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Jack jumpers import

Jack jumpers sign Bryce Hamilton 24 years old 6-4 Guard looks impressive currently playing in Germany put up a 45 point game recently

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Beach Baller  
Last month

This is huge for the JJ's AND the NBL! Quality high level player! Unbelievable!!

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word14  
Last month

They have too many guards, but this guy looks elite

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Scout  
Last month

Ywah an abundance of guards, hope Bannan and Magnay stay healthy

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Baller  
Last month

Word14 I thought they needed another guard pretty badly to be honest with no Crawford there was a lot of pressure on Sean Mac especially coming back off a long term injury

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Baller  
Last month

Scout I would like to know who all these guards are you are talking about?

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Scout  
Last month

Johnson, MacDonald, Hamilton, Drimic, Ayre.

Yes quality and scoring needed at that spot was thinking the import might have been more of a 3 but Johnson, MacDonald and Hamilton is a very handy back court.

But was more referring to the lack of a genuine 3 man. I had forgotten about the signing of Nick Marshall who along with Deng could bring some quality.

Also admit to being over tired with a hang over so I may well be posting some guff apologies!!!!

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word14  
Last month

Johnson, Hamilton, Ayre, MacDonald, Stoddart, Nunn

Nothing objectively wrong with running that lineup of guards, but it's pretty scary to see all those names while the only true centre on the roster behind injury-prone Magnay is Archie Woodhill

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Scout  
Last month

and Johnson is a wing so I am posting guff apologies!

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Baller  
Last month

Word 14 bannan is more than capable of playing the 5 if needed I think we are in a better position than last year in the bigs department just need to keep them healthy. Also so far our main competitors Melbourne Adelaide , Sydney are not overly stocked at the 5 , and the hawks will be missing froling for most of the season

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word14  
Last month

fair points Baller, I just think it's no coincidence that the season Tassie won the championship was the same year they had a true back-up centre in Marcus Lee.

We'll see though, as you say other teams are thin at the 5, and I believe Tassie have said they'll consider cutting someone and signing an import big if Magnay goes down?

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KL  
Last month

They could just bring in an injury replacement player couldn't they? And because they have just the 2 imports it could be an import. So, there would be no need to cut anyone. Bannan could also stay on the books as a marquee.

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Dunkman  
Last month

Two guard with excellent stats from the German league, started every game at just under thirty minutes a game, very good shooting percentage from the two and three. 17.8 points a game is very good for German league, fourth overall in all league. Milton who ::::))).

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The Phantom  
Last month

Rank them as favourites, Hawks missing Froling and probably Olbrich so logically think they would get a premium big, but needing Kell back to be able to defend title.
But Tassie really need that backup big. Street clothes Magnay will at some stage get injured for a stretch as well as foul trouble. Bannon may give minutes there, but I disagree about Adelaide being thin. If anything they've either got guards or 4/5s galore.
If Magnay is off the court, who's going to guard Harrell? Double team him and Cotton and DJ will have a field day, and if Humphries isn't permanently scarred coming off the bench, then he can also cause matchup problems. On the other hand they won't be able to guard anyone on Tassies roster, but the JJs really needed a big body as insurance Said it before, but someone like Pineau would have been absolutely perfect. Boats probably sailed in terms of age now, but even Starling gave Adelaide some decent minutes as a sub before losing his job.
May be able to get a an import big if they do cut someone, just think it would have been better to have them from the start instead of causing a disruption mid season. Even a budget import straight out of college that can just be a body out there.

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word14  
Last month

They should've pursued either Jock Perry or Josh Tomasi further than the 1 season each one of them got as a DP

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Zodiac  
Last month

Looking like a decent roster but level below title contender. Really needed another good big as insurance for the inevitable big Magnay injury. Losing a game breaker like Doyle will hurt too.

In hindsight they probably should've signed a big instead of rushing to sign Marshall too much of a guard heavy lineup.

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Dunkman  
Last month

They had an absolute second rate side in their first season and played in the GF, Roth is not letting this squad slip to anything less. Looking really good to me. Sixers looking offensive juggernaut but in big games you need D. JJs favourites imo.

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Baller  
Last month

The phantom they signed Kobe Williamson a straight out of college big that's definitely got potential. I’m not sold on Adelaide to be honest Harrell is exciting but drifts in and out of games and who knows what Humphreys is going to turn up . Be interesting what style they play Bryce is use to having a whole offence built around him is that still going to happen with Harrell and cheatham there . I think magnay bannan front court is a strong one it’s just a matter of keeping fit

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KL  
Last month

Has an NBA frame and is super quick. Last game he played in the playoffs in Germany he put the team on his back with 45 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists. Scores heavily from mid range and at the basket after beating the opposition D. Bryce like step backs and daggers at the perimeter as well. In the Roth system with other weapons around him the mind boggles how good this guy could be in the NBL. Rebounds and steals are also very good.

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Perthworld  
Last month

In Roth we trust, except that one time when he signed Sword and then Hummer.

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KL  
Last month

Olgun Uluc said on a marketplace episode if my memory serves me correct that Sword was the equal lowest paid import last season and I think Roth has repeatedly said with the original roster build he was intended as a limited minutes disruptive role player. Possibly was a bit better than that and with the benefit of hindsight they would have been much better off keeping him than bringing in Hummer. Roth has said that he wanted to replace McVeigh properly in October but the JJs Board would not release McVeigh's money. By the time they agreed to release some of it, the cupboard was very bare in terms of available import 4s and the result was Hummer.

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Master Chief  
Last month

Looks like an impressive signing.

Is this maybe the Adelaide impact? Suddenly teams need to raise the bar?

It will be interesting to see what Melbourne do. If they continue for role playing imports or splash out a bit more on talent. I would imagine at least one big name import.

JJs always have something up their sleeve.

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The Phantom  
Last month

Baller, definitely not pumping Adelaides tyres up, wouldn't surprise me if they implode again and not make top 4, as I said they've only got point guards, although DJ and Cotton are effectively shooting guards which in itself a problem if both are starting and want their shots. Then it's bigs, no real 3s on their roster.
But just saying if they do play in finals, JJ's lack of depth at centre may potentially expose them. Williamson may have potential but is still a rookie and would think Harrell would eat him alive.
Not sure outside of imports who they could have targeted in free agency that would be happy playing that break glass in case of emergency role. Dare I say and Ive been critical in the past along with a lot of people, but maybe Harry Froling could be a solution if looking for a big body. Others would know better with his form but just looking at his stats for tigers in nbl1 south, they look pretty good.
Wouldn't be surprised if United are giving him a look, if not could JJ's look at adding him. He's definitely not a Roth type, but maybe he's grown up after the last few years. Would be worth a gamble at what looks like their only Achilles heel, don't know who'd go if he does come in and plays well as a replacement at some stage.

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Him Javrilla  
Last month

I imagine the JJs will stagger the lineup so Bannon and Deng can pick up the non Magnay minutes at the 5 if Williamson/Woodhill aren't cutting the mustard.

30 mins for Magnay and Bannon and 20 mins for Deng accounts for all your 4/5 minutes and doesn't look like an issue at all.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Olgun Uluc said on a marketplace episode if my memory serves me correct that Sword was the equal lowest paid import last season and I think Roth has repeatedly said with the original roster build he was intended as a limited minutes disruptive role player. Possibly was a bit better than that and with the benefit of hindsight they would have been much better off keeping him than bringing in Hummer. Roth has said that he wanted to replace McVeigh properly in October but the JJs Board would not release McVeigh's money. By the time they agreed to release some of it, the cupboard was very bare in terms of available import 4s and the result was Hummer.

I'm a believer so that all makes sense.

What a crying shame the board erred in their decision.

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The Phantom  
Last month

If Deng playing significant minutes at the 4/5 and relying on Magnay to stay healthy or out of foul trouble then there is an issue.

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Him Javrilla  
Last month

JJs won the chip with Deng playing 4/5 so not sure how you have settled on that Phantom.

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The Phantom  
Last month

Deng played 11, 4, 16, 13, and 11 minutes in the finals series looking at the boxscores, can see some at the 4 in a pinch but not many at the 5. Could have matched up a bit with JLA on the perimeter, but are you saying he'd be the solution against some of the big boys. Even last season when they lost all their bigs it was Krslovic guarding them. His minutes jumped up because of the injuries but will probably go back to around the 12 minutes again.
So hardly see him as the solution against a true big post player.
So not sure how you settled on that bright idea when he has hardly played the 5 throughout his career.

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Him Javrilla  
Last month

He literally played 23mpg last year and none of it was at the 3.

They won G3 of their title series thanks to him as a small ball 5, which led to lineups with him at the 5 last year.

No need to go any further with this, they are the facts.

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Scout  
Last month

Spose the point is Deng playing at the 5 preferred, would argue no more value at the 3 / 4.

JJs have not confirmed this signing as Ulgun hasn't hoping it is legit and announcements occur.

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Scout  
Last month

Spose the point is Deng playing at the 5 preferred, would argue no more value at the 3 / 4.

JJs have not confirmed this signing as Ulgun hasn't hoping it is legit and announcements occur.

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The Phantom  
Last month

He literally played 23 minutes because they ran out of players, especially at the 4/5, so was forced to play there, that's a fact. Krslovic had the same bump in minutes and played more as a 5. And not having a true big was undoubtedly a major factor in them not making playoffs, if Magnay had played or they'd gotten a decent replacement big import they would have made them.
And why did his minutes decrease after game 3 if that was such a resounding success and reason why they won? Not saying he didn't have a good game but got those minutes at the 5 because Lee got injured and Magnay wasn't playing well. Yet, despite him being such a dominant player according to you, he went back to the bench again.
So really the facts are that he only plays the 5 if Tassie are forced to with injuries or foul trouble. Which is my point that if history repeats itself Tassie will struggle inside.
Deng can indeed play a small ball 5 (aren't you agreeing the 5 isn't his best position), but not for big minutes and depending on matchups.
Sorry to burst your bubble on facts.

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KL  
Last month

Roth stopped playing that small ball lineup because Vickerman would just take JLA off and bring on Hukporti. Deng was a nightmare matchup for JLA as he just couldn't guard him.

As an aside, both Deng and Jayden Adam’s made the all first team in the just completed African league and JLA who played on the same team as Deng didn’t.

As others have said, the JJs will just bring in an import 5 if Magnay goes down again with injury. They do hope Williamson will be good enough to get some minutes in the front court rotations though.

Roth does like that small ball lineup with Deng and will use it against suitable lineups. One of the rabbits he pulls out of his hat at times.

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Him Javrilla  
Last month

"30 mins for Magnay and Bannon and 20 mins for Deng accounts for all your 4/5 minutes and doesn't look like an issue at all."

No idea how you turned this into me saying Deng is a dominant 5. He will play predominantly 4 and pinch hit as a small ball 5 if needed.

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Scout  
Last month

JJs posting some teasers on social media with an image that looks like an anvil.


They love to tease before an announcement!

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Scout  
Last month

It's official

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The Phantom  
Last month


They won G3 of their title series thanks to him as a small ball 5, which led to lineups with him at the 5 last year.

That sounds like you said he was a dominant 5 man and as a result got rewarded by getting double his minutes this past season because of that performance.

He had a good offensive game which he can do, the only reason his minutes increased was because there literally was no-one else to play them. If he's playing 20 plus minutes again then Tassie is in trouble, hence the concerns about the lack of depth in the frontcourt.

How many times has Deng been dragged for blown defensive assignments?

But I guess you know the facts.

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Scout  
Last month

Bottom line yep concerns for the JJs in the frontcourt / 5 spot.

Does that mean they will not be legit - nope.

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Baller  
Last month

I do not get whatsoever people questioning the jack jumpers front court magnay when in form is the best 5 in the nbl certainly from a defensive aspect is him and bannan is a very strong front court and compares very well against the other nbl front courts

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Scout  
Last month

If Magnay stays fit the whole season - yep they have a legit front court and as a JJs supporter I am hoping that is what happens.

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Scout  
Last month

If Magnay stays fit the whole season - yep they have a legit front court and as a JJs supporter I am hoping that is what happens.

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KL  
Last month

Roth back in Hobart on Saturday July 19 with the mini camp commencing from mid the following week. When asked what he thought of the roster he was typically understated and not pumping up anyone's tyres. Confirmed no 3rd import is a function of spend on incoming locals and as insurance should a key piece go down injured etc. Said he learned a lesson last year with McVeigh. per SEN Tassie this morning.

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The Phantom  
Last month

I don't think anyone is questioning the talent of Magnay or Bannan, just Magnays durability and not much experienced depth behind those two. If one or both get injured or in foul trouble then it's Deng at the 5, which is ok because he apparently led them to the championship at that position a few years back. He'll definitely play 23 minutes plus again this year even if they don't get any injuries again.

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Baller  
Last month

The phantom are the jack jumpers really any different to other clubs with injury depth I mean if harrell and humpries went down Adelaide would be no different same with Sydney and cookes the hawks with froling

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The Phantom  
Last month

Well Sydney did struggle in the big man category with Brian not playing Oliver, and did the puzzling move of signing a guard instead a needed big at the deadline who then didn't play. If they had a reasonable big they would have done better. Definitely missed Hunter. But Leupepe rebounding and hustle makes up for his height, the reverse of Deng. Bringing back Soares will help, looks like more of a Bogut move than Brian.
And while Humphries used to be plagued by injuries, he's been pretty reliable the last few years. Magnay is the NBL equivalent of Anthony Davis, you know he'll get injured, just a matter of when. Plus contesting so many shots which is his forte, leads to foul trouble.

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KL  
Last month

Jack McVeigh has been waived by the Ricketts according to reports this morning. Probably doesn't mean anything but have heard he has been back in Hobart in recent weeks.

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word14  
Last month

because he lives there

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Zodiac  
Last month

He was in Adelaide doing some sort of clinic yesterday maybe at Joey Wright's facility. They did an interview with him for the 6pm news.

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KL  
Last month

Understand his wife still lives and works in Adelaide so he has largely been in Adelaide while back in Australia.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Back home in Australia for the off-season, he's now heading back to the United States to continue his incredible journey.

"I fly out Tuesday morning and then we get back to it, with Summer League, talking to teams, working out with teams," McVeigh told 7News Adelaide.

“A year ago I was sitting in the NBL and I said I would be happy with my career if I could score one NBA bucket... well, I was lying.”

https://nbl.com.au/news/no-nba-deal-no-panic-mcveigh-eyes-next-shot

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Zodiac  
Two weeks ago

Olgun reporting Magnay is in the US with an NBA team and that the JJ's will be prepared by keeping a third import spot up their sleeve if that NBA team signs him.

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Baller  
Two weeks ago

Fair chance they will be offering him a two way contract , be interesting what budget they would have for a import big if magnay goes

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Scout  
Two weeks ago

JJs would have planned for this and learnt from not replacing McVeigh appropriately.

Goodluck to Magnay, hoping if he gets picked up the replacement is legit as he will need to be.

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Baller  
Two weeks ago

Magnay is on good money if they used all his salary on a import big they should be able to get a good one , or will they look at just a solid cheaper Marcus Lee type

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KL  
Two weeks ago

Drew Hill (lead Grizzlies reporter for the Daily Memphian) reporting on X today that Magnay is now questionable to line up for Memphis in the summer league. Assume that means he has some sort of injury again. Roth said Magnay had until I think the 22nd of July to commit to the JJs for the coming season. From how he was talking I took it that Roth thought that more likely than not.

NB: I think I also read somewhere that the Kings couldn't afford Marcus Lee’s asking price when signing Soares so maybe Lee is no longer in the budget category.

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word14  
Two weeks ago

Cheers KL, I find the news about Magnay being questionable very interesting, possible injury while working out with the Grizz?

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AntAntAnt  
Two weeks ago

Wrist injury

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word14  
Two weeks ago

The guy cannot stay healthy, saw today he's only played 55% of all possible games for Tassie over the last 4 seasons

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