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ESPN on NBL Next Star Program vs G League/NCAA/Overtime

Interesting comparison exploring the merits of each pathway. Talks about Dyson Daniels' decision and more.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/32655904/how-g-league-ignite-ote-nbl-college-basketball-stack-elite-nba-draft-prospects

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Chillbaby  
Last month

Thanks NBL Fan - great read

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KET  
Last month

Thanks - I think that's a really good summary of the NBL and its program.

It’s not often even the most senior ESPN writers get Australia right, but guys like Givony have been paying attention lately

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BALLER#3  
Last month

Good read. I cant help but think the NBL should align itself more with the NBA from a rules, referreing and game time standpoint too. Could only help prospects decide if they can be a bit of an NBA Jr.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Second @Baller#3

The more alignment to the NBA, the more opportunities will open up to the NBL such as cross-league initiatives, player movements, and even $'s.

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koberulz  
Last month

If they did that, I'd very quickly stop watching.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Oh no there'll be no Kobe, whatever will we do!?

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Anonymous  
Last month

NBA Africa is already a thing. It's only a matter of time, and it’s good for the game.

Basketball while global, doesn’t have the investment going into segmented leagues around the world like football does. If you want to watch the best basketballers in the world you look to the NBA, but with football you look to several leagues as they’re scattered amongst many leagues — albeit in Europe. You could argue the best football league in the world is not in fact a league, but rather the FIFA World Cup every four years. If you think of basketball in this light, you can see how the NBA is the actual "World Cup". FIBA would have you think otherwise, of course.

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KET  
Last month

" Good read. I cant help but think the NBL should align itself more with the NBA from a rules, referreing and game time standpoint too. Could only help prospects decide if they can be a bit of an NBA Jr."

I get that - and returning to 48 minutes would be helpful in that for NBA prospects (as well as producing more 20ppg players/100pt games which is a good “narrative builder”).

However - there's no reason for the NBL to replicate other part of the NBA. Having a semblance of defence, physicality etc makes players better in development for NBA if that’s what their aim is - it doesn’t provide cheap points for players like China.

NBL needs to provide a genuine opportunity for players to improve and hone something out of being in the NBL. Competing on the NBA offensive biased rules that mean no defence means players just prove themselves against mostly guys not at NBA level. It doesn’t help the players or mount an argument to be signed to an NBA team.

Play against good defence and physicality that you don’t see in the NBA puts them in good stead for being in the NBA.

48mins for alignment and stats narrative I get.

Those offensive rules only serve to ruin the entertainment of the game and the development of players wanting to make the NBA.

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Anonymous  
Last month

KET what are you going on about. Like seriously a 'narrative builder' what are you even trying to say.

I get the rest of your post but I think you’ll find under the ‘new’ rules of the nba in which it is more physical indeed means that there’s less of a crossover.

Also to suggest there’s no good defence in the nba is fucking laughable. There’s always been elite defenders (just look what jrue holiday was able to do to patty mills in the olympics) the issue is with younger generations and the rules. It’s pretty hard to play defence when you know James Harden will fling his body into you and you’ll be the one punished but now that’s changed. So all you ‘nba = no defence and physicality’ lads need to settle down as even the best offensive players in the nba would be mediocre at best if they were to transition over.

Let’s also not forget the rule changes came about because of ratings plummeting (something in which I think not only had to do with the low scoring games but also being a non MJ period (obviously he was at the wizards but I mean more so peak him)), which in this case they’ve changed rules again for ratings but also for how bad the offensive bias got.

Again let’s keep in mind the game is two sides and shouldn’t be favoured towards one or the other.

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Anonymous  
Last month

NBL blitz preseason game has more defensive intensity then most NBA regular season games.

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KET  
Last month

It's pretty fucking laughable if you think NBA players play defence before the playoffs!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Great to see KET hasn't actually watched an NBA game at least this year and probably in a while and just checks box scores and highlights

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KET  
Last month

Haha I'm a Spurs fan, I just prefer basketball where actual defence is played.

When you watch NBL, Euroleague, NBA, College ball you get an idea of what defence is and isn’t.

Maybe try watching a variety of leagues :)

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BALLER#3  
Last month

I agree with KET on defensive effort. I do agree the defensive minded australian game should definitely stay and I think is actually beneficial to development. Whilst there are indeed elite individual defenders in the nba, the overall level of effort is often lacking for 3/4 of the game. Partly I think this is to do with there being 82 games.

There is definitely a reason that both giddey and ball have transitioned to scoring in the nba relatively easily.

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Anonymous  
Last month

KET if you're honestly going to say no defence is played then you’re simply lying. Literally the most important skill as a big is to defend the pick and roll and protect the rim. Plus runninn out to world class shooters, containing drives etc. I agree that on average the the effort level isn’t as high as other leagues but it is an outright slap in the face to say defence isn’t played. Simply look at Draymond on the warriors and how crucial he is. Good defence is all around the nba and particularly the playoffs far exceeds anywhere else.

But enjoy watching McCarron 'pressure’ Cadee, absolute world class talent right there

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Anonymous  
Last month

#987 blinkered by the dozen NBA guys who thrive on defence. Teams play defence in the playoffs as you allude too. But during the regular season hardly anyone plays any form of defence other than a few specialists.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Agree in recent years levels have gone down in the regular season, but suggest that none is applied in any form is literally hyperbole. The good teams all emphasis defence, just because they deal with bullshit rules, scorers that far exceed anywhere else and bigger court dimensions doesn't mean no d is played. If you sit back and say the nba doesn’t play d then you’re ignoring countless teams that do indeed play d. Just because it goes against your narrative of the nbl is better because of defensive intensity when in reality it’s that plus low class offensive players that makes the d stand out whereas the nba has both world class d and o. Try to not look at the box score folks

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Anonymous  
Last month

You actually might want to sit down and watch an NBA game properly #993.

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Anonymous  
Last month

#997 you might want to watch a leave that has actual good players as opposed to the no offence nbl

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RobT  
Last month

If this topic was divided into 2 categories, Team-D and One-on-one-D, the NBA may receive more claps than slaps. Think about the amount of "iso" played (by the offence), almost necessitating one-on-one-D, and is specifically designed to take help-D out of the frame.

Then, with the NBA rulings heavily favouring the offence, good D is often ignored or even penalised. Thankfully that is being addressed with the new rulings/interpretations, to some extent.

"#987 blinkered by the dozen NBA guys who thrive on defence."
Same in the NBL. Delly's a standout, Martin was, not many others.

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