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Anonymous
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Big Bash Vs NBL

Big Bash has come from nothing to being HUGE. 46,000 were at last night's big bash. Can't escape the promos and advertising on tv, newspapers, internet, social media etc. Whoever is running the ship of the Big Bash needs to be signed up for the NBL.

I know that cricket has always been a popular sport but a year or so a go the Big Bash league started off very quiet and a bit of a joke in the cricket world.

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Speed44
Last year
08:06 7 Jan 13

Reply #396846

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"Whoever is running the ship of the Big Bash needs to be signed up for the NBL." - Only if they bring Cricket Australia's budget with them.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:11 7 Jan 13

Reply #396847

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Well the budget/fans has definitely grown because the big bash of last year had nowhere near the hype that this year has.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:14 7 Jan 13

Reply #396849

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Attendances and ratings are actually down this year.

Running the Big Bash costs Cricket Australia over $3 million.

Give it another two-three years and the fad will be over.


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HO
Last year
08:17 7 Jan 13

Reply #396850

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#30443

Actually, the BBL started well in its first season, and actually exceeded expectations for crowds and tv audiences that it set itself.

I give it a life of 4-7 years btw in this format although I have seen the emergence of some tribalism this year.

I saw figures that said combined losses last season were $8m - with similar expectations this year. Both the Renegades and Thunder are supposedly struggling financially. A number of teams (Hobart is one) do not have a major sponsor. I would think a BBL franchise is much cheaper to operate than an A-league franchise

Certainly it has made more noise this year. You might recall however that CA has been heavily criticized by its states and others for not investing in promotion of its test series, and its focus on Big Bash.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:36 7 Jan 13

Reply #396855

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Thats surprising to me - thanks for the info. Must be losing money on all the advertising!


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paul
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08:44 7 Jan 13

Reply #396858

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It's cost v return. They pay for big name stars and play in expensive stadiums so you need very big sponsorship and crowd returns to cover it. Same with the A-League.

The NBL has taken a different approach, minimise losses and grow slowly. Which one is best only time will tell, but it could also be a case of horses for courses because basketball doesnt have the backers willing to take the risk on the other approach at the moment.


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HO
Last year
08:56 7 Jan 13

Reply #396861

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Paul is correct. Break even for many teams in their venues would be high. AFL teams that play at Etihad have break even crowd numbers of over 20,000 people and the BBL would be similar in some locations.


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HO
Last year
08:59 7 Jan 13

Reply #396862

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And, as much as I hate league average crowds as any really useful sort of measure, Aus Stadiums has average crowds for BBL at about 13800 - very similar to A-league this summer.


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Anonymous
Last year
09:12 7 Jan 13

Reply #396865

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You cant compare the two as one offers a game that while considered short by cricket standards offer hours of playing spectacle and entertainment adding up to a decent night out where basketball offers mini league game time and a 'where to we go to now' entree to an evening.


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Speed44
Last year
10:16 7 Jan 13

Reply #396890

re: Big Bash Vs NBL

20/20 is too long for me, I say bring on 5/5 ;)


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Anonymous
Last year
10:37 7 Jan 13

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CRICKET Australia chief executive James Sutherland claims it is a "silly argument" to suggest the Big Bash is draining the game despite losing $10 million a year.

Sutherland told News Ltd that the Big Bash would make a significant profit when it is sold as part of a new television rights deal at the end of this season.

"We're not concerned about the numbers," Sutherland said. “We’re confident with the numbers we’ll take to the market if we don’t do a deal with Channel Nine before then.”

He refused to discuss figures but analysts believe the Big Bash is worth $10s of millions as part of an expected $500 million, five-year deal.

This is despite crowds and ratings being significantly down for the second year of the revamped eight-team Big Bash.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/cricket/james-sutherland-says-the-big-bash-league-is-not-draining-cricket-australia-of-funds/story-e6frepmo-1226545376783




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NBL Fan
Last year
10:45 7 Jan 13

Reply #396910

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Only one team in the Big Bash made money last year and most teams this year are expected to lose $500,000.


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Jake
Last year
11:03 7 Jan 13

Reply #396918

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The Big Bash and international 20/20 will end the 50 over game eventually.


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Hawkeye
Last year
08:16 8 Jan 13

Reply #397288

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BB will soak up any potential new ponsors the NBL could have.


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VP
Last year
08:49 10 Jan 13

Reply #397873

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No Contest - the BBL has already drowned out the NBL in terms of media coverage and spectators and promotion and entertainment and sponsorship.

The BBL Season is short and games are on just about every night somewhere around the country and televised on foxtel. Games are even replayed throughout the day on the Foxtel cricket channel.

The BBL games are exciting & unpredictable & entertaining.

Theres no guarantee the NBL will still be here in 3-4 years but CA has the financial backing to keep the BBL going for at least 5-10 years.


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Bear
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13:48 10 Jan 13

Reply #397923

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Good god, who cares about a bunch of has beens and players just looking for the dollar, trying to hit a ball out of a stadium for a couple of hours?

I don't even know who or what these BB teams represent, so for me if the NBL is going to regain some ground it needs to do something the BB can't...

Keep working towards connecting with the ground roots supporter, the family and the kids!

Yes, cricket gets more than their fair share of promotion, while basketball seems to be less media friendly, for whatever reason, but I agree that basketball will still be there in years to come, not sure about the bash......??


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