cosby
Two months ago

Bronze Game- Opals vs Korea

Not the game the opals would of wanted to play this Sunday. Hopefully they can contain the koreans foot speed.

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cosby  
Two months ago

Shane Heal not in the commentary so that is a positive

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Hopefully we can also put the ball into the hole for more than one quarter

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Hopefully we lose, sandy gets booted and we can start fresh.

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cosby  
Two months ago

Sandy B ain't going anywhere. Her whole system relies on big liz cambage

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"Hopefully we lose, sandy gets booted and we can start fresh."

real classy. probably the same fool demanding lemanis's head after the world cup. neither are going anyway.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Do you have to wear the black sports bra when you play for the Opals?

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

This is brutal

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Korea have got nothing.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Seebohm over sandy

Sandy loves old vets. Can't do a lot without a 6’8 Centre in her squad.
Seebohm loves the fundamentals, the 1%ers. Has faith in youth. He’s different to all the others, he’s the new school. Feel bad for him though, he inherits a team in Townsville he never would of chosen.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

already making excuses for him hey

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Went from brutal to very scrappy, but probably fair enough. It's been a long week and this one is over.
Hopefully we see extended Seekamp, Nicholson & Blicavs time this quarter.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Blicavs has a future inn2-3 years.
Seekamp, should be her last stint.
No faith byncoaches in Nicholson and she's been ok.
Garbin has gone up from expectation, Bishop down.

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Anon  
Two months ago

That was an interesting conversation that the commentators were having about why Allen and O'Hea werent in the Opals 2016 Olympic team. The answer they were looking for was Brendan Joyce as coach with his pet players in Lavey and Burton.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Have you got proof it's the same fool #

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Red84  
Two months ago

Just saw something funny. Korean guards #22, #7 and #4 are serial travel violators, yet never get called by the Asian refs. And so bishop slides across her opponent to put up a shot (which goes in) and cops a travel call (which looked marginal at best). She and the bench erupt in laughter.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Blicavs has a future inn2-3 years.
Seekamp, should be her last stint.

Yeah, those extra 10 months of age that Seekamp has on Blicavs should definitely see her into the retirement home any day now

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Luuuc, you know how many pgs we have coming through...seekamp,does not have a shot at WC,or Olympics in 2022 or 2024.
You have Wallace, Mangakahia, Rocci, Conti, Shelley, Scsnlon, Heal, Amoore etc etc, I'm sure at least 1 will make it...

Allen and talbotnare 27 and 25. No,other small,forwards are coming through. Kunek is another 1year older than Allen and Blicavs a year younger. Froling another option.
Beyond them, you could have Nicholson although shell likely be a guard given her 5’11 size.
The prospectsnthere were high hopes,for like Sharp,and Horvat arent doing so,well.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"The prospectsnthere were high hopes,for like Sharp,and Horvat arent doing so,well."

What??

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Horvat was supposed to be the next pcoming of penny taylor, and she can abarely get minutes off the bench for ucla.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

That inbound from Talbot was disgraceful

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Sharp played in uni games and was way too slow. A spot 3 point shooter an not much more atm.
Does,a bot of everything for wake,forest, but they are one of the worst teams In the conference.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

You'll have to excuse my caution but there are no sure things. Plenty of junior players show potential at a young age, but Australian basketball seems pretty average these days when it comes to developing them into world class level.
I don't think we should ever write off a player under 30, especially if they are new to the Opals system.
I'd love to see some younger players come through and cement themselves a spot, don't get me wrong, but they've got plenty of proving themselves yet to do against good competition.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

You think that all,of a sudden Seekamp in the next couple of seasons will be quicker, can defend and shoot?
She's a distributor, she always has been. South Dakota < wnbl If shes there as a 30y.o pg in 2022, I’ll apoligise.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Brondello is better than that absolute clown Brendan Joyce

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

No doubt. Brondello better than most, potentially all we've had before but not the best choice beyond Tokyo.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

That could well be the first ever thing posted on Hoops that no one disagrees with

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

Shane Heal not in the commentary so that is a positive

Placed on mandatory rest before "commentating" four NBL Round 1 games in four days.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

This gold medal game has been good value. Looks like it will go down to the wire.

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Anon  
Two months ago

Anyone would be better than Brendan Joyce, but Brondellos problem is the same as the problems within BA and the women's program, they are old school, Jan Stirling needs to let a younger fresher person take the reins, she picks those like herself. Brondello likes the old style players, and you can see that when it gets tough.
Australia looks for its tall timber rather than fast smart guards, and Sandy will rely totally on Cambage.

For the Opals to move forward, they will need a different coach that can match the Euro style play .

They need an injection of new blood at these camps, and frankly a coach that resides in Australia that can actually go see what’s out there and not rely on preferences from other coaches or tape replays.

Not much will change between now and the next olympics, and by the time 2024 comes along you would want to hope that they have developed more than the"usual” ones they pick especially in the guard spots.
The bigs are more plentiful than guards right now



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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Remind me - who are the fast smart guards that Brondello keeps leaving out of the team?

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Incredible game by Motohashi to lead Japan to the gold. Great to watch.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Bec Allen named in the tournament all star 5. Well deserved. What a great 13 months she's had.

Motohashi MVP.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

The most obvious speedy guard omission would be Cole, as she is very quick and her bread and butter is driving to the rack and finishing through contact. Watching the recent 3x3 games, her go to move is to blast past her opponents and penetrate (and she was capable of beating the speedy Asian guards, which may have been an asset in this Asia Cup campaign). However, it isn't clear exactly what the situation is r.e. 3x3. Has Cole picked 3x3 over 5x5, does BA specifically want to keep the 3x3 and 5x5 teams separate, or does Brondello just not see a need for Cole's attributes in the Opals?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Brondello chose Mitchell and Mansfield as pgs for the WC. Both injured late on.
It ended up being Ebzery playing pg for the first time and Madgen as backup with Lavey getting few minutes.
Lavey showed more promise than Madgen, yet sandy persisted with Madgen who could barely get the ball over half way.
The second unit at the WC didn't contribute much at all and the starters played big minutes.

The choices,for,this tournament were
Mitchell, Mansfield, Ebzery, Seekamp,mMadgen, Lavey
Madgen gets cut first, Lavey second, brondello has both Seekamp and Mansfield in pre tournament games.
Seekamp gets selected as third pg behind Mitchell and ebzery.


The sg situation had Talbot playing the 2 at the WC as a starter with Ohea injured until later,on in the tournament but persisted with talbot starting throughout and Whitcomb as the backup. Ohea becoming backup sf to Allen.

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cosby  
Two months ago

Great quality final. Japanese womens basketball has run a top quality system. Motohashi is a gun.

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Hoopie  
Two months ago

If I've understood all the threads recently
- most wanted Brondello to get her chance, which she’s had
- she isn’t God’s gift to Australian coaching after all, even though she’s a WNBA coach, and some already want her sacked
- she’s too old-school in her selections and game-plan, preferring slow bigs to fast small or medium-size players
- she selects with a bias towards what works in the NBA rather than what she needs against Euro and top Asian teams
- either she won’t pick talented 3x3 players or she’s not allowed to
- she doesn’t seem to have a Plan B for when things go pear-shaped
- she’s been unlucky with injuries to key players
- she seems to prefer older players who are over their peak, ahead of promising young ones of which we have so many
- she recently took us to Silver

Some of these points seem similar to the criticisms about Lemanis but with gender reversed.

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Nostraballmus  
Two months ago

Nostraballmus commends Hoopie on his compare and contrast. He would add 'not delivering medal/gold medal despite having the roster to do so'

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

We won silver because we had a good draw and we got 24 and 11 avg from cambage. The next best was Allen with 9 and Whitcomb who was backup sg with 8. Second leading rebounder was George with only 4.7 rebounds.

If we were on the other side of the draw, we would have finished outside of the 4, we would played against teams with a completely different style.

We had Nigeria, Argentina, turkey, china, Spain, losing to USA in final. Spain the only test n which they are now in transition.

The other side had Japan ( injuries), Canada, (§injuries), France p(injuries), and belgium.

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Nostraballmus  
Two months ago

Nostraballmus sees a theme that our national teams performance is never due to us. He sees that it seems our results are ultimately always due to something outside of our control like the refs, the draw, FIBA, other team's injuries etc

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

We won silver because we had a good draw and we got 24 and 11 avg from cambage. The next best was Allen with 9 and Whitcomb who was backup sg with 8. Second leading rebounder was George with only 4.7 rebounds.

If we were on the other side of the draw, we would have finished outside of the 4, we would played against teams with a completely different style.

We had Nigeria, Argentina, turkey, china, Spain, losing to USA in final. Spain the only test n which they are now in transition.

The other side had Japan ( injuries), Canada, (§injuries), France p(injuries), and belgium.


Let me save you the gymnastics. We won silver because we were the 2nd best team in the tournament. The top team (the world #1 ranked team) beat us in the final, and the other good team (the world #2 ranked team) pushed us to the very end on their home court but we got it done.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

No Cambage, no chance. Simple.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Agreed.

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anon  
Two months ago

cant believe Im saying this, but after watching all the games I actually think Lavey would have been the better option as backup PG, this seems to be our weakest area, strange really when you consider is normally talls that you struggle to find. Cole and Garrick , like Clydesdale were all cut or in Garricks case dont think she even made the camps. All similar type players, so think it looks more like Sandy doesnt like hat style they play, shes most definetly old school basketball. I dont think I saw the Opals huddle more than 3 times on court the entire tournament, but maybe it was cameras not showing it. so if they are not talking on court are they simply going through the motions.

Brondello is a good coach, but I dont think its been as beneficial as predicted or thought, mainly due to her absence from Australian basketball, and her preference for old style players who may be fine up against USA teams , but very flat footed against the Europeans, who all play small ball. Not enough is put into developing our guards as BA are only interested in 6ft plus players

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

Where were all teams from the Middle East?

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

At home presumably, since they all suck at basketball

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

Of course they suck if they aren't allowed to play.

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Two months ago

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Of course they suck if they aren't allowed to play.

India were the hosts and still got smashed in every game, and they're ranked higher than every middle eastern team.
Who are you suggesting should have been there?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Fighting in wars Perthworld you cockhead

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

I didn't mean this tournament specifically but in general throughout FIBA Asia women's tournaments historically. Their women's teams are weak because there is probably no opportunity to play in the first place.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

I don't follow what happens, but teams like Kazakhstan & Uzbekistan are getting FIBA ranking points from somewhere. The countries have to want to compete first. (and in some cases, have to allow women to play sport)

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Well, they play juniors now, only a matter of time.

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

Well that's great. Good to hear.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

I was just doing some browsing on the FIBA website trying to understand olympic qualification.
Was the Asia Cup tournament completely worthless? It seems that the same 8 teams who just played in the Asia Cup will play again in the November 14-17 qualifying tournament, and that tournament is the one that will send its top 4 teams to the last olympic qualifying tournament, in Feb 2020. What the hell?


BENGALURU (India) - The official draw for the FIBA Women's Pre-Olympic Qualifying Tournament for Asia-Oceania region took place on Saturday at the Shangri-La Hotel in Bengaluru, India.
All eight teams from the on-going FIBA Women’s Asia Cup 2019 will be playing at the FIBA Women’s Pre-Olympic Qualifying Tournament for Asia-Oceania region. The teams have been drawn into two groups:
Group A: Korea, New Zealand, Philippines, China
Group B: Japan, Australia, Chinese Taipei, India

The FIBA Women’s Pre-Olympic Qualifying Tournament for Asia-Oceania region for the Tokyo games will take place from November 14-17. The host of the Asia-Oceania Pre-Olympic Qualifying Tournaments will be announced next week.
Eight teams will compete for four spots at the FIBA Women's Olympic Qualifying Tournaments 2020 in February next year.

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