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Last month

Why isn't Mitch Creek playing??

Mitch Creek working in the NBL media instead of playing in it is criminal!!

Why is he not playing? How is it no NBL teem have come up with the cash to pay him?

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Q Anon  
Last month

Perhaps the changes at SEM will entice him back

He'll go overseas most likely for more money than what he can earn in the NBL

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LV  
Last month

This week he's training at SEM, according to the man himself on Overtime.

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Master Chief  
Last month

Sixers should apologise, offer him a bag, and then go all in a championship like never before.

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Screeningnick  
Last month

Yeah curious to say the least. Still in the prime of his career and if he's not in the NBL you'd think he'd be playing in China or Japan to get one last big pay day.

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Superfan  
Last month

Was looking like another stint in China from my understanding.

I hear he has a fair bit of personal, "off-court" things going on too.

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LV  
Last month

I've found his comments very odd. He's spoken about spending time with family and not being on a schedule.

But like, he gets April-July off every year already. Maybe a few promotional roles etc.

August - March he's full-time, but NBL players aren't at the club as many hours as most full-time employees.

Just sounds a bit out of touch. Like he can't be arsed putting in the hours anymore.

Wonder if he might regret this attitude in a decade when he's lost the opportunity.

As an NBL club I'd be wary, it suggests his commitment is waning. Plus with past indiscretions there's arguably a lingering question over his character.

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LV  
Last month

And yeah I get they make other sacrifices like travelling for weekends. But the four months a year off makes up for it IMO.

This guy will get a shock if he ever settles with a family and has to pay a mortgage and work a typical Full time job.

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Q Anon  
Last month

Creek is 32 , he signed with Adelaide at 17 so has been a pro for 15 years.

Im told he has been very shrewd and clever with his off court investments

Master Chief suggestions are very wise

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LV  
Last month

Most people work full-time careers of 40 years and have family responsibilities with kids, why does he need a year off at 32? It's odd and suggests his commitment to his craft isn't as great as some other top players.

And his past involvement with the Boomers and off-court stuff also paints the same picture.

He's obviously a talent, he's been one of the top NBL players for the last 6-8 years. But I'd be looking at his as a 2nd or 3rd option in a club with strong leadership- if I'm a smaller club, not sure I want to be signing him and looking for a franchise player. I see him a bit like Sobey in that regard.

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Q Anon  
Last month

I dont think he said he needs a year off

He chose not to play for SEM this season. Now change has been made , that too may change.

He was playing in China and PR. Every NBL team would sign him tomorrow. He can earn more in a month overseas than in a season of the NBL so in a free trade situation I too would go to where Im valued more for less work.

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LV  
Last month

He would've been getting 500k a year at SEM?

Where could he earn anything remotely close to that in a month?

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LV  
Last month

And dont get me wrong, I'm not saying don't sign him

I'm saying I wouldn't be pencilling him in as your franchise player

I'd be having a conversation with him "hey, we'd like you to be our 2nd or 3rd option" and then I'd try to surround him with the right guys and a coach who can set culture standards at the club, because I'm not convinced Creek is that guy who will lead that culture. If you're expecting that from him (like you could from Delly or Jack White or Xavier Cooks) you may be disappointed

if that works for him with the salary you can afford while still finding those other crucial pieces, great.

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Q Anon  
Last month

You may need to understand the difference between net and gross

200k USD net ( imports in China are paid this or around this mark ) v 500K AUD taxed in Australia using 1 of your numbers

500k AUD NBL contract is $294,333 net
200k USD net is 298,938 AUD

Hence my comment he can earn in one month what he could earn in a season.

Remember the 36ers cut this guy pre-season as a guide to what money is on offer in China

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/jamaal-franklin-signs-two-year-deal-in-china/

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LV  
Last month

How many players are on $2mil/ year there? One example doesn't make it common place for guys like Creek

2ndly how do you know that's net?

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Q Anon  
Last month

you can do your own research , I know what I know.

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Zodiac  
Last month

"Im told he has been very shrewd and clever with his off court investments"

I find that hard to believe given the extensive rumours of substance issues which culminated with the alleged DV incident.

I've always considered Creek such an enigma. We've heard so many rumours about him both off-court problems and the 2019 Boomers WC camp stuff that he comes across as a complete tosser behind the scenes but he presents and speaks so well whilst also keeping himself quite private.

I saw him on Overtime a couple of weeks ago and when asked about what he's doing himself now he said he's living in Noosa and just surfing. Such an odd guy. Like he doesn't give a fk basketball anymore but now this report that he's now training with SEM the moment Kelly got fired.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Agree LV if Creek wants to be signed by an NBL team again, and I doubt there would be much of a market for him given his high usage, high salary and numerous off-court problems, I think he will have to accept being a 2nd or 3rd option on a team. Clearly there isn't much of a market for him overseas.

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Q Anon  
Last month

These guys are drug tested up to 3 times per month randomly in season and out of season. If there were any truths behind the allegations , they may well have surfaced by now officially.

RE the DV stuff that was all dealt with appropriately and formally, he was found to have no case to answer after a thorough investigation. Wouldn't be the first and certainly wont be the last time someone thought they could make some quick money.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Yeah I highly doubt that. If would be a PR nightmare for the NBL if one of it's Top 3 players, arguably the best Aussie in the league had a raging recreational drug addiction back then. I doubt we would here jack about it. And don't bury your head in the sand about it either the rumours were prolonged and very detailed like Creek allegedly after a Boomers camp in Vegas where he had been cut supposedly checking into a rehab clinic in the US after being cut.

Don't cast aspersions on victims especially women. Did you see the FB post from the girls father after the police dropped the case? The pic from the aftermath of the alleged incident was very confronting the massive bruise on the side of her face and the father all but said he would get revenge one day.

I know how shit VicPol here both corruption wise and for sending BS cases to the courts where judges instantly throw them out, the police department gets massive heat from above which can lead to a reduction in funding from the govt. Take her case ultimately being thrown out by the police in the context of that environment. Creek could've been as guilty as sin for all we know.

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LV  
Last month

I was Creek's fiercest defender on here at the time with some very detailed and robust discussions (look up the posts) but that was more defending the concept of the presumption of innocence, and reaction against over-reach by others whose verdicts exceeded what was known.

But in the light of day we can say this- Regardless of the specific details of what happened, the publicly known facts do not portray Creek in a positive light.

That comment doesn't rely on guilt or otherwise- the burden of legal guilt is very different to assessing character and culture.

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Superfan  
Last month

In the NBL each team generally gets 1 random drug testers visit to training per season, and 2-3 random games per season. Each visit is only 2-3 players "randomly selected". These guys aren't heavily tested like an Olympic swimmer/weight lifter are.

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Superfan  
Last month

Also when I've spoken to some of his past team-mates, they have not spoken very highly of his character and generally spoke negatively of his position as a leader. Not many respected him as a leader, which makes me wonder how he ever got given the title of captain in the first place.

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Zodiac  
Last month

No shit they're not drug tested hard and it says a lot that QAnon is willing to talk down Creek's alleged ex-hardcore drug addiction and trying to minimise the very serious DV allegations that were made against him.

The entire group ostracised Creek at the 2019 Boomers WC camp, that doesn't happen by accident. I still remember when all the players in camp were a voluntary team dinner the only player missing was Creek and at the same time on Instagram he was busy posting photos of himself getting tattoos done. Priorities.

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Q Anon  
Last month

Wow

Lots of very interesting comments there , hope you would be happy to stand in court and say that.

I, for a fact, know your comment around the Boomers camp is very wide of the mark. The issues then were the same issues for others this year.

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Superfan  
Last month

I would very comfortably stand in court and defend my comments. I'm sure he’d choose to settle to avoid the public scrutiny as usual anyway.

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Zodiac  
Last month

I think QAnon might've been directing that comment at me, he doesn't understand words like alleged, but regardless a lot of us know what went down at that Boomers camp with Creek talikng down to Bogut, Mills etc like they were plebs, giving them orders and the rest of it he got every one so offside with his behaviour.

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Q Anon  
Last month

If thats what you think , thats OK

You arent correct though

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Dunkman  
Last month

While Creek is a very good player, he has never been able to lift the team above mediocre, his D has always been questionable, though far better than Hurt who replaced him. Cotton made an average team into a championship team.
I believe he is waiting for a big Asian offer while he has some down time.

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Superfan  
Last month

I know for a FACT, what I have said is correct.

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JMS  
Last month

Interesting views. From my perspective Creek has always come across a genuine leader and elite player who unfortunately hasn't had the team around him to deliver the ultimate result in the NBL. Surprised to hear comments around him not respecting veteran Boomers, but in fairness Bogut I would imagine could be very confrontational and Creek doesn’t back down which can create conflict. It’s clear Creek is a pro with his training and preparation also. I still think he’s a genuine gun and would love him at United.

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LV  
Last month

He'd be great at United- if surrounded by Delly, Vickerman etc he'd slot in, without the pressure of being a leader

I'd rather have Jack White though.

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JMS  
Last month

Agreed LV. Jack White is the ultimate team glue-guy and leader. You can build a team around those types of characters. You would think higher honours with the Boomers will eventuate as they will need to replace the character of Delly/Mills/Jingles.

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JMS  
Last month

Wouldn't think a non-team guy would offer to help SEM / Sam McKinnon out by training with the team while on a break.

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Zodiac  
Last month

How is him training with SEM helping them in any way? He's helping himself by keeping himself in shape rather than surfing and it keeps his name out there to try and drum up interest from foreign markets, he needs it.

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Superfan  
Last month

Zodiac spot on

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SixersFan  
Last month

I never understood why people would say Creek is a leader. After the alleged incidents his teams bombed out including finishing dead last.

There must be obvious reasons why the Australian Basketball team never considers him anymore even if Q Anon wants to pretend otherwise (He is obviously a mate of yours). Similarly, NBA teams went cold on him. I wonder why.

The league is better now that he is gone.

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LV  
Last month

Exactly, it's a self serving move primarily,

professional players can't sit out for too long. If he's planning on joining some team mid-season he's gotta be game ready

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LV  
Last month

But of course it could help SEM too. Going against good players in practice is a good thing

So you could say it's win-win

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Puff  
Last month

I played with Creek for several years when he was in his late teens early 20's.

I need more than two hand the amount of times he’d go out after games, get absolutely blasted and get kicked out of places for his sloppiness, or giving women unwanted attention, I know, I was there.

Same with using, it was not an irregular occurrence, more than a few on the team were using too, I was there, and did it too.

The allegations of DV are somewhat out of character, but not shocking, but innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

For all the faults the man may have you can’t deny the community effort he put into the club, engaging with the kids and fans, there’s just a stark difference between the public face of a club and his private demons.

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JMS  
Last month

If it wasn't going to help the team why would Sam McKinnon reach out and invite him to training? Adding a competitive big body into training to show the forwards how to box-out and scrap would certainly be helpful. I'm sure we'll see some improvement this weekend.

Sure it also helps him stay in shape but it sounds like he's keen to help his old team.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Creek also still had a year to go his contract with SEM so they still retain his NBL rights for this season so they're basically the only NBL team he can play for until next season so there might be some sort of contractual obligation there if there still paying part of his contract, not sure on that just suggesting. He wouldn't be able to train with any other NBL team this season regardless.

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