VTB also rep league.

Maric plays in VTB for Lokomotiv Kuban and Matt Neilsen plays for BC Khimki.

ACB is considered stronger and has higher attendances etc.

A few lower ranked Russian teams are in the VTB league which lower the standard a little.

Should be noted games in the VTB league between Russian teams count towards the Russian domestic championship also.

The two leagues are getting closer in standard and should be considered pretty even. The Russian teams are fine and every bit as good as the Spanish teams, but there are a few weaker VTB teams from Poland, Belarus, Ukraine and Estonia.

That prob gives the ACB a slight edge but apart from those few clubs the leagues are very similar in standard with the VTB probably being a little bit more physical and fast-paced.

United League is much better. BTW, the league's name is actually United League. VTB is the league's sponsor.

Eurocup is better than both of them this year though.

http://www.vtb-league.com/en/news/vtb-united-league-and-euroleague--partners-not-rivals.htm

President of the VTB United League Sergey Ivanov took part in the press-conference. Also there were several partners and sponsors. A new championship trophy was presented at the event. An exclusive cup that is a unique one was introduced by Mr. Ivanov himself. After that league's President spoke about the new season and answered several questions for press.

- There are 8 national competitions winners and seven Euroleague participants among the teams representing the United VTB League, - said Sergey Ivanov. - Our League's level is higher than any national championship can be. One more positive thing is our insurance system that is the best one in Europe even compared to the one that Euroleague has. Besides the League pays for the refereeing, too. So that teams don't need to spend their budget on that. Of course one of the main things is that the United VTB champion will also be provided by the opportunity to play in Euroleague qualifiers of the season-2013/14.

Well, the VTB league said it's better than any national league! Must be true.

The parity of the ACB with just as many top Euro teams suggests otherwise. ACB teams are also 41-17 in Euroleague (71%) and 18-12 in Eurocup (60%), while VTB teams are 35-23 (60%) and 44-29 (60%).

The VTB are closing the gap though and will continue to do so as Spain struggles financially.

You are seriously overrating the ACB. The last 8 or so clubs in ACB are absolute trash.

Kuban are 9-4 in the VTB, third in their conference and against teams outside of the top two - CSKA Moscow and Zalgiris Kaunas - they are 9-1 with an average winning margin of 13.

Sevilla are "absolute trash", sitting 15th in the ACB at 7-13. Yet when the two met in the Eurocup, Kuban won by 7 and 11.

The two comps are pretty even, they are 11-10 in meetings this year in VTB's favour, but the bottom end of the VTB is weak whereas no ACB team gets thrashed week after week.

I watch ACB. It's nowhere close to the VTB league. There has not been an upset in the Spanish cup or playoffs in years and years.

None of the bottom half teams are at the level of VTB clubs.

The bottom half of Greek league is stronger than the bottom half of ACB.

The numbers dont back up your story. There's lots of ways of looking at it, but let's look at the performance of the bottom two against the top four in each comp:

ACB:
Gipuzkoa = 1-3 against the top four, average difference 8.5 points

Manresa = 0-4 and average difference of 9 points

Greece:
Panelefsiniakos = 0-4 with ave diff of 15

Kavala = 0-4 with ave diff of 25

VTB:
Minsk = 0-5 with ave diff of 24

Mariupol = 0-4 with ave diff of 15

There's lots of other ways of measuring it, but whichever way you do the ACB has as good a top end talent as any comp outside the NBA and Euroleague, and their bottom teams are the most competitive against those gun teams.

People that compare games in different leagues obviously know nothing about European basketball. I hate to burst your bubble, but teams have DIFFERENT CRITERIAS when they are playing in Euroleague or Eurocup.

This is like amateur hour here.