under 18s cant get worse then last year can they??

all you need to do is look at sasi boys and most of them will be in it and they will do shit

Seriously, after the 20's last year did so well in Perth, surley there would be some interest in this year ?

What about 16's ? The all conquering group that won 14's with Scotty B two years ago would surley have some very good players who have come along in leaps and bounds.

The U20s Men of feb this year won the silver medal as they played well as a team and no real self centred egotists in it. Everyone got on very well all the time. Expect this years feb07 team to be likewise and with Hill as Coach, they will get drilled and should make medal rounds again!

That's more like it, you all need to take note of the last post and get positive with the team and coaches.

VC fan, every team has one or two individuals who is capable of taking the next step irrespective of where the team finishes in a Nationals or who its drilled by.
We appreciate you believe other teams may be superior in matches and that occurs for many reasons not the least, height across the court.
IMO SA basketball teams generally suffer little in comparison, in the skills department, to say, Vic teams but rarely do they have the height to match up well. Population remains the key ingredient to success with larger states like NSW and Vic, increasingly Qld having a wider base to choose from and from within that base they have taller players to select.
Interestingly, the gap between average size players is almost non existent with the only exceptions being ocassional individual brilliance.
Every state loses first pick athletes to mainstream sports but the smaller states do it much tougher than most.
Consequently, SA results continue to be quite outstanding all things considered. As basketball, hopefully, continues to attract more first choice athletes and grows with the help of Olympic medals and World titles, population size will cease to be the dominating factor in success.
An illustration of such is the much vaunted Australian cricket team that has only one Victorian in it and the best player is a Tasmanian. Unfortunately SA has no representative in the current team.
Several states are looking at Victoria's dominance over many years in all age groups as being a past tense statement which can only augur well for basketball.

VC fan, no joke, Coach Hill is damn good and the mens team has four days of hell coming. Will sort them out good and proper!

How many left in the men?
How many in the girls?

Big raps on SA Metro U16 boys for 2007. Got size and skill to challenge. Might be able to challenge for the gold!!

Thoughts??

U20 Men final selection this sunday after a four day camp

113251 ,

how do you think they will fare against the NSW teams and the Vics ? Also WA Metro teams are always around the mark Any knowledge on teams south ?

Can anyone tell me why the Vic dominance keeps getting bought up when in the past NSW, and WA keep getting under the radar when it comes to Nationals ?

I understand that the Vics have been prominant, however if you look at 20's 18's and even 16's this year,NSW is clearly the team that should be looked at closley for the next few years. WA in the men's 20's will be damn tough and of course the defending champs will be super tough.

The vic power teams are long gone, others are now the focus.

Vic are always the ones to beat.

113351,

The tide is changing my freind, beware the two blues !!!!!!

#113369

Sturt are playing at Nationals?

Thought they already did, just under the name of SA Metro!

113369,

If that is where the better players are from, ( fundamentally ) then why not pick them ?

Girls team has been anounced

Getting picked today. Will see if SASSI rules or the team gets picked on talent.

#735
You would have to expect that the majority of the team would come from SASI as that's where the identified talent is - what's your problem with that?

the team has been chosen

am i in?

yep

Boys team

Andrew Braham
Phil Brown
Jordan Dodman
Trent Fildes
Michael Florence
Sam Hemmings
Ben Howell
Chris Molitor
Shannon Seebohm
John Wernham

Girls Team

Abby Bishop
Cayal Francis
Kara Hargraves
Emma Langford
Lauren Mansfield
Nikki Martin
Jess McPhail
Mia Newley
Kimberly Olsen
Nicole Romeo

I think?

whats deal with fish making 20s state? hes good kid and all, and has some talent, but is he gona be able to hold his weight in nationals? hes not exactly strong... maybe he can just swing them sharp elbows around and cut a few kids... otherwise, the team for guys looks strong

The names Ben Howell and Andrew Braham don't ring any bells. Can someone tell us more about them (1st or 2nd years, which club, what position etc)

Braham could end up the best kid out of this team, he is one to watch!

Ben is from Norwood, a 1st year, just back from the SASI usa and france tour. With his eye in is a strong shooter & scorer.

Chief is a miss as well, havent gone with a lot of size on the bench, but safe to say its a solid team, they should do well

im surprised kargins didnt make the cut but harvey... hes not that good hes a point guard who doesnt pass!

Gav Kargans should have been in. Looked at his ABA stats and far better than all bar Trent. Side is still a good one and will do OK.

Both guys who missed have other interests of the girly kind.

sam want will you do with yourself now that you did not make state

sam who?

Great to see BSA has the teams congratulated & announced on their website already. NOT!

Maybe because there is a process which needs to be followed before there is an official annoucement to the general public. Not that people using hoops care about process

Where did you find these rosters? Are they the correct ones or are they coming from your imagination?

Are you serious that Sam Hemmings made the team ???

How strong is it then ?

you have to remember that lots don't even try out at U20s because of work & uni & its a bad time of the year as well because they don't know what they are doing when the team needs to be picked. There is a lot of good talent not in the team & sure its not the best players across that age group that have necessarily made the team but they are available at the time. Surprise though with so many bottom age kids hope they can hold there own. I know a few of them are not team players & not good defensive players as well. Finishing off will be a problem, but certainly if egos are enough to win then we should be in with a medal. good luck boys!

The best team available is the best team. Guys who don't trial because of excuses are best left out and only committed players taken. Your either chasing rainbows or a 'I coulda been' and the worlds full of them.
In most things in life, talent is not enough so who ever made the team has it all over those who sit back and criticise and say "I coulda".

I see that someone has mentioned Bishop in the girls team. I would not have thought that she is eligible for SA. Since she is over 18 and had residency in ACT for over 3 months the only option would be for her to play for ACT. I know if she was still at the AIS it goes of her parents residency but when she left that went out the window. Im sure other states would definitely fight her eligibility because with her and Francis they would be unstoppable.

Which state do you think would be their major opposition??

i think you'll find its not about making excuses but realistically there are a lot more things in life than making a state team. I i made a state team interstate & had to pull out last minute due to work that I could not reshedule)many players & parents put too much emphasis on 'making a team' its not all that its cracked up to be. sure its great playing at that intensity but every player should always play at their best if they really are serious anyway most juniors should find that intensity at senior level, which is available to all juniors if they are up there with it. i wish people would stop making comparisons all the time & let us enjoy the game at what ever level we are at.

115338,

I don't get this stuff, No one puts a gun at your head and says you have to try out for State !!!!!

Why the bitterness ?

wow i am very surprised at this team! you have a strong starting lineup then a very very weak bench! andrew should not be in the team let alone u20 div 1s, the man struggles to compete in u20s! im surprised florence and hemmings are in the team given their poor performances at u18 nationals. this team should do well if their starters play 48 minutes a game, good luck!

well, well, well...

a real good process with 12 days to Nationals....

"re: State Teams (#114332)
Maybe because there is a process which needs to be followed before there is an official annoucement to the general public. Not that people using hoops care about process
Anonymous, 11/01/07"

BSA process is poor as usual. No timely recognition of the Girls or Guys representing this State. VERY poor form!! NO teams going then??

How is that the State team have three Southern representatives but yet Southern have one of the worst under 20 division one teams??? Do they not play?? Heath Jury doesn't want to play? They think they are too good to play??? Any answers?

Some of there players may have missed games due to SASI tour, seniors, just not playing, etc.

Not that hard.

By your thinking Dodman shouldn't make the State team becasue Sturt finished 6th. Adn his 36ers team finished 11th.

I doubt State coaches even look at premiership tables over the summer season.

Are you sure you are on the right thread Panther? That was your first comment on the entire thread - I'm not sure why you think the other stuff was directed at you.

Hes talking to the post above his. Easy their tiger.... I mean panther

panther,

Nobody has said anything directed at you. What is your concern?

Or were you anon #119298.

Quote Panther "How is that the State team have three Southern representatives but yet Southern have one of the worst under 20 division one teams??? Do they not play?? Heath Jury doesn't want to play? They think they are too good to play??? Any answers?"

Does this statement not imply that you think that State teams should use team position as a tool for State team selection?

And if so, considering Sturts position on the table, does that not imply that Jordan Dodman should not make the team?

PS Nice backhanded attack on Southern. You are doing so well for yourself today Panther. Maybe you should talk to a/ members of your own committee about why you team isn't top. and b/ people who actually know somthing about State when complaining about your team not getting a position in a State team.

Panther,

Then why the need to ask the question if the answers were obvious?

Your questions are quite obviously headed at attacking players in the State team. And the logical reason for that is becasue your kids missed out!

I may be all of the above. But I am at least 'not from South.'

BOTH the Mens and Womens Teams deserve our full and total support.
That's all that matters now!!

Track their progress from here.....

http://nat6.basketball.net.au/FS_extra.asp?id=28398&OrgID=420

All three southern players are not up to standard. Only Phill could make a case for himself if he was not a hog.

#120098 southern not south

no just fouled out

The results seem to say that the best players available should have been picked and politics left out of it. Maybe then we will have a chance. GO SA.

By "best players available" I'm guessing you mean one or more of the Woodville Under 20 Boys? If not, would it be one or more of the Norwood Under 18 Boys from last year? Another predictable post bagging state selections in hindsight. Grow up!

Is that you, Woodville U20 Boys?

why isnt shannon playing? and why the hell did harri take his spot?