not 2 years ago, and although Covid would not have helped, those last 2 years have certainly seen a fall. I see recently the entire board was replaced, so hopefully SP can find their way back to where they were with the new voices in their. Best of luck to them.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

word i s that one of the board members who supported the GM in getting appointed a year ago only did it so he could influence his son and daughters opportunities. when gm wouldn't bow down to the bullying, the board member tried to get rid of him but the board did not support it so he resigned. Apparently the guy had bad history of bullying and harassment at past job. As for the other members, looks like they all just finished their term

Looking at SP financial statement on their site their financials were more sustainable this past 12 mths with no tment and no operations for half a year and still over 90K in the bank. compared to the year before where they had a tournament and were not tracking well. gm might be coming down hard, but sometimes you gotta clean out the trash.
The next 12 months out of covid will tell i guess if it is the right team for the job. Fresh faces on a board are sometimes needed too

As for juniors leaving, who?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Interesting this is all now playing out.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

A male board member who has a son and daughterS who played. Anyone from the tank wish to guess who that is?
GM has taken out the trash and turned the finances around. how does the SPBA past president and treasurer feel? I bet the new general manager at Chelsea will love to discuss. Wasn't she at SP?
lots of specifics in that post maybe you are an employee? Maybe you flew the nest...
Look forward for when the Chelsea second team (the sharks) come and play the Chelsea first team (the gulls). Talking about the women (they might have a new recruit or two from down your way bit of a surprise are all your juniors/youth league staying?). As for the men are they div 1 or 2? Long time since played CM.
It would seem Chelsea has taken out the trash and dumped it in the tank LOL

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Chesea women will destroy the SP womens team.

Wont even be competitive.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

One thing I can say with almost 100% certainty is that the people here from both Chelsea and Southern Penn that comment in this forum are the most immature, bitter, childish people I've ever seen. You people need to just move on and get over yourselves. It's community sport at a pretty low level and not worth destroying each other over in this childish, gutless manor.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

The SP GM has been making a lot of statements about past board and coaches. Lots of big statements. Some of those people have ended up at Chelsea. Still have contacts at SP and know exactly what's being said and done. Not exactly professional.
The hound left Chelsea and has been on here attacking Chelsea. He took tvirtually entire youth league team.
SP youth league beat up our YLW team by 100 points. Difference is Chelsea was made up of homegrown players, who are now a year older and loyal to club. Women's team home grown. SP all outside players both youth league and womens. Already heard of exits. Best player already gone to nbl1 and making no secret of being finally happy. Why would nbl1 player leave especially one who gave so much to community.
This to and fro serves a good purpose. Two different approaches, a community based clean environment invested in their youth versus a club with a culture that turned on itself. The truth will come out but the first thing sp board needs to do is change culture by changing people. Getting rid of the two amigos from the board was a good start.
SP need to look at Chelsea who has a great GM with lots of experience. Surround with good people build juniors. Two clubs heading in different directions.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

If Chelsea was that good and really was a great place to be as you all keep trying to tell yourselves. Then why would so many players get up and follow a coach? Think about it.

Quit your whining you created your own situation.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Grass always seems greener. The top coach that they followed hasn't even coached there (still has a contract though) and another coach was forced out mid season. And now the girls realise it wasn't. SP doesn't care about those players. Couldn't even get correct photos for their award winners. Those girls aren't staying they'll take the first offer to play in a club that values them. Not being used.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

All of the small to medium clubs in that area are basket cases in their own right

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Is it true the top male junior is leaving?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

^ from what club?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Yep true
A number leaving.
A high level coach is encouraging them to leave.
GM kept in dark.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Magic?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Lots of hawthorn top end kids leaving.... Seems SP are in the same boat. Treat people like they don't matter and they will find somewhere that treats them like they do.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"Lots of Hawthorn top end kids leaving". Really? Where to?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Kids registered for our tryouts from Hawthorn. From 1's teams.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Athletes from SP shopping themselves around. Lots of conversations with a former DOC.
Over last 2 years lost all female HP most male HP all since new GM took over.
Wonder how many will go to Chelsea? Lots of respect for new GM.
What could be forcing them to leave???

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

#832 How do you feel about that? Tough one because you need to manage the interests of the existing players, but of course want the best players at your club.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

No "high end" juniors are going to Chelsea. Forget it. All of their teams start grading so low the chances of making any kind of decent VJBL level would be almost zero. 12 boys pool 5, 14 boys pool 5, 16 boys pool 4 and 18 boys pool 3. Girls even worse. NO one is moving to Chelsea!!

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Anon  
Two months ago

Sharks are just as bad and getting worse. They'll have no VC teams. Probably no VJBL 1 or 2 and maybe a couple in 3. Sad. But you force the best male and female players out !

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Heard from good source that there are approximately zero kids leaving Magics from top end teams so the above is rubbish.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

^^ check your source. The good kids are being shopped around by their parents.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Gosh, shopping around an ok junior basketballer is a bit OTT! But that's basketball parents for you.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Hope the kids know about it! At my association, we'd steer clear of those types.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Southern Pen women will be a force this year! Y'all will look stupid at the end of this season

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Anon  
Two months ago

Y'all! Did you not see the Chelsea girls! Dominated. Will sharks even have a team? You had Chelsea seconds and were crap. When they leave what's left?

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Anon  
Two months ago

southern pen will be Lucky to stay in CW

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Southern Pen a force in the Women??!! Really?????????

I assume they've opened up the cheque book then...

With only 4 wins last season against bottom teams Whittlesea, Hawthorn x 2 and Keilor that might suggest that a new roster is required if they are going to even trouble the likes of Bulleen, McKinnon and Sunbury etc and I doubt that is going to happen...

Good Luck with that!!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Plenty of VC-level Hawthorn kids were seen at Nunawading's non-compulsory outdoor training sessions on Sunday. #JustSayin

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

PS: Lots of Melbourne Tigers players too...

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

^ am sure they will be welcomed with open arms!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Chelsea women cant wait to play SP! They already talking about it.

Will be epic!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Who actually plays for SP?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

^ If they can't beat decent competition in CW then doesn’t sound like they don't have too many decent players!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

SP took anyone worth taking from Chelsea. Just the scraps are left.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Scraps left? If Chelsea have scraps then SP has week old stale breadcrumbs! Any young players down there? Can't wait to compare rosters.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

oh someone sounds upset. did you not get an offer from the SP cashcow?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Let's see who sharks end up with. Pretty sure the last president bleed it dry! What did happen to him?

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Anon  
Two months ago

Honestly Southern pen has become a joke.
Name one player with talent down there. Male or female.
It'll be interesting to see how quickly gulls rise vs Sharks.
Look at what Sharks had in terms of coaching and through board and managers they've all gone.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

^^ to be fair, Gulls aren't much chop either

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Honest question, what happens to Chelsea men when Corey hangs them up? Heading into late 30's now??
What is coming through?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Corey is only early 30's. Still killing it.

Great guy and he will make sure the team will be in good hands when he finishes. He is already recruiting.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

He should recruit a few good players from SP. men's side of the program really unhappy with previous coach hence they are advertising! Be surprised if anyone wants to take on that role considering the amount of coaches/staff they burn through.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

'Already recruiting'
That’s kind of the point. Without recruiting players in, what players do they have coming through their youth? Juniors won’t see much go on to seniors if barely scraping into top couple of vjbl leagues

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Anon  
Two months ago

#364 Chelsea have plenty of young talent. Unlike sharks who had to "recruit" an entire team for youth league who are now walking out! No sharks players in YL or SW and men's players were going to walk out because of coach!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I'm not comparing to Sp, both clubs have next no talent coming through.
Ylm for Chelsea have what coming through? Their men’s had to suit up kids who haven’t played higher than regional vjbl this season!

Not a personal knock on Corey, but a legit query, what’s the long term plan to be able to stay in scm etc?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

How do SP not have a coach in place by now? What a joke.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

What happen to the guy that was there? I though he was good.

So then, are the rumours of the womens coach not liking him true?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Which coach are SP missing, men or women?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I don't think the men’s and women’s coaches liked each other all that much

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Game Watcher  
Two months ago

Maybe the Women's coach at SP really wants to be the Men's coach cause they're getting more money and would make him look better?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Men's coach is gm, women’s coach wants job


Simple

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Game Watcher  
Two months ago

I'd expect wants both jobs, to be more accurate. Men's coach and GM, loves the power and control

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Mens coach won the last season that was completed and they moved up a division, not really a conversation there to be had...

Although the hound will probably see it another way

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Mens coach isn't the d2 champ winning coach. It’s the nuftie in the office.
It was supposed to be the doc that got the ass after a couple months for reasons no one knows other than he wouldn’t be a yes man to people who had no idea what they were doing.

Looks like he was right with the said people no longer on the board.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

SP vs Hawthorn...
If we are talking just about BigV looks to me like both are equally stuffed but maybe for different reasons? Are both teams 100% going ahead?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

He has been doing his best to undermine the current GM and Men's coach for 12 months now

Everyone know he wants both jobs

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Anonymous  
Last month

#444 didn't the GM appoint that DOC. Why would the GM have got rid of him? Or was it board?

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Anon  
Last month


Since current board/GM in power Hillier left, men's champ coach gone, DOC got the arse. Long term state level coaches quit. Heard even Youth league coach left mid season. The three amigos ran the place into the ground. They were told this would happen but didn't listen. Should be ashamed.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Not sure about that. Board can't be held responsible for GM behaviour. Gm of any organisation is in charge of daily organisation and decisions not board.

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Anonymous  
Last month

#444 big talk. Name names

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Anonymous  
Last month

Here the numbers at southern pen have dropped dramatically yet more and more staff are employed

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sp are about quality not quantity

Unlike Chelsea

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Game Watcher  
Last month

Always the explanation of numbers dr!opping

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Anon  
Last month

#591
1. Proven on these threads that is not the case. Not one junior female HP left. Male junior HP have all left.
2. Why GM publicly saying about biggest season ever?
Our senior men better than SP
Our senior women better than SP
Our youth league men better than yours
You had no youth league women without stealing our players who are all leaving
Our junior numbers are building unlike yours which are dropping.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It's like a solid turd beating their chest that they are better than diarrhoea.

Being better than sp, but your still shite in the eyes of the rest of the state

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Anonymous  
Last month

SP are about quality LOL
Not only are HP juniors going but apparently a lot of u14 kids are leaving too.
But don't worry board kids get looked after look at what happened with YLW

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Anonymous  
Last month

This has to be post of the year-

It's like a solid turd beating their chest that they are better than diarrhoea.

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From the inside  
Last month

The Hound got found out at Chelsea, and found a new home at SP. He tried to punish Chelsea by taking all the YL girls and boys. He also pushed his son into the SP program. Most of those YL kids will end up back at Chelsea, or somewhere else. Make no mistake, the reason the Hound is trying to push out the Men's coach/Gm is to get his son a senior game, because talent and hard work won't.
A message to all at SP, be very careful of Mrs Hound!

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Anonymous  
Last month

From the inside
Hypothetical imagine if the person in a particular role at a made up association (northern peninsula dolphins) was "forced" or "coerced" or "shoved out against their will" and that role became available I wonder who would get it?
Hound has been hounding.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Mrs Hound is nasty

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Anonymous  
Last month

The funny thing is hound will be telling the current GM not to listen to this nonsense he has his back

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Anonymous  
Last month

My favourite thing out of this is how the hound has gone to ground

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who is this famous 'Hound'?

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From the inside  
Last month

The Hound may well be a former GM who moved south to coach SP women, whilst trying to bring down his former club that he is a Life Member of.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The hound is getting hit by the karma bus, after years of potting people on here, at times some that were people he was 'friends' or even colleagues/other coaches with at the club. Then would be all smiles to their face and doing whatever he could to manipulate behind the scenes to make sure everything was centrelinked on him.
His form over time has not been great treating others well.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wow
"The Hound may well be a former GM who moved south to coach SP women, whilst trying to bring down his former club that he is a Life Member of."

I have my popcorn ready, tell me more

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Anonymous  
Last month

My 2nd favourite part is 'the hound' didn’t come out with the ‘lol good try mate just a spectator’ line etc, but has gone all quiet since being called out.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The hound and the prez had a scratch my back situation. Poor GM was stuck in between. Prez gone in tears. New people in charge not long before hound gone. Unless he gets mrs hound in and they get rid of Gm. Poor kid.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sounds like DOC needs help at SP

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sth pen will be the next hawthorn

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Anonymous  
Last month

Looks like Brasser is heading back to Chelsea

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Anonymous  
Last month

#830 is that why Sharks hired a high performance coach?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Chelsea need him if they are going to be competitive but I doubt Chelsea would pay as much as Southern Peninsula.

I doubt this year was fun for him being the only player capable of playing D1M in his team.

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Anonymous  
Last month

If last year wasn't fun this year will be a heap worse

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Anonymous  
Last month

Brasser head coach of Sharks Men.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Seriously who would want to be head coach of a men's program in disarray

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hardly in disarry!

Worry about the mess thats the nest

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