Who knows what is happening with this Div- apparently after the full 15 rounds the div will be split again into 3 and 4 (as in Summer season) and the last rounds get played. This has been an utter mess from the start and has seemed to be put in the too hard and who cares basket IMO. The girls have had their programme given in drips and I'm sure they are not really being considered as important. The bye/loss points is silly I agree and if your team is disadvantaged it isnt fair. But they seem to be in a box where no-one wants to take resposibility. Will have to see what pans out Odin, and yea I care.

Yes I agree Anonymous about the teams pulling out etc but it gets to be pretty clear without playing the 15 rounds who should be in 3 or 4. Summer should have given a picture but I understand 1 team requested to go up from 4 to 3 and then the fun started. I know everyone has had dribs and drabs rosters and I wouldnt envy the guys doing them either. Just hard when it seems your childs division is bottom of the heap!

anon #83575 define fairly

If there is 3 points difference in the split line either the top 5 or even the 3/4 split and any of the teams had a bye, and got no points for that round how is it fair?

Fair is when everyone plays on a level field, not when the fixture discriminates against you by reducing the games you play and therefore the points you are capable of earning.
I've seen comps where a bye is awarded 2 points, neither a win or a loss. this would be fairer than zero which is no points less than a loss, the same penalty as a forefit. punishment for being the wrong place in the fixture !.
Or award everyone who plays the new team the same points they would get if it was still a bye zero.. win or loose they get zero, same as the first 6 teams got that would be fair

This Fair .. I dont think so.

On the other side lets see where the chips land, maybe none of the teams will be in a position to protest If they are I think it would be a valid protest.

P.S. this is no bye in div 3 now , sporting pulse still lists one of woodvilles original teams.. there are now 16 teams in div 3 (check the results page) there used to be 15. hence teams who had a bye no longer have one.
div 2 now gets a bye, and may have the same complaint as div 3, unless all the div 2 games this team competed in are now being converted into byes.
(repeated in magic 16.3 thread)

A2

CRITERIA FOR PREMIERSHIP POINTS WHERE THERE IS AN UNEVEN BYE SITUATION IN DIVISIONS




1.0 Placings on the Premiership Ladder during the season.

1.1 The positions on the ladder during the regular season shall be determined by the ratio of games won over games played.

1.2 Should two or more teams be tied with the same winning percentage during the regular season, they shall be ranked by the number produced by dividing total points scored against into total points scored for.

2.0 Final Placings at the End of the Season.

2.1 Positions on the ladder will be determined by the ratio of games won over games played.

2.2 Should two or more teams be tied on game winning percentage (2.1) at the conclusion of the regular season, final placings shall be determined by the win / loss ratio in only those games played between the tied teams.

Should there still remain a tie, rankings shall be determined by the difference between the total points scored for and against each team in only those games played between the tied teams.

If teams still remain tied, rankings shall be determined by the points for over the points against percentages for the entire season.

#83577 - It's a bit tough when you make the semis in the summer season & your reward is to be dropped to div 4 for winter!

Oracle,
Obviously thats not the method used on sporting pulse. also is that the method to be used to split the comp after round 15.

I can understand that teams dropping in out up and down makes it hard to maintain a draw.
But the sysyem quoted takes no account as to what the effect of the missing games has been.

If a new team enters and get beaten by everyone except those who already had a bye and dont play the ones who had the bye are at a disadvantage.
For example lets say team A had 5 games and lost 1 of them they get 4/5 = 80 %
Team b had a bye lost one game get 3/4 = 75% both teams lost only one game but team A is in Team B is out, because they had a bye. lets make it worse the game team A lost was agsinst team B, So why is this fair.
Alternateley if all of the games against the new team were taken as a bye result, the game that team A played against the new team would be discounted (now they only played 4 games) there percentage drops to 75% (3/4) head to head team B beat team A so team B would be in and team A out.

alternately Team A plays an extra game against the new team and both team A and B played the same number if team A beats the new team then they are also on 80 % as team B beat team A head to head team B are in and team A out.

All I'm saying is that comparing apples to oranges is a sure way to make lemons...