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National Junior Classic 2024

These my predictions for the final positions for the upcoming National Junior Classic

12 Boys:
1st Frankston
2nd Sandringham
3rd Dandenong

12 Girls:
1st Nunawading
2nd Casey
3rd Camberwell

14 Boys
1st Casey
2nd Keilor
3rd Southern Adelaide

14 Girls
1st Kilsyth
2nd Southern Adelaide
3rd Keilor

16 Boys
1st Nunawading
2nd Kilsyth
3rd Whittlesea

16 Girls
1st Sandringham
2nd Dandenong
3rd Nunawading

18 Boys
1st Knox
2nd Diamond Valley
3rd Forrestville

18 Girls
1st Melbourne
2nd Nunawading
3rd Keilor

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Sebastian  
Last month

Who is Southern Adelaide?

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DeepWombat  
Last month

Looks reasonable. Dandenong might be a chance in the U18 boys though. Same for Sandringham in the U16 boys.

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+  
Last month

it's south adelaide and a good chance to be top 4 in U14 G

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+  
Last month

sturt will probably go top 12 finish and forestville top 16 - south top 4 - IMO

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Bluey  
Last month

it's south adelaide and a good chance to be top 4 in U14 G

are they still coached by the 2 obnoxious dads? Hopefully not

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Massive  
Last month

No. Coached by a single obnoxious person.

Last 2 not dads.

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Massive  
Last month

@+ isn't Forestville better than Sturt? Do they have a harder draw?

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SabreTooth  
Last month

No bears in u18 girls?

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Coaching_Obsession  
Last month

Very interesting omission of Casey 16 Girls seeings as they have recently beaten all 3 named teams Sandy by 10 with Maddy Ryan playing.
Dandy by 30 and Nunawading by 20.


Similar boat for Casey 18s also would be pushing top 3 going of VC results so far.

Just food for thought everyone has different views

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Massive  
Last month

Norwood have a chance of making top 3 in U16 girls. Starting 5 is almost the SAM State Team.

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+  
Last month

massive IMO - neither Sturt or Forestville have the depth / ability to match it with the tops teams

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CoachGirl  
Last month

Will any of the games be live streamed?

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Massive  
Last month

Yes games will streamed through by.

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DeepWombat  
Last month

https://www.basketballvictoria.com.au/njc/njc-livestreams

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DeepWombat  
Last month

That link still points to 2023 games, but apparently it will have the 2024 livestreams available from tomorrow.

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By the sea  
Last month

U/14 Girls Standings

Top 4
Kilsyth
Sth Adelaide
Sandringham
Keilor

Melbourne
Bendigo
Casey
Bulleen

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By the sea  
Last month

U/12 Girls Standings

Top 4
Nunawading
Camberwell
Frankston
Dandenong

Sandringham
Casey
Melbourne
Waverley

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By the sea  
Last month

U/16 Girls Standings

Top 4
Sandringham
Melbourne
Nunawading
Eastern Mavericks

Dandenong
Kilsyth
Casey
Norwood

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By the sea  
Last month

U/18 Girls Standings

Top 4
Melbourne
West Adelaide
North's Bears
Forrestville

Sandringham
Nth Adelaide
Casey
Nunawading

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Footloose  
Last month

Thanks By the sea, do you have a boys ranking list for us too?

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Last month

U18 B -

Knox
Diamond V
Dandy
Frankston

bankstown
casey
north bears
centrals

you'll find it all - just google "sports HQ 2024 national junior classic" for all tables / results.

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+  
Last month

sorry "play hq 2024 national junior classic"

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+  
Last month

south clearly the best Sa team in u12s and 14s - a few top 8 teams.
norwood all top 8 - rest of SA bottom 8.

However u16-18s a lot more SA teams in top 8

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+  
Last month

west u18 Gs not at full strength and still on top of their pool

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+  
Last month

South and possibly Norwood will be the junior power bases the next 5 years in SA looking at these results.

How times have changed.

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KD35  
Last month

Norwood into the Medals in U14 but Souths not? Wow
Big shock there!

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AJ16  
Last month

SA Results UNTIL the semi-final stage.

Forestville u18 girls (gold medal match), Eastern u16 girls (lost semi) and Norwood u14 boys (semi-final tonight) were the only SA teams to make top 4.

Top 8: 10 teams (of 32); Top 4: 4 teams; Collective SA group results: 35 wins, 61 losses (11 teams didn't win a game in group play).

Best age groups: (U14 boys - 2 teams in top 8; U18 Girls – 3 teams in top 8)
Worst age groups: (U12 Girls & U16 Boys – 0 top 8 teams)

U12 Boys
Sturt: 9-16
North: 9-16
Norwood: 9-16
South: 5-8

U12 Girls
West: 9-16
North: 9-16
Eastern: 9-16
Norwood: 9-16

U14 Boys
Norwood: 1-4
North: 9-16
Sturt: 9-16
South: 5-8

U14 Girls
Sturt: 9-16
Forestville: 9-16
Eastern: 9-16
South: 5-8

U16 Boys
South: 9-16
Forestville: 9-16
West: 9-16
Norwood: 9-16

U16 Girls
Norwood: 5-8
Sturt: 9-16
Forestville: 9-16
Eastern: 1-4

U18 Boys
Forestville: 9-16
West: 9-16
Norwood: 9-16
Central: 5-8

U18 Girls
North: 5-8
West: 3-4
Eastern: 9-16
Forestville: 1-2


Should also say it is a PLEASURE to use PlayHQ compared to BasketballConnect! - BSA take note!!!

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PhilFrance  
Last month

Hello,

I would like to know the roster for WCU17 in turkey for the Boomers. If you have size, position and team for this year and the next season. It will be great.

Thank you at all.

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Massive  
Last month

Seems like a standard NJC with those results.

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By the sea  
Last month

Well I just witnessed a superstar in the making.
Maddy Ryan from Sandringham.
U/16 Girls.
What a game.

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Sebastian  
Last month

Only one non-Victorian team in the Grand Finals. All the experts lol

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By the sea  
Last month

Well I just witnessed a superstar in the making.
Maddy Ryan from Sandringham.
U/16 Girls.
What a game.
32 points
20 Rebounds
8 assists
5 steals

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Certainly one of the best from the 09/10 group.
All the names we see dominate at state level did the same at the njc.

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Bluey  
Last month

Ryan is legit, shame for the Vics that they won't have her come AJC's. Is it true that the Nunawading U16 boys have half of the Vic boys state team and only just got over the line against a team with no state players?

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By the sea  
Last month

Final Standings.
Girls

U/12
Dandenong
Frankston
Camberwell
Melbourne
Nunawading
Waverley
Casey
Sandringham
Bankstown
Norwood
Swan Hill
Eastern Mavericks
Hills
West Adelaide
Sydney
Nth Adelaide

Thoughts?
Nunawading would be disappointed

U/14
Bendigo
Keilor
Kilsyth
Melbourne
Sth Adelaide
Sandringham
Casey
Bulleen
Frankston
Penrith
Manly
Eastern Mavericks
Sturt
Canberra
Forestville
Sutherland

Thoughts?
Sth Adelaide disappointed with 5th
Frankston not making top 8 is a bad result.

U/16
Sandringham
Melbourne
Eastern Mavericks
Nunawading
Casey
Norwood
Dandenong
Kilsyth
Forestville
Geelong
North's Bears
Hills
Illawarra
Diamond Valley
Sydney
Sturt

Thoughts?
Sandringham winning so easily without theorem starting guard. Maddy Ryan a star.

U/18
Melbourne
Forestville
Norths Bears
West Adelaide
Casey
Sandringham
Nunawading
Nth Adelaide
Keilor
Kilsyth
Manly
McKinnon
Hills
Bulleen
Bankstown
Eastern Mavs

I don’t know much about this age group.

On a side note, congratulations to the young female coaches seen over the tournament. A breath of fresh air.


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By the sea  
Last month

Correct Bluey.

Sandy more than competitive.
Should have had at least 1 player make State.

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Bluey  
Last month

Scalzi? The kid who had 22, surely Matt Scalzi's kid?

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By the sea  
Last month

He had a great game today but Spencer Mitchell been killing it all year. Son of Simon Mitchell.

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By the sea  
Last month

He had a great game today but Spencer Mitchell been killing it all year. Son of Simon.

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Bluey  
Last month

oh okay, makes sense, thanks By the sea

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Steed  
Last month

One non-Vic team got through to a GF? Someone didn't get the memo.

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+  
Last month

12 G - SA teams about where i expected them.

14 G - Sturt and South teams finsihed below where I expected them - expect a better showing from these 2 teams at u14 clubs later this year. Surprised Mavs finished above Sturt and Fville.

16 G - Fville and Norwood a couple of spots lower than I expected - Mavs could've made gold medal game on a good day. Sturt probably not enough Div 1 depth nowadays in those older age groups as they are used to (they are 4th or 5th in home & away - so an achievement for them to make it).

18 G - west at full strength would've won but what is full strength now with higher level commitments ? Possibly depth affected North and Forestville around teh mark.

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Massive  
Last month

@+ some interesting viewpoints.

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DeepWombat  
Last month

12B - Vic teams top 4

14B - Vic teams top 2

16B - Vic teams top 5

18B - Vic teams top 4

A lot of dominance of Vic teams in the boys.

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Bluey  
Last month

anyone know how many Vic Country State players are in the U16 Gippsland United boys team?

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DeepWombat  
Last month

Just one - Will Hamilton

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Bluey  
Last month

thanks DeepWombat, they did well too then didn't they!

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LC  
Last month

12G: Top 8 teams all VIC. Nunawading had a starting guard go down injured in the last pool game which threw them out for their QF where Melbourne's big dominated. Little separates the top 4 or 5 U12 teams from VIC.

14G: 8 of the top 9 from VIC (other is South Adelaide). Bendigo did well - they won this same division back in 2016. Not bad from a country association!

16G: 6 of the top 8 from VIC. Other two from SA. Injuries hurt some teams. Sandy a clear standout.

18G: 4 of the top 8 from VIC, but only Melbourne -- who won -- inside the top 4. Were North's to reliant on too few? Tigers were very deep and polished.

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Blues67  
Last month

@+ I would think West Adelaide U18G at full strength is Krystal Thompson only. They probably get the bronze with her available but she wasn't, that’s sport unfortunately, injuries happen. West were a real over achiever, putting their semi final performance aside they should be proud of their weekend.

Sienna Lehmann is a CoE athlete these days and has been for a while now. Adding a CoE athlete to an "unavailability list" is probably a stretch at best. It’s about time the CoE draw a line in the sand on this topic. If you take up a scholarship, your new 'club’ should be the CoE and should be cleared to the CoE for the duration of the scholarship.

Norths Bears were an underachiever, relied to heavily on Perkins, Jackson was underwhelming and Finney’s shot not falling in the semi was the reason they were in the 3v4 and not the 1v2. The warning bells should of been ringing after the Nunawading QF.

Melbourne and Forestville were the legit grand finalists. Forestville, with 3 bottom age starters should be near the top in ‘25

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DeepWombat  
Last month

Gippsland U16B are a strong team that is well coached. They also have a very good PG in Ford Gore. Not sure where he sits in the Vic Country PG pecking order, but I'd say he plays at a state level.

Also agree on Spencer Mitchell above, he would fit in very well with the Vic Metro U16 boys side. Strong scorer and creator, though a question mark on his defence. Perhaps that's what held him back, or more likely his choice to opt out of SDP.

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By the sea  
Last month

Agree Deep Wombat
Not toeing the BV line with SDP did him no favours unfortunately. Shouldn't matter if your talented enough.

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KD35  
Last month

12B - Frankston a cut above. No one came close all weekend, great team across the board with some really elite players at that level!

14B - Casey tore apart Keilor, 36 points in the end. Ouch. They go 10 deep, too big too talented for anyone that faced them. Exceptional group to watch.

16B - Nunawading pushed all the way by Sandringham. Didn't know much about the Sandringham team but plenty as been said above!

18B - Dandenong are stacked, great tournament from them. Great players across the board!!

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Billo  
Last month

Congratulations to the Sandy U16 girls, a much deserved win this year. Ryan had a good weekend and was great in today's GF with 32. Shout out to the entire team, what a strong group. Tigers girls had a great NJC and deserve much praise. It is good to have a Vic team win it after the past couple of years.

@By the sea - I agree with everything you said. But also giving credit where it is due, Ryan was soundly beaten by one opponent over the weekend. Flames PG Elliott totally shut her down in their head to head match up. Maybe the Tigers should have watched that tape before today's GF and adopted a similar tactic. Maybe a missed opportunity.

All props to the Tigers U18 girls, backed up great SF win with a strong GF. Loads of talent and well coached. Credit to Forrestville, I believe half their team is from the U16 gold medal team from 2023. North Bears slightly disappointing for them? but still winning bronze is a great achievement.

Nice to see the Dandy girls in the 12s and Bendigo girls in the 14s get up. That Bendigo team look like there are some good years for sure. A credit to their program out there. It has been a while since Victoria has had a clean sweep in the girls NJC.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Elliot boosted her profile for sure, won't be easy making this years u15s N.T though.
Both Ryan and Hocking were excellent and no doubt a lock for oceanias.
Thought Bonham had a poor njc by her standards. Daly ok, so too Barbakas.
Clague with a lot of potential in the C spot but not as developed as others, especially those in qld.

Some good prospects in the boys u16 also, mainly all from vic.
Think qld might be the gold standard at ajcs.

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DeepWombat  
Last month

Clague looks like a player who should have been a massive target for development, but he doesn't appear to have had anywhere near enough.

Who do you think are the prospects in the U16 boys Weedy?

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YouthCoach  
Last month

14G Eastern Mavs very unlucky to have missed club nationals, had a poor showing at State Champs finishing 4th. Regularly they beat Sturt and Eagles but 10+ points. South would be heartbroken, same (lesser?) group silver medalled 2 years ago. Though they may dominate SA their style is showing less than dominate at National level.

16G Norwood would be incredibly disappointed with 6th. Especially with a SAM loaded team. Hardin underperformed and Gribben very quiet. Elliot showing more than last year's classics and Nationals.

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Massive  
Last month

can see elliot making a late run for an nt spot after a quiet 2023. best tourney shes had outside of sa and did it at the right time. looked strong and confident and carried her teams offence at times. norwood unlucky not to do better. had a tough draw.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

3 from nunawading, Hamilton, Uzcategiu, Pavey, Browne, Isaako

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

S5 for U15 pretty clear atm imo

Hocking
Smith
Olechnowicz
Ryan
Johnson

Outside shooting not strong in this group.

Couple others probably locks, a couple injured.
Scarafilo gets her shot from emergencies.

Elliot would have to nab 1 of 2 pg spots and probably 4-6 in contention.

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YouthCoach  
Last month

Elliott injured for the early part of 2023. Her selection will be dependent on her performance at AJC.

Hocking almost certainly a lock. SAC looking like they could have a strong showing at AJC with numerous Eastern players within the team.

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Massive  
Last month

Outside shooting not a problem against oceania powerhouses :-) Will prbably need it the following year for Asia and then definitily for thr WC after that. Time for that group to work hard on it and tome others will come into the picture as some fall away when the game changes in the older groups.

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Billo  
Last month

I always fully respect your views Weedy on women's basketball around Australia, you're a gun. Your knowledge is fantastic.

I don't normally comment publicly often about specific junior basketballers, normally prefer to do a lot of reading and watching. But just seeing a couple of comments on here from people the past couple of hours has had me grinning. "Youthcoach", I am not quite sure what to make of your take on things. But if I see something clearly incorrect I will make a comment. I acknowledge that this is just a casual forum and people are just putting across their own opinions at times. Having said that, the following is just simply my opinion as well.

As someone who is closely involved with rep coaching within Vic girls basketball the past 5+ years we keep a close eye on interstate players both live and online across most tournaments. I was there courtside this weekend at the NJC watching many girls basketball games. It is part of the role of coaching to see as many key players in person as possible. I am old school, I always prefer live over any video clip. It is silly not to always be taking a close look at all of the girls from around the country.

I can say that many coaches in Melbourne would definitely rate Elliott as probably the best 2009 PG in Australia over the past few years. Speed, elite ball handling and ball distribution, and can definitely score heavy. The direct feedback I have heard from a couple of Melbourne-based club coaches is that she has always been one of the hardest players to defend at times. The multiple games I have seen played (over a number of years) she has shown extreme composure and high basketball IQ which is very often lacking at this young level. Once again I think she was in the top couple of scorers this weekend. Has had excellent past NJC and this current NJC tournaments and U14 Club Nationals and is always in the top scorers. I believe was injured just prior to 2023 AJC and I think may have actually missed the 2023 NJC. So mid 2023 scouting was obviously harder to gauge due to lack of basketball.
My earlier comment on the match up with Ryan was because that viewing was one of a few penciled in 2 weeks ago when the NJC draw came out. I was courtside and watched probably 90% of that game. Ryan is one of Victoria's best young prospects in recent years and I was giving credit to an interstate player who definitely won that battle hands down no arguments. We credit great basketball no matter which state they come from.

Fakalata is also highly rated, especially for her speed and skills. Good scorer as well, from most spots on the floor. If you are talking true PG role players then I would have these two in front.

Hocking is always in the top bracket in scorers in most tournaments. Great player and effort but definitely not quite at the same level of speed, ball handling and distribution. High percentage of points come from inside the paint via lay ups, drives and resulting foul shots. Definitely an impact player, but not seen as a true PG role at a higher level. Maybe SG, wing, depends on what style that team is adopting.

Olechnowicz and Smith are elite players but may end up have varying roles over the next couple of years. Again, not seen as true distributing PGs, more SG or even SF/PF (Olech). On track for big futures.

I read a lot of information on forums and see a number of girls heavily promoted on socials each month, but just thought I would offer a short coach's perspective of what we see and have discussed over the past couple of years in this particular age group (on this thread). Rep coach's views and reviews on player rankings can be quite different to what is splashed across our socials in edited video clips! In addition to our local girls (of course), we actually invest a lot of time into analyzing certain interstate players. There are many other girls in the 2009/2010 age group as well, I have only briefly mentioned a few.

National coaches may have slightly different views and takes on all of the players, but ultimately we all have access to the same information, footage, stats and watch the same games played. I am sure the scouting reports wouldn't be too extremely different.

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Massive  
Last month

@weedy who do you think the 4-6 pgs are? In addition to those mentioned already a couple from qld but passed that I'm not registering any else.

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TP  
Last month

Hands down Elliott from Norwood 16 girls was the best player we come up against from our side of the pool. She had 24 points in the first 3/4s.

Her abiltiy to get the shot up quickly both spot up and of the dribble was very impressive.

We made adjustments in the 4th to get keep to 2 points which was a super effort by our girls.

I got big raps on Michshall from Sydney Comets, I believe she is part of the NSW Metro team. She could be one to keep an eye on at nationals in a few weeks time.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

For different reasons

SA
Hocking / Elliot

QLD
Thorburn / Catip / Puruto

VIC
Fakalata / Jones

WA
Robinson

Several others tier 2

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Blues67  
Last month

@YouthCoach
Imo, Norwood U16's 6th place finish is a fair reflection of where they are at currently. Having a SAM loaded team is not really a positive this year as it is pretty common knowledge that this will be the weakest team SA has fielded at a AJC for sometime.

Unfortunately, Hardin is very small and I expect her struggles to continue as she moves into U18’s later in the year. She was great last year at U16 AJC but she flew under the radar in a loaded SAM team. Gribben is only a bottom age big and will most likely be a long term prospect if she continues to grow?

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Bank shot  
Last month

@DeepWombat.
Clague, the older has had some opportunities with the NSW state program but he has been at a weak association and he hasn't been exposed to NSW Premier League competition previously. Both he and his sister have moved to another program this year which should see better development (Norths Bears).

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DeepWombat  
Last month

Great to hear. We should be throwing development resources at that kid.

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Massive  
Last month

agree. she is huge upside and it needs to be done sooner not later other wise she might miss the boat.

HArdin alwys written off by people but always produces and is unfair to say she was just part of a stacked sa team. she was outstanding in ajc last year. sometimes short kids come through!

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TRFC  
Last month

Clague senior aged out now I think. Junior needs mentoring but could be a unicorn in my opinion.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Cockburn - Decent make up, however lack size. What they lack in size they make up for in spades with shooting. 4-6 guys who can all hit.

I think the Cougars do have height with Jackson, Peter and Chayse! All 3 are pretty tall and can ball. I wouldn't under estimate the Cougars...

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Cantshoot3s  
Last month

@ Massive - Agree with your comment Re Harden. Short kid with a high IQ! I wouldn't be writing her off and im sure she make life really hard for all the players/guards listed above in Bendigo!

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Yesman  
Last month

Hearing different things about what happened with the U14 South girls. Was not expecting that. They only beat Frankston by 1 point and then finished 5th and should have really reached the GF, especially with Chloe George as an addition. Anyone have any insight?

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Massive  
Last month

@blues67 Norwood could easily have been the final. They had a hard draw lost to rivals mavs in 1-8 and have always beaten tigers. Then we're not far from sandy so its unjust to say 6th is where they are.

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Jayhoops  
Last month

Shoulda Woulda Coulda. They went 3-3 and lost their last game.

There are plenty of Vic teams that didn't get an invite to Classic and might fancy themselves top 8 in the country. We'll never know.

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Gazelle99  
Last month

@yesman: X's and O's aside, the coaches sideline behaviour in the quarterfinal definitely contributed to them losing that game.

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Massive  
Last month

@jayhoops not in the 16 g comp.

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Yesman  
Last month

@gazelle99 Yes some fragile girls in that u14 south girls team. I've seen him being aggressive to them before. Heard they went to pieces under the pressure. They’re not used to high pressure games as they dominate inSA so much. Need to play some tougher teams to get used to it and have a bit more nurturing from their coach by the sounds!

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Bluey  
Last month

Not sure I'd be labeling the players as fragile, considering their 12 year old kids. At least one of the obnoxious coaches is gone from their bench, get rid of the other one and maybe they'll play a bit closer to their potential.

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By the sea  
Last month

IMO don't think the coach should be doing U:14s.
He actually apologised to the bench before one of the games he case he swore!!!
They were a talented team who maybe didn’t play to their potential??

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Tuckya Shirtin  
Last month

Give credit where it is due. The Melbourne Tigers guards were exceptional in this game and completely out hustled the South team.

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DoGooderBaller  
Last month

Bluey Perhaps some of the girls became fragile after year upon year of excessively aggressive coaching. Stranger things have happened. Agree that Melbourne guards were great in this game, but certainly not the stronger team. South Ad U14 Girls should have reached the GF.

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Bluey  
Last month

Fair enough DoGooder, just feel like labeling the players as fragile is akin to blaming them, when clearly the coach (and his buddy from U12's) is the problem

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Yesman  
Last month

Bluey it was not my intention to imply that the girls were at any fault. They are 12 and 13 year old kids. Most are fragile in one way or another - most humans are! And yes, dogooder, I agree this group has been exposed to very harsh and aggressive coaching for years. It's there for all to see. Too much aggression without the nurture and love from a coach is not good for kids at this age (is it ever good for anyone?)...

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Bluey  
Last month

yep for sure, not good for anyone, let alone young kids. I hope questions are being asked because there's some real talent (& length) in that group, it would be a shame to see them head to another sport.

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Yesman  
Last month

Agreed Bluey. I believe that 4 or 5 of them are very talented footy players...plus a school sport state netballer too.

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Hooping  
Last month

"S5 for U15 pretty clear atm imo"

Johnson may not even start for her state team.

Olechnowicz and Smith have never been regarded as PG's, they are both SG's and in Olechnowicz case perhaps the best on ball defender in the country for her age group and probably all u18s age groups. Good luck to other teams at Nationals.


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LC  
Last month

Does anyone know who won the MVP's I'm missing below?

U12G ?
U12B Leo McInnes / Frankston
U14G Mia Cox / Bendigo
U14B Mofeoluwa Adio / Casey
U16G ?
U16B Charlie Wilson / Nunawading
U18G Krystal Arnason / Melbourne
U18B Austin Kiriri / Dandenong

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Massive  
Last month

Doesnt a sg need to be a good shooter? Wouldn't those 2 be sf over sgs ?

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Footloose  
Last month

Maddy Ryan was MVP U16 girls

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

U12G Jasmin Kindler - Dandenong

Hooping
Ilic may start but Johnson is my choice for S5.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Isn't really any good shooters apart from maybe Daly

Oceanias...?

Hocking / Elliot
Smith / Scarafilo / Daly
Olechnowicz / Foai
Ryan / Barbakas / Richardson
Johnson / Ilic

Probably 5 others that could slot in.

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Hooping  
Last month

@massive one was 3rd highest 3pt scorer in region and I believe one of the girls in the top 2 wasn't selected. The other was the highest 3pt scorer in their region. They can both shoot it at some level and very tough to contain on any closeout.

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Basketball10  
Last month

Did anyone see the keilor U14's team play? Curious as to how they played as didn’t expect them to finish second in the girls comp

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DoGooderBaller  
Last month

Does anyone have any more info about how selections for Oceanias actually work? And when is this comp? All I know is that players who are on a state or national program might have there names put forward to Aus selectors and this depends on a 'depth chart' including a players skillset, height, athleticism etc. Also performance at Nationals is critical from what I’ve heard. Anyone got any other insight than that? Weedy? And do we know who the selectors are for this 09/10 group?

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

It's always about a month after U16 AJCs before the first camp is announced.
Oceanias historically have always been in the last 1/4 of the year.

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Blues67  
Last month

@Weedy

What does the next 18 months look like with national team camps and what tournaments are they prepping for?

Born

2009/2010 - Oceania + ?

2008 -

2007 -

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Cantshoot3s  
Last month

Any idea of the location of Oceania Weedy?

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

06/07 2024 u18 asia.
07/08/09 2024 u17 WC.
09/10 2024 u15 oceania.
06/07 2025 u19 WC.
09/10 2025 u16 asia.
08/09 2025 u17 oceania.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Dam links.

Last year I heard Fiji but maybe Guam again. Not sure.

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DeepWombat  
Last month

I heard the U15 Oceania tournament may be in Melbourne late this year (maybe November)

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Cantshoot3s  
Last month

Thank you Weedy and DeepWombat.

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DoGooderBaller  
Last month

Thank u for the info

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Crabby Crabot  
Last month

Thoughts what makes the most successful Vic clubs that entered - Dandenong claiming 2 gold out of the 4 teams (12B 4th and 16G 7th) participating and Casey having 8 teams and 1 gold (14B). Or Frankston?
Yes Casey would be ecstatic that all their 1s team made it in, however, mid-placings? Is this enough of a draw card to allure players from other associations?
Interested to hear your thoughts.

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Manders  
Last month

@Crabby, it's helped a lot by recruitment. Dandenong 18.1s has multiple players that have come from other associations (and some that are on their third club). Casey did very well, as did Sandy who is on the rise and very much outperforming.

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Massive  
Last month

Any win at classics is a great outcome. Casey clearly building in a huge growth area. Great facilities and growing population will see them do better. Similar to south in sa. Both on the up and we'll see more of them doing better in a national stage in juniors.

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By the sea  
Last month

Not sure Frankston have much to crow about.
Only 4 teams qualified.

Was expecting a bit more of a medal result with Casey having 8 teams qualified.

Kilsyth & Sandringham on the rise considering they are smaller associations.

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LC  
Last month

You do realise Kilsyth is one of, if not the LARGEST Asscociations in Victoria?

Dandenong are big recruiters. They dragged a huger number of coaches and kids from Nunawading when the DoC moved across a couple of years back.

Sandringham have been a club on the rise (and got some help from players from Frankston too), and Frankston are returning to a strong position across the last 4 years.

Casey is largely home grown success. Keilor also on the rise.

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Manders  
Last month

Casey have a few state players that started life at other associations, and there are a number of people watching closely as to movements of other state players at the end of this year.

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Massive  
Last month

who is the oceanias coaches for boys and girls? do they have to apply or is it by invitation?

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

2 campaigns usually, so assume Garlepp and Cooper-Brown.

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