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U19 Womens world cup

Only 5 or so days until womens u19 World Cup.

What are our chances of bringing home a medal again?

GEMS Team
5'3 A.Cubillo 99
5'5 M.Conti 99
5'6 M.Rocci 98
5'9 J.Shelley 00
6'0 K.Rowe 99
6'1 S.Simons 00
6'1 C.Bibby 98
6'2 A.Maley 98
6'3 R.Pizzey 99
6'3 Z.Aoksuo 98
6'4 E.Magbegor 99
6'4 L.Mcspadden 99

Some of the high calibre teams and best players.
USA-Hebard, Holmes, Dangerfield etc
Russia-Vadeeva, Musina, Kurilchuk etc
Spain-Ayuso, Ginzo, Diallo etc
France-Chatereau, Tabdi, Sissoko
Italy-Andre, Cubaj, Pinzan
Canada-Amihere, Jerome, Brown
China-Wang, Han, Li

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Anonymous
Last week
09:10 16 Jul 17

Reply #639915

re: U19 Womens world cup

Have the best pool draw imaginable so should easily top it. Beat China overnight in the warm up tournament.

Outside chance at bronze maybe.


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Anonymous
Last week
18:05 16 Jul 17

Reply #639941

re: U19 Womens world cup

USA, Russia look to be the biggest problems.

I'd say we are on par with Spain and France.

Canada and Italy are a small step behind.


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Anonymous
Last week
19:08 16 Jul 17

Reply #639944

re: U19 Womens world cup

Are we able to find live stats or reports of any of the warm up games?


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Anonymous
Last week
20:22 16 Jul 17

Reply #639948

re: U19 Womens world cup

Only for the other game Canada vs France


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Anonymous
Last week
00:57 17 Jul 17

Reply #639961

re: U19 Womens world cup

Exhibition tournament so far

Australia beat China 64-51
Australia beat Canada 69-56


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Anonymous
Last week
01:27 17 Jul 17

Reply #639962

re: U19 Womens world cup

http://www.basketball.ca/files/2017-07/boxscore2.jpg


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Anonymous
Last week
02:44 17 Jul 17

Reply #639963

re: U19 Womens world cup

Point guards didn't do so well it looks like.

Magbegor looks to be the standout once again.


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Anonymous
Last week
19:15 17 Jul 17

Reply #640035

re: U19 Womens world cup

Hungary who is in our group will have a much better squad than the qualifying team who finished 5th at euros last year.

Much tougher opponent than Mexico or Japan.


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Anonymous
Last week
22:43 17 Jul 17

Reply #640053

re: U19 Womens world cup

Bibby shooting at 70% , I rebound less than Magbegor, less minutes too was more of a standout


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Anonymous
Last week
22:50 17 Jul 17

Reply #640054

re: U19 Womens world cup

47 mins between Cubillo, Conti and Rocci and only 6 points, 4 asts, 3 rbds.


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Anonymous
Last week
23:49 17 Jul 17

Reply #640058

re: U19 Womens world cup

Pity we had a couple of injuries and an omission.
Also would have had a different pg in that group.

Anyone know who was in the starting 5?


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Melb Fan
Last week
09:20 18 Jul 17

Reply #640070

re: U19 Womens world cup

Going by the stats sheet, the 5 was Rocci-Shelley-Maley-Bibby-Magbegor.

It'll definitely be interesting to see where they end up finishing in the world cup given the hype around some of these players and the Horvat situation.


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Anonymous
Last week
12:26 18 Jul 17

Reply #640088

re: U19 Womens world cup

Still can't believe Horvat is not there.
Also thought 1 of tessari or elsworthy would be a better fit at pg.

Not sold on Cubillo or Rocci as pgs.


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Anonymous
Last week
22:12 18 Jul 17

Reply #640163

re: U19 Womens world cup

Let's just wish them luck and support them. Look forward to seeing how they go.


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Anonymous
Last week
22:34 18 Jul 17

Reply #640165

re: U19 Womens world cup

Done well so far in the pre tournament.


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Anonymous
Last week
15:40 19 Jul 17

Reply #640216

re: U19 Womens world cup

http://www.fiba.com/world/u19women/2017/Australia#|tab=roster


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Anonymous
Last week
19:30 19 Jul 17

Reply #640257

re: U19 Womens world cup

USA, Spain, Russia look to be a step above us and we just lost to France in a warm up tournament.


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Anonymous
Last week
09:57 20 Jul 17

Reply #640300

re: U19 Womens world cup

About right with this squad


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Anonymous
Last week
22:23 20 Jul 17

Reply #640356

re: U19 Womens world cup

When are they going to start picking the best side available in these major tournaments?

Boomers, Opals, Gems, Emus and Crocs.

The only side that hasn't had many people question the roster is the sapphires.
And they won gold...
Not just the players but the coaching staff also is sometimes mind boggling.

Anyone else see this as an ongoing problem?


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Anonymous
Last week
00:38 21 Jul 17

Reply #640361

re: U19 Womens world cup

BA blow


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Anonymous
Last week
22:54 22 Jul 17

Reply #640528

re: U19 Womens world cup

Australia lose first game to Japan 61-66.

Clearly missing a coach and a few players.


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Anonymous
Last week
23:27 22 Jul 17

Reply #640531

re: U19 Womens world cup

Number one player missing is Chantel Horvat !!

Shooting percentage wasnt that good
But this team should finished second now in there pool and just have a harder crossover.


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Anonymous
Last week
23:42 22 Jul 17

Reply #640532

re: U19 Womens world cup

Shoulda been..
Veal-HC (been with 80% of the team for months and months)

Conti pg
Tessari pg
Rocci cg
Shelley cg
Simons sg/sf
Rowe sf
Horvat sf (starting)
Bibby pf (not sf)
Maley pf (not sf)
Aokuso pf/c
Magbegor c
Mcspadden c

Would have been chosen but N/A
(Simmons)
(Cochrane)


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Luuuc
Earlier this week
00:44 23 Jul 17

Reply #640535

re: U19 Womens world cup

Not a great start. Japan defeat the Gems 66-61
Boxscore


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
00:56 23 Jul 17

Reply #640536

re: U19 Womens world cup

All the guards were terrible. Give credit to the Japanese defense.

This is probably what will happen to the opals in the Asia cup.


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Anon
Earlier this week
01:25 23 Jul 17

Reply #640538

re: U19 Womens world cup

^ agree guards are a weak spot , but their best 3pt shooter (Shelley) sat for most of that game, and they shot 1/20 from the 3pt spot
Maley gets in the way of the bigger players rebounding, does the same at Dande, which is costly , looks good on her stat line but costly , and far too many poor judgement passes.
And a few very questionable calls towards then end of that game putting Japan at the line
How do you put a head coach in who barely wins at BigV level, Veal would have been a much smarter choice to replace Gorris.

Horvat would have been a good addition that's for sure

Be interesting to see how they go in the next game, hopefully some adjustments can be made


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
02:59 23 Jul 17

Reply #640539

re: U19 Womens world cup

I'm not sure we will beat Hungary...


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True
Earlier this week
04:15 23 Jul 17

Reply #640540

re: U19 Womens world cup

Two coaches who disempower players, going to be tough.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
04:35 23 Jul 17

Reply #640541

re: U19 Womens world cup

Did goriss or veal suggest butler or is this a choice made by BA?

This team who plays together for years and trains full time could finish out of the top 8, maybe even top 10 in the tournament.


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True
Earlier this week
09:12 23 Jul 17

Reply #640545

re: U19 Womens world cup

I watched the game with the momentum going our way then a player makes a mistake and is taken off. Momentum lost.
Maybe coaches should be taken off. It happened too many times!!


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Anon
Earlier this week
09:23 23 Jul 17

Reply #640547

re: U19 Womens world cup

^ yes watched also the replay, coaching choices need to be questioned, with both Butker and McAughtry, neither are national standard coaches, let alone international, those constant changes never allowed the players to get into any rhythm.

Doesn't Jan Sterling pick the coaches?


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
09:52 23 Jul 17

Reply #640548

re: U19 Womens world cup

Other teams that I thought would be walkovers were quite good.
It's becoming a much more even competition.

And it won't be an easy worlds qualification at junior level with Japan, china, nz and Korea at asias. Plus all the middle eastern countries the males have to face now.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
09:59 23 Jul 17

Reply #640549

re: U19 Womens world cup

We will beat Mexico. Hungary maybe not...


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
10:08 23 Jul 17

Reply #640550

re: U19 Womens world cup

You could tell the players had little connection with the coaching staff.
Looked exhausted too.. not all players were in shape.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
10:22 23 Jul 17

Reply #640551

re: U19 Womens world cup

And some parent was telling anyone that would listen that this was best group of under 19 girls ever. Lol just a bit ahead of yourself mate


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True
Earlier this week
10:30 23 Jul 17

Reply #640552

re: U19 Womens world cup

The players are definitely good players but the coaches don't know them, and it's too late to learn now.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
10:35 23 Jul 17

Reply #640553

re: U19 Womens world cup

How did the point guards preform


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
10:40 23 Jul 17

Reply #640554

re: U19 Womens world cup

Terrible. Couldn't penetrate, couldn't shoot.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
10:46 23 Jul 17

Reply #640555

re: U19 Womens world cup

Conti 0pts 0/6 1rbd 2ast 0stl 19 mins
Cubillo 1pt 0/5 1rbd 3ast 1stl 16 mins
Rocci 6pts 3/8 4rbd 1ast 1stl 23 mins
Shelley 2pts 1/3 0 rbd 2ast 0stl 11 mins


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
10:49 23 Jul 17

Reply #640556

re: U19 Womens world cup

3 best performers were

Magbegor 21 pts 5 rbds 2asts 3blks
Bibby 10 pts 7rbds 1ast
Maley 4 pts 13 rbds 3asts


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
10:50 23 Jul 17

Reply #640557

re: U19 Womens world cup

Odd that they chose Rocci as captain. Thought it would be Bibby amongst that group.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
10:55 23 Jul 17

Reply #640558

re: U19 Womens world cup

Let this be a lesson for future teams Aus teams qualifying through Asia, you need perimeter pressure don't just bulk up your front court and expect to win!


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Anon
Earlier this week
10:58 23 Jul 17

Reply #640560

re: U19 Womens world cup

not quite sure what the see in Rocci she never looks to be a leader on court, makes too many mistakes


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True
Earlier this week
11:40 23 Jul 17

Reply #640562

re: U19 Womens world cup

Jaz can shoot, and she has great crt vision, the guards did make some ordinary decisions.


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True
Earlier this week
12:23 23 Jul 17

Reply #640563

re: U19 Womens world cup

Jaz can shoot, and she has great crt vision, the guards did make some ordinary decisions.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
12:25 23 Jul 17

Reply #640564

re: U19 Womens world cup

Rebounding doesn't appear to be a problem so hopefully they 'rebound' in the next game.

And without singling out any particular player, something that I can't quite get my head around is how we're developing guards at this level who still can't dribble with their non-dominant hand. It can really limit the offence, and makes it too predictable for defenders, when players are unable to break through any sort of defensive pressure on the perimeter.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
12:45 23 Jul 17

Reply #640567

re: U19 Womens world cup

I was going to say the same thing.
We are so far behind other nations in our ball handling..

What do they do at the Coe?
I've noticed that alot of the kids training with Trevor in Victoria are getting good results.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
12:49 23 Jul 17

Reply #640568

re: U19 Womens world cup

Hopefully when they pick the Asian u16 squads over the next 2 months that theyll remember to go with players with foot speed and endurance to combat those quick Japanese, Chinese and Koreans


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
13:46 23 Jul 17

Reply #640570

re: U19 Womens world cup

And some shooters would be good


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Beach
Earlier this week
14:40 23 Jul 17

Reply #640575

re: U19 Womens world cup

Why isnt Seebohm coaching these girls? I am genuinely interested why, and surprised he isnt. He did such a great job with the under 17's who won the world championships. I would have thought he would have been given the opportunity to go for the double championships with these girls at the under 19's level.


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Anonymous
Earlier this week
15:24 23 Jul 17

Reply #640579

re: U19 Womens world cup

That's right..
The coach should follow them up through the age groups like they do in some euro nations.


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Alpha
Earlier this week
15:32 23 Jul 17

Reply #640583

re: U19 Womens world cup

"alot of the kids training with Trevor in Victoria are getting good results."

Same ones that got beat by 40 in the SF at the nationals???

There are better kids not picked in any state at this level. Yeager for example is better ball handler and shooter than any of these guards, not sure why she was left behind.

Ezi was the only one looking really comfortable, hopefully others will rebound quickly.


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Anon
Earlier this week
16:45 23 Jul 17

Reply #640596

re: U19 Womens world cup

Gorris is the one who's had this group for longer, his opals commitment, though looks like he's been relegated to water boy , put him out of this team, though I think if the opals head coach made herself unavailable, his commitment to the un19s program should have remained for worlds


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Luuuc
Yesterday
21:33 25 Jul 17

Reply #640898

re: U19 Womens world cup

Gems-Hungary has just tipped off

YouTube Livestream


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Anonymous
Yesterday
22:29 25 Jul 17

Reply #640908

re: U19 Womens world cup

Watching the live stream I can't tell who is more divided: the coaches, the players or the supporters.

These Gems aren't Sapphires.


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Anonymous
Yesterday
22:52 25 Jul 17

Reply #640915

re: U19 Womens world cup

The funky Italian music playing during the 3QT was legit.


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Anonymous
Yesterday
22:53 25 Jul 17

Reply #640916

re: U19 Womens world cup

3QT break*


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Anonymous
A few hours ago
04:40 26 Jul 17

Reply #640936

re: U19 Womens world cup

The road to glory
R16-Latvia
1/4-Russia
1/2-Canada or China
Final-USA


If we had finished top of the group
R16-Korea
1/4-Spain
1/2-USA
Final-Russia


I say we beat Latvia if we shut down strautmane, but I think it's a hard task beating the starting 5 of Russia.
5'7 Zaviolova, 5'11 Kurilchuk, 6'2 Cheren, 6'4 Musina, 6'4 Vadeeva.

Likely fighting for 5-8 spot.
If we had topped group, we'd probably be playing for bronze.


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