SD
Years ago

What should BSA be doing differently?

If you were in charge at BSA, what would you do differently?

As a parent of a Sturt U14 Boy, I get totally disillusioned with the in equality of the standard of the different teams.

We have to travel all over Adelaide, playing meaningless games, which I am sure both teams do not enjoy.

Most games are well and truly decided by half time.

By son, who is basketball mad, has indicated that he now would like to play soccer. I know a few other boys from Sturt who are interested in persuing other sports (and successfully).

I do think that it is sad, that a sport loses promising young players because the competition is too long (summer & winter) and you play the same (mostly weak) teams week in and week out.

BSA needs to provide a more challenging system whereby teams are evanly balanced.
We as parents are tired of paying (too much) to see our boys in one sided games.

That is my gripe, what is yours....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yawn - another Sturt parent who thinks they know everything....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think we should remove Sturt, and then the rest of the comp would be evenly balanced!!!

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olskoolgamer  
Years ago

Ease up on him with the replies, it was constructive criticism.

With the all year round thing, I think a lot of it comes down to the stadiums need to have people playing in them all year round for them to be profitable. That's why some of the best courts in Adelaide have social ball on them all the time, cause it makes the most money.

As for the locations of the games, many other sports are the same. Ever played a game of footy out at "Lizbeth"?? Not great, but heaps of kids still play footy. I think this one comes down to commitment to bball.

And almost ANY junior sport will have some kind of unbalanced competition. Its unavoidable.

It sounds like your kid doesn't really want to play bball all that much. He will have to tavel and play crap games in soccer, too.

The grass is always greener...

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mambo  
Years ago

Solutions simple.....Move to a weaker club and strengthen them and the competetion. Remember, it's a lot worse for the teams you're thrashing. Spreading the talents' a start...zoning, adding more div 1 teams for the stronger clubs etc. etc.are other ways.

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anon  
Years ago

gee getting boring winning is it spare a thought for the true basketball lovers who just want to play win or lose - more often getting hammered by stacked sturt teams who really are doing the flogging tough -
gee hard to be humble
go play soccer who cares
to all who play for the love of the game continue rain or hail as we should be hunmble in getting flogging by sturt -
give us strength

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IzzyT  
Years ago

How pathetic are some of these answers guys.

It was a caring parent asking for an opinion, she gave hers & only one person could add anything constructive.

I am from a country Association which has been in similar situation where we are always the team to beat. We have great caring coaches & kids want to play for our club to get the best possible coaching & a higher opportunity of increasing their skill or knowledge.

We have opposition clubs who are constantly bagging our club for our success, but not one of their coaches get off their asses to attend combined trainings to learn things & when we open our doors for open trainings, opposition coaches prides get's in the way of their noses & don't attend to try to learn more.

We cannot force kids to change clubs or teams, they want to play where theri friends play or where they know they are receiving the best coaching, force kids to other clubs, you force kids to quit.

It's obvious to me not knowing anything about city ball that Sturt is the club to beat?? Oppostion coaches ned to do their homework & work out a way to teach their current playing roster to challenge.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

this year its sturt, a few years ago it was north. So what!
Time catches up with the super young elite,as kids who grow quick,stop, those that havent do,so sturt parent in under 14 I give you at most 2 more years of beating the crap out of everyone then the rest will catch ya.
(Ps they nearly have now as your last few games have required considerable effort)

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Dribbler  
Years ago

SD, I'm not sure whether you're serious, or just conceited. But assuming you're serious, you have to realise that Sturt is in a different situation to other clubs because (1) it shares its stadium with the basketball teaching school and (2) names like Gliddon and Smythe have ties there. Hence, its easy to see why people feel that there are greater opportunities available there for both players and coaches. There's strength in numbers.

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SB  
Years ago

SD, you make some good points but realise a couple of things. By mentioning your club you have guaranteed that it is hard for the debate to focus on the good points you make and not turn into a club bash.

Secondly, being in a successful programs poses just as many challenges as one that struggles, they are just different. Most of the time these challenges are not based around the score on the scoreboard. As coaches we are always trying to challenge the players during games and especially in trainings, as this is where they develop fastest.

If your son wants to play another sport, then he should, but he shouldn't give up basketball to do it, unless he doesn't enjoy it! He should be able to do more than one sport until he is in his late teens where he may have to make a decision to specialise. If we can help without compromising the wellbeing of his team and other players then we will, talk to us.

And I agree with one of the posters above, put yourself in the position of a parent of a player who gets thrashed every week. Having been there it is a lot tougher to front up week in, week out in this situation.

SD, all things considered you are probably in a pretty good situation, be thankful for what you have.

I do have an answer (or this that awnser!) on how we can make things better in the junior comp and it involves promotion/relegation but I suggest that you search for the many other threads devoted to this and not start another one. Even I'm getting sick of discussing pro/rel!

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Ken Richardson  
Years ago

Two seasons in a year is too much.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

All this competition planning should be the responsibility of Basketball Adelaide now, not BSA.

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Tom  
Years ago

Agree it is now Basketball Adelaide's problem. The other thing you can do SD is to tell your club to stop poaching the best juniors from other clubs....Yes I can here the response from SB coming now...but the fact is they do it. From what I hear, they are currently chasing a big girl from West...Why? "Because she is big, she's from another club and well... we would like her"

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Magpie  
Years ago

The best comment on here was to take your kid to a team that is having a rough patch as far as success is concerned.

One or two really good kids in a team make the world of difference and lift the other kids higher.

You can sit in your ivory tower and complain how boring winning is or you can challenge yourself and your son by swapping to a team that needs good kids.

As far as the soccer thing goes; GO FOR IT. Soccer is huge in underage ranks, because juniors dont really have to have that much skill to play, compared to the skill level in the corosponding age group in bball. Wait untill you hit u16-u18's. Like most sports it suffers from a huge dropp in interest from junoirs, leaving the ones who are most talented, kind of like Bball. Training is outside in ALL weather. Games are outside in all weather, and if you think there are some pigs of stadiums around, wait untill you encounter some of the pitches with little or no facilities.

When all is said and done your kid has to be happy.

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SB  
Years ago

Be careful "Tom", be very careful!

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SD  
Years ago

I have been amazed by the response.

There are a lot of negative responses that do not help much.

Kids play sport to be with their friends, so why should they move to another club?

I do think that it is wrong that Sturt go and recruit players from other clubs.

I have no Basketball background, and Sturt is the closest basketball club, but in defense of Sturt, they are very professional, very organised and have many very dedicated members who do an enormous amount of work.

I am very impressed with the way the club is run, and how hard the boys train. I do understand why they are succesful, and why others from outside the area want to play at Sturt.

There are also other clubs who have succesful training programs, and very dedicated members who do very good work with their boys, and you can see by some of the results.

Basketball in SA needs to grow, and be strong through out, and not only a few clubs.

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Vadersmate  
Years ago

2 seasons a year to much????? (#95988)we could have 1 season that only goes half a year..... then how the hell would we compete with the larger states?

Im a Bball tragic, what can I say; If your kid aint happy then move on. But if your kid is going to change sports every time his freinds do then save yourself some $$ & throw in the towel now. I guess when his freinds start smoking its logical that........

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Anonymous  
Years ago

how about hav a pre-season that consists of just training and preparing for the winter season. That way we all dont feel drained. If we were to go on a weight training programme or a break to recover from injuries it is very difficult as there is no time since basketball interfears practically all year round. Summer league is just stupid these days and so many players will take it off because it is too much or they have football season or something and when the time comes for winter season they have lost interest and don't want to come back to basketball. Why dont Bsa give us a break and change!

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Vadersmate  
Years ago

Great idea(#96133). Why dont we just replace the summer season with a seasons worth of training! (add heavy sarcasim) Hey why dont we scrap games all together and train during the summer and winter. SA will have the best trained players in Australia. Gee it would have to be more exciting that actually playing games.... wouldnt it?

ARE YOU FOR REAL?

If you dont like the summer DONT PLAY. How do you think BSA would fund stadiums if they sat there over the summer gathering dust?

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SD  
Years ago

To Vadersmate

You should not judge other people by your standard.
I believe playing other sport (as well as basketball) is very good for young players development.
Different sports have different emphasis & skills.
By the sounds of Vadersmate it looks like he has a lot of experience in when things get difficult, he runs.


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SD  
Years ago

To Vadersmate.

I looked up some of your previuos comments - And some was very good, esp re Dome.

I take back the previous comment

Sorry

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ahh SD, all the usual arrogance of a Sturt parent.

And you wonder why your club is so universally despised...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mambo,

How many times does it need to be said the expecting people move to to weaker clubs is exactly the reason that we are in this mess. Until the weaker clubs vote the existing competition format out they will conmtinue to see their players move to stronger clubs. It is a junior sports market. And we are not competeing with each other. We are competeing with Netball and Football etc.

Dribbler,

You have one thing right. We do have ties with Smyth and Gliddon. But I am not sure how too many U10 parents know these people, nor the club which they played for. We have 6 U10 boys teams and 3 u10 girls teams. I am sure that they are in our club becasue of our commitment to Aussie Hoops and School clinics, not name dropping.

But secondly, that Sturt receive any benefit from haviong a stadium at Pasadena is a joke. There would be more South players at the school than Sturt kids. In fact right now I am not sure that there is more than 2 total. An of the 10 or so over the last couple of years that have attended the school. Most have moved to other school, for reasons you might want to ask them but I am sure that their leaving pretty much tells you they weren't exactly happy with the school. And what has their basketball program done anyway. 0 that's right 0 schools tournament championships. If it was benefitting Sturt surely they would be doing something.

And finally Tom,

Don't believe everything you hear. I heard that you have had relations with your cousin. But luckily I don't believe everything I hear.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Basketball Adelaide should give por/rel a decent go. Nothing wrong with trying it for a couple of years. The current system is clearly unsatisfactory for all clubs.

And what should BSA be doing differently? It is a good question.
Considering BASA bashing that's been going on on this forum, I was expecting tonnes of great suggestions!
Still waiting for the first one...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Never having experienced any basketball at any level, when child decided it would be their "sport", obviously chose local club "Blind innoncence, ignorance"what ever you want to call it, years spent in u/10, look at other clubs move out of the square you live in and learn good or bad, just learn and then make a decision. If your kid isn't happy,move. All clubs are different with different things to offer.
If it means another sport, do it! We are are here for a good time, experience it all, never look back and think If Only! just do it!

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Dribbler  
Years ago

96240 , to have 9 teams in U10's is a credit to the club and all its volunteers, but the post that I responded to did mention an older age group. I also gave your fellow club member, SD, the benefit of being serious, not conceited, but after reading the rest of SD's posts I admit that I, like Allan Scott, was wrong.

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Vadersmate  
Years ago

SD (#96147)Dont quite get what you meant about the running bit?

No need for sorrys either.

What BSA needs to do is not make any drastic decisions right now. The drain of the 6ers and lightning has been lifted. Fix Pasadena, consolidate a financial position & work towards a future which does not include flimsy tin sheds as stadiums.

Pasadena & Wayville are classic examples of the kind of stadiums that can be built in cooperation with other organisations - they just need to have half decent floors.

As for kids switching sports, as I said... go for it. The grass always seems greener on the other side. I realise Bball is not for everyone.

(#96133)post is just not viable. if you dont like it, move on.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pasadena High may be forced to close due to poor numbers withing the next 5-6 years. Will this have much impact of the Court?

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