EssenX
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SEM @ NZB Sun 29 Sept 4:30 EST

He who plays defence, wins.

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TimX  
Last month

What a profound statement normally true for every basketball game
Breakers by 10

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Zodiac  
Last month

Sobey to head-butt Gillespie?

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LV  
Last month

SEM have been unimpressive but also have a very tough fixture to start

One true home game in their first 7 games.

That first 7 includes 1 in Perth vs Perth, 2 in NZ, 2 throwdowns, 1 in Adelaide.

And the sole true home game- their 5th game of the season. Home vs Bris.

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Kolzee  
Last month

Breakers will struggle to contain them but hopefully put the effort in at least to get the crowd going. Should be a good atmosphere. Looking forward to it

SEM have too many scoring options and variation. To win by 8-10 I reckon

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Dunkman  
Last month

Like all I'm liking SEM here, to much fire power, SEM have shown some good patches in games, Hunter has been great. While Sobey has very average, he can turn up and scorch opponents. Looking forward to see what nz can bring, just can’t see them defensively holding SEM. SEM by 15 plus.

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KET  
Last month

Aussie commentary for the NZ Breakers home game, RIP

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Dunkman  
Last month

Yes, give me the nz commentary, Damien Lowry is horrible.

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LV  
Last month

Not a good first quarter by either team.

Standard seems below other games.

Sobey's woes continuing. Couple nice plays but lots of rubbish.

Maybe the virus that swept through NZ team is to blame for their performance

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Dunkman  
Last month

Neither thaese will be in premiership calculations, SEM far better than nz though, have the a good chance of finals, just got defend better.

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Ski 76  
Last month

bottom 2 sides in the league right here

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Ben  
Last month

Lowry is hot garbage, get him off.

Also hot garbage, Nathan Dopey again. Does he not watch game film to learn from previous mistakes?

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LV  
Last month

SEM needs to run more plays for Hurt. He will flat out "Hurt" teams (pun intended). A more efficient scorer than Sobey

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Ben  
Last month

Camera zoomed in on Kelly talking to Sobey on the bench, Sobey not listening.

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Zodiac  
Last month

They can't guard Sobey.

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JCK98  
Last month

So, the NBL no longer have a deal with Sky Sport NZ (got a deal with TVNZ for Breakers games instead and ESPN shows every game), therefore the NBL has taken over production from Melbourne.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Is that right? I just assumed Aussie commentary being used because it's a 10 Bold game.

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Ben  
Last month

@ Zodiac - exactly what Sobey thinks every time he has the rock.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Ben, yeah I know. Sobey's such a conundrum. Unguardable can score whenever he likes but just not a team player at all, Joey Wright says hi, and keeps jacking when they're not falling.

If he realised every game isn't the Nathan Sobey show and took it to the hole more like he did when he was younger he would still be a very good player. But he's a knucklehead so he's just the NBL's Westbrook.

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Dunkman  
Last month

Wieskamp is the better than Hurt, better defender and equally as good scoring. Hurt looks like a five man playing four. SEM would be happy that they have played some D. Breakers like Brisbane look like they are trying to save money with more budget players that top end. Long season for nz coming up.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Damon Lowery is best suited to Overtime he's got no business commentating games.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Unguardable.

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Zodiac  
Last month

3QT

Breakers 60
Sobeys 59

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Screeningnick  
Last month

Sobey is either unstoppable or unbelievably horrendous. There's no in between with his game.

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Dunkman  
Last month

Lowery agreed is not a commentator. Go it Walton jnr in the time out. As per every other season, no defender in SEM.

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Bol  
Last month

Wow both teams so shite down the stretch. NZ giving up the o board off the missed free throw. SEM taking an eternity to foul. NZ with a 5 second violation on the inbound. Sobey missed layup could prove costly...

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Luuuc  
Last month

It wasn't pretty but it's a W

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word14  
Last month

A very unconvincing 2-0, but 2-0 nonetheless

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MaxM  
Last month

Both teams will be bottom 4 in the league

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Dunkman  
Last month

Who put this team together, Hurt can score but is slow and can't defend a statue and played 36 minutes, Hunter 25. One of Sobeys better games but still a loss. Walton jnr doesn’t look fit and while a very good point guard is poor at the defensive end.

Good win by nz, Mccaron looking the best since his united days. PJC is a gun. Not certain how they won that but made shots when they counted.

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Zodiac  
Last month

All going to plan for Tommy Greer. A few more losses and Kelly will get the knife and replaced by Tommy's mate Sammy Mac.

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Superfan  
Last month

Tommy Greer just needs to slot his GM that built the team with him in as new HC

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Maybe  
Last month

Who decided on the SEM coaches and the key players this year?

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101 annon  
Last month

Sobey is terrible, won't get other players involved & just takes bad shots. Walton Jn is lost at the moment & by what I see him & Sobey don’t fit together. Wieskamp, Glover don’t get anything on the wing with Sobey & there is hardly anything played for the bigs . Kelly needs to reign in Sobey . With the potential of the roster they have put together it could be another wasted year if Sobey keeps doing what he is doing.
If nothing changes Kelly will be cut soon & possibly as early as next week if it is another loss against Adelaide

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Maybe  
Last month

so who was the main driver wanting to recruit Sobey?

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Dunkman  
Last month

I heard an interview with Mitchell saying they chased Sobey when they started the club and when he became available this season they were so happy to get him. I thought it was a strange move when Sem recruited Mitchell , today Sobey, he certainly wasn't there worst. They ran last, ,last season but were second in December, I recall then Moller went down and they then started getting more injuries and fell away. Walton jnr is a very reasonable point guard Hunter been great, Glover and Foxwell are fine bench players, Vadonavic is tough but not much of an improvement on Vague. Ayre is very much like Sobey so they obviously don’t see him as required. I actually don’t mind Wieskamp, in the right situation he could be fine, long way convinced on Hurt, he seems to be high on there list but I don’t see it.
Greer oversees all this, sometimes the buck should stop at the top.

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word14  
Last month

Someone should do a case study into how Tassie and SEM have gone on such different trajectories as expansion clubs

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Kolzee  
Last month

Some really strange subs from coach kop and it showed on their performance. Playing like strangers at times and resorting to the 3 ball.

Gillespie getting the treatment from refs which restricted his time oncourt (two calls were rubbish) but he plays a nice role with his screens and boards.

Unless they get bolden playing like a big man and rolling to the hoop then they're going to struggle relying on threes and pjc's individual class

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Ben  
Last month

Dopey and DWJ absolutely cannot co-exist. SEM perhaps hoping Sobey would change his spots, but this won't happen.

SEM won’t have both playing well at the same time, it’s either one or the other.

A shame as DWJ is a class player, but seems SEM won’t get the best from him in the manner the team is currently run. Would love to have seen him running the show for Brisbane.

Kelly to become the scapegoat once the losses start racking up.

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AngusH  
Last month

NZ would be happy to be 2-0 with the preseason they had, but man they've done their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the final minutes.

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Maybe  
Last month

Breakers will come good or at least much better than they are now. Everybody are learning in that team together with the coaches. Bolden needs to learn faster or he can get benched but no longer term issues in general compared to SEM.

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KET  
Last month

"Is that right? I just assumed Aussie commentary being used because it's a 10 Bold game."

It doesn't matter what channel the NBL is on, in Australia/NZ there’s only ever been 1 broadcast that has been simulcast.

Sky Sport pulled a Fox Sports and did cost cutting, I don’t even think they have the NZ cricket anymore.

Anyhoo, they still get all NBL games including all Breakers games via ESPN so they still broadcast it. Why pay for rights when you get it anyway?

So the NBL did a deal with TVNZ which gets it on one of their free to air channels for Breakers games only.

This, I think, is the first time NZ don’t have a local commentary team let alone in-person commentary?

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Zodiac  
Last month

Abercrombie was in the stadium as a courtside reporter.

Shame that Casey Frank has been lost to NBL commentary I always enjoyed his excitable pro-NZB bias. I miss when we used to get their feeds on Maori TV I thnk it was and certain parts of the broadcast had to be done in maori, I used to really appreciate that.

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EssenX  
Last month

Mulligan and Frank were both great commentators.

Breakers playing much better defence than they did last year. The team has significant upside if Bolden learns not to shoot a 3 on the first pass of a possession. The PJC, Mooney, McCarron, Bolden, Gillespie line up played some nice basketball at times.

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Maybe  
Last month

Is the issue of scoring the real issue for Sobey and not the issue of sharing the ball? if so then is it upsetting for him to have such good scores as hurt and weiskamp in the team, because they take " his " shots?

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Ben  
Last month

Must be a real kick in the guts to NZ locals to have Mulligan and Frank replaced by Lowry :D

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LV  
Last month

This entire thread and no comment about the most foul prone player in professional basketball fouling out in 16 minutes!

Seriously, Tend to agree both teams miss play-in. But it's very early days.

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word14  
Last month

Gillespie may need to be looking over his shoulder, especially if Fall plays well in the NBA games

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Mystro  
Last month

A lot of people have written off NZ yet had SEM in their top 6.
SEM are now 0-3 and NZ 2-0 which is great considering NZ weren't expected to really start putting it together until much further into the season.
NZ obviously have a long way to go but the early signs have been encouraging.
Offensively they need to figure things out as running that ball screen at the top over and over for Bolden to pop out for a 3 so early in the shot clock is a recipe for disaster.
Max Darling played some excellent defense but needs to put away the 3 ball, plenty of shooters on the team that he should differ to.
Who would have thought he would be in the rotation let alone starting?
He has stepped up to his credit and hasn't looked out of place.

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EssenX  
Last month

SEM have a good roster. The problem is the DWJ and Sobey conflict. Sobey is surplus. Let DWJ control the team and find opportunities for everyone. You can really play some awesome offence with DWJ, Wieskamp, Hurt and Hunter.

The Breakers get written off every year. But I think Kop is already showing signs of being much more technically competent than Maor.

Darling has clearly showed something at practice to earn Kop's trust. Lopez didn’t look too bad either. And these two, together with Bolden, mean the Breakers have serious upside as the season goes on. The risk for them was making a bad start and then struggling to catch up.

Fouls aside, Gillespie looked pretty good. Last year the Breakers didn’t know how to rebound at all. However, Fall could be an interesting pick up because to maximise PJC you need someone to be a lob threat on the roll. Holden also needs to learn a pump fake, but at his percentages teams are probably going to let him shoot anyway.

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Mystro  
Last month

Yeah I would like to see Bolden & Gillespie get on the rim a lot more

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LV  
Last month

Between Blitz and yesterday that's 16 fouls in 82 minutes for Freddy in NZ colours

After averaging about 10 fouls per 40 minutes last year.

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AngusH  
Last month

Obviously a lot more spacing in the NBA that makes it easier for bigs to attack the paint, but it's still crazy how much of a spot up shooter Bolden has become given the type of player he used to be. I kept waiting for it to reappear as last season went on, but it didn't. Not just offensively, he's not nearly the shot blocker I expected he would be.

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Mystro  
Last month

I think as Boldens confidence grows he'll grow his offensive repertoire.
It's only his second season back after not player for a number of years.
His rebounding numbers are decent so there's that.

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Kolzee  
Last month

I like your optimism mystro but realistically the only other team breakers have plated is bottom of the table bullets while SEM have lost to cats and melbourne so much tougher teams. If we play like that we'll get beaten by those two soundly I think.

I don't have the confidence bolden will change either. If they did sign Fall I'd be more inclined to release bolden and keep gillespie than vice versa

But agree definitely upside with darling, Lopez and king should play better than that generally too

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EssenX  
Last month

Bolden isn't an import, Kolzee.

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Kolzee  
Last month

Yeah true that!

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