Anonymous
Last year

VJBL grading

Anyone know how grading for VC will work this year with no cross-over? Will first 2 in each pool go straight through to VC?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Top in each pool will go through and the vjbl will choose the other 6 based on results is my understanding

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Old Coach  
Last year

I wouldn't worry too much about it, if you are one of the teams contending for the final few spots in VC you aren't going to make the mid season cut anyway.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Would be good to know what the rules of the road are, whether in the second 6 or final few.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Surely it's top 2 in each pool that go through.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Grading has commenced without a grading map? Unusual approach. Can't be that difficult to put something out.

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Anonymous  
Last year

That would make them accountable. it's like the transfer list, there's not one of those either. They don't want to expose the "favors" they do for freindly associations by allowing more than 2 transfers into 1 team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yeah, the absence of the grading map is odd. Not like it's controversial .....what would be the need to hide it???

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Hoopie  
Last year

Add that to the silence on Hawthorn and lots of other issues mentioned on here in the last two years and you really have to wonder what their focus is in BV.

There seem to be many areas in which they've left confusion or worse.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Staff changes, lack of income, COVID, re-opening under strict conditions. Not like BV have just been sitting back enjoying a holiday for the past 2 years.

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Anonymous  
Last year

https://www.basketballvictoria.com.au/news/basketball-victoria-statement-bh

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Anonymous  
Last year

So it's all good then.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why is there no grading map? How do we know who qualifies for VC?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Mornington have just announced two teams in VC, not sure how they know just yet.

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FUBR  
Last year

Club's have received the pools for grading phase 2. So pool xx would be VC

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Anonymous  
Last year

Frankston has all 1's teams straight through in both boys & girls.

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Anonymous  
Last year

That is a great result, anyone know the wash-up for the other associations?

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EyesWideShut  
Last year

Dandenong have lured Tamie Harvey away from Nunawading. Big win for the Rangers whose girls program is a shell of what it used to be.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Not that it really matters... but if VJBL have worked out the next phase of grading, why not publish it on PlayHQ?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Big job for Tamie Harvey. Top age 16 girls and above are still strong, but below that there is no depth, in the domestic comp or rep program. She will have to build it up from the very bottom.

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Anonymous  
Last year

About time they hired someone for the role instead of handing out to ex nbl players who had no experience or genuine interest in how clubs work but were happy to dine out on their name. They are potentially going to be irrelevant in a couple of years if this appointment doesn't work out

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Anyone here know how many teams each Association has got through to VC?

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SandyStrikesAgain  
Earlier this year

Girls
Club
Frankston 4
Bulleen 4 (inc. 2 x U18)
Sandringham 4
Casey 4
Diamond Valley 4
Kilsyth 3
Keilor 3
McKinnon 3
Melbourne 3
Nunawading 2
Knox 2
Eltham 2
Hawthorn 2
Dandenong 2
Mornington 1
Camberwell 1
Waverley 1
Wyndham 1
Bendigo 1
Gippsland United 1

Boys
Frankston 4
Nunawading 4
Knox 4
Eltham 4
Bulleen 3
Sandringham 3
Casey 3
Kilsyth 3
Keilor 3
Hawthorn 3
Dandenong 3
Camberwell 3
McKinnon 2
Geelong United 2
Diamond Valley 1
Melbourne 1
Mornington 1
Ballarat 1

Combined Girls & Boys
Frankston 8
Bulleen 7
Sandringham 7
Casey 7
Kilsyth 6
Keilor 6
Nunawading 6
Knox 6
Eltham 6
Diamond Valley 5
McKinnon 5
Hawthorn 5
Dandenong 5
Melbourne 4
Camberwell 3
Mornington 2
Geelong United 2
Camberwell 1
Waverley 1
Wyndham 1
Bendigo 1
Gippsland United 1
Ballarat 1

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#881443 ....thanks for this.

Where did you get this? As far as I can see still no info on PlayHQ or VJBL website re next phase of grading.

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SandyStrikesAgain  
Earlier this year

Clubs have access to this, but it is not published anywhere.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The pools for the second round of grading can be downloaded from the Mornington web site. I assume it is the same document that was sent to the clubs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Anyone know where to find a grading map - looks like they've all been taken down

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-  
Earlier this year

I'm surprised that some previously predominant girls programs are down to 2 teams in VC - so are those numbers the VC numbers for the main season ?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Most of those clubs will end up with all their Girls 1's teams in VC. it was a strange grading because the top age girls didn't get to play their last top age year, so initial rankings were from 4 years ago and were not representative of where the teams are at in most cases. There were some pools with 4 obvious VC teams in the first round and others with maybe only 1. Not to mention some teams were undermanned due to the Vaccination status of some players.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Phase 2 fixtures released on PlayHQ....still no grading maps though.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Clubs have had the maps for about 3 weeks now, speak to them.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Clubs have the info is such a cop out. Why not continue to post information themselves. They get money direct from players. Why are they not responsible to communciate with the same players that pay for them to be employed?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's not a cop out. The pools have changed already from what they released to the clubs, due to the constant changing of restrictions and after receiving requests from clubs to change pools.

If you publish them online, and they have to change the map or maintain flexibility given the current situation, imagine the abuse they’d cop if they had to make a change?
This is likely to happen as well given the amount of teams that will be missing players in isolation.

Of course I’d prefer it online, but I understand the rationale behind not publishing it.
It’s just the nature of the situation at the moment unfortunately.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So its not a cop out to hide something because it might change and someone might complain.

Thanks for backing up my cop out arguement :)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

There's complaints and then there’s abuse. Their job isn’t to cop abuse.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Delete emails.

Hang up on phone calls.

Managers who refuse to manage should quit. Cop out.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Pools/fixture and grading map are two different things.

Not having a published grading map is a bigger deal because teams don't know what the path to their desired grading outcome is.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It should just follow the usual map from here, assuming the currently scheduled grading and cross overs can be completed.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I think some of the grumbling here is that the 'usual grading map' is not published online at the present time.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They aren't using the usual grading map, that’s already established through the published calendar.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Given the scheduled calendar just follows the usual process then the map from now on will be the same as previously.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

^^ someone obviously hasn't looked at the calendar, there’s only 1 crossover this year compared to the normal 3.

The grading map sent to clubs does reflect this change as well.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Oh well, just publish it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Confused by ladders in PlayHQ for this next grading phase, which include points etc from grading phase 1. Does that indicate that VJBL are carrying forward points from last year or is it just an error? Very confusing and would be much better for all if the grading map was published.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I suspect there is no grading map ...

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Vander18  
Earlier this year

Our club finally shared grading map with parents.

Is it widely known that where wins/losses are the same in Grading that head to head trumps percentage? We thought we'd won our pool....but of shock to find that’s not the case.

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Palmer85  
Earlier this year

Hello can you please share this with me

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Palmer85  
Earlier this year

Any luck on the grading map

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BigD  
Earlier this year

It's always been head to head, very widely known.

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Fox87  
Earlier this year

This was copied from a post from john. Good comparison for this year and see how covid effects this year


VJBL - VC Teams For 2019
VC Divisions have been announced for the 2019 Season. Some bigger clubs with lower numbers than I expected, while seeing some smaller clubs be represented very well.
Anyone over/under achieving ?
I think Hawthorn do a great job, and over the years have seen more and more teams make VC.

MUVJBL 2018/19 VC TEAMS - UNDER-12 TO UNDER-18
Dandenong - 10
Hawthorn – 10
Kilsyth – 10
Knox – 10
Eltham – 9
Nunawading – 9
Bulleen – 8
Keilor – 8
Diamond Valley – 7
Frankston – 7
Melbourne – 7
Casey – 5
Geelong – 5
Sandringham – 5
Waverley – 5
Bendigo – 4
McKinnon – 4
Southern Peninsula – 4
Ballarat – 3
Bellarine – 3
Latrobe – 3
Pakenham – 3
Sunbury – 3
Altona – 2
Collingwood – 2
Ringwood – 2
Warrandyte – 2
Werribee – 2
Broadmeadows
Camberwell
Craigieburn
Korumburra
Melton
Mornington
Sale
Whittlesea

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Vander18  
Earlier this year

So in 14 boys games the losers of games aa through to dd will all go to Div 2. From the winners of those 4 games, VJBL will choose which 2 go to Div 1 and which 2 go to Div 2.

1) Why would vjbl create a scenario where they are choosing the teams that go through rather than placing them based on outcomes?

2) Does anyone have insight into what they will look at when choosing?

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