Manu Fieldel
Last month

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Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

I've had my doubts as to Bryce's ability from early in the season. To me he's always seemed quite the specialised player, rather than the out-and-out superstar, MVP-without-question type that people may have thought. I feel like he's a confidence guy. Different to 'streaky'. He ain't exactly a streaky shooter because he'll knock it down any time.

His skill set imo consists of jumpshooting, drawing fouls on jumpshots, handles, making the odd decent pass and finishing a bit above average at the rim. He is by far the best iso perimeter player in the league, it's not even funny, but that's seemingly all he does. When that J isn't falling, what is he really doing for you apart from drawing attention?

I probably rate him as a top five player in the league, but he isn't exactly a steady commodity game-to-game. When hot, by far the best in the NBL, but Prather and Tokoto are probably better if you average out their performances over a decent period of time.

Apart from crowding him every time he gets to the paint, how do you actually stop this guy from getting off his shot? I don't think you really can. You can put length on him but whether he makes the shots or not seems to be contingent on himself, not the D. Aka, he can get his jumper off anywhere at any time. Great skill, but seemingly the only real string to his bow.

What are our thoughts?

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PlaymakerMo
Last month
00:34 13 Jan 18

Reply #665884

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

ATTN: Wildcats HQ

Cats need a stud import 1/2.


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Anonymous
Last month
00:42 13 Jan 18

Reply #665886

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Correct. He peaked at the perfect time in the GF to get max money. He isn't a superstar.


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Manu Fieldel
Last month
00:44 13 Jan 18

Reply #665887

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Ain't a killer 24/7. Killer mentality not there


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Anonymous
Last month
00:48 13 Jan 18

Reply #665889

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

This is another reason why Cooke isn't enough as the third import.


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Tickle me Cosby
Last month
00:52 13 Jan 18

Reply #665890

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Cotton was amazing against Adelaide last week, just doesn't seem to be doing it consistently.


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Thumper
Last month
01:47 13 Jan 18

Reply #665898

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Cotton was being pushed and pulled all game. Hard to play well when opposition cheats and refs too busy being shit to notice. Decent refs call those fouls early then they stop cheating and Cotton able to play his game.


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Anonymous
Last month
03:29 13 Jan 18

Reply #665900

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Cotton's doing fine, but he's not leagues ahead of the rest of the competition or anything like some of you guys are implying. He just needs more help.


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Udog
Last month
06:14 13 Jan 18

Reply #665901

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Pierre Tokoto needs to find his own nickname. "Air" is already taken and it makes me cringe to hear it.


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Big Ads
Last month
06:46 13 Jan 18

Reply #665903

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Did your hear air and not hair?


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Udog
Last month
06:48 13 Jan 18

Reply #665904

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Hair. Perfect. Now that was easy


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Anonymous
Last month
07:32 13 Jan 18

Reply #665909

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

lol Thumper.. I feel sorry for your parents.


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Chaz Michael Michaels
Last month
07:56 13 Jan 18

Reply #665912

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Cotton isn't Perth’s problem it’s the bench. Wagstaff plays to his old self 1/5 games, Hire is a 10th man at best and Steindl has been a massive disappointment upon his NBL return. Brandt is the only reliable option off the bench

Cotton is flashy and inconsistent and Tokoto can’t shoot, Martin is slowing down and isn’t the defensive stopper he once was.

Can’t see Perth going to the GF this season


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Anonymous
Last month
08:21 13 Jan 18

Reply #665917

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

People need ro understand he is not droppong 45 eveey game. He is also small and a good scout will look to punish him defensively, as they are this season. Think Isaiah thomas nba, if cotton was playing for brad stevens he would probs hit everything otherwise you do what you can create your own shot no matter what when youre the shortest guy out there


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Anonymous
Last month
08:57 13 Jan 18

Reply #665925

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Brand reliable. Nope.


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Anonymous
Last month
10:58 13 Jan 18

Reply #665937

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Cotton is a gun but it's very easy for the opposition to defend him when he constantly needs to create his own shot and he has no support with outside shooting. Steindl would be more effective too but the team isn't finding him in the right spots. They are victims of gleesons lack of coaching


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BVL
Last month
12:28 13 Jan 18

Reply #665950

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

I thought Brandt should have got more touches last night. Every time he was one out he hit the baby hook or got fouled.

Perth didnt run quality offence last night.

Not usre why as they had a full team, maybe United D stepped up?


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Luuuc
Last month
12:56 13 Jan 18

Reply #665955

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Cotton is doing just fine. I think the only issue is some people getting carried away with "all he's cracked up to be". Most people are aware that he wasn't putting up 45ppg all of last season, and accordingly have not set their expectations unrealistically high.
The Cats have got their issues (as most other teams do) but Cotton isn't one of them IMO. He's been good this season, but needs more help. We need to get some other threats working so that opponents can't key in so hard on him.


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Anonymous
Last month
13:11 13 Jan 18

Reply #665962

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Between bagging out Cotton and Glesson makes me think some people got no idea, Cotton is a gun and Gleeson is back to back championship coach and while I'm at it the referees were very good last night.


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Anonymous
Last month
14:39 13 Jan 18

Reply #665983

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

@Chaz Michael Michaels... you do know Greg Hire wasn't playing last night so I don't think he factors into the bench equation.


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Anonymous
Last month
15:57 13 Jan 18

Reply #666000

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

I will take Cotton over Smith from Cairns anytime.


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Isaac
Last month
16:57 13 Jan 18

Reply #666010

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Second in scoring in the league, so must be doing OK. Verdict is probably as was said: "Cotton's doing fine, but he's not leagues ahead of the rest of the competition or anything..."


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D2.0
Last month
00:53 14 Jan 18

Reply #666252

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Ah, I get it now, "Cracked Up" cos that's what you were smoking when you wrote the OP.
Cotton is the best combo in the league, or maybe 2nd best now that Randle is back.


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paul
Last month
09:51 14 Jan 18

Reply #666274

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

What Isaac said. Super scorer, ok defender, unselfish player - any team would want him.

What happened in the off-season though was some people forgot that he had quite a few games where his shot wasn't dropping and Perth were 5-4 in his first nine games.

That got replaced with Cotton dominated the league and Perth went from terrible to not losing a game once he came in. The Cats had actually spent 9 of 12 weeks in the top four before Cotton arrived.


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Anonymous
Last month
10:05 14 Jan 18

Reply #666275

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Don't forget Cotton took us from last to first! ;-)


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paul
Last month
10:27 14 Jan 18

Reply #666281

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Oh yeah I forgot, take back everything I said!


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56
Last month
16:24 14 Jan 18

Reply #666387

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Yes yes he is


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Anonymous
Last month
17:28 14 Jan 18

Reply #666435

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Clutch player in big games. Don't know about anybody else but wouldnt mind Cotton playing for my team.


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Manu Fieldel
Two weeks ago
08:13 10 Feb 18

Reply #672014

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Just thought I'd bring this back to the surface


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
09:47 10 Feb 18

Reply #672026

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Jerome Beal v2.0


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
10:27 10 Feb 18

Reply #672033

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Their offensive is ineffective , Im thinking Gleeson message not getting through or very stale ideas.

- Steindl shows flashes of brilliance but not used and not open enough.
- Ineffective screens from big guys
- Very few pick and rolls
- Almost no drive and dish scenarios that actually create a good result

Call in a mentor coach to come in a provide some different point of view - its not happening at the moment.


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UseTaHoop
Two weeks ago
11:19 10 Feb 18

Reply #672046

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

Manu

Can't bring all the Wildcats’ issues to the surface. What’s visible is only the tip of the iceberg.

Who’s the captain of the Titanic though?


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Manu Fieldel
Two weeks ago
11:54 10 Feb 18

Reply #672055

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

My great grandfather's second cousin's uncle's friend's neighbour was actually the Titanic captain so thanks for reminding me mate. Traumatic time for me actually. Even more traumatic for me than this 'Cats season


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UseTaHoop
Two weeks ago
15:05 10 Feb 18

Reply #672075

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

This Cats' season traumatic?

I think you mis-spelt euphoric.


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
17:54 10 Feb 18

Reply #672116

re: Is Bryce Cotton all he's cracked up to be?

"Call in a mentor coach to come in a provide some different point of view - its not happening at the moment."

Lesser imports and a cooked Martin show Gleeson was only good with the finest of talent. Tone down the spending and a bit of aging has shown his true coaching capabilities.


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