Libertine
Years ago

THIS was in today's Norwood Newsletter...

"ALL-STARS WEEKEND 21+22 AUGUST"

BASA, the Central conference of the ABA and the Hudson Maher Foundation are pleased to present the "Spectrum Label Festival of Basketball".

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Basically, on Sat 21 the winners of the Central Conference will play the 36ers, and the curtain raiser being a womanes ABA All Star game (6:30-8:15).

Next night, same deal, but women's winners playing Lightning and men's ABA All Star gane (mens @2pm, womens @4pm)

Thi is the interesting part: "An internet poll hosted will select the starting 5 for the North and South All Star Teeams". Hmm.

Anyway, tickets through BASA, $10 each, kids under 16 gold coin donation for the Foundation. All other proceeds from Bar etc go to supporting the winning Central team going to the Nationals.

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I'm guessing (based on approximate directions from the city!):

North - Norwood, North, Central, Woodville, West
South - Sturt, Southern, South, Forestville, Eastern

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yogee  
Years ago

Should be a good couple of nights, a chance to see some of the top ABA talent play together.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

excellent idea. whoever thought of this idea is obvioulsy a promoter of basketball in sa, as this will defintely be a winner, and sure to draw a huge crowd on both days. where will this game be held...my vote would be for wayville with the lightning set up, as this way the atmosphere is sure to be electric...thoughts on a dunk comp and 3 point competition, maybe one at half time in each of the games??...maybe on person from each team??
thoughts on the all star teams on current form this season??...
exciting times people, exciting times!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This last post is an excellent idea. Maybe the clubs could provide one player each (male and Female) for the three point shootout. They could also go as far as doing an allstar game of all the under 21 (rookies) players. Alot of talk has been about each young talented players around the abl so bring them out in front of everyone.

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Isaac  
Years ago

I think it's going to be at Pasadena or Wayville.

I talked to a couple of the people involved in the planning and suggested that a 3-point shootout and dunk comp would be very well received but general indication was that those might be something to add in next year. So, AFAIK, no dunk comp or 3-pt shoot-out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

whoever is in charge of this weekend has a very exciting job to do....as this could really be the beginning of an amazing annual event that could be firstly a great spectacle for the basketball public, but secondly and more importantly, a great fundraiser for the hudson maher foundation...bring it on i say...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

isaac,
if you hasd to choose your teams right now, say a team of 10 or 12 for each south and north, what would your teams be??
you certainly seem to be a fair basketball judge who is not in any way biased toward sturt..having said this, surely your brother would be one of the first 1 or 2 players for the south team.

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Libertine  
Years ago

Sorry, forgot to add, it's at PASADENA.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

north:
guards(4): Ng,Mckay,Vandenberg,Webber
Fwds(4):
Whitmore,Lomman,Puddifoot,Bell
Ctr(2):
Bradley,Clayton

south:
guards(4):
campbell,pochintesta,sullivan,gerlach
fwds(4):
davis,holmes,wilkey,hodges
ctr(2):
vasiljevic,forman

i dont think the grand final team will be eligible, so maybe woodville or forestville players at this stage might be out....
great idea people!!!

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Isaac  
Years ago

As far as I'm aware, Sixers AND championship winners are not eligible for the all-star teams.

So, that'd rule out Ng, Holmes, Forman, Nash, and anyone playing for whoever wins the grand final.

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yogee  
Years ago

Why would you hold it as Pasadena, that seats about 200 people, uncomfortably at that.

Put it at the Dome, promote it propoerly, and you could break the 1000 barrier.

Middle of August, night time is freezing, at least there is heating at the Dome.

And the 3rd fact that makes the Dome better is it's a 5 minute walk, rather than a 30 minute drive for me :)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

because the dome's atmosphere sucks unless you get like 5 or 6 thousand people there...that might be pushing it i think
would you rather 1500 at dome, or 1500 at wayville...wayville would go off the heeze...atmosphere would be crazy!!

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Isaac  
Years ago

I think they had 750 at the Arizona game and the atmosphere was pretty decent. I don't know if they'd have to hire the Dome and that might effect the costing?

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bball  
Years ago

I agree Wayville would be a great place to hold it. Theres more seating than pasadena.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lets Just say you could only pick two players from each club to represent allstar game. Here is a very ruff!!! idea of who might play from each club. Purposely took our people in the sixers. Also would love people to fill in gaps for the 3pt contest and dunk contest for each club. regards

South Team
Wilkey
Gower
Gerlach
Pochintesta
Campbell
Pero
Scanlon
Kent
Davis
Mason

North Team
Vandenburg
Bradley
Arnold
Krause
Hambour
McKey
Bell
Cioffi
Clayton
Modra

3pt Shootout
1-Sturt-
2-Southern-
3-Forestville-
4-South-
5-Eastern-
6-Woodville-
7-Norwood-
8-North-
9-West-
10-Centrals-

Dunk Contest
1-Sturt-
2-Southern-
3-Forestville-
4-South-
5-Eastern-
6-Woodville-
7-Norwood-
8-North-
9-West-
10-Centrals-

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Donatello  
Years ago

lets just say picking two players from each team would not do the allstar game any justice...

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Fact Man  
Years ago

Donatello, pull your head in and have a re think!! 2 from each team makes it interesting for all clubs.....not only as spectators but also as willing participants of promoting the game........all clubs MUST be included or only interested parties of clubs with participants will come and watch......I know I wouldnt go if none of my team were in the actual game....in order for this to be a success narrow minded individuals such as yourself should be stopped at the door......with your attitude and thinking you may as well just go and watch the ABL central grand final......besides I reckon I could find 2 from each club that would be worthy........yes even from the bottom 3 or 4 teams........simply put if you dont like the format - RACK OFF!!

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Fact Man  
Years ago

Below is the actual letter -



Ladies and Gentlemen,


as you are all aware the Central Conference Grand Final is to be played
on
August 7, 2004 and the national grand final will be played on the
weekend of
August 28 and 29. Our grand final was moved by an agreement of the club
presidents and the BASA Executive Board so that all players (including
the
36ers and Lightning) could participate for the whole season, including
the
grand final. This leaves a two weekend break and as on the weekend of
August
14 will be the Halls/Woollacott presentation dinner, the weekend of
August
21 and 22 will be used by the winning grand finalists to play against
the
36ers and the Lightning, to keep them sharp for the national grand
finals.
It was realised that this would be a golden opportunity to promote
senior
basketball in this state to the general public and so a program was
devised
that would also include all star games between our northern and southern
teams. At the last Senior Competition Committee meeting the program was
voted on and accepted by all the clubs.

The northern teams will consist of Central Districts, North Adelaide,
West
Adelaide, Woodville and Norwood. The southern teams will consist of
South
Adelaide, Eastern Mavericks, Southern Tigers, Forestville and Sturt.

There will be two coaches selected for each Conference All-Star team.
The
coaches selection will work in this manner. The losing coach of the ABL
Grand Final will automatically become one of the coaches. The other
coach
will be the highest placed in the premiership in the same conference.
The
other conference will also have two coaches chosen in the order they
finish
on the premiership table.

The starting five of each All-Star team will be selected by an internet
poll. The positions will be classified as three outside players and two
inside players. Can all coaches , by June 27, send a list of their top
four
players and stating in which category they are in (inside or outside).
This
list will be placed on the new 36ers web site along with the players
stats
and pictures , so that the general public can vote for their starting
five.

In the case of players chosen from the championship teams and the
36ers/Lightning, their place will be taken by the next highest vote
getter,
an so on. This will be decided after the grand final on August 7.

The next five players are to be chosen by the two coaches, not more than
one
from any team. The last two players are to be under 20 players also
chosen
by the coaches.

The program is planned that the champion men's team will play the 36ers
on
Saturday night, August 21, with the curtain raiser being the all star
women's team. On Sunday afternoon, August 22, the championship women's
team
will play the Lightning, with the all star men's team being the curtain
raiser.

The games will be played at Pasadena. The tickets will cost $10 per
person,
with children 15 and under paying a gold coin donation. This donation
and
part of the door takings will go to the Hudson Maher Foundation. The
rest of
the door takings (after costs) will be shared between the all the clubs.
Part of the canteen and bar takings (after all costs) will go to the two
championship teams to help towards their costs of attending Geelong.

So, please, to make this a resounding success, ALL COACHES send in your
lists well before June 27. The longer you wait, the harder it will be to
set
this up and make a success of it.

This is a golden opportunity to really promote our local league to the
general public. Let's not waste this chance.


Thank you all, and let's all work together for the common good, the
promotion of our league.

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Robert Zimmerman  
Years ago

The only thing wrong with the concept is that the ABL Central Conference has a wild card entry for the Men I.e., the runner up team in the men's comp will also go to the nationals however I do not see any games being organised for them. Also Wayville is not available re the Adlaeide Royal Show however the organises had already chosen pasedena ahesad of Wayville re the atmosphere, obvioulsly none of them had attended a National Championship game or Lightning game at Wayville.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

robert,
you cannot please everyone, we cannot organise games for everyone...what do you think this is?? but fair point none the less.

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Robert Zimmerman  
Years ago

If it is a fair point why not try and do something about the situation. Play the 36ers against the championship team and the all star team against the runner up problem solved with what is likely to be available for the 36ers side one all star team may be enough because if say Woodville finish 1 or 2 then Ng will be unavailable for the sixers same goes for Holmes/Esatern Rees/Forestville Oscar/Sturt so who will be avialable to play for the sixers Rycart probalbly wont be here maher hopefully will be in Athens if not probably not fit to play just leaves the coaching staff and the manager

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Isaac  
Years ago

No, Holmes/Rees/Forman/Ng will be playing for the Sixers AFAIK. If Woodville win it all, then they'll be playing without Darren as I understand it.

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Robert Zimmerman  
Years ago

If I was the Coach of the team that finished second then I would not want any of my players playing in an exibition game one week from the national finals and if i finished top then i would want my team to be playing together one week from the national finals not having my gun player playing against me surely that makes sense seeing the original idea was to provide match practice for teams heading to geelong

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I agree 100% with what Robert Z is saying.

On another note, I don't see why the Sixers have to hold up the "sorry you can't play card" to ABLers who are playing in the finals. Surely playing in high intencity games where they have to be counted is helping develop the player.
Are we wrapping our Sixer players in cotton wool?

Naturally, they will train with the Sixers but just play in the ABL finals.
Does this happen(no) in the SEABL where players are in finals but are contracted to play NBL.

For me, the Sixers decision to take out the ABLers in the finals is crap & shows a lack of respect to the Central Conference, it fans & basketball in general.

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Isaac  
Years ago

I think the Sixers players still play in the ABL finals. And they play against the conference champion in this All-Star weekend.

They just will be picked for the Sixers squad for the All-Star weekend and not their usual team or the North/South All-Star groups.

If you take Holmes, Nash, Forman, Ng, Rees, etc out of the All-Star selection process, you've immediately opened 5 positions to players working their way up.

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Robert Zimmerman  
Years ago

You are missing the point Isaac. What is the point of playing a game that is meant to be a practice game for one of the teams heading to the nationals if they are not able to have their gun player Ng/Woodville etc surely it makes sense for the player (sixer) to play with his ABL side in preparation for the nationals in geelong

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Isaac  
Years ago

Maybe players do play with the champion side, but not in the All Star squad. I don't know.

And I think that this could be more about basketball in general (i.e., an event) rather than a scrimmage for a team with a weekend off.

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Robert Zimmerman  
Years ago

This is about the President's bowing to Phil Smyth and bringing the season forward, going against the Senior Committee, and leaving three weeks between the ABL final and the nationals giving players nothing to do but celebrate which is not an ideal prepartion. In return Phil agreed that the sixers would be available to scrimmage against the champion team and this weekend is a result of that promise which still leaves me with two questions what about the runner up team in the men's competition going to the nationals as a wild card and who will actually be available to play for the sixers.

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j bags  
Years ago

I don't think that it is up to the the league to decide who the runner-up should play. I think that the runner-up should do som eorginisation of there own. BASA has provided a draw for the year that has almost come to an end, and finals are just around the corner. The 6ers in conjunction with BASA have said it would be great for the game to play a "show" game to keep the championship team in top nic for the national final. I don't see that it should be up to the league to accomodate for the looser. Maybe the looser should orginise a scratch match Vs there own chosen All-star team and promote internally in the week between the final. Use this site as advertising. If it is promoted correctly i'll come.

I couldn't find my soap box, So i'll just stand on my bag!

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