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Dazz
Last year

#39038

Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Apparently this will be LIVE on 9-Gem.
12noon Perth time
3pm AEDST

I always thought this series would only go to 2 games, and with Lisch out that seems likely. But gees Perth don't want to shoot like they started last night's game.

Knight has to get back on the boards, and everyone else needs to step up their rebounding effort. Cats dominated in the 4 regular games, but last night the Hawks ambushed them. (Poor effort not to anticipate that.)
Jawai was subbed out about halfway through the 3rd quarter, and didn't re-take the court. I really hope they were just "managing" him for tomorrow's game. We have got to use him, Knights, and Jervis to stop Ogilvy and dominate inside.
(That said, I would not be completely surprised if Jawai did not travel.)

Need to keep Prather on the court. He is one of our most important players. Can only hope he doesn't give away so many silly fouls.

Kenny needs to get more aggressive on D. He can afford to give up a couple of fouls, Martin & Prather can't. He generally does a good job, but this is finals, need to step it up a notch.

Before last night's game started, Perth were odds on to win. Hawks lost all 4 games this season, and haven't won in Perth for something like 10 years.
Dare I say it, Perth's start was almost predictably complacent and unfocussed. This is finals, they need to me on the money from the tip-off.

In all their games in Perth this season, the Hawks have faded badly. That happened last night, but until then they were sticking with the Cats even without Lisch. Point is they generally don't fade at home. If Perth go into tomorrow's game expecting an easy win (again) they are likely to get ambushed (again.) If the Hawks can stick with them for 4 quarters, then anything is possible.

I don't want to see this go to 3 games, because I think their are question marks over the health of some Perth players, and if a GF series then also goes to 3 games they could be knackered.

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Anonymous
Last year
17:40 20 Feb 16

Reply #579128

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

I wouldn't say Perth dominated all four games, especially when they played in Illawarra. It was the Hawks who dominated until the final minutes of the last quarter.


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Dazz
Last year
17:46 20 Feb 16

Reply #579135

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth won all 4 games, by a total margin of over 60 points.


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Luuuc
Last year
17:50 20 Feb 16

Reply #579137

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hopefully big Nate is ok. That injury he has, with the symptoms that flare up right after a play doesn't go his way, seemed to bother him at a few stages last night.


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koberulz
Last year
17:52 20 Feb 16

Reply #579141

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"Perth won all 4 games, by a total margin of over 60 points."
And I remember a game against Melbourne earlier this season where Jermaine Beal and I combined for 40 points.


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koberulz
Last year
17:52 20 Feb 16

Reply #579142

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"Perth won all 4 games, by a total margin of over 60 points."
And I remember a game against Melbourne earlier this season where Jermaine Beal and I combined for 40 points.


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Dazz
Last year
17:57 20 Feb 16

Reply #579149

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

When you're unstoppable close to the basket, and marginal from the stripe, you have to expect that guys are going to strip the ball underneath. He needs to calm down and concentrate on nailing the frees. If he does that, then the fouls against him become a positive.
Doesn't explain why he was sent to the rooms early at Half-time, nor why he sat on the bench for the entire last quarter.
As I said, possibly just managing him for the game tomorrow, but he has supposedly had back issues in recent weeks.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
18:01 20 Feb 16

Reply #579153

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth didn't dominate all four games. They won all four, some with big margins, so they dominated the series. Move on now.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:40 20 Feb 16

Reply #579292

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Need to close it out without Lisch and get ready for the big dance.


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Kobe24
Last year
05:46 21 Feb 16

Reply #579309

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth have had a knack of beating the Hawks when they have had a star or two out this season. Just saying. Pity it wasn't a fully fit match up, this could've gone the distance.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
09:27 21 Feb 16

Reply #579319

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Correct. Perth were missing a star or two, in two of the victories. That's some knack. Just saying.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:47 21 Feb 16

Reply #579335

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Lucky Wildcats always things falling their way! (except NZ are waiting for them in the GF hehe)


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cats 4 life
Last year
10:58 21 Feb 16

Reply #579338

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Same as nz, when d Martin didn't play in game 3 of the first great series and tore his Achilles and didn't play at all the following year.

Still, 3rd time lucky if we make the gf and have a full team and hca this time around.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:13 21 Feb 16

Reply #579342

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

er no NZ were the better team a dynasty


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Anonymous
Last year
11:14 21 Feb 16

Reply #579343

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

cats 4 life is correct the wildcats will need to get lucky to finally beat NZ in a GF series


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cats 4 life
Last year
12:56 21 Feb 16

Reply #579346

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Not luck, bevo always for some reason plays with one import? Then played Nz without hca and without our best team. I prefer to play Nz, speaking to the player's there would nothing better than getting the championship over the tall blacks ;) mystro all fun and games but perth are the best team in Australia that's why it's called the national basketball league they should change it to the ibl international basketball league.


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Isaac
Last year
13:26 21 Feb 16

Reply #579348

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Penney needs to spread the ball.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:37 21 Feb 16

Reply #579350

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

I guess perth missing Prather and Martin in their win against the hawks is not all that important. lol Perth are the superior side


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natwhereyouat
Last year
14:00 21 Feb 16

Reply #579351

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Unless Penney goes off for 38+ today, Hawks are having mad Monday tomorrow.


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Luuuc
Last year
14:04 21 Feb 16

Reply #579352

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"Penney needs to spread the ball."

Penney isn't a guy who can do it on his own. He needs the whole offence to be firing on all cylinders so that he can get good shots out of it. When that happens he can still be lethal. It'll be interesting to see how closely and how frequently Prather tries to guard him today after being in constant foul trouble on Friday. I thought Hire was pretty effective, and I'm sure Redhage will see some tie on him too to help share the load.

Someone else needs to get going. Coenraad was good the other night. Either Oscar or Cody need to find a way to at least break even, because the Hawks guard stocks really do look ordinary with Lisch out. Martin is solid, but guys like White & Weeks who can play useful cameos now need to do more than just that. They become relied upon. Which isn't good.

I have a lot of respect for the Hawks but if Damo stays out of foul trouble the Cats really shouldn't lose this.


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MACDUB
Last year
14:48 21 Feb 16

Reply #579364

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Here we go. Pro-Perth reffing. Game over.


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bowtie
Last year
14:50 21 Feb 16

Reply #579365

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Pro Perth feffing usually IN PERTH.


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MACDUB
Last year
14:51 21 Feb 16

Reply #579366

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Few make ups now bowtie.

Would love to see play on more.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:53 21 Feb 16

Reply #579367

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Pro perth reefing? are you fuking blind? the haks are getting all the calls.


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MACDUB
Last year
14:55 21 Feb 16

Reply #579369

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

You can't touch the Perth bigs.

Seriously.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:55 21 Feb 16

Reply #579370

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth's passing is nice . 6ers need to watch how this team operates


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Indoorkite
Last year
14:56 21 Feb 16

Reply #579371

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

No you can't MACDUB. Physical contact whilst attempting a shot will result in a foul. Nothing new there.


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Luuuc
Last year
14:57 21 Feb 16

Reply #579372

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Good disciplined 1st quarter by the Cats. More of that, please.


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Dazz
Last year
14:59 21 Feb 16

Reply #579373

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hawks so much better with Forman on the court.

Interesting to see how long they can maintain this tempo. The pace is keeping Jawai on the bench.


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MACDUB
Last year
15:01 21 Feb 16

Reply #579374

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Thanks Indoorkite. I was referring more to the banging of bodies. Point taken.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:04 21 Feb 16

Reply #579375

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Two fouls early in the quarter is what kepy Jawai on the bench...


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Anonymous
Last year
15:05 21 Feb 16

Reply #579376

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

The Wildcats are getting sucked into the tempo of the Hawks


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MACDUB
Last year
15:05 21 Feb 16

Reply #579377

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Not a bad thing Anon. Perth are much better with Knight/Jervis i think.

Those two can defend the on ball screens a lot better.


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thomnuffy
Last year
15:05 21 Feb 16

Reply #579378

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Gleeson as fired up as I think I've seen him in a timeout.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:05 21 Feb 16

Reply #579379

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Gleeson has a point. Redhge has been horrible on defence. PRATHER fouling the shooter. lol


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Anonymous
Last year
15:06 21 Feb 16

Reply #579382

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

The keyway is scruffed as fk. FFS someone wax it looks so amateurish.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
15:06 21 Feb 16

Reply #579383

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

There's that tempo myth about Perth again....


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Anonymous
Last year
15:06 21 Feb 16

Reply #579384

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

scuffed*


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Anonymous
Last year
15:07 21 Feb 16

Reply #579385

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

status update: is cats 4 life still retarded? YUP


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Anonymous
Last year
15:09 21 Feb 16

Reply #579388

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth nice offence.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:09 21 Feb 16

Reply #579389

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Redhage flopping like he is having a seizure


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Luuuc
Last year
15:10 21 Feb 16

Reply #579390

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Offence is flowing very nicely. It's the D that's letting Perth down atm.


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thomnuffy
Last year
15:10 21 Feb 16

Reply #579391

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Gee there is some spirit in this game!


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Luuuc
Last year
15:11 21 Feb 16

Reply #579393

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"His feet were stationary and he got hit in the middle of the chest"
- LOL! neither of those things are remotely true


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Anonymous
Last year
15:13 21 Feb 16

Reply #579394

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Rucker and Harvey commentating. Yeah boi Razorbacks represent.


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thomnuffy
Last year
15:15 21 Feb 16

Reply #579397

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

That's twice Jawai has forced it where he should have looked for the pass.


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Dazz
Last year
15:16 21 Feb 16

Reply #579399

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Wow, Coenraad flops like a fish, and Redhage gets the warning?


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Anonymous
Last year
15:16 21 Feb 16

Reply #579401

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Another sign he should retire.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:17 21 Feb 16

Reply #579403

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

The tempo is all wrong for the Wildcats...all wrong.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:18 21 Feb 16

Reply #579405

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hawks leading... lucky for them Lisch is out because apparently any team that wins against Perth is lucky due to injuries! hahahahahaha


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Anonymous
Last year
15:20 21 Feb 16

Reply #579408

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Jawai is awefull loool


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Anonymous
Last year
15:21 21 Feb 16

Reply #579409

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

wow Jawai stinking it up


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Anonymous
Last year
15:22 21 Feb 16

Reply #579410

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

The Penney that came back isn't the vintage one we saw last time around. A shame but that's age for you.


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Luuuc
Last year
15:23 21 Feb 16

Reply #579413

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Top game, this.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:24 21 Feb 16

Reply #579415

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hawks shooting lights out. The camel is stepping up.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:25 21 Feb 16

Reply #579416

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Last time Cats @ Hawks with full strength teams Hawks were up and choked bad in the fourth. Have they learned from it? Time will tell. In an hour.


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Dazz
Last year
15:26 21 Feb 16

Reply #579417

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Jawai can't buy a call, gets hacked every time he gets the ball. Ogilvy can do no wrong in the eyes of the refs.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:29 21 Feb 16

Reply #579421

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth will win. The Hawks are playing at their best and perth went into a funk and it's only a 2 point game. They will win.


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Dazz
Last year
15:29 21 Feb 16

Reply #579423

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth's normally excellent defence is getting run ragged. Too many Hawks' shooters getting their eye in.


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Mystro
Last year
15:31 21 Feb 16

Reply #579425

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

I hope they beat the crap out of each other and it goes to triple overtime and the Hawks send it to game 3 before Perth finally get the win :)


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Dazz
Last year
15:32 21 Feb 16

Reply #579426

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

I'd back Perth from here, but there's no writing off the Hawks. Forman and Coenraad have their eye in, and if Penney starts hitting from outside...


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Anonymous
Last year
15:32 21 Feb 16

Reply #579427

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Breakers look way better than any of these teams.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:33 21 Feb 16

Reply #579428

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Is that why the Hawks owned the Breakers this season?


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MACDUB
Last year
15:33 21 Feb 16

Reply #579429

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Dazz, his lack of control doesn't help his cause unfortunately. He doesn't have that polish in terms of protecting the ball etc. So dangles it out there.

Wouldn't say Ogilvy is protected. He gets his fair share of calls against him. Hopefully it stays that way because he does have some secracy to what he does and glad the refs pick up on it.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:33 21 Feb 16

Reply #579430

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Or Mystro even if Wildcats win today it works for Breakers anyway. Think about it if no Game 3 of semis they may spread the Grand Final series over more of a time period which helps NZ only hosting Game 2. Perfect. :)


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Tom
Last year
15:34 21 Feb 16

Reply #579433

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hawks need to post up Coenraad. He can take anyone on the Perth team inside.
Oscar keeping them in it.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:36 21 Feb 16

Reply #579435

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"Is that why the Hawks owned the Breakers this season?"

Three of the four games were played during the Breakers disastorous stretch in Dec/Jan due to off court issues. Nice try though.


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Mystro
Last year
15:37 21 Feb 16

Reply #579436

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

The Hawks played NZ while they were at their worst.
They are now back in business and have played themselves back into form but yes, the Hawks did beat them four times this season.
NZ also best Perth twice and Melbourne six times :)


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Anonymous
Last year
15:39 21 Feb 16

Reply #579438

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

But Mystro they lost let's ignore the scenario around it a win is a win. Literally laughing now at the comment made.


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MACDUB
Last year
15:43 21 Feb 16

Reply #579441

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

It almost looks as if Jawai is playing drunk. Just looks out of sorts.


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Indoorkite
Last year
15:43 21 Feb 16

Reply #579442

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Can we just send Jawai to Brisbane now from Illawarra, will be a cheaper flight from Perth.


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Dazz
Last year
15:45 21 Feb 16

Reply #579443

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Wow, Cats getting raped by the refs.


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Mystro
Last year
15:46 21 Feb 16

Reply #579444

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

NZ's series record against the Hawks is redundant if the Hawks can't get past Perth and make the final.
I'm sure the Hawks would find comfort watching the final on tv from their living rooms whilst saying "we owned them 4 zip".


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Anonymous
Last year
15:47 21 Feb 16

Reply #579445

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"Wow, Cats getting raped by the refs."

Please do us a favour and disconnect yourself from the internet.


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Mystro
Last year
15:47 21 Feb 16

Reply #579446

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

I'm enjoying cheering for Perth :)


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Luuuc
Last year
15:48 21 Feb 16

Reply #579447

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Coenraad gives Damo a taste of his own medicine with that one


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Anonymous
Last year
15:48 21 Feb 16

Reply #579448

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Agent 97 on fire! Or the Perth version: "something something refs fault"


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MACDUB
Last year
15:49 21 Feb 16

Reply #579449

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Gleeson really not liking Prather today.


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Luuuc
Last year
15:52 21 Feb 16

Reply #579450

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"Perth are rattled right now"

Doesn't feel like it to me. Being out-played, yes. Rattled, no. Still sticking to the plan pretty well.


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Dazz
Last year
15:53 21 Feb 16

Reply #579451

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Most coaches use time-outs to settle their players, Gleeson just yells at them.

Can't leave Jervis out there alone against Ogilvy.


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Luuuc
Last year
15:53 21 Feb 16

Reply #579452

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

... ok, until that dumb Beal prayer, that is.


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thomnuffy
Last year
15:53 21 Feb 16

Reply #579453

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

They certainly look rattled to me.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:54 21 Feb 16

Reply #579454

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Seeing that close up makes me not like the FIBA rule letting you deflect away once it touches a bit of rim. Harsh.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:54 21 Feb 16

Reply #579455

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth don't look rattled they look cooked.


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Indoorkite
Last year
15:55 21 Feb 16

Reply #579456

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth must be close to worlds worst at finishing 2 feet from the ring.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:55 21 Feb 16

Reply #579457

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Can Gleeson adjust?


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Anonymous
Last year
15:56 21 Feb 16

Reply #579458

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

plus two missed free throws.

the chook is cooked.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:58 21 Feb 16

Reply #579459

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hawks are getting all the rolls. The Hawks have been forced to spread the load without Lisch and they have a great even spread of contributions


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Anonymous
Last year
15:58 21 Feb 16

Reply #579460

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

9nce tge bsll is on the rim. Free for all. Always has been a rule.


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Dazz
Last year
15:58 21 Feb 16

Reply #579461

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

I don't understand why Gleeson benches players with 3 fouls late in the 3rd quarter.
We need Prather and Knight out there, and might as well tell Jawai to go at Ogilvy and give up his fouls, he's not helping anyone holding down the bench.


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Luuuc
Last year
15:59 21 Feb 16

Reply #579462

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

They're playing attacking and unselfish basketball, and Perth's D is unable to keep up with it so far.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:01 21 Feb 16

Reply #579463

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"9nce tge bsll is on the rim. Free for all. Always has been a rule."

Yeah I know hence I said FIBA rule. It is different in NBA.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:01 21 Feb 16

Reply #579464

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Ellis doing well. Oh wait no it's not that it's the refs fault!!!11


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Luuuc
Last year
16:02 21 Feb 16

Reply #579465

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Any chance of a rebound, Cats? Either end would be fine thanks.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:03 21 Feb 16

Reply #579466

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Another 4-0 regular season record that doesn't mean anything.


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Luuuc
Last year
16:03 21 Feb 16

Reply #579467

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

I'm an optimistic guy, but this one's real close to being over.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:05 21 Feb 16

Reply #579468

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

or a D board.


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Jack Toft
Last year
16:05 21 Feb 16

Reply #579469

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

OSCAR FORMAN!

Welcome Back!


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Anonymous
Last year
16:07 21 Feb 16

Reply #579470

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

got top odds on Hawks @ $2.55. really happy now


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Anonymous
Last year
16:08 21 Feb 16

Reply #579471

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

beergate now touchgate?


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Luuuc
Last year
16:08 21 Feb 16

Reply #579472

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

1 field goal in > 3 minutes to start the quarter.

Congrats Hawks. Well played. That's what a positive mindset can do.


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Dazz
Last year
16:09 21 Feb 16

Reply #579473

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Normally I'd expect Perth to mount a comeback in the final quarter, but they do look rattled, and Gleeson seems to be out of options.


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Luuuc
Last year
16:09 21 Feb 16

Reply #579474

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Coach of the Year is coming up empty, yeah.


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bowtie
Last year
16:10 21 Feb 16

Reply #579475

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Big advantage to NZ if Hawks take it to 3.
Will certainly be in better shape for GF no. 1


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Anonymous
Last year
16:11 21 Feb 16

Reply #579476

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

another 100pt game. Bevo offence ftw


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Luuuc
Last year
16:12 21 Feb 16

Reply #579478

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Not sure if this actually helps NZ.
Had Perth won today I think they would have moved the GF forward.
Now going to a game 3 means NZ have to sit around and wait for a while, which is not necessarily an advantage, since whoever wins game 3 will still have more than enough time to rest up for the GF. Meanwhile NZ have the danger of getting rusty.


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Kobe24
Last year
16:13 21 Feb 16

Reply #579479

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Well this is a very pleasant surpiese. There will be a game 3, that's a small win already for the Hawks.


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Luuuc
Last year
16:14 21 Feb 16

Reply #579480

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

At what point does Gleeson start protecting his players from injury ...


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Red74
Last year
16:14 21 Feb 16

Reply #579481

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Leave jawai there so he can fly to brizzy quicker


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Tom
Last year
16:15 21 Feb 16

Reply #579482

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

OMG how can Perth be playing so poorly. Hawks too smart to lose from here.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
16:15 21 Feb 16

Reply #579483

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

This second half defence has been the worst I've seen all season.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:15 21 Feb 16

Reply #579484

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Gleeson isn't fazed he got guaranteed another contract anyway.


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MACDUB
Last year
16:18 21 Feb 16

Reply #579485

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Dammit. Hawks were 8 to 1 for 11 and over!


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Luuuc
Last year
16:19 21 Feb 16

Reply #579486

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Cheese-bur-ger :D


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Anonymous
Last year
16:19 21 Feb 16

Reply #579487

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

The Wildcats got the tempo all wrong...LOL.

In other words, Gleeson got schooled.


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MACDUB
Last year
16:20 21 Feb 16

Reply #579488

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Why is Game 3 so long away. Should be on Wednesday..but looks like its on Friday? What the?


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Mystro
Last year
16:24 21 Feb 16

Reply #579489

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Keep beating each other up :)

Perth to close it out at home.


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Luuuc
Last year
16:25 21 Feb 16

Reply #579490

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Great win, Hawks.


Cats ... embarrassing. Will see what we are made of on Friday after being thoroughly pantsed today.


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Red74
Last year
16:25 21 Feb 16

Reply #579491

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

R.martin getting a bit narky towards the end with Prather. Perth crowd better give it to him on Friday when they lose heavily


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Anonymous
Last year
16:26 21 Feb 16

Reply #579492

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

This Hawks semi final win is good for the game - Spenceley won't be liquidating this season.


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thomnuffy
Last year
16:26 21 Feb 16

Reply #579493

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Not that it's of massive consequence, but did R. Martin push the ref away at the end there?


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Indoorkite
Last year
16:27 21 Feb 16

Reply #579494

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Prather did well to ignore a balding 30 year trying to diss him.


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Touch the rim
Last year
16:28 21 Feb 16

Reply #579495

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

D Ewing on fire tonight!


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Anonymous
Last year
16:28 21 Feb 16

Reply #579496

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hawks just saved the nbl playoffs. Thanks.


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Luuuc
Last year
16:28 21 Feb 16

Reply #579497

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

He didn't push the ref. The ref put his hand on him and RM pushed it away.


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bowtie
Last year
16:29 21 Feb 16

Reply #579498

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Only bad thing about Hawks winning. Still a possibility of another game with EWING.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:29 21 Feb 16

Reply #579499

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Let's not forget according to Dazz it was the refs fault. What a classic.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:30 21 Feb 16

Reply #579500

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"D Ewing on fire tonight!"

VOMIT. and he tried to joke with Penney about his facial hair when his sucks as well. fkin loser


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Kobe24
Last year
16:32 21 Feb 16

Reply #579501

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Oh Dazz... Surely he didn't say that. Great for the league this win


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bowtie
Last year
16:32 21 Feb 16

Reply #579502

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

GF games were set on their dates.
No changes were going to happen.
First Advantage... Breakers.


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MACDUB
Last year
16:33 21 Feb 16

Reply #579503

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Swear Perth fans find any reason to get after a player..so RM was having a chat with Prather at the end. Big deal?

Think Perth will take Game 3. Too good at home.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:35 21 Feb 16

Reply #579504

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Bevo just showed who the leagues best coach is..


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Anonymous
Last year
16:35 21 Feb 16

Reply #579505

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"Oh Dazz... Surely he didn't say that. Great for the league this win"

Yes he did. Check out Reply #579443.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:36 21 Feb 16

Reply #579506

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Would be special if Bevo had a Cinderella story.


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Dazz
Last year
16:37 21 Feb 16

Reply #579507

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

I reckon if Lisch wasn't injured, Hawks would have won in Perth, and how they have flogged Perth without him. Bevo has simply out-coached Gleeson.

Gleeson is obviously a coach who prefers to stick to the plan, and play the percentages, but I feel that let him down today. Leaving the B-team on-court whilst the lead blew-out.

Perth are one of the best defensive teams in the league, but today that defence was shredded and left rattled. Rebound count was closer, but Perth built their 4 earlier wins on the back of dominating the boards, and that has been taken away.

Jawai has been a bit slow-moving all season, but the Hawks have figured him out. Whether you "blame" the refs, or Nate himself, or simply "the way the NBL is called," the result is the same. He gets hacked every time he gets the ball close to the basket, and at the other end he gives up way too easy fouls. In a fast paced game, with the calls the way they are, he's a liability.

Wagstaff continued his role as the teams Barometer.

Game 3 will be interesting. Everything says Perth should win, but it will in many ways be a litmus test test for Gleeson's coaching. Can he get the boys back on track, focussed, and negate the advances Bevo made in the first two games.


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koberulz
Last year
16:40 21 Feb 16

Reply #579508

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

"GF games were set on their dates.
No changes were going to happen."
According to you, some random guy on the Internet.

On the other hand, the league's GM has said otherwise.

Not sure which to believe...


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Anonymous
Last year
16:43 21 Feb 16

Reply #579509

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

He may be a random guy on the Internet but you are a random annoying guy on the Internet.


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Dazz
Last year
16:53 21 Feb 16

Reply #579510

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hawks played with much more intensity from the outset, and yes they hacked a lot in ways that I think should be called, and possibly in the regular season they would have been. But at the end of the day, the Cats just never matched that intensity, and gave up soft fouls.

Jawai is a perfect example. He gets mugged every time he gets near the basket, and if it were me reffing I would call those fouls. At the defensive end he gives up soft fouls, many that I wouldn't call.
But its being going on all season. It is what it is. He and the Cats should have adapted, but haven't, whilst the Hawks have figured out what they can get away with, AND how to get him in foul trouble at the other end.
Also, as I have said before, if you're a big-guy in that scenario, the solution is to work on hitting your frees, thus making the hacks a riskier proposition. You'd be less inclined to hack say Jervis because he shoots 76% from the stripe, but at 56% Jawai is a good bet.

Simple fact is that had the Cats played their best, they could and should have won. Responsibility for their loss lies squarely with the players & coach.
Whilst at the same time, you have to acknowledge the phenomenal effort of the Hawks. SO many of their players stepped up today.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:55 21 Feb 16

Reply #579512

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

The copy and paste kings live for this site and the NBL in general. They live to correct, it's sad in the real world but alpha male stuff on here.

As for game 3, the Hawks will let those 3s fly as they have nothing to lose everything to gain. Let's not forget the Cats done score they have no guy averaging massive numbers etc so if they are made to play any form of catchup with some score board pressure then it's good night to Marvins boys.


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bowtie
Last year
17:07 21 Feb 16

Reply #579517

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

It's an advantage that the Breakers receive due to their win in 2 games.
Anything else would have been unfair.
I expect Perth to win and still have home court advantage. But this gets interesting.


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Dazz
Last year
17:19 21 Feb 16

Reply #579518

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Perth were flat for the start of game 1, and flat for large parts of game 2. Even if they grind out a win in game 3, it doesn't bode well for a GF series.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:25 21 Feb 16

Reply #579519

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Do you give back the mvp trophy if your team wins a must win playoff without you?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:27 21 Feb 16

Reply #579521

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

it takes 37 muscles to frown and only 22 to smile.
it takes only 4 muscles to roll your eyes at the start of a Dazz post and 3 more to swipe past the rest of it but FMD those 7 muscles of mine are fatigued as hell after the last few days here


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cats 4 life
Last year
17:27 21 Feb 16

Reply #579522

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Dazz, just have a break, perth Wil do it in 3 just another $100 for Marvin.


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Luuuc
Last year
17:36 21 Feb 16

Reply #579524

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

More than $100 I reckon.

Just received an email from the club re. ticket arrangements for game 3 and I see that they have raised the price compared to game 1.
Poor form IMO.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:42 21 Feb 16

Reply #579526

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

That's the Cats for you Marvin is what he is. Surprised there isn't some game 3 $200 jersey for sale too!!


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bowtie
Last year
17:47 21 Feb 16

Reply #579527

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Give him time. Emails out tomorrow.


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paul
Last year
17:48 21 Feb 16

Reply #579528

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Seriously?


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paul
Last year
17:49 21 Feb 16

Reply #579529

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

That seriously was about the ticket prices BTW, not the singlet!!


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Luuuc
Last year
17:51 21 Feb 16

Reply #579530

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hard to know these days which one you thought might not be true :p


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bowtie
Last year
17:51 21 Feb 16

Reply #579531

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

No probs, I assumed that Paul.
Just a little yoke!


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Luuuc
Last year
17:55 21 Feb 16

Reply #579533

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

But yes - seriously.
When I posted that I had only checked my own seat price, but checking again now it is an increase across the board - for all categories of $eating, and for both members and non-members.


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Train
Last year
17:55 21 Feb 16

Reply #579535

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Isn't obvious what happened. Perth clearly tanked that game so there was a game 3 in Perth and chance to raise more revenue.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:56 21 Feb 16

Reply #579537

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

By $5 though...


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bowtie
Last year
17:59 21 Feb 16

Reply #579539

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Are Perth doing that AGAIN? I remember the big controversy in 2003(?) when they lost to 36'ers SF game 2 when up by about 25 pts at 3/4 quarter time. Fans and members calling for blood, shedding tears and throwing programmes. Those were the days.


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koberulz
Last year
18:02 21 Feb 16

Reply #579540

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

It's actually pretty smart. Nobody goes to game one, so you drop the prices. Game three is more likely to draw a crowd, as a decider and potentially the last game, so prices go up.

I'd like to see more game-to-game variation in prices TBH. Get more people through the doors without giving up revenue on the more marketable games.


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Luuuc
Last year
18:02 21 Feb 16

Reply #579541

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Was that 2003? Man ... time flies ...


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bowtie
Last year
18:23 21 Feb 16

Reply #579544

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Think so.
Paul Rogers was playing for Adelaide.


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koberulz
Last year
18:25 21 Feb 16

Reply #579546

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Yes, it was 2003. Adelaide were down 26 at three quarter time, outscored Perth 45-11 in the fourth.


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ME
Last year
18:48 21 Feb 16

Reply #579548

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

It's probably going to be yet another Perth and NZ Grand Final. Something needs to happen to even the playing field.


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Train
Last year
19:08 21 Feb 16

Reply #579549

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

@ME - have you even followed the NBL this year?!? There was a 2 win difference between 1st and 4th with 36ers a bees willy away from that. How much closer do you want the league to be ? Top that is the fact that 4th(NZ) knocked out 1st (United) in the first semi and 3rd(Hawks) are one win away from knocking off 2nd(Perth).


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MACDUB
Last year
19:09 21 Feb 16

Reply #579550

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Yes, i think the loyalty points deductions don't help. Perth and NZ can keep and maintain their rosters year in year out.

With that being said, other teams need to have more patience building up and maintaining the core of their team as both Perth and NZ have done.


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Isaac
Last year
09:27 22 Feb 16

Reply #579609

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Hawks aren't far off joining the Perth and NZ levels. Should have 1-2 import spots to burn so just a matter of managing the points cap. Gives them some options if anyone leaves.

Great game in Wollongong. Challenge is always that a team can treat that like their "grand final" and then come out lacking intensity in the follow up.

I was expecting the Forman/Ellis swap in Game 1. Seemed to work well in insulating Forman from foul trouble against Knight.

I don't think Bevo could do enough to rev his team up for the rematch. Wouldn't be surprised to see a belting back in Perth with the Wildcats comfortable in front of their home crowd.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:53 22 Feb 16

Reply #579695

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

I guess this will be the demise of the "Oscar's demise" thread... LOL!


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Wicky Gwace
Last year
15:56 22 Feb 16

Reply #579699

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

For some reason, Oscar looks more like an American to me...


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Twevor Towwance
Last year
15:57 22 Feb 16

Reply #579700

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

what?


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Wicky Gwace
Last year
16:09 22 Feb 16

Reply #579703

re: Wildcats vs Hawks, Game 2 - Sunday Feb 21 3pm

Sorry, I meant Amewican.


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