Anonymous
Years ago

ABL Rumours 2013

Anyone heard about any transfers for the 2013 season??
Norwood seem to be shaping up well, while North seem to have dropped off, Norwood seem to be bringing back a few older faces!!

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anon  
Years ago

The truth is just a moment away, rumours are blowing in the wind.

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Freddy  
Years ago

Southern women gutted. Club has cleared every player who wanted to leave. Will be the worst in the league next year.

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Old Timer  
Years ago

Who have Norwood brought back & North lost..

Southern men the big improvers...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who is coaching the Southern women and who has left?

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jerry  
Years ago

Massingale to play locally?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I heard the women's coach for tigers is the one who coached the U18 D1 boys for tigers last season..

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Freddy  
Years ago

Southern women:

Ciabatonni gone
Kinross gone
Nelson gone

Anderson going
Fawcett going

Spencer and Cunningham overseas but not playing with Southern on their return



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Anonymous  
Years ago

where Boti goes sheep follow

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Anonymous  
Years ago

whats happening at norwood? massingale to play at norwood?

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anon  
Years ago

Goergia Minnear gone to netball!! Not sure if playing basketball at all.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon 677

You are correct he coached the 18 Boys last year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

is massingale australian, if not he must be on a sports visa, pretty sure flames could not afford $2200 a month?

why would knox not just take him back after his nbl vacation, he will be nice and fresh

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ciabatonni is the only decent players out of all those that is a loss. Where is she going? Not including SPencer and Cunningham

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think norwood could afford that, probably the most affluent club tied with forestville.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Massingale is signed at Knox

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Burnsy  
Years ago

Heard North are shaping up to be pretty average, awkies

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Freddy where are you getting your information from??

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SABOY  
Years ago

Are Mildura coming as we have not heard much latey

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Freddy you have gone quiet!! or are you off checking your facts?

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Tiger Watcher  
Years ago

Heard that a team in the Big V are chasing Creek.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

so whats happening at norwood? coopz making a return?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Y did everyone leave the Tigers they had a good group of players ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago


Burnsy
Yesterday
22:55 4 Nov 12





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re: ABL Rumours 2013


Heard North are shaping up to be pretty average, awkies




They will be almost the same team as last year so should be ok

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Burnsy  
Years ago

*Almost being the key word, awkies

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Freddy  
Years ago

Information is public knowledge down south. Apparently the mass exodus is due to the coaching change. A number of players were going to walk last year before being persuaded to stay. Rumor is the panthers will be the main beneficiary

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Ingles13  
Years ago

ok Hamish, how'd you go in the final?

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rio  
Years ago

howd you go ingles?

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anon  
Years ago

Are you talking about North Men or Women?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hey Tiger Watcher, who was the team chasing Mitch Creek?

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THD  
Years ago

freddy you are a bitter man, the coaching change may have been the reason for 2 girls leaving but its more likely one was chasing dollars!!! Fawcett and Anderson not going anyhere, contracts have been signed. Time to check those facts again freddy!!

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Curious  
Years ago

Freddy

Thats not Freddy Fudd Pucker is it?

The little man that looks like Elmer Fudd ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who's the Coach for Southern Tigers women this year and how come did they all leave for ??

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Freddy  
Years ago

Not bitter at all - no vested interest or reason to be. Simply providing the information I know as the rumours that they are.

Judging by your touchy and defensive response to these rumours, it would be obvious that you do have a vested interest in this situation.

If the rumours are incorrect, and supposedly have no basis, It makes your response that much more interesting.

Enjoy bottom 2 this season :)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So klaosen off to footy now obviously!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Freddy you either bitter about not getting the job or your one of the players mentioned having a crack at your old club

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THD  
Years ago

Freddy you say you have no interest then how come you post with such authority on the goings on of southerns ABA squad. I reckon you are a club troll on here causing trouble for your own amusement!

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Freddy  
Years ago

Wow guys... still barking up the same tree.

I am not associated with the club in any way, and never have been.

I am not an ex-player who has moved clubs.

I am not someone who didnt get the coaching gig.

I am not a parent of a bench warmer.

I am not a bench warmer.

I am not a player who wants to be in the squad but isnt.

I am not yogi bear.

Simply put this thread is actually titled... if you didnt already know... "ABL Rumours 2013" - this was a rumour I heard/found out about, upon my travels. Hence why THD I have posted in regards to Southerns CABL squad... Makes sense doesnt it :)

I am simply providing this information to the general hoops community as a RUMOUR... as this thread is titled.

Seriously guys - get off of the conspiracy horse, and take the Rumour for what it is - a rumour!

You seem to be very quick to jump on me here, is that due to the underlying truth of the matter?

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THD  
Years ago

So you're a nobody with no idea Freddy

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Freddy  
Years ago

So if I don't play for Southern, or apply for a coaching for southern, or am not associated with Southern... Great logic.

However im sure you are providing the hoops readers with significant entertainment.

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Freddy  
Years ago

So if I don't play for Southern, or apply for a coaching for southern, or am not associated with Southern... *this makes me a nobody?? ... Great logic

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Knob  
Years ago

Freddy !! you try to sound intelligent and intellectual, but you come across a full on knob!!!
You are so pretentious i can't even be bothered trying to think of anything to say or to reply to your insipid comments!
Get a life you pathetic individual!!!!!!!

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THD  
Years ago

Ha ha ha

Not involved at southern, didn't apply for the job, not a parent but has a HUGE axe to grind!!!!!!!!

Has no idea what he is talking about, 3 players have been cleared to south from what I have heard that means no one else can go!

There must be a reason for the coach letting them go as well!

They might not like the coach but from my experience with him they will be the ones that miss out in the long run, have heard nothing but good stories coming from the girls camp

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Freddy  
Years ago

So 60% of my rumour was correct, and the other 40% I said 'going' not gone. That's not a bad hit rate for a rumour.

Knob, Im not trying to come across as 'intellectual' at all. All I am doing is stating the clearly obvious.

I get abused because I posted what I believed were rumours about an CABL team, in an CABL rumour thread.

THD like I said, I have no axe to grind at all. I have absolutley no need to in the slightest. I get along with the Southern coach quite well, and haven't made judgement about his coaching ability.

Just with the players that have left for whatever reason plus the girls away at college, they are probably going to struggle.

Again like I have said a number of times, all I have done Is posted rumored information about this team, in a CABL rumour thread,

I'm not the one calling people knobs on here

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Heres one I heard on the grape vine Sam Daly to west....????????????

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Heard that myself about Daly

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Freddy forget the knockers the seem not to like the rumour, but I have heard from a source the story goes the topic coach was assistant to Willie with the girls and some of the girls unsure how many wanted nothing to do with said coach based on issues from the prior season(s)? it appears the club chose the coach so the players decided to leave and apparently a few others are contracted and that's where the buck stops.

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Ingles13  
Years ago

Daly gonna take his choking powers to another club

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Anonymous  
Years ago

so why is norwood shaping up well?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm pretty sure the only post ingles has ever made is a choking joke... Is it just me picking up on it?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

what is happening at norwood???

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pallas96  
Years ago

not much apparently

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anon  
Years ago

biggest story yet to break

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anon  
Years ago

and what is this big story or are you going to leave everybody sitting on the edge of our seats

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anon  
Years ago

Is the big story the Bowley sisters for Sturt

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Late  
Years ago

No but I bet it involves Sturt..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

fuck sturt, both their teams are gonna blow this year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

THD

If you have heard good stories coming from the Southern girls camp it can only have been from one of three Executive members whose daughters are now miraculously ABA players!

lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Have heard rumours that Woodville Women are recruiting hard. Approaching at least 1 player from Norwood, North and West. All who play solid minutes.

Sorry but i do not want to name names at this stage.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Have heard rumours that Woodville Women are recruiting hard. Approaching at least 1 player from Norwood, North and West. All who play solid minutes.

Sorry but i do not want to name names at this stage.



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Anonymous  
Years ago

#643, they can approach them all they like, but honestly, why would "solid minutes" players from any of those clubs be even remotely interested in playing at Woodville?

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Ariel  
Years ago

Hear that Forestville women are lookng to try and get 3 restricted players through on club juniors grounds.

Jenni Screen
Mia Newley
Olivia Thompson

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Wam Soosnam  
Years ago

Jenni screen is not a junior sorry.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Will Woodville be the first club to have a women's team with no junior girls teams?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Heard Thompson may not play in SA

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And don't forget borego, that'll surely start up again.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I heard South signed Daly

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unanon  
Years ago

isnt there some rule that states you must field division one in all the junior grades to have an aba side
i know that south also do it a lot as well but im pretty sure woodville dont have anything from 14-18 isnt that taking it a bit far
would be funny if they recruited an actual decent team and then werent allowed to play them
although bsa wouldnt do anything about it though i suppose

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Anonymous  
Years ago

#760
Im not sure, i don't think any have accepted but you never know for sure.

By solid minutes i mean 20-30 with the odd game 30+. If they went all would be definite starters and likely 35-40 minute players per game.
But then again you would be moving from top 4 team that are set into a team fighting not to be last.

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.  
Years ago

centrals played abl women for years without div 1 junior girls teams in all grades - no big deal.

rule needs to go otherwise creates a benchmark some can not keep.

10 years ago i can recall woodies fielding 3 teams per age grade in junior girls u12-18s.....



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Vesta 95  
Years ago

And that is the sort of attitude that will keep those clubs exactly where they are.

Woodville are running around offering money to ABA players while their junior girls club dies.

Why not take that ABA money and put it into resources for junior girls coaches, a junior coaching director and a resruitent officer?

The sooner BSA take away guarenteed div 1 spots and open up pormotion/relegation, the sooner clubs like Woodville will be forced to actually do something about their junior program.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Woodville are paying for coaching directors but they are not probably the best fit, more the last person standing with no hope of recruiting juniors or developing them.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

they were offering 10 grand for a coach to

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off with pixie  
Years ago

offering 10 grand to a coach -paying coaching directors offering money to aba players
wow gotta get so of that action
true be know not true
10 years ago had 3 teams per age division if fact that what went wrong from then to now
too many experts with rumours
yawn yawn yawn =- i just wait till season unfolds to see who suits where and then wonder how do so many believe infairy tales
daly to south and yeah green pigs might fly
off to follow a rainbow

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Anonymous  
Years ago

i know for a fact a former ABA coach was offered 10 grand to coach woodvilles women!

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cat  
Years ago

Forget the rainbow pixie, head back to English class.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Daly heading in another direction not south

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Real Talk  
Years ago

Anonymous posters know everything for a fact!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

is daly heading west??

Sturt will struggle if they lose both Daly's

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You in the phone book 'real talk', we are all anons with some more so than others. With the money the warriors were throwing around, can think that survival means less to them than stuffing the pockets of pretenders. All that's left is the Torrens Valley name to go up for the farce to be complete. A common sense solution is for them to unite with Magic or with Wests because any standalone future they had is gone.

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off with pixie  
Years ago

so warriors throwing 10 grand to a former ABA coach and the coach knocked it back - now tell me who is stupid
the coach for not taking the money
the warriors for offering - apparently not accepted
or you for knowing for a fact ?
offer made offer declined means no offer - why would somebody turn down 10 grand for maybe 5 months work ???
067 no clues

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hey Elf who is off, it's called 'desperation'.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Coz 10 grand is sfa

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What a shithouse thread, talk sense people and not shit. Maybe thing about what you are posting and put some thought into it. I'm all for some goss/news! There is the odd post that is worth reading and relates to the title but the rest is just crap

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Darren Ng back to woodville, confirmed

sturt now without, Daly, Ng, Tim K

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Anonymous  
Years ago

any NBL or WNBL players likely to suit up?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

players changing clubs left right and centre in the womens competition

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Old Timer  
Years ago

like who...

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Anon  
Years ago

I heard that the ref of the year two years ago is now assistant coach at woodville woman's this year
Benny Mac!
Does anyone know if that's real, seems like a waste of a good ref

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nice post benn... I mean Anon

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Old Timer  
Years ago

Refs and coaching are not a good mix..just look through the juniors ranks..Not pretty..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Genna Anderson leaves Tigers to North...

Is there anyone left!

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interesting  
Years ago

Genna leaving Tigers?
I question has she or will she get a clearance?
Will the Tigers play hard ball with her like they did with Elmer Fudds son last year!!!!
Touching on Elmer, rumour about that he has been seduced from the black club to the club that wears white, the real question is did he jump before he was pushed???
And getting back on the Genna situation, from what i'm hearing there maybe plenty of positions to fill out North
2013 will be an interesting year in the ABL with all the changes around all the clubs at all levels, i hope they have some good refs available to control the games as i'm sure their will be no love lost between ex team mates

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anon  
Years ago

who else has left North??

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Vespa  
Years ago

Brandon Brine from North to Woodville
JW from Forestville to North.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

interesting

Why would Genna not be cleared??

My news is she did not sign any contract.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any news on forestville, womens players?

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interesting  
Years ago

Procedures,policies,constitution,or plain old fashion ethics????
As the title suggests, it is rumours!

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interesting  
Years ago

On the subject of Forestville, i wonder if BSA or whoever have had alook at by laws or whatever to help put a stop to the comical fast of Borego repeating itself this year?

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Freddy  
Years ago

Anderson to North....

So THD I thought those contracts were signed??

So now that makes 80% of the rumour I reported sounding true...

Thoughts?

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interesting  
Years ago

Freddy welcome back!

I was wondering when that ugly head from elm st would return
I'm still curious, how well do you know Elmer?

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interesting  
Years ago

Brandon to Woodville
I hope they have got plenty of cotton wool to wrap him in
Such a shame lots of athleticism, just no real HEART

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Freddy  
Years ago

Interesting - I know who you are talking about and as much as you think I am that person... Your barking up the wrong tree.

But let's not overlook the point I made, 4 out of 5 predicted right that they weren't staying at Southern, yet I have an axe to grind? Maybe the truth axe.

Its like me saying you have an axe to grind with Brandon.... Oh that's right you do - your from Southern and still dirty he didn't want to play for Tigers.

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Don't like freddy  
Years ago

Freddy, the players that have left have been replaced by better quality people?

Think you may find the tigers girls may surprise a few teams! They may play as a TEAM and not individuals.

Freddy you do have an axe to grind

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interesting  
Years ago

Oops sorry i beg your pardon, its not Elmer its Nostradumus LOL about time something you predicted came true! you certainly stuffed up with the 21st of December 2012
Me ! no i don't care about anything really, no axes here, like i said just a shame to see potential go to waste
By the way its good to see the silly season is over and clubs have started to return to training and hoops has returned to its sledging self LOL it has been so boring reading factural stuff about basketball instead of all the made up lies and rumours that bring a laugh to most people who venture here

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't like Freddy.

You must be on something if you think Southern can replace the players they have lost in the past 2 years.

They wont win a game and will be the laughing stock.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A good team will always beat a bunch of individuals

Does anyone know if the tigers have recruited to replace these girls

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callisto86  
Years ago

Norwoood men rumoured to be bringing back at least one player who retired a couple of years ago.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Norwood = Dad'd Army!!

When will their juniors ever come through?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon 642

No one

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Are any 36ers suiting up in the ABL

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Anonymous  
Years ago

the tigers women have recruited players and they are training extremely hard at the moment, i doubt they will be any worse off than last year!

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anon  
Years ago

who have they recruited

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Anonymous  
Years ago

apparently a few north girls have headed to tigers

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So the Tigers no longer have the following (4 were starters:

Nelson
Anderson
Cabationi
Kinross
Muir
Fawcett (long term injury)

They had the worst bench last year.

So how will they be better than last year?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

fawcett back playing!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

if you knew what went on with 5 of those girls listed that played last year, and notice they arent their anymore, then thats your answer as to why they will be a better TEAM this year!

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anon  
Years ago

which other North players have headed to Southern other than Stana Zecevic

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Anonymous  
Years ago

wait and see! also couple of green and gold girls heading there as well

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Anonymous  
Years ago

l think Tiger will finish last this year and have to a 5 year plan to get back what they have lost or play money to get players.They will be the easy beats of ABA.

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secret squirrell  
Years ago

Hey Nick is that you 103 ?
Good Post mate

Brenton

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aristotle  
Years ago

doesnt matter anyway - the big news is Mc Gyver is coming to Adelaide.

SIGN THE MAN UP !

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Anonymous  
Years ago

gone a bit quiet!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Which clubs have restricted players, imports or NBL/WNBL players

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No clearance given to Anderson! Won't be good for her heading to nationals and not knowing if she is going to be able to play for the rest of the year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why are we even discussing Anderson? She is no game changer!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think they are discussing her because like a lot of girls in U23 she's hitting good points. Most find it much harder playing a team game needed in ABL where coaches are smarter and can stop shooters.
It would be silly to suggest her loss to Southern wont be felt but other facets wont be.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Would you like tell us what the other facets are?? Doesn't look like they miss her to much, pushed Norwood Tuesday night without her, looked like they just ran out of legs in the last quarter, but were in front most of the game when I was watching

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Anonymous  
Years ago

anderson who ?

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Joe  
Years ago

Fixture lists have been released.
A few interesting matches to look forward too.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

When are teams announced or is too early yet?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Centrals girls assassinated their coach last night

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Assasinated??? More info please. This should be interesting!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Story I got was a number of players sent email to committee saying coach goes or they do

Coach gone after 3 weeks of training

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think more assisted suicide. If you don't listen, you don't succeed

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Isn't that 2 coaches in 3 years that these girls have gotten rid of?? What a joke. Another poor effort by the committee by the sounds of it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

thats so far from being true its not funny.

g

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why doesn't Mahony just assume the player/coach role she's been performing that job since she joined the Lions!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon 417

Are you serious!

Southerns ABA Team pushes Norwood's Under 23 team...lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Southern's ABA team have never played Norwood under 23 team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lol, and it was also a weakened u23 Team.

Only 1 ABA starter who was also playing limited minutes & 3 fringe players.

Wait till players start performing in ABA before you praise them. The level is about 10 times higher than u/23's

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Anonymous  
Years ago

norwood has replaced sturt as the most detested group in the game

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon above. I think you are on the money!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What 36er will be suiting up for the Bearcats this year?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What 36er will be suiting up for the Bearcats this year?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hopefully not one the current crop

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Rhythm Willie  
Years ago

Not rumours, but - Looks like at Centrals, Matthew Clarke has retired.

Kyle Miller is returning for a 2nd year, not the norm for US recruits at Centrals.

Chris Clausen back from the US and Mat Atkins returning.

Supposed to be an anouncement regarding a new womens player shortly.

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Blues  
Years ago

Sturt to have an import this season for the men & a non Sturt WNBL player for the women...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I heard DJ and Cadee to West - any truth to this?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So the boys club at Sturt take over Hoops and ridicule every club in Adelaide who's ever put effort into ABL and got imports or National League players then turn around and do exactly the same.

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Rhea  
Years ago

That would be because they do it at the expense of the rest of the club.

Those same clubs "cant afford" a full time coaching director, but can afford these ABA players.

Sturt have obviously got the ability to afford both now because they made a commitment to staff a long time ago.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rhea interesting given imports can't actually be paid by a club to play. Yet never stopped them being used to push Sturt's agenda.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Playing with an import is actually good for junior players. Sturt should have done it a long time ago.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DJ was with west last season but don't think he actually got to play

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, because Sturts juniors playing ABA have really struggled without an import there...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^ You gotta be kidding me. Sturt are the most underachieving club in the history of the district competition when you consider the amount of state and Australian players they have produced.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

heard that centrals are about to rid themsleves of the second women's coach since the start of the year.
seems like the girls don't like this one either

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Only Forestville have won more Aba titles in the last 10 years.

Seem to have fixes that.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oh. And a few players have ended up being too good to play Aba.

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warrior  
Years ago

Lions going to Mildura this weekend to play the Mildura heat in the mens comp. Old team mates from way back are coaching against each other (Scott Whitmore vs Jamie Madigan)Mildura have 2 new imports from what I have been told.
What ever happened to them playing in our league????

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Panther  
Years ago

Not sure where you heard that from!!!

"Rhea interesting given imports can't actually be paid by a club to play."

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Some would suggest that the number of state and Australian players they have produced has indeed justified the way the Sturt program is run!
But hey, if you want to take the view that they underachieve because they produce a ton of great players, so be it...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

In last 10 years Sturt have only won one title equal with Eastern. Woodville and North. Norwood and Forestville have both won more!!

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

"heard that centrals are about to rid themsleves of the second women's coach since the start of the year.
seems like the girls don't like this one either"

He is only an interim coach.

One would have thought that after trying to control 150+ boys, trying to control a dozen mature women would have been a breeze.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm a little older, lets go back 30 years. Very ordinary results when considering it from the perspective of indivual players they have created.
Sturt has been great at producing state and Australian players but do not translate that success into wins at district level. From this angle they are the most underachieving club in SA. Some may argue that is a direct reflection of their program.
How can you be that dominant at junior level and not turn that suceess into senior championships on a regular basis?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Umm. Because the player become so good they leave for other opportunities.

Ie Smyth to NBL. Maher to Europe and too good for ABL. Summerton to Europe.

There are 2 sides to senior program. Since 2000 Sturt have won 6 titles amd rarely missed finals. Not too shabby.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How many of those players, end up playing ABL for Sturt every year? Not many. Because ABL is a lower priority for them.

In the men's, how do you think they would go with this team at the moment?

Tom Daly
Brad Hill
Jacob Holmes
Oscar Forman
Jan Warbout
Corey Maynard
Nathan Spehr
Claybrin McMath
Stefan Wright
James Spurritt
Josh Owen-Thomas
Tim Klaosen

All of these are not playing for Sturt at the moment because they have or are trying to forge out NBL or college (or AFL) careers.

Not to mention the current players who are not bad either. They were runners-up last year.

That team would win ABL by 50 every year!

It's been like that for many years as well.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jack, continue to promote the Centrals propoganda that all is right within that program. But we can all see straight through it with what has happened there the last 2 years.
Having talked to the coach in question in the last 7 days he absolutely did not think he was carrying the "interim" tag (nor did he think he was in trouble). It's a pity, he's a great guy and deserves much better (both at senior and junior level) than what he has to endure.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

194, check the press releases issued by Centrals, I think it's pretty clear that interim is used to described the appointment. He might have been formally appointed at a later date, but interim is used.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sounds like a broom is needed at centrals to sweep out the egos, 1 or 2 players don't make a club no matter how good they are!

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Old Timer  
Years ago

Central Press Release...

This doesn't sound temporary....

Women's Coach

Head Coach, Andrew Jantke

Andrew states of his appointment; " I hope the whole community appreciates the achievements of this group of athletes over the past 2 years, gets behind our program from the Lions juniors, Trinity College and STARplex."



Andrew has almost 30 years of high level, district basketball experience. He played Div 1 junior basketball with the Norwood Flames, within a very successful environment, during the 90s, before moving to Adelaide Southern (since merged with Southern Tigers) to play Senior Basketball at State League/ABL level. At Adelaide Southern he played for two years under Harold McMath before returning Norwood to coach juniors. Whilst at Norwood he coached U18 Div 1 Men, Reserves and was an ABL Assistant Coach to Matt Dodson (a former Australian junior rep, currently coaching professionally at NBBL level in Germany).



Andrew's involvement with the Central Districts Lions first occurred whilst in his mid-20’s when he played at State League Div 1, Reserves and ABL level for several years before becoming involved in junior coaching at District Level.



Since then he has coached Division 1 junior teams at the Lions and also been an Assistant Coach at six National Championships with U16 and U18 sides with SA Metro. In the state environment he has worked with Coaches such as Liam Flynn (currently Assistant Coach with Townsville Crocodiles), Mike McKay (former Adelaide 36ers great) and a range of other top coaches across SA.



In 2009 he was appointed Director of Coaching with the Lions and the club has gone onto have unprecedented growth, player development and on court improvement whilst he was in this role.



Andrew is looking forward to the supreme challenge to contribute to the continued the success the ABL Women have had over the past couple of years. He will also be heavily focused on creating a playing environment that outstanding players and people want to play in, whilst developing a pathway for juniors to aspire to.



Andrew has completed his level 2 NCAS Coaches accreditation and has also completed subjects within the Bachelor of Elite Sport Coaching, delivered by the AIS/University of Queensland.

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Ariel84  
Years ago

Jack, whether he was interim or not is not the issue. The fact is that these girls have now been responsible for the knifing of two coaches in about a month.

In any case, an interim coach usually fills in until someone permanent can be appointed. These girls might need to coach themselves now because there is obviously nobody worthy enough to do it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Or no one would want to

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think this 2013 Top 5 ABA Woman
Norwood
North
Eagles
Centrals
South
Sturt
West
Woodville
Mavs
Tiger a long last

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

From the 19th Feb and on their website:

"The Women's side has had a somewhat unsettling preparation with the late addition of INTERIM Head Coach, Andrew Jantke. The team has had an amazing couple of years taking the program from perennial cellar dwellars to back to back finals series. MVP of the league last season Jess Mahoney returns for the Lions as does the ever dominant Lill Keane who is set to have her biggest year yet. Coach Jantke believes that the Women will have lots of challenges before them but are an amazingly competitively, resilient group and any challenges will only make them stronger. Coach Jantke is hopeful of making a major addition to the squad in the coming weeks, stay tuned for more information."

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Anonymous  
Years ago

More info being he has been sacked by the girls club

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Ariel84  
Years ago

Jack, you are still deliberately missing the point. An interim coach looks after a team until a more permanent appointment can be made. My understanding is that this is not the case and that now they will be on the look out yet again, as nobody wants to coach them.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Ariel84, that might be the case. Let's look at the circumstances. A new coach gets appointed after due process has been undertaken. Job advertised, candidates selected, interview, and then job offers made. He then quits.

ABL season is close and there's no time to advertise. A club needs to act quickly and so appoints Janx22 (without any advertising/interviews etc) so that the team can continue to function.

The club might have then rolled this into a more permanent appointment and avoid the hassle. Maybe they did, but I have find any press release or post stating that to be the case.

On the 19th of Feb, he was announced as an interim coach. A week is a long time in sport.

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Not suprised  
Years ago

If that is the case then it says everything about Centrals as a in and why they are headed back down after a period of growth. Do don't that tgeir previous girls coaching director was treated similarly and not suprisingly move on as well.

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Ariel84  
Years ago

Jack, you have selective reading skills. No, he was not made more permanent. He was as you rightly state, INTERIM, ie until the position is filled permanently. He has now quit/been sacked or whatever, and the position is now vacant again.

It doesn't matter how you dress it up, but the fact is that this reflects very poorly on the club.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Quit being jacks new meaning for knifed in the back

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Ariel84, All I have said is what I consider to be the position and that was he was appointed as an interim coach.

If he has quit because he thinks his position is untenable, then there are massive red flags. If he has been sacked, then one would expect an alternative coach selected and be in place. If that is not the case, then going into an ABL season with instability in the coaching position will not be considered optimal.

I quite agree. It does not reflect well on the club.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And everyone is having a crack at the tigers coach for bringing out the broom and letting people walk

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Tigers Coach did not bring out the broom those players did not want to stay there and left on their own accord.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Did not want to stay there? Why?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Aaah Jack, aka Centrals propoganda machine.

Talking to the coach last week, he thought he was there for the season, and was talking about trying to add another player to the group in a week or two. He actually seemed excited about it, though I was horrified as he described what the atmosphere there was like - and NO coach worth his/her salt would put up with the treatment that was handed out at trainings. As for the first coach, he was asked to coach them as no-one wanted anything to do with this "team".
Both of them are good coaches, and pretty likable guys. And both appear to be more honest than what the "Centrals Truth" appears to be...

It is such a shame that a club is so blinded by potential W's that they would allow some good people to be treated like that. Who volunteer there time to develop their junior program and their future. Any club worth there salt would have backed the first coach (about 4 coahces ago!) and marched the trouble-makers off to do as they may.

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Panther  
Years ago

So at what point will Jess Mahoney be named player/coach???

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Doh  
Years ago

What will be really funny is when the soon to be ex-coach leaves and goes back to Norwood and a whole bunch of players follow because they get a bitter taste in their mouths.

They we will hear the whole "woe is us! Thats not fair! Poaching at its worst! We need zoneing!" calls from the likes of Jack Toft.

When all along it is all to do with how they treat ther coaches

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Why would I want an ABL zone? They're all mature adults

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Doh  
Years ago

Because it will be the kids who he has coached over the past 5 years that will leave. The families who have strong relationships with the person who has put all the time and work into these kids will feel that the club has wronged the only person who has done right by their kids. And then the exiduswill begin.

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Doh  
Years ago

Oh and I like your thinking that mature adults can make up their own minds on where to play, but parents cant for their kids.

As always a well thought out plan Jack.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

or Lil Keane as coach

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^Sure, why not? She is the self-appointed coach anyway by the sounds of it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Haven't Centrals already seen this? Didn't they flick off a couple of girls coaches & thus, lose a lot of girls over the past 12 months?

Their loss is Norwood's gain.

But hey, it's so important to have a top 5 ABL women's side that they'll allow the cancerous players to stay... then wonder why all their juniors leave after putting no resources into them. Makes no sense to me. Put resources into your juniors & they'll fill your ABL sides for years to come.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^ I think you will find that is exactly what is happening at southern!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He should return "home" to Norwood immediately and fill the gap left by a departing coach. Would be a perfect fit for both him and this group, and the timing would be good.

He is very loyal, unfortunately to his detriment in this case after his treatment at both senior and junior level by his current club.
If a coach talked to his players the way some of these players talk to the coach he would be dismissed immediately. The culture there is toxic, and will cause far greater damage for a longer period of time than the few wins will do good.

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OB65  
Years ago

^^This.

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I think Andrew was probably always going to Norwood. He is a good coach but needs to work on his people skills.

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Doh  
Years ago

I guess that means you've got nothing to say Jack?

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Doh, I'm sorry, am I supposed to comment on every thing that is posted on Hoops? What comment am I supposed to comment on for your personal pleasure?

If I don't comment on cue and give you pleasure, then maybe you could comment for me and pleasure yourself.

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Doh  
Years ago

You always seem to make comment until you are seen to be full of it.

Then you run and hide.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

No, I comment when I am available to comment. In about 2 mins I'm outta here and having a Friday night drink!

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Doh  
Years ago

I think we all know thats not really all that true here now dont we!

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rock  
Years ago

Unfortunately Jack, we have to put up with the very low common denominator in open forums

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Storm in a tea cup. Centrals are the Norths woodville. Both spend way too much on the senior program and neither have a team at senior women made up of predominantly home made juniors. Centrals bought a pit bull and now are wondering why they are getting bitten.

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Doh I didn't say I liked him as a coach. I have seen boys stop as a result of how he talks to them. I don't rate him at all in this area.

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Doh  
Years ago

Ex lion. You are welcome to your opinion. Other might have differing opinions.

But when the exodus begins don't listen to Jack Toft whining about the need to zone, because it is these types if decisions that cost clubs.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

FOrmer Lion parent. Interesting. The boys program seems to have grown massively over the past few yrs. That's just looking in from the outside.

I'm not sure any players have actually left whilst playing in his teams, infact they seem to do pretty well, perhaps your little johnny didn't make a team and got some honest feedback?

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Why do people assume ? No.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I heard Paul Bell's podcast and note that both DJ and Jason Cadee are suiting up. Is there such a thing as a salary cap in CABL anymore especially if the word doing the traps is that JC is on 10k.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not sure....ask Forestville

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