The wheel is slowly turning. The better players that played div1 are leaving or have left. Magic is a club that has done nothing for serious basketball, in fact as has been said they weakened teams. Stick to social ball as that is where they were good. District is for players who want to achieve at a high standard. District clubs also have lower grade that are for people that want to play but not the highest standard. You don't see district clubs poaching from magic. There are issues with magic that the community know about and the fact some magic people are either turning a blind eye or hoping things will die a natural death show magic is not a fit club for young players.

Magic should be social, nothing more or less and district should be for the district clubs only or else scrap district and lets all run around paying low fees and achieving nothing!

(Mod: Whoa there! No more of that!)

Both woodville and west have felt the loss of numbers from the magic debacle which was a short sighted BASA decision. In truth, BSA need to sort out zones and what constitutes a district club.

How about Adelaide Uni, UniSA Flinders Uni & Torrens Valley?

Think everyone is quick to jump on the new team in the competition and some people apear to be stale about it. If people were happy at their 'real' district clubs, then why would they go to Magic?
Give them a break, they have every right to be in the comp as much as the next team does.

Adelaide Uni, UniSA Flinders Uni & Torrens Valley are prople that want to play together and they were not poached from established district clubs. Stay social as that is where you belong magic.

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IMO no one should be in the district comp other than district clubs. Otherwise its the dog's breakfast it has now become.
Some consider div 3 and below a sub district comp but district must be preserved as the highest level comp or it will continue it s downward slide where the bigger clubs take anyone and run to Div 5 with parents coaching.
Many of the so district clubs have way to many kids and to call it district level is a joke. Having non district clubs like magic just continues to downgrade the comp.

Are you saying only member clubs should be playing? I don't play or have any affiliation with Magic, nor have I even played against them-I play Div 2 mens, they aren't in our comp, but why shouldnt they play? If they wanted to play for West or Woodville they would but they obviously don't so get over it already.

Fair question.
District clubs charge relatively high fees at junior level and they are far in excess of what you pay in a non district club. District comps are meant for district players and social comps for social players. When mixed, feelings run high on both sides. District clubs charge over $200 bucks each season to play and parents could ask why do I pay this when I can play district but pay social subs?
Further, the district comp is weakened by social admissions which pad out rather than extend the comp.
BASA was short sighted in allowing social clubs district status and if they, social teams remain in district, then district clubs would be within their rights to expect the social clubs to charge the equivalent fees as district clubs so that social sides don't get freebies which perpetuate their existence.
Having social sides inside district catchment areas also lessens the chance of attracting lower grade kids to district clubs where they get the chance to improve with better coaching and trainings with the higher grades.

The problem is that BASA agreed to let Magic in on the grounds that they wouldn't use players from other clubs to fill their teams.

But obviously Magic went outside of this and have not added anything to BSA, but rather have weakened already struggling clubs.

This only increaes the disparity between the higher and lower clubs which is bad for basketball.

For juniors BSA should run a Div 1/2/3 comeptition, with 8 teams in each garde. Clubs should be made to qualify for these grades with only district clubs eligible.

All other teams which don't qualify for these grades should play in a reigonal competition which magic and Torrens Valley can play in.

Where exactly is "Torrens Valley"? Is it an actual place?
Nothing against the club, just always think that whenever they are brought up......

Magic have had to start at the bottom and work their way up. They have had to end up either first or second for that season before allowed to go up to another division. If they wernt up to the competition they would still be playing div 4 or 5. I wish them well, stop complaining they are in the comp, and just deal with it.

Melvin, most are drips and belong in bottles tho!

The sooner that magic goes social the better. Someone should stop pretecting people and let the basketball community know what is really going on.

The reason why some people are leaving and some things if mentioned the post will be deleted. They are true though.

MAGIC: good or bad for district?

magic mushrooms are good anytime

Jacky you are missing the point. No one worries about magic being in the comp. What they don't like is how they went about it. Div1 players at under 20 level are a dying breed as girls, uni, work and other things start to take over. Magic took players from established district clubs and weakened the teams they took them from and did not make magic strong enough to make div1. Both lost out. The players that want serious ball are now leaving and magic goes down. The district clubs trained these guys to the standard they are and magic just seduced them away. Social competition can be as hard as district game so no one is saying they should not be there. It is not a case of snobbery as you put it, it is disappointment in losing players you have nurtured since juniors.

Do many think Div 3 and beyond is district?

BASA admitted them and BSA and BA are keeping them and you thought there would be progress. Only thing talking here is money.
Jacky, there are too many district clubs let alone having associated social clubs joining in district competition.
If a player wants to play district he or she needs to pay the fees and join a district club or BSA and BA need to scrap the district system and start again.
I cant see any other organization in the world allowing social teams to join its so called elite ranks and succeeding.
In cricket,Turf cricket is a sub district level and district cricket is the next level and feeding ground for shield and Australian honours. The two don't mix and pay very different fees to play and this is the structure of every sport save basketball in Adelaide where they encourage social teams into the district comp where existing district teams exist and therefore reduce the number of players available to those district clubs as too many noses are in the trough.
Until see a social club start up at Wayville or Pasadena and then be admitted into the district comp, nothing will be done to close this cheap way of playing district.

Jacky, again you have missed the point or have not read what has been said. These div1 players were seduced away and now are back at div1 clubs. Young people can easily be told the grass is greener or that this is their big chance to form a new powerhouse club. one player gets seduced and the players mates follow. They are being welcomed back at their original club or another district club, as it shouls be. Magic back to social.

Jacky the word seduced can be the one you are missing the point on.

i think "Seduced" was a rather funny word to use for the Magic teams. doesnt anyone wonder why the u20 boys were headed over there? promise of "private training sessions" maybe? But, hey when that disappeared they all went back to div 1 clubs...shit all to do with wanting to leave. i am sure most boys u20s would leave with the promise they were given.

Issac, why are you trying to stop people hearing the truth. Is it a court case is pending? No names are being mentioned so what is the problem with people knowing what has happened at magic.