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Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

I know very little about how professional sporting teams move from private ownership to community ownership however I wonder if this is a concept that should be discussed when contemplating the ownership model for the Adelaide 36ers.

Is it possible, practical, warranted?

I'm curious to understand the pros and cons of a community ownership model from people who have an understanding of its structures and processes and whether it should be an important and timely discussion among the basketball public of Adelaide.

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Anonymous
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08:14 5 Jan 13

Reply #396181

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

Way too late for that option. If it was looked at under the SoS structure initially then clearly they decided again that option. I would think that the structure should have been in place year ago. Not starting now. The possibility of not even having a suitable venue to pls in may be more serious.


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BJF
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09:14 5 Jan 13

Reply #396190

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

Never too late for anything, Hawks and Cairns have demonstrated it can be done, every AFL team is run that way. Why not run it as membership based instead of private ownership?


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Marcus Camby
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12:50 5 Jan 13

Reply #396231

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

Imagine if the Sixers members had an actual say in when the sack the coach.

Adelaide (AND ONLY ADELAIDE) would require weekly coaching contracts.

Sackable offences would include :

- You lose a game (no matter how bad your players play).
- You hire a redhead as an assistant who is shorter.
- You are not affable.
- You release an ineffective import.
- You hire another import and the visa has a slight delay.
- You don't break into tears when you lose a game.


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Manute Bol's Father
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14:11 5 Jan 13

Reply #396236

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

Haha cambo. funny post mate. Pretty sure not one of those single events in isolation is a stackable offense but when all of thm are true you'd probably have a case!


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HO
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15:08 5 Jan 13

Reply #396242

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

Bjf, afl clubs are not community owned. They might have members, and that membership might give them a vote, but that does not make them "owned" in the sense of a shareholding.


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Anonymous
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16:28 5 Jan 13

Reply #396263

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

The community model should have been done years ago. If the SoS looked into it then, then that's probably another mistake they have made.
The community involvement is something that has been a tool in the time of crisis for Cairns and Wollongong. The Sixers have missed that boat.
Maybe they should be concentrating on having a venue to play?


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Anonymous
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16:39 5 Jan 13

Reply #396268

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

The AFL model has allot of merrit and is closer to how the NBL teams used to operate when they were association based/controlled.
To be honest the NBL has really struggled under teams being privately owned.


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eli1
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11:49 6 Jan 13

Reply #396619

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

This was brought up in the 36 Forum a few years back. Wasnt viewed sustainable. Bum bow!

But agree its somewhat viable. 3000 members, who basically owned the club, as a shareholder majority but did not run the group. Still have your CEO, membership guru, media, communication and co.

Just owned by the public. Weren't the WCE originally set up like that years ago in WA?


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Anonymous
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12:02 6 Jan 13

Reply #396625

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

And when the club loses millions a year? NBL going to bail them out like the AFL does?

Making comparisions between the structure of AFL and NBL team is like comparing the NBL to the NBA.


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Anonymous
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15:32 7 Jan 13

Reply #397052

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

The clubs don't lose millions a year most on average loose about half a million.

3000 members become shareholders could bridge that gap


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Anonymous
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15:40 7 Jan 13

Reply #397054

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

$500K is a big loss by todays NBL standards.


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Anonymous
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16:14 7 Jan 13

Reply #397081

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

There are NBL clubs which have lost a lot more then $500k in a year, including ours.


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Anonymous
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16:40 7 Jan 13

Reply #397107

re: Community Ownership - Adelaide 36ers

Indeed, some do each year, but most each year dont.


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