Isaac
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2022 NBA Draft

Givony's mock draft has Dyson Daniels at #7 to Portland, then Ousmane Dieng to the Pelicans at #8. In the second round, Hugo Besson at #44.

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Big Fudge  
Last month

I just want to know who my Magic will be taking! such a tough first pick to make this season with no clear choice between Chet, Jabari and Paolo.

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Daly  
Last month

No Kai Sotto in Givony's mock draft? That is a joke.

Kai will get picked up by Sacramento.

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Cram  
Last month

Expecting a few trades tomorrow as team's deal draft assets for players who can help in 22-23 with so few top line free agents available.

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hoopie  
Last month

I don't get the love for Holmgren - I thought that Paolo and Jabari were much more suitable for the NBA.

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Big Fudge  
Last month

Hoopie - 7 footer who can shoot the transition 3 ball, handle the rock, block shots... whats not to like.

His only issue is weight, Giannis was no different coming in to the league, Durant another (though Durant was a better scorer coming in).

Personally for me, I would go Paolo or Jabari first as well, but I do get the hype behind Chet.

In regards to Sacramento, I can see them trading the pick.

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Cake  
Last month

Having watched him all season, I would have Banchero behind Smith and Holmgren. I'd take Holmgren first, which means I'd be delighted to see him in OKC with Giddey. The hype is partly about the unicorn stuff, but we've seen with Porzingis that size and shooting don't equal guaranteed success. Holmgren is also a really good defender, has consistently produced against elite competition, and has a mix of ego and team-first mentality that makes for a good alpha. There are durability questions but those exist for a lot of top-tier prospects.

I can't figure out the Duke one-and-dones, though. Some I thought were sure-fire stars haven't been able to find roles, and I definitely didn't envision Tatum being as good as he is.

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Hendo8888  
Last month

Do we get Sotto back when he isn't drafted? Or is he gone either way?

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Cram  
Last month

I think Holmgren is the biggest chance of those big three of being a bust. There's a long history of team's falling in love with big guys and ignoring their flaws. Especially so in a year after a guy like Mobley ended up being better than expected. I'm not saying Chet will be a bust or even no good, but there's a higher chance for him than the other two though

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Giddey-Jerome-Maledon
SGA-Mann
Dort-KenrichWilliams-Wiggins
Bazley-Roby
Holmgren-RobinsonEarl-Muscala

Pick up another sg after #12
Ditch the rest of okc roster

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Cram  
Last month

Banchero #1 so now OKC have the choice of Smith or Holmgren. They wouldnt have expected that. Be interesting to see where they go.

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Big Fudge  
Last month

So glad we took Banchero, NBA ready and can score the ball in a variety of ways.. most complete versatile player in the draft.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Italy n.t absolutely stacked going forward.

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Cram  
Last month

Chet to OKC. Clearly got the guy they wanted.

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Big Fudge  
Last month

Jabari Smith Jr going to Houston, he never worked out with them only did workouts with Orlando and OKC... didnt look happy

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Cram  
Last month

But he's got "stay humble" on his chest so clearly he won't be upset at going #3. Right?

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Big Fudge  
Last month

I think its a good fit to be honest, they moved Christian Wood so he is going to slot in at the 4 and will get plenty of opportunity.

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Cram  
Last month

Yeah i think Smith will actually do well there if his team mates ever pass him the ball.

on the "is it better to go NBL NExt Star or G League Ignite?" question, a guy just got drafted ahead of any of those prospects who didnt play anywhere last year so clearly not playing is the best option.

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Cram  
Last month

Daniels to New Orleans seems to be a great fit.

He'll be on a good team but will have a chance to contribute as potentially the first or second wing off the bench.

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Big Fudge  
Last month

Actually really liking what the Pelicans are doing, especially if Zion can get healthy and contribute. McCollum was a great trade last season.

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Cram  
Last month

oooh Dieng to the Knicks. A very Knicksy move swinging for the fences.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Dieng to okc

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Cram  
Last month

I actually may have been too harsh on the Knicks. Moving Dieng to OKC for multiple firsts. Actually seems a wise move for NYC. OKC can better afford to take a swing like that. Still surprised they didnt just wait to see if he lands at 12

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Mystro  
Last month

Dieng headed to OKC via trade
Some exciting young players on their roster for next season

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Big Fudge  
Last month

Cram, you werent being harsh on the Knicks... its the Knicks, bad decisions is generally what they are good at.

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Cake  
Last month

Cram, totally agree that Holmgren is the most likely to be a bust. But I don't see Banchero as a potential generational talent, and Holmgren has been a much more consistent shooter. Tatum is the one that interests me as a comp for Banchero because they both looked tentative at (many) times at Duke, and I wonder if that's because both were playing the NBA-wing role of primary offensive initiator and it was new to them. If Banchero's 'feel' is only as good as he showed at Duke, I think his ceiling is all-star. If it's better than that, it's higher. But I'm more comfortable with what I've seen of Holmgren's shooting and IQ, the two most valuable traits in the modern NBA. I will give Banchero that I think he did a fantastic job of letting the game come to him, and often made the right play rather than forcing his own offence.

I like Murray in Sacramento. They are so much better off taking guys like him and Davion Mitchell, who have the maturity to help with culture, rather than one-and-dones they don't have the infrastructure to develop.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Giddey-Jerome-Maledon
SGA-Mann-Williams
Dort-KenrichWilliams-Wiggins
Bazley-Roby-Dieng
Holmgren-RobinsonEarl-Muscala

Looks like pocucevski might be gone.
Frazier, krejci and Waters the others used last season.

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Big Fudge  
Last month

Cake - whilst Banchero may not be a generational talent, if I had to pick between him, Holmgren or Smith to have the best career in the NBA id be taking Banchero... 19 years old, he can improve his outside shooting because his mechanics arent bad. He can already score inside and has a great NBA ready body, along with his playmaking ability I am really excited my Magic chose him.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Banchero had some trouble with cramps, happened several times at duke.

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Big Fudge  
Last month

So did LeBron in San Antonio ;)

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TR  
Last month

Charlotte doing Bobcat things.

Traded Jalen Duren to Detroit for the Bucks 2025 1st round pick and four 2nd rounders. Unless Hayward is going to Detroit of the Knicks, this is a f***ed trade.

Mark Williams at 15 is a great pick though. The last time the Hornets picked at 13, and then traded the pick, it was Kobe (noting that Kobe was never going to play for the Hornets, so they had to make the trade).

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Cram  
Last month

I very much doubt Kobe would have sat out if the Hornets held on to him. As an untested rookie who clearly nobody expected to be as good as he was, it wasnt as if he had any power.

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Statman84  
Last month

When will Kai Sotto be drafted?

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Luuuc  
Last month

Just after Luke Travers

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Canada now have 30 nba players.

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Isaac  
Last month

OKC pick Jalen Williams and Jaylin Williams in the same draft.

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Isaac  
Last month

Hugo Besson at #58 to Milwaukee - the last pick in the draft.

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KET  
Last month

Sotto undrafted?

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Isaac  
Last month

Seems so. Might get a summer league arrangement or two-way contract. Shams and Woj are putting out a few of those on Twitter right now.

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Cram  
Last month

3 NBL guys drafted and only 1 was a Next Star.

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Mystro  
Last month

Awesome that Dieng, Travers and Besson all had their names called.
Congratulations to the players and their families.

I wonder if Indiana may stash Besson in NZ?

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Next year nbl draftees

Hukporti
Digbeu
Sotto
Rupert



Aussies, maybe

Proctor
Armstrong

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Crackers65  
Last month

Can't believe Kai Soto not taken. These damned Americans know nothing about basketball.

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Zodiac  
Last month

How come there were only 58 picks, NBA draft is always 60 picks?

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Luuuc  
Last month

2 teams forfeited their late picks

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Zodiac  
Last month

Surprised Travers got drafted but Sotto didn't, then again NBA scouts aren't exactly the best judges.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Seriously Luc? I've never heard of an NBA team forfeiting draft picks?

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Luuuc  
Last month

Why did the Bucks lose a second round NBA Draft pick?
The Bucks were forced to forfeit a second-round pick this year for an illegal sign-and-trade with the Kings for Bogdan Bogdanovic. During the delayed free agency period before the 2020-21 season, Bogdanovic was a part of a trade that occurred on Nov. 17 when free agency wasn't to start until Nov. 20.
The NBA investigated how the deal occurred, and found the Bucks jumped the gun in talking to Bogdanovic. To add insult to injury, the trade ultimately fell through, leaving the Bucks with a voided pick and nothing to show for it.

Why did the Heat lose a second round NBA Draft pick?
The Heat also engaged in some shenanigans during a delayed free agency period, albeit more successfully. NBA free agency didn't begin until Aug. 2 last season. It had hardly commenced when Kyle Lowry was announced to Miami, slamming the door on one of the more pervasive questions of the offseason.
The NBA didn't do anything to void Lowry's deal and he was able to sign without issue, but the Heat were eventually stripped of their second-rounder.


https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nba/news/miami-heat-milwaukee-bucks-forfeited-round-2-picks-nba-draft/j15bzzp9cx5sfs08wvpm1uqw

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Zodiac  
Last month

Ok thanks not so much forfeited as taken off of them but still I can't remember that happening before either.

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Cram  
Last month

"Next year nbl draftees

Hukporti
Digbeu
Sotto
Rupert"

Sotto entered this season so, no.

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Daly  
Last month

Might be a dumb question, but can Kai Sotto enter the draft again next year? He has clear lottery potential but just lacked the exposure in the NBL due to CJ Bruton not really liking him.

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Anon  
Last month

No. Sotto is now an undrafted free agent and not eligible to enter the draft next year. He should have got better advice. If hukporti is holding back another year Sotto should have too.

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Anon  
Last month

Did Digbeu pull out of the Draft? Otherwise he isn't eligible next year either, and will lose eligibility to be a next star.
Some of these kids need better people taking to them about declaring as an international. Travers I think was lucky, and unlikely to play. Good on the kid for getting picked up but Brad Newley also got drafted.

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Zodiac  
Last month

As did Ater Majok and he never really got near the NBA either, Ben Pepper got drafted by the Celtics same draft CJ Bruton got picked too.

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Cram  
Last month

Ben Pepper got drafted!

I wouldnt have thought being drafted would affect their status as a next star since they're 2 year contracts? But then who knows with the rules changing so often

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Dunkman  
Last month

What being draft does is open up a lot of interest in Asia and Europe, where you can earn very good money

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Toddy  
Last month

So much for "Sotto will definitely be picked blah blah blah". He didn't go anywhere

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AussiePride  
Last month

Massive error by Sotto's camp in getting him in the draft this year. At best a late second rounder whereas if he continued his improvement would have been a certain first rounder next year. Opportunity lost!

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An1234  
Last month

What's the latest year Mojave King can get drafted? Doing well in NZ. Hope he gets an opportunity. I liked the small glimpses he showed

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Stevy  
Last month

Taking the 1 million USD 5-year deal from Real Madrid in 2018 would have been the best option for Kai in hindsight, but it's too bad that his handlers/camp have made poor decisions for him throughout his career (Declining Euro offers for AAU, leaving ignite for cancelled Gilas games or not going to NCAA). They were too greedy in my opinion. Kai is the kind of guy you have to develop, especially being a big guy.

His camp was rushing him throughout his career and looking for the fastest way to get compensated. They should have gone with it slowly but surely and now he's undrafted. He simply needs to make better decisions at this point of his career and stay away from his dumb advisers. I would like him to finish his contract in Adelaide first and take it from there.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Wow wow wow Kai Sotto and his camp declined an offer like that from Real Madrid? Hahahaha.

What utter morons.

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Perthworld  
Last month

To put things into perspective formthose who don't understand Luka Doncic was also offered (and signed) a five year deal with Real Madrid as a teen.

Evidently not good enough for Sotto though. How can you decline development in Europe from the best club with its massive resources plus a decent salary to boot?

Amazing.

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Dunkman  
Last month

Lost for words, if any may describe it, money hungry.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Thanks to Stevy for sharing that nugget of gold. I'm still shocked at their stupidity.

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Stevy  
Last month

I really feel bad for Kai. His camp throughout the years has always been about the money, always about the commercials, the sponsorships, selling merchandise, etc. They even have a Kaiju Basketball Academy in Ohio (unbelievable).

Kai's camp focused more on his brand and revenue instead of doing what's best for his basketball career and potential. 

It's really unfortunate that he has bad people around him. Kai's career is far from over and he is still young, but it's really painful and sad to see what these people around him have done.

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hoopie  
Last month

Dumb advisers? Shades of the Simmons camp?

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