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Isaac
Two months ago

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Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Courtesy of the Hoops poster suggesting he was a bust after one summer league game, Ball has since had a triple double and now a 36 point game. With 8 boards and 11 assists as well. Oh, and 5 steals.

Then check out these passes. Impressive stuff.



Bolden got the start for the opposing 76ers and had 5/7/4/4/2.

Ball's game highlights:

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Anonymous
Two months ago
15:16 13 Jul 17

Reply #639677

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

In fairness to the other thread the title was "Lonzo Ball A Bust?" not "Lonzo Ball A Bust!"

It was merely a question.


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smartarse
Two months ago
15:19 13 Jul 17

Reply #639681

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

proof that the old cliché "there's no such thing as a stupid question" is bollocks.
hell of a stat line today.


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Sen dog
Two months ago
15:24 13 Jul 17

Reply #639688

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

That poster an imbecile?

It's merely a question


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Let's B Real
Two months ago
15:26 13 Jul 17

Reply #639689

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Since he switched to the Nike Kobe's his numbers have skyrocketed.
Big Baller Brand Shoes A Bust?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
15:27 13 Jul 17

Reply #639691

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Did he really change shoes? haha interesting... #bigballerfail


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Yinka Dare
Two months ago
15:28 13 Jul 17

Reply #639692

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

He still scared of de Aaron fox though.

Playing summer league means not much. As the #2 pick he is expected to dominate this type of talent.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
15:30 13 Jul 17

Reply #639694

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Shades of grey people.

After the first game people are asking if he is a bust.

Now we have the exact opposite contrast after this game people are saying the people asking if he was a bust were imbeciles. Puzzling.

No individual Summer League game makes or breaks the career of a top two pick.


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PlaymakerMo
Two months ago
15:31 13 Jul 17

Reply #639695

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

6 turnovers too.


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Yinka Dare
Two months ago
15:34 13 Jul 17

Reply #639699

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

No Faultz or Simmons for 76ers lol.

No ingram for lakers.

Even an nbl import dominated summer league today.

Like an nbl player scoring 30 in the bigV really.


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Sen doggy
Two months ago
15:39 13 Jul 17

Reply #639706

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Yinka Dare you imbecile.


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Sen dogg
Two months ago
15:40 13 Jul 17

Reply #639708

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

LEAVE LONZO ALONE!!!!11

(in leave Britney alone voice)


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SteveK2
Two months ago
15:42 13 Jul 17

Reply #639710

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

^^ Hahaha good one Sen dogg!


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Yinka Dare
Two months ago
16:52 13 Jul 17

Reply #639726

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Sen dog is lavar?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
16:54 13 Jul 17

Reply #639728

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

That would explain a lot.


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AngusH
Two months ago
17:01 13 Jul 17

Reply #639730

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cartemi01/gamelog/2014/

^ some amazing statlines in that link. Against NBA players, too.

3/10 from 3pt land is an improvement, but over 3 games his % is still dire. We'll see. That shot is going to play a big part in determining what kind of player he'll be.


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Duke Fan
Two months ago
17:39 13 Jul 17

Reply #639735

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

It's his vision that gets people excited. Bigs that run the floor are going to love playing with him


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:20 13 Jul 17

Reply #639746

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Can we please change the title to this thread to something which better reflects the discussion:

"LB - the next MJ"


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Yinka Dare
Two months ago
21:26 13 Jul 17

Reply #639768

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Still not sold on the shooting style against longer and more athletic NBA players


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twenty four
Two months ago
23:30 13 Jul 17

Reply #639782

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

LaVar would've had 72/16/22.


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XY
Two months ago
09:11 14 Jul 17

Reply #639792

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

The passing is great, but that shooting action is ugly and only time will tell if it is effective.

I also think once he gets scouted a bit by NBA teams the dinky little scoop layups are going to get returned to him with interest. Maybe not, but I don't think he gets as much room to move among the big boys.


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Isaac
Two months ago
12:29 14 Jul 17

Reply #639804

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

What's his most likely player comparison? I assumed Jason Kidd, but these Summer League highlights are all I've seen. Kidd's shooting improved a bit during his career, didn't it?


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AngusH
Two months ago
12:52 14 Jul 17

Reply #639806

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

I think his basement is MCW if he can't develop an NBA shot - he does a lot of things pretty well. His ceiling... well... if he can stop guys sagging off him and going under screens to take away his passing lanes by knocking down the 3, his ceiling is pretty darn high.

I still think he's more of a trick passer than a Jason Kidd as far as being a floor general goes... Seems to prefer the tricky pass than the right basketball play (ie. shot) when going to the basket, which is almost Rondo-esque at times.

I would've drafted Fox over him on draft night, but Fox is much more of a boom/bust type of player IMO. Fox's shot motion is definitely easier to fix, at least... and he's closer to the other elite PGs that have come into the league over the past half-decade or so in size/athleticism. Ball is pretty unique, which might be a good thing. We'll see.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
16:38 14 Jul 17

Reply #639830

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Fox has a great inside game, but his shooting is also very suspect. Could be an easy player to stop by good NBA defences.

Dennis Smith is my pick for ROY based on what Ive seen from college and Summer League. I like Tatum too but Boston got so my depth at that position.


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Isaac
Two months ago
16:58 14 Jul 17

Reply #639834

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Another TD from Ball today. 16/10/12 with 5 steals. 7 turnovers but he might be pushing some adventurous passes to wow crowds while he's playing SL level.

Simmons plus this draft class is going to make for a very competitive ROTY in 2017/18.


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SteveK2
Two months ago
21:04 14 Jul 17

Reply #639852

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Quite a few 'strong' discussions out there on Lonzo's SL performances. Whether he can translate his SL performance to regular season vs. real NBA players, well I'm looking forward to finding that out. More Jason Kidd than anyone else at this stage.


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Mock
Two months ago
21:13 14 Jul 17

Reply #639853

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Jason Kidd DOMINATED for years. Great player. Zo will be great too. My boy Dennis Smith looked superb at summer league


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Anonymous
Two months ago
22:07 14 Jul 17

Reply #639855

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

He's lucky he's with the Lakers and that it's this year not a few years ago. Walton is probably the most easy-going coach in terms of allowing him to play his game even if it means a few passes end up in the stands.

Kidd's shot improved significantly over the course of his career. Whether Ball's does will determine whether he's Rubio 2.0 or something more.


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Mock
Two months ago
23:10 14 Jul 17

Reply #639859

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Bamm Adebayo can play. If you bring weak stuff into the lane when Bam is there its' going to end up TEN rows back


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Yinka Dare
Two months ago
23:28 14 Jul 17

Reply #639860

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Bam! Get that outta here


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Anonymous
Two months ago
00:45 15 Jul 17

Reply #639864

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

Wow Mock is such an expert on the rookies NOT.


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Sen dog
Two months ago
10:35 15 Jul 17

Reply #639873

re: Lonzo Ball with 36/8/11

I have imitators? They ain't shit compared to the real Sen dog


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