Crackers65
Last month

Aussies in the NBA

A great day for Aussie basketball and the NBL. Interested to see how many players get farmed out to NBL clubs. We are proving to be an excellent league for younger player development!

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Zodiac  
Last month

Patty Mills, LA Clippers
Joe Ingles, Minnesota
Dante Exum, Dallas
Ben Simmons, LA Clippers
Josh Green, Charlotte
Josh Giddey, Chicago
Jock Landale, Houston
Dyson Daniels, Atlanta
Duop Reath, Portland
Johnny Furphy, Indiana
Alex Ducas, Oklahoma City
Jack McVeigh, Houston
Luke Travers, Cleveland

with potentially more to come, incredible for a pop. of 25 million.

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word14  
Last month

Landale waived

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Cram  
Last month

Landale will get picked up somewhere.

Taran Armstrong was technically with the Warriors this season too

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Perthworld  
Last month

I don't care unless this helps the Boomers dominate internationally.

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boomboomer  
Last month

Patty Mills, LA Clippers
Joe Ingles, Minnesota
Dante Exum, Dallas
Ben Simmons, LA Clippers
Josh Green, Charlotte
Josh Giddey, Chicago
Jock Landale, Houston
Dyson Daniels, Atlanta
Duop Reath, Portland
Johnny Furphy, Indiana
Alex Ducas, Oklahoma City
Jack McVeigh, Houston
Luke Travers, Cleveland

Taran Armstrong
Matisse Thybulle

Rocco Zikarsky
Tyrese Proctor
Alex Toohey
Lachlan Olbrich

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Last month

Next year you can add Dash Daniels and Alex Condon and probably subtract Mills and Ingles realistically

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hoopie  
Last month

Fingers crossed, ME. And hopefully there will be others we haven't thought of.

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Diop Kick  
Last month

Don't see Landale getting another NBA contract

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Cram  
Last month

Landale is still a net positive player when he's on the floor. He does everything pretty well and won't cost much. The only way he won't be in the NBA next season is if he chooses not to (which could happen)

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word14  
Last month

Just for reference Landale's stats in Houston this season

=41 games, 3 starts
=12 minutes a night
=4.6ppg, 3.3rpg, 0.9apg, 0.3spg, 0.2bpg
=Shooting clips of 51% from the field, 40% from 3 and 67% from the line

His scoring and shooting percentages have been on the decline for a few years, but this was his best season from down town and he was right on par with his career average in boards

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The Phantom  
Last month

Is he a net positive because he was on a good team so played garbage time when the game was over?

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Cram  
Last month

No he's a net positive because the team performs as well with him on the floor as it does with him off.

He's a very solid backup big. At WORST he's a third string Centre on a good team.

Could see him landing almost anywhere.

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Cram  
Last month

Cavs trade for Lonzo ball from the bulls in exchange for Isaac Okoro. Clears a guard spot at the bulls which makes it clearer that they're gonna pay for Giddey.

I think for the Cavs it means they're not willing to pay overs for Ty Jerome who was pretty average in the playoffs. Might help Proctor to stick with him theoretically competing with Okoro for the defensive wing minutes.

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The Phantom  
Last month

Fair enough, just looked up landales plus minus on AI and this is what it said.

Jock Landale Plus/Minus Overview
Recent Plus/Minus Stats

For the 2024-25 NBA season, Jock Landale has a plus/minus of -25.

In his rookie season (2021-22), Landale recorded a plus/minus of -17.

Career Plus/Minus Insights

Across his career, Landale's plus/minus has generally been negative, indicating his teams have been outscored while he is on the court.

In terms of game-by-game impact, Landale has posted a positive plus/minus in 40.5% of his games.

His ON-OFF differential (team points difference when he is on the court minus when he is off) is -7.4, suggesting the team performs worse when he plays compared to when he sits.

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hoopie  
Last month

Ouch!

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word14  
Last month

McVeigh waived by Houston

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Cram  
Last month

Landale's box plus/minus (which adjusts for a player's impact compared to league average) and he's a 0.4 which puts him above league average (albeit in non qualifying minutes). This puts him on par with the likes of Myles Turner.

He's basically an average NBA back up centre. He's going to be fine.

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The Phantom  
Last month

Oh, I thought you said his team performs as well with him on the court as it does with him off. That's not the case, even compared with other backup centres.
And on par with Myles Turner, bit of research revealed this:

Myles Turner's plus-minus for the 2024-25 NBA season was +202. This represents the total point differential when he was on the court across all games in the season. Additionally, his average plus-minus per game was approximately +2.0.

Further advanced stats show:

He had a positive plus-minus in 61% of his games played.

The Pacers were +3.3 points per 100 possessions better with Turner on the court compared to when he was off.

These figures highlight Turner's positive impact on the Indiana Pacers' performance during the 2024-25 season.

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Cram  
Last month

I was using BPM not raw plus minus but fine he's trash and will be lucky to get a game on Monday night social league. Happy?

Travers and Armstrong both have qualifying offers for 2-ways so if they want they'll at least be able to do that again next season. Figure that's more likely for Armstrong but Travers might be a chance at a full-time gig.

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word14  
Last week

Somewhat shockingly, Ingles is returning to Minnesota next season

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Cram  
Last week

Yeah I am surprised about Ingles too. Happy for him but he might get the Udonis Haslem not playing a minute treatment there

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word14  
Last week

Exum resigns for another season at Dallas

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Cram  
Last week

So apparently Landale and the Rockets agreed to push the team option out to July 7th, which might facilitate them using him in a coming move.

Kelly Iko reporting that the DFS signing with the Rockets might be turned into a sign-and-trade. This would benefit both the Rockets but keeping their MLE available and giving them more flexibility with the deal, and the Lakers by getting something back in return. I've seen a couple of reports that Landale might be involved in that which would give the Lakers a back up big and also a tradable contract if they need to later in the year.

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word14  
Last week

McVeigh to play summer league for Atlanta

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Cram  
Last week

Houston has decided to wave Landale so at least he'll be able to start looking for a new team now.

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word14  
Last week

Magnay to player summer league for Memphis

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word14  
Earlier this week

Landale signs with Memphis

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Diop Kick  
Earlier this week

happy to be proven wrong about Landale.

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The Phantom  
Earlier this week

I'm not saying Landale is terrible, just that your statement that Houston performs as well with him the floor as it does with him off when facts shows that's incorrect.
He just needs to be in the right situation like he was in Phoenix which led to his rocket's deal, hopefully Memphis can prove the same.

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Cram  
Yesterday

Yeah and what I'm saying is the stats show that when when placed on an average team he's an average performer. Basically removing all of the noise related to who he plays for he's better than half the league.

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LV  
Yesterday

Ingles following in Delly's footsteps, spending a season as a towel waver

Reflects well on Australian basketball when Boomers keep getting signed on for leadership/culture moreso than what they bring on the court

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Cram  
Yesterday

Would love to see Patty get one more season as the vet leader at the Spurs as they move into their new era of potentially contending.

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The Phantom  
Yesterday

Apart from his Spurs stint, haven't his team's been pretty good apart from Houston finding their feet when he first go there.
And I strongly doubt he's better than half the league, so much bias because he's an Aussie. He comes in, works hard, competes and isn't a distraction. Exactly the reason why Ingles got another contract and why you're spruiking for Patty to get a deal.
He's a backups backup. Not better than half the NBA nor does his team do better when he's on court than on the bench. He's literally the poor man's Jay Huff.

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Zodiac  
Yesterday

Landale's a pretty limited player fortunate to even be in the NBA really.

Nice to see Josh Giddey back in Adelaide today doing a camp for the Woodville Warriors.

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Cram  
A couple of hours ago

Landale's advanced stats all show he's at worst an average NBA player. The limitation is the minutes, for sure. He was a situational rotation player which pretty much all backup bigs are these days. But VORP, WS/48, BPM, PER/48 etc all show that he's at least league average and in most cases better.

He'll get a chance to play early in the season for the Grizz and maybe even start with Edey and JJJ out to start the season and should then settle back into a similar situational rotation role once they're back.

He was a free agent for about 24 hours before finding a deal, which I think shows he had plenty of teams who valued what he brings

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Zodiac  
Within the hour

He's a third string centre for a reason and I dare say injuries and most bigs already snapped up is why the Grizzlies went to him. Good luck to him but I think this might be his last season in the NBA.

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