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Anonymous
Two months ago

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Matty Knight news

Winning Edge Academy in WA have announced that Matty Knight will be the head coach of the basketball program moving forward.

As part of this announcement they have shared that Knight will definitely be suiting up for the Perth Wildcats next season.

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ROFLcopter
Two months ago
12:30 15 Apr 17

Reply #633617

re: Matty Knight news

A ridiculous situation.

The Prather incident highlighted clearly that it was time for Matt to look at the bigger picture and bow out a champion.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:39 15 Apr 17

Reply #633618

re: Matty Knight news

Laughable medical advice IMO.


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Zodiac
Two months ago
12:41 15 Apr 17

Reply #633619

re: Matty Knight news

Not a wise decision by Knight to play on but in some ways is fitting. It was clear this past season the Wildcats were pretty much done and if not for the late Cotton signing wouldn't have even made the playoffs.

With Cotton gone and Knight & Martin another year older they won't be a playoff team next season so it's going to be one last rodeo for Knight and possibly Martin too before starting a new era.


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Anonomous
Two months ago
12:52 15 Apr 17

Reply #633621

re: Matty Knight news

Well, that may be what you hope will happen. Wildcats have a long history of being able to rejuvenate without missing playoffs.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
13:31 15 Apr 17

Reply #633622

re: Matty Knight news

All the more reason not to participate if that scenario is true.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
13:43 15 Apr 17

Reply #633623

re: Matty Knight news

Shocking news if true.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
14:04 15 Apr 17

Reply #633624

re: Matty Knight news

Hiiiiii everybody! I'm Dr Nick, Marty knight is fine to play trust me.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
14:06 15 Apr 17

Reply #633625

re: Matty Knight news

Hi Dr. Nick!


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Zodiac
Two months ago
14:50 15 Apr 17

Reply #633626

re: Matty Knight news

Hi Dr Nick


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Anonymous
Two months ago
17:28 15 Apr 17

Reply #633630

re: Matty Knight news

I cant believe Matt Knight is listening to the best Doctors in Australia rather than these internet idiots. Matt Knight is such a retard! Gosh!


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ROFLcopter
Two months ago
18:00 15 Apr 17

Reply #633632

re: Matty Knight news

Oh, please!

Did you see him after the Prather incident?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:40 15 Apr 17

Reply #633633

re: Matty Knight news

You banged on all season about how he is just a massive flopper and an injury faker. So which is it ROFL? If he is just faking then there is no reason he should stop playing.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
20:04 15 Apr 17

Reply #633634

re: Matty Knight news

How do you seriously think that if you 'flop' you head doesn't bounce around on the floor? So many ill informed people about this issue. Doctor's included.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
20:12 15 Apr 17

Reply #633635

re: Matty Knight news

Remember Floppage and his issues when he fell down and couldn't get up again in Adelaide? No one cared nor understood what caused that issue. Let's hope brain trauma won't be his next issue in years to come.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:29 15 Apr 17

Reply #633639

re: Matty Knight news

Why would Knight fake out his own team with a concussion? Moron.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:32 15 Apr 17

Reply #633640

re: Matty Knight news

Yet that same team allows to play again. MOron.


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proud
Two months ago
03:56 16 Apr 17

Reply #633643

re: Matty Knight news

I'd rather us chase a big signing like a Brock Motum instead of retaining Knight.

What other bigs are out there?

Would Perth ever attempt to get Isaac Humphries?


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Benno
Two months ago
06:28 16 Apr 17

Reply #633646

re: Matty Knight news

@proud Motum got offered a big contract from his euroleague team. No chance he comes back soon.


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ROFLcopter
Two months ago
06:30 16 Apr 17

Reply #633647

re: Matty Knight news

"You banged on all season about how he is just a massive flopper and an injury faker. So which is it ROFL? If he is just faking then there is no reason he should stop playing."

Knight is a known flopper and an injury faker.
All that flopping has bounced his squash and now it is stuffed. He certainly didn't fake concussion (in a critical moment for his team....you prat!).

Having him play on is ridiculous.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
08:04 16 Apr 17

Reply #633648

re: Matty Knight news

This guy is like a punch drunk boxer. They always feel they have one more round in them. Someone needs to step in and make this decision for him and his health. Marty needs to understand nick Marvin won't be around to pay the medical bills when he is getting constant headaches, mood swings which prevent him from getting work after basketball etc the risk at this point out ways the playing on one more season with an nbl team.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
09:36 16 Apr 17

Reply #633650

re: Matty Knight news

Allegedly the medico experts have cleared him to play.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
10:48 16 Apr 17

Reply #633651

re: Matty Knight news

Anyone without a medical degree that hasn't examined him please shut up. They've cleared him, he wants to play and knows the risks, end of story.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
10:52 16 Apr 17

Reply #633652

re: Matty Knight news

Anon above you don't come on a forum to shut up about interesting opinionated topics. So step back in line and let the people discuss.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
11:32 16 Apr 17

Reply #633653

re: Matty Knight news

NO need to examine him what so ever. His playing history and injury history speaks for itself. His last incident where minimal contact occurred sent off alarm bells everywhere and to even someone like the anon above they can simply read the signs.
If you can't interpret the signs bad luck. Don't come hear and talk smack about things you don't know anything about.


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ROFLcopter
Two months ago
11:51 16 Apr 17

Reply #633654

re: Matty Knight news

It's a ticking time bomb.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
13:00 16 Apr 17

Reply #633657

re: Matty Knight news

So with the logic that no comment should be made unless you're a medical doctor. Then no comment should be made in relation to all things nbl unless you are a coach or player within the league. Knight won't have a good ending, this is so risky, the consequences are depressing. I'm sure Nick Marvin will be happy to be interviewed come 60 Minutes time when he is a sad story Australia will watch.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
15:08 16 Apr 17

Reply #633660

re: Matty Knight news

Zackary


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ROFLcopter
Two months ago
15:20 16 Apr 17

Reply #633661

re: Matty Knight news

^^^^ +1

The league and Wildcats stand to lose a hell of a lot.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
17:21 16 Apr 17

Reply #633663

re: Matty Knight news

Feel free to comment on anything but dont say "this is terrible medical advice" if you arent a doctor.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
17:27 16 Apr 17

Reply #633664

re: Matty Knight news

Well thank goodness that Knight will be listening to his Dr's and not the opinions of uninformed posters. Just like nbl coaches etc don't listen to opinions made about them by the same posters. Have a view but leave the final say to the experts. Just like after the first couple of rounds saying the sixers were done and fire Joey, if those uninformed opinions had been listened to we wouldn't have coach of the year.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
17:32 16 Apr 17

Reply #633665

re: Matty Knight news

Yeah but you might have had a title...


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:16 16 Apr 17

Reply #633668

re: Matty Knight news

Screw coach of the year! He did nothing it was all about how good sobey and Randle were playing. When tactics needed to be implemented Joey exploded. And the health of a mans brain activity compared to Joey Wright and ability to not win titles are very different topics. I hope this isn't a told you so routine and knight has a graceful after basketball life.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:46 16 Apr 17

Reply #633669

re: Matty Knight news

As someone who has been involved in many concussions over the last 4 seasons in afl and rugby I am totally amazed that Knight is allowed to play on. Stunned. I would be almost 100% confident that at the elite levels of the AFL or Rugby this wouldn't happen.
I have done several courses over the last 2 seasons and there is no sense in this decision that I can see. The more concussions you get the more potential long term damage can occur.
If the medical staff that have examined him are right - fantastic. I wouldn't want to the Doctor that got it wrong.


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Pizza Hut
Two months ago
21:12 16 Apr 17

Reply #633674

re: Matty Knight news

So many silly comments.

Nobody is suggesting we know better than the doctors.
Instead I think most have a fair idea of the advice given, and we are disagreeing with Matty's decision, not is medical advice.

I can promise you that no doctor as given Matty any guarantees. They've given him an assessment of his condition, conceded he could play on for years if he doesn't get another wack, and outlined the risks if he does. Matty as decided to play on and the Wildcats have backed that.

I can't say that I disagree, because its is choice to make. However as a fan I am very concerned.
Watching him stagger around after a light rap, made me feel physically ill. I don't want to see that again.
I love the Wildcats, love watching them play including Matty, and winning their 8th Championship was something very special.
I can't imagine how sick I will feel if it turns out this cost Matty his health.

Much as I like and respect Danny Green as a person, I simply cannot get behind a sport than involves deliberately pummelling your opponent's brain. Nothing is worth that and Basketball sure isn't worth risking Matty's health.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
00:41 17 Apr 17

Reply #633675

re: Matty Knight news

He probably doesn't want to retire because any other type of job would require him not looking like a caveman.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
07:09 17 Apr 17

Reply #633678

re: Matty Knight news

If this ends badly which I believe it will, it will be on the Perth Wildcats and their supporters who all seem to have their heads in the sand at this point. A doctor can give a medical assessment and by technical terms give the all clear. But I'm sure that same doctor would off the record use common sense if it was their own sibling and say you are done! And I say it's on the club and fans because if there was an outcry this wouldn't be happening and he'd be paid out medically.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
08:50 17 Apr 17

Reply #633679

re: Matty Knight news

Leave the bloke alone, they won the title and all you can be judged by is results at the end of the day.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
09:00 17 Apr 17

Reply #633680

re: Matty Knight news

Sorry that's just another sill comment. Results don't count in the long term you may have a brain injury because those same results.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
09:14 17 Apr 17

Reply #633681

re: Matty Knight news

If he is still under contract and cleared by doctors to play on, and insists on playing, then what do the "it will be on the Perth Wildcats and their supporters" type people expect the club to do? Refuse to honour his contract?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
09:33 17 Apr 17

Reply #633682

re: Matty Knight news

Every reason to do so. There is every chance that his pre existing injuries will preclude him from any insurance coverage. related to head trauma. In this day and age the NBL doesn't even have a policy on concussion.


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ROFLcopter
Two months ago
10:04 17 Apr 17

Reply #633683

re: Matty Knight news

Agreed.

If this was in the AFL or NRL he would NEVER be allowed to play. Period.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:08 17 Apr 17

Reply #633685

re: Matty Knight news

Wildcats may have legal issues down the track, smug Marvin may finally get what's coming.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:10 17 Apr 17

Reply #633686

re: Matty Knight news

"In this day and age the NBL doesn't even have a policy on concussion."

Well that says it all. Bush league.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:18 17 Apr 17

Reply #633687

re: Matty Knight news

Yeah but pretty sad way to put Marvin for what he is... at the expense of a great bloke that has had some bad luck with head knocks.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
13:52 17 Apr 17

Reply #633689

re: Matty Knight news

What's it got to do with Marvin? Fuck, the Wildcats haters are morons.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
14:21 17 Apr 17

Reply #633691

re: Matty Knight news

I hope Marvin is keeping tabs on this thread as the advice here has far more credibility than anything he will get from the medical specialists


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:00 17 Apr 17

Reply #633697

re: Matty Knight news

"What's it got to do with Marvin?"

Umm he's the the guy in charge. The buck stops with him. Fuck, the Wildcats haters haters are morons.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:05 17 Apr 17

Reply #633698

re: Matty Knight news

No need for that. The Wildcats haters haters haters sure are rude.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
20:03 17 Apr 17

Reply #633702

re: Matty Knight news

"In this day and age the NBL doesn't even have a policy on concussion."

Well that says it all. Bush league.
yes, that's exactly what it says. Look at all the other main codes and you would see that the concussion protocol is well and truly implanted into the major codes.

Bush League indeed. All they seem to be worried about now is bums on seats. Certainly not players welfare. Where is the NBLPA in all this? Nowhere to be seen as usual.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
20:15 17 Apr 17

Reply #633704

re: Matty Knight news

NBLPA is basically Jacob Holmes' study. and he's not even a lawyer but studying towards it. Joke.


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Brett M
Two months ago
12:01 18 Apr 17

Reply #633735

re: Matty Knight news

I'm new here. Can someone explain to me the absolute hate for the Wildcats? Is it just because they perennially succeed?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:13 18 Apr 17

Reply #633740

re: Matty Knight news

This topic has minimal hate for the Perth Wildcats, it's more to do with a sports team not showing adequate duty of care. The club in question simply happens to be the Perth Wildcats. I've loved to dislike Matty knight over the years as an opposition fan purely due to his excellence as a player, but now I'm concerned FOR him as a human. Untwist your opinion and get these facts right before labelling this hate.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:18 18 Apr 17

Reply #633743

re: Matty Knight news

Well said. Brett I suspect you are trolling but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. The Wildcats fan base aren't exactly gracious, they will stick it to you whenever possible, then cry "haters!". But this is offtopic as the point of the thread is a player's health.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:22 18 Apr 17

Reply #633746

re: Matty Knight news

@^ What utter crap you are spewing. Majority of the negative comments on this thread regarding Knight playing on have a negative tone towards the Wildcats. You cannot dispute that.

It's a very serious issue yes, but if the doctors deem it safe to play he should play on. Every. Single. One. Of. You. Dickheads. Would. Do. The. Same. Thing.

Hmm.. Listen to the professionals saying it is safe to continue playing sport for a living and earning 300k a year? Or retire prematurely based on internet knobs on a forum. Tough call that one fellas!


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Brett M
Two months ago
12:23 18 Apr 17

Reply #633747

re: Matty Knight news

Thanks Anonymous and Anonymous.

Genuine question, not trolling. Legitimately new here.

It was an overall question, not specifically this thread. I'll leave the Matt Knight's health aside, as I have my own opinions there (psychologist, married to a psychologist. I understand duty of care pretty well). It's just that I've noticed across a variety of threads that the Wildcats seem to be universally despised, outside their own fans. Wondered why.

Cheers.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:35 18 Apr 17

Reply #633753

re: Matty Knight news

Knight isn't on 300K, lol.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:37 18 Apr 17

Reply #633755

re: Matty Knight news

#633746 is another prime example of the feral defense mechanism of Cats fans. Criticise any aspect of their club and they will attack ferociously. Stop taking it so personally.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
12:56 18 Apr 17

Reply #633760

re: Matty Knight news

Its not that Cats fans cant handle criticism. Its just the ridiculous lengths people go to in criticising them. Apparently, according to these internet experts, the club has failed in their duty of care, despite Knight getting the all clear from the doctors, and that this will actually be great to see the smug Nick Marvin get his comeuppance.

But no, its clearly the Cats fans who are being irrational here...


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Anonymous
Two months ago
13:00 18 Apr 17

Reply #633761

re: Matty Knight news

746: Not a cats fan


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Anonymous
Two months ago
13:11 18 Apr 17

Reply #633765

re: Matty Knight news

Every team gets ridiculously criticised on here. Not sure why Cats think it's only them.


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ROFLcopter
Two months ago
14:54 18 Apr 17

Reply #633775

re: Matty Knight news

Anyone who is aware of the history of Matt Knight's concussions and thinks Knight playing again EVER is cognitively impaired.

End of story.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
16:14 18 Apr 17

Reply #633787

re: Matty Knight news

Dr ROFLcopter is a flog...and not a doctor.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
17:05 18 Apr 17

Reply #633793

re: Matty Knight news

ROFLcopter is correct, others who are naysayers must not follow NBL closely? As I recall even with the Razorbacks he had concussions. Then at one point years ago with the Cats the word was one more and he was done. Since then there have been many seaons with many more concussions. Boggles the mind (pun intended).


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Anonymous
Two months ago
17:31 18 Apr 17

Reply #633798

re: Matty Knight news

That tickle that caused him to stumble against the Hawks was the last straw for me. If caring enough to stand up and say this is a terrible idea and the nbl as a whole needs to be careful how this plays out, then fuck it I'm a 'hater'.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
17:32 18 Apr 17

Reply #633799

re: Matty Knight news

The Wildcats have wasted a lot of money sending Matt to Melbourne. They only needed to consult the neuro specialists here. Those stupid guys with the letters after their names wouldn't know anything despite their qualifications and experience. And to think it is ok to clear him to play without asking the legends on this forum for an opinion is beyond belief.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:14 18 Apr 17

Reply #633801

re: Matty Knight news

The term cleared to play and off the record you your brain are 2 different things. Doctors will give a very technical analysis, but would they give their own kids the same feedback without a more humanised opinion? No, so technically he has been cleared by doctors yay realistically the chances of him ending up in great pain later compared to another athlete without the head knocks would be much greater.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:18 18 Apr 17

Reply #633803

re: Matty Knight news

Exactly. People think it is black and white but it's not. The specialist would give his opinion with qualifiers, i.e. you can possibly play but with these reprecussions down the line. The people screaming hater are so dumb, they think the medical opinion he got means there is no risk.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
18:43 18 Apr 17

Reply #633814

re: Matty Knight news

No, we are saying that those saying he shouldn't have been cleared don't know the full story.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
19:04 18 Apr 17

Reply #633816

re: Matty Knight news

Perhaps all future opinions could be prefaced by a short rundown on your qualifications to make such opinion public.
Especially those who see Marvin and others being negligent.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
19:17 18 Apr 17

Reply #633818

re: Matty Knight news

To the bold anonymous, you're being a pretty stubborn idiot about the big picture. You don't seem to understand people are genuinely concerned and I would be concerned myself if I was Nick Marvin and something went horribly wrong and people started asking me why I signed off etc sure medically I was backed but did I ask enough doctors? Did I deep down know I had t simply say as a club we aren't comfortable and Matty would've been reluctantly ok with it etc understand the big picture not just that a doctor has said it's all good baby!


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Anonymous
Two months ago
20:33 18 Apr 17

Reply #633824

re: Matty Knight news

Apparently being concerned is a trait of a hater now!


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Luuuc
Two months ago
20:37 18 Apr 17

Reply #633825

re: Matty Knight news

FWIW I had a conversation with Nick Marvin about this very issue a few weeks ago, and I Can say that the characterisations here of him putting results before his player's welfare are way off the mark. Seriously, do you think he wants to commit a key roster spot to a guy who he knows he could lose indefinitely at any moment? His best course of action was to seek the most highly regarded opinion(s) possible, and it seems like that is what he has tried to do.

I am really not comfortable with the idea of Knight playing next season. But what is that feeling of mine actually based on? A lot of random anecdotes, brief articles, etc. I'm certainly no expert in the field and I couldn't argue against someone who is.


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LoveBroker
Two months ago
23:50 18 Apr 17

Reply #633834

re: Matty Knight news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVrHlXsQJgw

Classic example of Marvin having no regard for player welfare.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
09:02 19 Apr 17

Reply #633842

re: Matty Knight news

Thats all well and good Luuuc but six random anonymi said that Knight should retire but Nick Marvin is forcing him to play so thats all I need to hear!


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koberulz
Two months ago
10:35 19 Apr 17

Reply #633846

re: Matty Knight news

The only way to diagnose CTE is with an autopsy, and I'm pretty sure he hasn't had one of those.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
10:36 19 Apr 17

Reply #633847

re: Matty Knight news

Luuuc Marvin like some of the adelaide hierarchy are just salesmen you really think they'd open up to you about the true extent of the issues? Please, these people are always working even socially in the off season they know how to say the right things. Marvin is gambling with knights health. That's on him and the club if some it hung goes wrong to an extent from this point. So it is what it is, people seem passionate on both sides of this. Good luck to knight, I hope for the best and don't end up reading something sad and depressing on here or the likes of a news.com.au as a fluff piece about his physical fall from grace well after he has retired.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
11:46 19 Apr 17

Reply #633851

re: Matty Knight news

"The only way to diagnose CTE is with an autopsy, and I'm pretty sure he hasn't had one of those."

Rubbish. People can easily diagnose head trauma by reading the opinions of anonymous people on hoops dot com.


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ROFLcopter
Two months ago
11:51 19 Apr 17

Reply #633853

re: Matty Knight news

Some of you blokes are severely lacking intelligence.

No point fighting it....just keep licking them windows :)


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Anonymous
Two months ago
14:11 19 Apr 17

Reply #633858

re: Matty Knight news

"The only way to diagnose CTE is with an autopsy, and I'm pretty sure he hasn't had one of those."

How dare you say this without a medical qualification :P


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