The truth is just a moment away, rumours are blowing in the wind.

Southern women gutted. Club has cleared every player who wanted to leave. Will be the worst in the league next year.

Who have Norwood brought back & North lost..

Southern men the big improvers...

Massingale to play locally?

Southern women:

Ciabatonni gone
Kinross gone
Nelson gone

Anderson going
Fawcett going

Spencer and Cunningham overseas but not playing with Southern on their return

Goergia Minnear gone to netball!! Not sure if playing basketball at all.

Heard North are shaping up to be pretty average, awkies

Are Mildura coming as we have not heard much latey

Heard that a team in the Big V are chasing Creek.

*Almost being the key word, awkies

Information is public knowledge down south. Apparently the mass exodus is due to the coaching change. A number of players were going to walk last year before being persuaded to stay. Rumor is the panthers will be the main beneficiary

ok Hamish, how'd you go in the final?

howd you go ingles?

Are you talking about North Men or Women?

freddy you are a bitter man, the coaching change may have been the reason for 2 girls leaving but its more likely one was chasing dollars!!! Fawcett and Anderson not going anyhere, contracts have been signed. Time to check those facts again freddy!!

Freddy

Thats not Freddy Fudd Pucker is it?

The little man that looks like Elmer Fudd ?

Not bitter at all - no vested interest or reason to be. Simply providing the information I know as the rumours that they are.

Judging by your touchy and defensive response to these rumours, it would be obvious that you do have a vested interest in this situation.

If the rumours are incorrect, and supposedly have no basis, It makes your response that much more interesting.

Enjoy bottom 2 this season :)

Freddy you say you have no interest then how come you post with such authority on the goings on of southerns ABA squad. I reckon you are a club troll on here causing trouble for your own amusement!

Wow guys... still barking up the same tree.

I am not associated with the club in any way, and never have been.

I am not an ex-player who has moved clubs.

I am not someone who didnt get the coaching gig.

I am not a parent of a bench warmer.

I am not a bench warmer.

I am not a player who wants to be in the squad but isnt.

I am not yogi bear.

Simply put this thread is actually titled... if you didnt already know... "ABL Rumours 2013" - this was a rumour I heard/found out about, upon my travels. Hence why THD I have posted in regards to Southerns CABL squad... Makes sense doesnt it :)

I am simply providing this information to the general hoops community as a RUMOUR... as this thread is titled.

Seriously guys - get off of the conspiracy horse, and take the Rumour for what it is - a rumour!

You seem to be very quick to jump on me here, is that due to the underlying truth of the matter?

So you're a nobody with no idea Freddy

So if I don't play for Southern, or apply for a coaching for southern, or am not associated with Southern... Great logic.

However im sure you are providing the hoops readers with significant entertainment.

So if I don't play for Southern, or apply for a coaching for southern, or am not associated with Southern... *this makes me a nobody?? ... Great logic

Freddy !! you try to sound intelligent and intellectual, but you come across a full on knob!!!
You are so pretentious i can't even be bothered trying to think of anything to say or to reply to your insipid comments!
Get a life you pathetic individual!!!!!!!

Ha ha ha

Not involved at southern, didn't apply for the job, not a parent but has a HUGE axe to grind!!!!!!!!

Has no idea what he is talking about, 3 players have been cleared to south from what I have heard that means no one else can go!

There must be a reason for the coach letting them go as well!

They might not like the coach but from my experience with him they will be the ones that miss out in the long run, have heard nothing but good stories coming from the girls camp

So 60% of my rumour was correct, and the other 40% I said 'going' not gone. That's not a bad hit rate for a rumour.

Knob, Im not trying to come across as 'intellectual' at all. All I am doing is stating the clearly obvious.

I get abused because I posted what I believed were rumours about an CABL team, in an CABL rumour thread.

THD like I said, I have no axe to grind at all. I have absolutley no need to in the slightest. I get along with the Southern coach quite well, and haven't made judgement about his coaching ability.

Just with the players that have left for whatever reason plus the girls away at college, they are probably going to struggle.

Again like I have said a number of times, all I have done Is posted rumored information about this team, in a CABL rumour thread,

I'm not the one calling people knobs on here

Daly gonna take his choking powers to another club

not much apparently

biggest story yet to break

and what is this big story or are you going to leave everybody sitting on the edge of our seats

Is the big story the Bowley sisters for Sturt

No but I bet it involves Sturt..

Hear that Forestville women are lookng to try and get 3 restricted players through on club juniors grounds.

Jenni Screen
Mia Newley
Olivia Thompson

Jenni screen is not a junior sorry.

isnt there some rule that states you must field division one in all the junior grades to have an aba side
i know that south also do it a lot as well but im pretty sure woodville dont have anything from 14-18 isnt that taking it a bit far
would be funny if they recruited an actual decent team and then werent allowed to play them
although bsa wouldnt do anything about it though i suppose

centrals played abl women for years without div 1 junior girls teams in all grades - no big deal.

rule needs to go otherwise creates a benchmark some can not keep.

10 years ago i can recall woodies fielding 3 teams per age grade in junior girls u12-18s.....

And that is the sort of attitude that will keep those clubs exactly where they are.

Woodville are running around offering money to ABA players while their junior girls club dies.

Why not take that ABA money and put it into resources for junior girls coaches, a junior coaching director and a resruitent officer?

The sooner BSA take away guarenteed div 1 spots and open up pormotion/relegation, the sooner clubs like Woodville will be forced to actually do something about their junior program.

offering 10 grand to a coach -paying coaching directors offering money to aba players
wow gotta get so of that action
true be know not true
10 years ago had 3 teams per age division if fact that what went wrong from then to now
too many experts with rumours
yawn yawn yawn =- i just wait till season unfolds to see who suits where and then wonder how do so many believe infairy tales
daly to south and yeah green pigs might fly
off to follow a rainbow

Forget the rainbow pixie, head back to English class.

Anonymous posters know everything for a fact!

so warriors throwing 10 grand to a former ABA coach and the coach knocked it back - now tell me who is stupid
the coach for not taking the money
the warriors for offering - apparently not accepted
or you for knowing for a fact ?
offer made offer declined means no offer - why would somebody turn down 10 grand for maybe 5 months work ???
067 no clues

like who...

I heard that the ref of the year two years ago is now assistant coach at woodville woman's this year
Benny Mac!
Does anyone know if that's real, seems like a waste of a good ref

Refs and coaching are not a good mix..just look through the juniors ranks..Not pretty..

Genna leaving Tigers?
I question has she or will she get a clearance?
Will the Tigers play hard ball with her like they did with Elmer Fudds son last year!!!!
Touching on Elmer, rumour about that he has been seduced from the black club to the club that wears white, the real question is did he jump before he was pushed???
And getting back on the Genna situation, from what i'm hearing there maybe plenty of positions to fill out North
2013 will be an interesting year in the ABL with all the changes around all the clubs at all levels, i hope they have some good refs available to control the games as i'm sure their will be no love lost between ex team mates

who else has left North??

Brandon Brine from North to Woodville
JW from Forestville to North.

Procedures,policies,constitution,or plain old fashion ethics????
As the title suggests, it is rumours!

On the subject of Forestville, i wonder if BSA or whoever have had alook at by laws or whatever to help put a stop to the comical fast of Borego repeating itself this year?

Anderson to North....

So THD I thought those contracts were signed??

So now that makes 80% of the rumour I reported sounding true...

Thoughts?

Freddy welcome back!

I was wondering when that ugly head from elm st would return
I'm still curious, how well do you know Elmer?

Brandon to Woodville
I hope they have got plenty of cotton wool to wrap him in
Such a shame lots of athleticism, just no real HEART

Interesting - I know who you are talking about and as much as you think I am that person... Your barking up the wrong tree.

But let's not overlook the point I made, 4 out of 5 predicted right that they weren't staying at Southern, yet I have an axe to grind? Maybe the truth axe.

Its like me saying you have an axe to grind with Brandon.... Oh that's right you do - your from Southern and still dirty he didn't want to play for Tigers.

Freddy, the players that have left have been replaced by better quality people?

Think you may find the tigers girls may surprise a few teams! They may play as a TEAM and not individuals.

Freddy you do have an axe to grind

Oops sorry i beg your pardon, its not Elmer its Nostradumus LOL about time something you predicted came true! you certainly stuffed up with the 21st of December 2012
Me ! no i don't care about anything really, no axes here, like i said just a shame to see potential go to waste
By the way its good to see the silly season is over and clubs have started to return to training and hoops has returned to its sledging self LOL it has been so boring reading factural stuff about basketball instead of all the made up lies and rumours that bring a laugh to most people who venture here

Norwoood men rumoured to be bringing back at least one player who retired a couple of years ago.

who have they recruited

which other North players have headed to Southern other than Stana Zecevic

Hey Nick is that you 103 ?
Good Post mate

Brenton

doesnt matter anyway - the big news is Mc Gyver is coming to Adelaide.

SIGN THE MAN UP !

Fixture lists have been released.
A few interesting matches to look forward too.

Not rumours, but - Looks like at Centrals, Matthew Clarke has retired.

Kyle Miller is returning for a 2nd year, not the norm for US recruits at Centrals.

Chris Clausen back from the US and Mat Atkins returning.

Supposed to be an anouncement regarding a new womens player shortly.

Sturt to have an import this season for the men & a non Sturt WNBL player for the women...

That would be because they do it at the expense of the rest of the club.

Those same clubs "cant afford" a full time coaching director, but can afford these ABA players.

Sturt have obviously got the ability to afford both now because they made a commitment to staff a long time ago.

Lions going to Mildura this weekend to play the Mildura heat in the mens comp. Old team mates from way back are coaching against each other (Scott Whitmore vs Jamie Madigan)Mildura have 2 new imports from what I have been told.
What ever happened to them playing in our league????

Not sure where you heard that from!!!

"Rhea interesting given imports can't actually be paid by a club to play."

"heard that centrals are about to rid themsleves of the second women's coach since the start of the year.
seems like the girls don't like this one either"

He is only an interim coach.

One would have thought that after trying to control 150+ boys, trying to control a dozen mature women would have been a breeze.

194, check the press releases issued by Centrals, I think it's pretty clear that interim is used to described the appointment. He might have been formally appointed at a later date, but interim is used.

Central Press Release...

This doesn't sound temporary....

Women's Coach

Head Coach, Andrew Jantke

Andrew states of his appointment; " I hope the whole community appreciates the achievements of this group of athletes over the past 2 years, gets behind our program from the Lions juniors, Trinity College and STARplex."



Andrew has almost 30 years of high level, district basketball experience. He played Div 1 junior basketball with the Norwood Flames, within a very successful environment, during the 90s, before moving to Adelaide Southern (since merged with Southern Tigers) to play Senior Basketball at State League/ABL level. At Adelaide Southern he played for two years under Harold McMath before returning Norwood to coach juniors. Whilst at Norwood he coached U18 Div 1 Men, Reserves and was an ABL Assistant Coach to Matt Dodson (a former Australian junior rep, currently coaching professionally at NBBL level in Germany).



Andrew's involvement with the Central Districts Lions first occurred whilst in his mid-20’s when he played at State League Div 1, Reserves and ABL level for several years before becoming involved in junior coaching at District Level.



Since then he has coached Division 1 junior teams at the Lions and also been an Assistant Coach at six National Championships with U16 and U18 sides with SA Metro. In the state environment he has worked with Coaches such as Liam Flynn (currently Assistant Coach with Townsville Crocodiles), Mike McKay (former Adelaide 36ers great) and a range of other top coaches across SA.



In 2009 he was appointed Director of Coaching with the Lions and the club has gone onto have unprecedented growth, player development and on court improvement whilst he was in this role.



Andrew is looking forward to the supreme challenge to contribute to the continued the success the ABL Women have had over the past couple of years. He will also be heavily focused on creating a playing environment that outstanding players and people want to play in, whilst developing a pathway for juniors to aspire to.



Andrew has completed his level 2 NCAS Coaches accreditation and has also completed subjects within the Bachelor of Elite Sport Coaching, delivered by the AIS/University of Queensland.

Jack, whether he was interim or not is not the issue. The fact is that these girls have now been responsible for the knifing of two coaches in about a month.

In any case, an interim coach usually fills in until someone permanent can be appointed. These girls might need to coach themselves now because there is obviously nobody worthy enough to do it.

From the 19th Feb and on their website:

"The Women's side has had a somewhat unsettling preparation with the late addition of INTERIM Head Coach, Andrew Jantke. The team has had an amazing couple of years taking the program from perennial cellar dwellars to back to back finals series. MVP of the league last season Jess Mahoney returns for the Lions as does the ever dominant Lill Keane who is set to have her biggest year yet. Coach Jantke believes that the Women will have lots of challenges before them but are an amazingly competitively, resilient group and any challenges will only make them stronger. Coach Jantke is hopeful of making a major addition to the squad in the coming weeks, stay tuned for more information."

Jack, you are still deliberately missing the point. An interim coach looks after a team until a more permanent appointment can be made. My understanding is that this is not the case and that now they will be on the look out yet again, as nobody wants to coach them.

Ariel84, that might be the case. Let's look at the circumstances. A new coach gets appointed after due process has been undertaken. Job advertised, candidates selected, interview, and then job offers made. He then quits.

ABL season is close and there's no time to advertise. A club needs to act quickly and so appoints Janx22 (without any advertising/interviews etc) so that the team can continue to function.

The club might have then rolled this into a more permanent appointment and avoid the hassle. Maybe they did, but I have find any press release or post stating that to be the case.

On the 19th of Feb, he was announced as an interim coach. A week is a long time in sport.

If that is the case then it says everything about Centrals as a in and why they are headed back down after a period of growth. Do don't that tgeir previous girls coaching director was treated similarly and not suprisingly move on as well.

Jack, you have selective reading skills. No, he was not made more permanent. He was as you rightly state, INTERIM, ie until the position is filled permanently. He has now quit/been sacked or whatever, and the position is now vacant again.

It doesn't matter how you dress it up, but the fact is that this reflects very poorly on the club.

Ariel84, All I have said is what I consider to be the position and that was he was appointed as an interim coach.

If he has quit because he thinks his position is untenable, then there are massive red flags. If he has been sacked, then one would expect an alternative coach selected and be in place. If that is not the case, then going into an ABL season with instability in the coaching position will not be considered optimal.

I quite agree. It does not reflect well on the club.

So at what point will Jess Mahoney be named player/coach???

What will be really funny is when the soon to be ex-coach leaves and goes back to Norwood and a whole bunch of players follow because they get a bitter taste in their mouths.

They we will hear the whole "woe is us! Thats not fair! Poaching at its worst! We need zoneing!" calls from the likes of Jack Toft.

When all along it is all to do with how they treat ther coaches

Why would I want an ABL zone? They're all mature adults

Because it will be the kids who he has coached over the past 5 years that will leave. The families who have strong relationships with the person who has put all the time and work into these kids will feel that the club has wronged the only person who has done right by their kids. And then the exiduswill begin.

Oh and I like your thinking that mature adults can make up their own minds on where to play, but parents cant for their kids.

As always a well thought out plan Jack.

^^This.

I think Andrew was probably always going to Norwood. He is a good coach but needs to work on his people skills.

I guess that means you've got nothing to say Jack?

Doh, I'm sorry, am I supposed to comment on every thing that is posted on Hoops? What comment am I supposed to comment on for your personal pleasure?

If I don't comment on cue and give you pleasure, then maybe you could comment for me and pleasure yourself.

You always seem to make comment until you are seen to be full of it.

Then you run and hide.

No, I comment when I am available to comment. In about 2 mins I'm outta here and having a Friday night drink!

I think we all know thats not really all that true here now dont we!

Unfortunately Jack, we have to put up with the very low common denominator in open forums

Doh I didn't say I liked him as a coach. I have seen boys stop as a result of how he talks to them. I don't rate him at all in this area.

Ex lion. You are welcome to your opinion. Other might have differing opinions.

But when the exodus begins don't listen to Jack Toft whining about the need to zone, because it is these types if decisions that cost clubs.

Why do people assume ? No.