Curious
Years ago

Locked: Southern Walkout?

Heard a rumour that the Southern Under 14 Girls walked out in the final quarter against the Woodville girls. Is there any truth to this rumour and if so why did they?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I believe so, from what I got told(so there is every chance that it could be wrong) pretty full on game, alot of fouls, one girl got hit & southern not happy. Probably more to the story but that's the general jist of what I got told.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

this is true apparently because of the referees. and also on sunday night a guy from nunawading went off at the refs because his daughter ran into a girls elbow and cut her lip he was an absolute ******* idiot

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Indiana  
Years ago

This team has had an unbelievable year!!!
Jason Balfour sacked as coach

South pinching players by paying fees

and now a walk off!

Not exactly a what parents had in mind back in October

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Smith  
Years ago

Indiana

Life is full of uncertainties!

I am sure it will make them a stronger playing group.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

When in doubt...WALK OUT!

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easter bunny  
Years ago

there is several key comments here

at div 1 level there should never be a walk out

the refs need to manage the game - however they can not stop a spit

everyone needs to find a common ground

i noticed the vic refs let a lot more physicality go - and noticed a lot of kids really throwing themselves in a lot more than normal - to counter the vic playing style

it is all about the right people being in the right spots

a div 1 coach walking out is very very bad for the club and players - there should be certain key checks in place before it got to that level

if the players are getting uneccisarilary injured it is of concern and the coach needs to protect his charges

however players will get injured - it is a fact of the game and unless it is deliberately reckless some games will be physical

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How can you comment on the circumstances easter bunny?
You dont know what went down!

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easter bunny  
Years ago

sounds like southern going down to me....

not good press...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I spoke to someone involved but I will not say who. Many different versions of the story were told but this is the truth. The southern coach apparently got angry with the umpires because the Wooville girls were bumping cutters in the key. The girls used their elbows (not on purpose of course) and it is understood that the umpires werent calling fouls. The Tigers thought that the coaches were favouring Woodville and thats why they walked out. After the game both coaches were talking about what had happened.

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easter bunny  
Years ago

don't get me wrong - it could have been neccessary - however walk outs at div 1 level are very few and far between

when i mean checks i am referring to points in teh match that should have been handled - by officials or coaches or even players - tyo get it back into perspective

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another one to add to the storied Southern incidents of the last couple of years.

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easter bunny  
Years ago

i would expect the cutter to be bumped - but not taken out

some teams have been told for years to hack and grab playing tops - we all know it and work with it and they get caught occasionally

an offical protest or a request to stop the game and an offical oversee would have been more in order

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Has it ever happened in SA before at a Div 1 level?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"bump cutters" - pretty standard stuff really.

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John Lawrence  
Years ago

actually, was there @ Port, and the foul count was supposedly 9-7 in the first period, then 9-8 in the second... so nobody can say there was nothing called!!! and later, a Southern parent was report by a neutral BSA offical for being verbally threatening to him in reference to the game. As far as I am concerned, referees never win... either they get hammered by one team, or they get hammered by the other, or get hammered by the spectators... why do the games??? the referees don't get paid enough to cop that kind of BS from anybody!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What was the score when they walked out?

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easter bunny  
Years ago

exactly john

if it was a government workplace they would be up on harrassment

REMEMBER BASA have policies in place to support people who are doing the right thing

evryone needs to take a step back and take a reality check

basketball sa heirachy wants to know whenever any out of line stuff happens so they can keep track and look for serial offenders

good to see the parent had their number taken

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easter bunny  
Years ago

if they had vic refs - i can understand some misunderstanding - there is a cultural difference what is fair game

a switched on coach would adjust to the reffing style - not just blame them

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John Lawrence  
Years ago

later in the afternoon, a young referee copped a verbal lashing from a Rockets coach during a game over a couple of 50/50 calls that didn't go his way... when he tried the same on me, being the 2nd referee involved in the same game, he was put very quickly in his place, but without having to use a Technical... even though he more than deserved it considering the language he was using. I am more than happy to listen to a coach when he/she is talking in a civilized manner, but when they want to play "bulldog", i put them down and back into their kennel with equal pleasure and energy. Most coaches / spectators must realize that they have no right to abuse the referees, and if they want to keep it up, then they should be removed from the coaching ranks or thrown out of the stadiums forever if they are a spectator.

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John Lawrence  
Years ago

referees try to do an honest game... if coaches don't like it... LEAVE THE SPORT!

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easter bunny  
Years ago

it will be interesting to see if those girls are lost to basketball in 12 - 24 months time

nobody wants that sort of thing happening

chill and enjoy

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easter bunny  
Years ago

exactly john - leave the reffing to the refs and coaching to the coaches and supporting to the supporters

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John Lawrence  
Years ago

problem with this coach, easter bunny, is that he is also a high level referee.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

(Mod: Comment removed.)

What a great example you set. Do as I say, not what I do.

You can't be a top level referee and abuse referees.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon (#78371)

Agreed, set an example

Refs do a worse job when they're abused, especially young ones, I think we've seen recently in this state games being delayed due to a lack of referees, and we still wonder why some people do not enjoy running up and down a court for one hour being verbally abused for a low wage?

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woftam  
Years ago

Stop blaming refs. Protect them

Walking off quite simply justifies why Southern is where they are at. It is about time the club looked at itself.

Southern and Woodville are loseres and quite frankly who really cares.

Thank god our kids do not play there. Good on Jason Balfour for leaving and going to a decent club.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

W...aste
O...f
F...ucking
T...ime
A...nd
M...oney

Thanks for the comment regarding Southern and Woodville above....atleast by the very use of ur name ( Woftam ) we know what u think of your club.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Was the walkout justified by the possible injury/safety to players?

It must have been out of control

A tribunal or explanation to Norwwod committee?

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John Lawrence  
Years ago

If the coach politely explained that he felt the situation was dangerous to his team to the Tournament official BEFORE walking the team off, then I wouldn't have a single problem with it. But he didn't, so as far as I'm concerned, it was nobody's fault except his.

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Indiana  
Years ago

If that is the case John , then some questions need to be asked?

Very unusual!

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tigers player  
Years ago

Mmmmmmmmmmm well i play for the under 14s div 1 team and think it was stupid on wat our coach did when he pulled da game off all because of dis i am thinking off moving clubs cause it is bullshit we could hav atleast finished the game.Tigers have all gone down hill since they sacked jason balfour he was a good coach.But i stil think our coach should'nt have pulled the game off that is just so stupid.Well anyway i probably wont be playing for tigers much longer.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

were you umpiring that game john?

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how dumb  
Years ago

surely referees should know that commenting publicly on games in any way contravenes their code of conduct.

you certainly don't see the top refs like Haines, Filmer, Wieland, McDonald, Clover justifying or commenting on games here.

They may occassionally clarify a rule - maybe some others should take a leaf out of their book.

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BMG  
Years ago

Gee, school holidays come around so quickly these days.

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Phizzer  
Years ago

Surely you can't accuse referees of contravening their code of conduct by posting on this website, especially when almost every coach, player and spectator has at one point "contravened the code of conduct", you read the offical codes? I'm pretty sure it says something about not ever questioning a referee?

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John Lawrence  
Years ago

Thanks, Phizzer... and no... I didn't referee the Woodville vs Southern Tigers game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tiger player

was the game rougher than normal?

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packyabanjo  
Years ago

Typical for a country team like Nourunga. Have shown a distinct lack off class over the last couple of years.

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how dumb  
Years ago

Phizzer

Yes, the referees should abstain from commenting.

the point I made, you do not see higher officials making comment.

Why, cause they uphold their code of conduct!

Maybe why they are at the top, and others are way behind.

and JUST because someone else does it does that make it right for the refs to do it.

open your mouth on here, where it remains to open view and put your name to it or something that makes you identifable and your words will come back to haunt you time and time and time again.

smart refs won't make a comment

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tigers player  
Years ago

well the game was rough but not as normal they were just physical like all teams the only reason he pulled the game because of the refs and in the thrid quater one of the woodville girls elbowed one of our girls in the nose twice and there was blood everywhere there was a trail form the court to the toilets.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What was the score when it stopped?

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tigers player  
Years ago

im sorry anonymous i dont no the score i didnt look i was just angry with the coach for pulling it off.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can I assume you were winning or not?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tigers player, did you consider raising this with your coach and sorting this out within the club confines before deciding to air your grievences on a public forum such as this.

What is it with the u/14 age group at this club ( both girls and boys ) It seems as if the parents and players are doing their absolute best to tarnish the name of this club...not doing a bad job of it either from what i understand.

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Indiana  
Years ago

Time for another meeting at Southern, they cant take a trick at the moment.

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Phizzer  
Years ago

How Dumb

That's my point, those refs you mentioned don't comment on here to follow the code of conduct, they don't comment because they have integrity, however, commenting is a form of communication and I think contructive communication from an intelligent referee is a valuable thing.

Also, how many incidents have been raised on here where those refs were directly attacked? And if so, I'm sure others would come to their defence without them needing to.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

so it was the coach that pulled the team, not the team spitting the dummy.

wonder what/if any repercustions will happen at southern to that coach.

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big but  
Years ago

problem with this coach, easter bunny, is that he is also a high level referee.



JOHN LAWRENCE, Why are you making comments like this on here? Referees should not be slandering other Referees on this website.
If you have a probelm please speak to the referee in charge or to Neil Poulton.........

Also I don't think you should be making comments about the coach being wrong when you were not involved in the game yourself and further to that you are a referee.

I am sure you would not like it if the coach wrote on here how bad your umpiring might have been???

why dont you shut up and retire from writing on this webiste.


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Anonymous  
Years ago

here comes the jerry springer show

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Indiana  
Years ago

Or the Bold and the Beautiful!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

These are the days of our lives.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

nah, definately the springer show.

we are the audience watching the poor white trash ( insert southern / centrals / woodville ) going at each other no holds barred

iiii saak
iiii saak
iiii saak

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Indiana  
Years ago

Time to lock this one up before tonights deluge.
More locked threads for southern than little basketballs.

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Phizzer  
Years ago

So we can assume that the "high level referee" coach from North Adelaide is who was named?

I do not think names should be mentioned on this thread, especially if they are being derogatory and inflammatory.

If you want to praise and commend, by all means, give us their name, but complaining about someone personally on a public forum is not on really. Especially as I doubt he's reading and following this, therefore not permitting to defend himself. Actually, probably wouldn't he care what a "ABA Championship starting Courtside Announcer" and an Anonymous (#78371) poster think anyway.

Isaac, any chance you could delete mention of this referee's name?

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Dr Damage  
Years ago

Agree his name should not appear ,Phizzer.
To much slanging for no good outcome.

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