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Pick up game
Last year

#30423

Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Tonight the 36ers can catch up by two games on the Kings with a win or say goodbye to playoff action with a loss......

Perhaps the Kings will have one eye on the Tigers tomorrow and perhaps the 36ers will be tired physically and emotionally after last night.

IMO 36ers need a fast start

What are people thinking

What are the big match ups

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off with pixie
Last year
17:27 5 Jan 13

Reply #396279

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

we need to finish in front - forget the great start FINISH IN FRONT.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:32 5 Jan 13

Reply #396282

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Kings easily, the spirit was broken for good last night.


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Camel 31
Last year
17:33 5 Jan 13

Reply #396283

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

" Mr Clarke may not be safe ,you average 20 and 4 against us , and we understand that you are the key ? " " That's right! I am !! " Aaron replied , in a little bit of excitement .


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Smith
Last year
18:45 5 Jan 13

Reply #396304

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Tipping adelaide by 2 with crosswell to hit a critical 3 pointer somewhere in the game.


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Tairy Hesticles
Last year
18:55 5 Jan 13

Reply #396306

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Have you been sniffing paint Smith?


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Anonymous
Last year
19:08 5 Jan 13

Reply #396310

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Adelaide to just lose after a very spirited game, things to hit the fan this game with players and coaches clashing publicly.

Can just see the writing on the wall.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:09 5 Jan 13

Reply #396314

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

This game smells of disaster, can see it coming from a mile away.


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pure silk
Last year
19:25 5 Jan 13

Reply #396319

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Looking good thus far. Cmon 36ers !


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Smith
Last year
19:26 5 Jan 13

Reply #396321

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Petrie with the ankle breaker


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Anonymous
Last year
19:28 5 Jan 13

Reply #396322

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Kings lead 19-17 at Qtr time.


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KingJames
Last year
19:31 5 Jan 13

Reply #396323

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Crosswell a turnover within 6 seconds of getting in the game. I'm not sure if that is the type of veteran experience we are after.

Adelaide in control yet down at the first quarter.


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Quincy
Last year
19:33 5 Jan 13

Reply #396325

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

New import 4 mins no points no shots one rebound,same outcome tonight IMO


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KingJames
Last year
19:38 5 Jan 13

Reply #396327

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Unbelievable offensive goal tending not called. Lazare tries to dunk it and misses the dunk, the ball goes off the backboard and the ring is shaking and down and the ball then goes in. How is that not goal tending?


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Perry
Last year
19:43 5 Jan 13

Reply #396328

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

King James you should be supporting the kings, the more games we lose the higher the chance we lose Clarke! :0


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Marcus Camby
Last year
19:44 5 Jan 13

Reply #396329

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

KingJames,

That is called 'a friendly roll'.

We do not have offensive goaltending in the NBL.

What are you going to call next? Illegal Defence?


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Marcus Camby
Last year
19:46 5 Jan 13

Reply #396330

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

KingJames...are you going to call goaltending on DJ's putback for Cadee?


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Perry
Last year
19:51 5 Jan 13

Reply #396334

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Ben Madgen, tearing it up. should be playing NBA.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:53 5 Jan 13

Reply #396335

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Easy


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Anonymous
Last year
19:55 5 Jan 13

Reply #396336

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Kings up 41-37 at the half.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:58 5 Jan 13

Reply #396338

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Lazare's was a lot more suss than Dj's. Im watching this game and just cant believe how much i just dont care anymore about the 36ers winning or losing. I love watching bball from the kingdome though!


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Anonymous
Last year
20:01 5 Jan 13

Reply #396339

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Madgen <3


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Dana
Last year
20:01 5 Jan 13

Reply #396340

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Gibson seems to be trying to pick the team up on his back and do his thing. (in spite of what coach says.)


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KingJames
Last year
20:04 5 Jan 13

Reply #396341

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

"We do not have offensive goaltending in the NBL."

Marcus Camby, once again showing your intelligence on the game. Perhaps go check the rules.

The DJ one was close but thanks to my NBL.TV being pixelated at that moment and no reply it was hard to tell. It looked like the ball was already in and then he grabbed the ring, a play that you probably see every game.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:28 5 Jan 13

Reply #396350

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Kings lead 62-59 at the end of 3.


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Perry
Last year
20:30 5 Jan 13

Reply #396352

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Christopherson cant cut the mustuard, not his fault though, he is just out of college.

Another poor decision on marty's behalf.


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Pick up game
Last year
20:31 5 Jan 13

Reply #396354

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Ok, offensive goal tending most certainly called in the NBL.
If the ball is above the level of the ring and on the way down with a chance to score then neither the O or the D are permitted to interfere with the ball

That's my understanding of the rule anyway

Can someone with a black & white shirt confirm?

Interesting game to watch thus far
Madgen is a very good 2 Guard

Sixers would look great with Gibson & Madgen (1&2)


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Anonymous
Last year
20:33 5 Jan 13

Reply #396355

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Wow. Limited time to get a player and it's Marty's fault. It's a tough gig finding that great player. Limited money on offer as well. The Sixers should have cut Clark ages ago. They didn't, it's hardly Marty's fault now.


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Pick up game
Last year
20:34 5 Jan 13

Reply #396356

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Anon, Clarke cut CJ who was more capable and more experienced so what do you expect?


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Anonymous
Last year
20:35 5 Jan 13

Reply #396357

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Another quality 4th!


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Anonymous
Last year
20:35 5 Jan 13

Reply #396358

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Christopherson is not straight out of college before the 36ers was playing in Belarus.


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KingJames
Last year
20:36 5 Jan 13

Reply #396359

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Perry, I agree he was a poor selection by Clarke and made even worse the decision to get rid of CJ.

Looks like the Sixers are falling apart again in the 4th. Hopefully this is Clarke and Radford's last game


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Anonymous
Last year
20:37 5 Jan 13

Reply #396361

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

6:31 to go.

36ers down by 10.


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Perry
Last year
20:38 5 Jan 13

Reply #396362

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I am rejoycing in this loss, surely they cant keep clarke now....:D


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Marcus Camby
Last year
20:39 5 Jan 13

Reply #396363

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

@KingJames..

My bad....there is offensive goaltending (interference) in the NBL.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:41 5 Jan 13

Reply #396364

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Thats your only bad Marcus :0


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Marcus Camby
Last year
20:45 5 Jan 13

Reply #396366

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Cheers Anon'264...

I'm sure I have made other mistakes in the past.


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Big Ads
Last year
20:49 5 Jan 13

Reply #396368

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Just over two minutes and they are back within 2 shots........


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Smith
Last year
20:49 5 Jan 13

Reply #396369

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Not settling for the outside shot in the 4th qtr is working, go figure.


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Perry
Last year
20:50 5 Jan 13

Reply #396371

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

still cant win it from here, another narrow loss.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:51 5 Jan 13

Reply #396372

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

1:01 to go.

Kings up by 5.


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Marcus Camby
Last year
20:52 5 Jan 13

Reply #396373

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

@Perry....I thought you were 'rejoicing in the loss'?

Getting worried?


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Marcus Camby
Last year
20:54 5 Jan 13

Reply #396375

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Guys,

Don't blame Marty.

Cheers.

Marcus C.


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KET
Last year
20:54 5 Jan 13

Reply #396377

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Bye Bye Marty.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:55 5 Jan 13

Reply #396378

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Still can't actually believe we are in this position YET AGAIN! As in contending for bottom spot.


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Perry
Last year
20:57 5 Jan 13

Reply #396380

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I am rejoycing in the loss, its great, no more marty and his below mediocre coaching. Fingers crossed.


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The Situation
Last year
21:00 5 Jan 13

Reply #396381

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Sock Metry!!


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Anonymous
Last year
21:01 5 Jan 13

Reply #396382

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

AS the guys on nbltv said 8 straight losses.What are the owners thinking. Maybe go the community model?


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Marcus Camby
Last year
21:01 5 Jan 13

Reply #396383

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

@Perry...

Thats pretty poor form.

This game is crucial to the team's chances of playoffs.


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squid
Last year
21:01 5 Jan 13

Reply #396384

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Our import is that bad, Clarke must have hand picked him.
Well this should finally be the end for the so called coaching panel. But what irrepairable damage have they caused?


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Big Ads
Last year
21:01 5 Jan 13

Reply #396385

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Perry, why do you believe Clarke will be sacked? Surely not because you read a story by a journo who couldn't get a quote from the Chairman.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:02 5 Jan 13

Reply #396386

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I'm not sure why everyone is saying this is the end of the coaches. Are you sure about that?


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Mutley
Last year
21:02 5 Jan 13

Reply #396388

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Sack Marty.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:02 5 Jan 13

Reply #396389

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Kings win 86-82

8 game losing streak

See ya Marty!


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SRT070
Last year
21:03 5 Jan 13

Reply #396390

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

even if they dont sack the coaches, atleast if we dont make the play offs then marty will definitely be gone.


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Ingles13
Last year
21:04 5 Jan 13

Reply #396392

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

lol marcus camby has been trolling you guys so hard for weeks now. keep going son.


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The_Champ33
Last year
21:06 5 Jan 13

Reply #396394

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

The club need to seriously bite the bullet and sack the coaching staff please.

The player need a new voice, new direction, new insipiration. Someone who believes in them, delivers passion and instils confidence in the players.


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FM
Last year
21:07 5 Jan 13

Reply #396396

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Is Daly injured? How come he didn't get court time tonight against the Sydney Guards?


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Ingles13
Last year
21:08 5 Jan 13

Reply #396397

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

^ because he isn't good


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Anonymous
Last year
21:09 5 Jan 13

Reply #396398

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Bye bye Marty


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Anonymous
Last year
21:09 5 Jan 13

Reply #396399

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

‎0 and 8 since cj sacking well done Adelaide 36ers...Cj Replacement...22 minutes 0/0 and 2 rebounds and turnover...Well that is productive


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Spinner
Last year
21:10 5 Jan 13

Reply #396401

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

So what does the mighty Marcus prophesies now?

Get rid of this waste of oxygen called Clarke now - FFS!!!


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Anonymous
Last year
21:10 5 Jan 13

Reply #396402

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

How long has the club got left ?
Can they afford to replace the coach, or are they just going through the motions to fold at the end of the season when the venue is lost?


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Hendo8888
Last year
21:10 5 Jan 13

Reply #396404

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

We last won on November 16. 51 days ago.


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Big Ads
Last year
21:11 5 Jan 13

Reply #396405

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

:-(


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Anonymous
Last year
21:11 5 Jan 13

Reply #396406

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Daly is a great abl player but I don't think he is good enough for the nbl


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The_Champ33
Last year
21:12 5 Jan 13

Reply #396407

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I'll throw in $20 of my own money to help payout the coach if the club is struggling for funds.

Anyone else willing to chip in?


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Tairy Hesticles
Last year
21:12 5 Jan 13

Reply #396408

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Marcus is an obvious troll, well played Marcus.


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Perry
Last year
21:13 5 Jan 13

Reply #396410

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I'm in, I just want clarke gone and for the 36ers to suceed, whatever that takes.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:15 5 Jan 13

Reply #396414

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

CJ was slow, out of shape, possibly injured and from what I heard couldn't understand the plays that he was required to learn. For someone so expereinced it's interesting to hear that perspective.
SRT, Marty will be gone as unless the SoS'ers renew his contract, he will be gone.
if they continue to play next season they will need to be very careful about who they select as their next coach.


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Marcus Camby
Last year
21:16 5 Jan 13

Reply #396417

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Guys...

I know you are a little disappointed with this result.

You can take heart that the guys (and Marty) put up a great game and almost snatched it in a hostile environment.

Just unlucky that it fell a bit short.

You guys have said many times you'd be happy if the 6'ers were competitive...well today they were very competitive.


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Thomo
Last year
21:17 5 Jan 13

Reply #396419

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Thank you SIXERS you loss tonight and sportsbet odds have now
Paid for my season tickets.

Well played Marty well played

Now don't let the door hit your useless arse on the way out and don't forget
To pack you red headed garden knome as carry on


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Anonymous
Last year
21:17 5 Jan 13

Reply #396420

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I seriously doubt there won't be a 36ers next season with Ken Cole and his US backers interested in buying the team.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:19 5 Jan 13

Reply #396423

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

of course he couldn't understand the plays.."what,,you want me to stand in the corner alone and watch your PGuards attempt floater after floater?...your right he didnt understand that


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Isaac
Last year
21:19 5 Jan 13

Reply #396424

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Kings played Garlepp, White and Dann for about 20 minutes each. Crosswhite only played 15 minutes. We lost the rebound count.

Madgen is so tough. Had we grabbed him when we could, he might've been the next Maher for the club. Run him alongside Gibson and that's a tough backcourt.


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Ando
Last year
21:19 5 Jan 13

Reply #396425

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Hostile environment??? I would have thought Adelaide was more hostile


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Manute Bol's Father
Last year
21:21 5 Jan 13

Reply #396428

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

only kept tabs on the Fiba stats tonight and after being in the game at 3/4 time I thought we had a chance. Stupid me!! open the last giving up 14-5 in the first 4 minutes. GAME OVER!

Is it too much to ask to have your best 5 starting the final quarter? for gods sakes there's enough time outs in the final quarter to give grown men, professional ballers 10 minutes of court time!

Well played Thommo, for some ridiculous reason I put $20 ON the sixers thinking this run has to be broken eventually!


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Mutley
Last year
21:22 5 Jan 13

Reply #396430

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Heal should get a lot of credit for finding a way to make Kevin White this season (and Alex Gynes last season) into a useful NBL player.


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G Rudd
Last year
21:23 5 Jan 13

Reply #396433

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I think everyone is over CJ, no one will ever know if he would have made a difference. Looks like your import is a dud, think he was more useless tonight. Guess the Crocs aren't the worst team anymore.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:24 5 Jan 13

Reply #396434

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

CJ stood in the corner cos he didn't understand the plays. Couldn't hide him anywhere else.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:29 5 Jan 13

Reply #396438

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

sorry guys the people in charge just are not that smart MC and the carrot top will last the year but walking dead and feel sorry for the new import does not have the required skills to make any diff and the sad thing is Gibson will be gone for next year. Only hope would be securing Joey Wright but there will be no money at the end of year and could be no club unless some crazy millionaire wants to throw away a few mill a year


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Marcus Camby
Last year
21:30 5 Jan 13

Reply #396440

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

@Ando...

Yes Adelaide IS MORe hostile than an away stadium for the Sixers.

Sixers played better away...from the home booing and the Sack Marty chants.


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squid
Last year
21:30 5 Jan 13

Reply #396441

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

And Thomo, it's gnomb, you got it?


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Gnome
Last year
21:33 5 Jan 13

Reply #396443

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Squid I think you will find it is Gnome :-)


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squid
Last year
21:35 5 Jan 13

Reply #396445

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Just checking to see if someone was onto it!


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FM
Last year
21:36 5 Jan 13

Reply #396447

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Any coach that spent over the clubs own budget forcing them to shut up shop isn't the type of coach we want in Adelaide.


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Speed44
Last year
21:37 5 Jan 13

Reply #396448

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

There is such a level of consistency with the Sixers ATM. You gotta love that! Marty should be proud of at least that. No team in this even-standard league is more consistent than Adelaide.


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Isaac
Last year
21:39 5 Jan 13

Reply #396450

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I'll write the press release in case it saves the 36ers some time:

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Three seasons ago, we put our trust for the rebuilding of the 36ers as a team in a well-regarded coach in Marty Clarke. While he was yet to prove himself in the NBL, he had strong rapport with the younger players we need to attract to build our program, presented a strong case in his candidacy and is well-considered amongst his peers to the tune of Boomers assistant coaching responsibilities. Our selection panel was unanimous in backing him.

We were also enthusiastic about his support from the reigning championship assistant in Mark Radford.

At no point did we think the return of the 36ers to a place of power in the NBL would be easy or realised quickly. However, it remains very much a goal of the Adelaide 36ers and it is for this reason that we have come to an agreement with coaches Clarke and Radford that we will take a new direction after this season, and begin down that pathway immediately.

Both coaches, to their collective credit, have enjoyed strong support from players to whom they have offered a role of mentorship. Their commitment to the club and professional approach have not wavered. But the Adelaide 36ers are in the business of entertainment, aiming for success on court and the results have not come.

Any coach or player who relocates to our city, to dedicate themselves to our cause, has our appreciation. We absolutely wish both Marty and Mark good fortune in their future endeavours.

A caretaker coach will be announced by the club in the next few days. Towards the conclusion of the season, we will formalise the process of searching for, and appointing, a new head coach for the 2013/14 season.

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Anonymous
Last year
21:40 5 Jan 13

Reply #396451

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

lol Speed44 great observation...just so I do not miss the entertainment..Who have they got next week?...this is like following Black Caviar to see if the run continues


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Mutley
Last year
21:43 5 Jan 13

Reply #396454

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Gold Isaac.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:44 5 Jan 13

Reply #396455

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

That is Gold Isaac


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Kevin
Last year
21:46 5 Jan 13

Reply #396457

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan


Issac: Madgen is so tough. Had we grabbed him when we could, he might've been the next Maher for the club. Run him alongside Gibson and that's a tough backcourt.


I sit next to Gene Madgen at Adelaide Arena. I asked him recently whether Ben was ever approached by the 36ers to play for his hometown team. The only time his name was ever mentioned was when Radford asked Ben's brother, Jack, what Ben was doing for the coming season and by that point, he'd signed a deal with the Kings.

Yet another SA junior that was left to "get away" from the 36ers.


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CP3
Last year
21:47 5 Jan 13

Reply #396458

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Gee doesn't Madgen get up for games against the 6ers! Can't believe he wasnt offered a spot from 6ers when he returned from College!


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Mutley
Last year
21:48 5 Jan 13

Reply #396459

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Don't want to take a pass at Clarke's resignation letter do you?


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Marcus Camby
Last year
21:48 5 Jan 13

Reply #396460

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

There is absolutely no payoff in replacing MArty and Mark @ this late stage.

The only positive is that it will clam rabid 'fans'.

Save the money, let Marty finish the season, then re-asses.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:48 5 Jan 13

Reply #396461

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Appoint Wright = doomed permanently.


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Jake
Last year
21:50 5 Jan 13

Reply #396462

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Isaac you should put in your application for the CEO position!


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Marcus Camby
Last year
21:51 5 Jan 13

Reply #396463

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

@Kevin...

Madgen and Bruce were sh!t 2 seasons ago, especially under Moose.

There is no shame in NOT picking them up.


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Mutley
Last year
21:53 5 Jan 13

Reply #396464

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Wasn't Bruce playing under Marty two seasons ago douchebag?


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Kevin
Last year
21:54 5 Jan 13

Reply #396465

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Marty,

No one is fooled by your "Marcus Camby" psudonym here on Hoops. Hand in your resignation to the club and stop trying to argue every little call during the game and every little point here on Hoops.

Adelaide want you gone.


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FM
Last year
21:55 5 Jan 13

Reply #396466

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

How many weeks did it take in 2013 to fill Footy Park after the damage was done by Neil Craig?

Give the owners good steady income, act now and the fans will repay you immediately. Act later and there is a lot of financial burden that one of the owners needs to finance.


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FM
Last year
21:55 5 Jan 13

Reply #396467

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

2012. My bad


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KingJames
Last year
21:56 5 Jan 13

Reply #396468

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Great press release Isaac, now hopefully the Sixers will actually go ahead with it.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:56 5 Jan 13

Reply #396469

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Gee what a horrible season. Interesting to see who is appointed. Surely they couldn't keep their jobs now?


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Spinner
Last year
22:06 5 Jan 13

Reply #396476

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Marcus Camby you are a bloody idiot - there is no way anybody could be so stupid and not be an idiot.

Clarke - FFS fall on the sword and take that other piece of shit Radford with you. I have had enough and I am quite certain the rest of the sixer fans have too!


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billo
Last year
22:10 5 Jan 13

Reply #396480

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

It's interesting that the reason given for CJ's release was that we needed a guard who create his own shot - and then we proceeded to recruit a guard who is significantly less capable of creating is shot than CJ was (he could always get off a three even with someone in his face due to his high release point whereas Christophoson needs some space to get off a quick release).

Ive got nothing against Christophoson and I hope for his sake we keep him on till the end of the season, but from what I've seen in 2 games he's not really up to NBL standard.


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anon
Last year
22:10 5 Jan 13

Reply #396481

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

i agree that we need to get rid of marty and mark but there is no point paying a whole lot money when their contracts expire at the end of this season.
put up with this for the rest of the season and then put the money we have retained on a good coach for next season


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Marcus Camby
Last year
22:11 5 Jan 13

Reply #396482

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

@Spinner..

I am trying to put an argument across to not waste money on another coach when the season is done.

What is so idiotic about that?

The more money you spend on the payout x 2 then a new coach and assistant, the less there is next year.

Is that hard to follow?


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Isaac
Last year
22:11 5 Jan 13

Reply #396484

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Mutley, I actually wrote three paragraphs of a potential outro media conference statement for him, then the iPad refreshed when I switched back to the tab and I lost it.

To be honest, I think the coaches should ideally be replaced, but I don't like some of the hatred from fans towards Marty. It's not as though he's been lazy or malicious or dishonest. I'm pretty confident he's doing his best and what he thinks will work, but it simply isn't. Well, not consistently enough to have the success needed. Sure, he's probably stubborn, inflexible, humourless and maybe sees his players too positively when maybe they could be rebuked here and there. But he gave up a good gig, tried what he could and so be it.

Jake, you wouldn't say that even jokingly if you saw how my business was run!


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Isaac
Last year
22:15 5 Jan 13

Reply #396490

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Camby, x games ago, the season was far from lost. It'd be tough from here, but now mostly worth it to salvage some support from paying customers. Forget the "true fan" junk -- a fair portion of the potential crowd are far more fickle. And their $x/ ticket is worth just as much.

And yes, your five year remark in another post put you into troll territory.


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Mutley
Last year
22:16 5 Jan 13

Reply #396492

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Or keep Marty and finish the season 5-23. As that is what will happen.


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Bolter
Last year
22:24 5 Jan 13

Reply #396496

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

It is with great sadness yet wiTh some satisfaction that I enter this entry. I have watched SA crowds over the last 20 years or so through juniors nationals etc and one thing has always stood out. You are an ugly crowd ugly parents syndrome is what comes to mind and it is obvious it has carried on into your nbl crowd. You have the name. You are loud. You are arrogant. You are pathetic. Well you got your wish. You have bagged the shit out of your team forever and finally got what you deserve. You probably won't have a coach Team. Players or any one to bag next year so good luck to you. Everyone will move on and no doubt you will all move on to bag the nbl or some other team. Well get over your selves. You deserve what you get. You are losers with a capital l and good luck if you have a team next year in getting any one to play for you. Because no one will ever be good enough for you lot. You are the pits. Boooo to you. May you all rot in hell


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Anonymous
Last year
22:26 5 Jan 13

Reply #396498

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Thanks Mrs Clarke.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:28 5 Jan 13

Reply #396500

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

As long as DJ leaves I'm happy.

Rest of the roster we can keep with maybe Crosswell retiring and Cadee back to back up point guard.


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Speed44
Last year
22:29 5 Jan 13

Reply #396502

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

^ Early frontrunner for the "Dumbest Comment of the Year". Congratulations!

Especially this line: "You are losers with a capital l". - You can't teach this sort of comedic genius!


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Speed44
Last year
22:30 5 Jan 13

Reply #396503

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Whoops, meant Bolter's comment.


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Bolter
Last year
22:31 5 Jan 13

Reply #396504

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Ha ha you wish. @ anon. I'm with u


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Anonymous
Last year
22:31 5 Jan 13

Reply #396505

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Time for management to make the decision. If they are relluctant, In no financial position or prefer to simply honour a contract, to replace the coaches, then i would like to see them publicly backed by the club via press release or media or whatever.

If not, make the change now. Either way it is decision time.

Would be interesting to see if those few fans, who hoped for losses to mount pressure on marty, would of done so had they known he was not going to be replaced?


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Nate
Last year
22:37 5 Jan 13

Reply #396507

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Trying to find a boxscore for the game - kinda hard when according to the NBL website the latest news is that the Sixers lost to Breakers!!!


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Jack Toft
Last year
22:37 5 Jan 13

Reply #396508

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Great press release Isaac, a job in PR beckons


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Anonymous
Last year
22:38 5 Jan 13

Reply #396509

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Bolter- Uglier than your spelling, Grammar and punctuation?


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Speed44
Last year
22:38 5 Jan 13

Reply #396510

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

The boxscore is on the NBL website.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:53 5 Jan 13

Reply #396519

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Re Ben and little interest from 36er's

I know the family (from Williamstown) and I believe there was little interest despite him having the some of the best Aussie US college credentials ever.

Most people knew this country kid had talent when the smallish Faith School in the Barossa won the State Champs against the might of Unley High School and their Sturt stars and Ben was best in that game many moons ago.

30 points, 3 assists and 5 rebounds against the Sixers and he is still recovering from dislocated (again) shooting shoulder not long ago.

Heard a similar story with his younger sister Tess, Australian under 17 captain and little interest from the Lightning.

Youngest brother Jack is now in the US, came to notice when he scored 44 points in an ABA game against Forestville when he was 18.


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EC
Last year
22:56 5 Jan 13

Reply #396521

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

The fans have come to expect that this season is a lost cause and that nothing can save it now. They will be looking to next season for better results. They will come back next season knowing that the current coaches have been replaced. What is important now is to choose carefully the new head coach and with the right coach, hopefully the right players will play for the 36ers. It should be the top priority right now and current players need to know before they commit to next season. The height of frustration this season and the previous 2 will heighten the expectation of next season and fans will want to be a part of it. After all, despite the doom and gloom of the last 3e seasons, still around 4,000 people attend games.


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Gardsy
Last year
23:05 5 Jan 13

Reply #396527

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Hey Jack, how do Isaacs balls taste?


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Jack Toft
Last year
23:07 5 Jan 13

Reply #396528

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

better than your mother's


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Gardsy
Last year
23:17 5 Jan 13

Reply #396531

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

That doesn't explain why you have to wash Isaac's


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HoldenV8
Last year
23:19 5 Jan 13

Reply #396532

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

EC, from the look of last nights crowd it wasn't as high as the posted 3,997. Are they trying to say the arena was roughly half full? Didn't look like it was.


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anon
Last year
23:45 5 Jan 13

Reply #396537

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Isaac Ben Madgen playing great in Sydney, you dont really think he would be doing the same if he was in Adelaide. This is the home for breaking players, the lsit is endless and growing.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:14 6 Jan 13

Reply #396539

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Could potentially sign a cheap HC and demote Clarke to assistant, his pride & stubborness would see him walk I think.


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Loco
Last year
00:34 6 Jan 13

Reply #396543

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Clarke is killing this club.

Do something about it or there won't be one.


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Loco
Last year
00:44 6 Jan 13

Reply #396545

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Has anyone checked on Bolter? It's always awkward when a guy / girl goes off their meds and posts on the net. I mean, I know we joke around a lot on here, but that's the kinda personality that ends in a mass shooting.


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Loco
Last year
00:46 6 Jan 13

Reply #396546

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Also, why didn't Magden or Garlepp get any minutes here? It's a growing list of SA talent that we couldn't nurture.


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JA
Last year
00:52 6 Jan 13

Reply #396547

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

The sad thing is with a bit of smarter recruiting a couple of years ago we could have signed Madgen, Bruce for quite reasonable prices, Madgen would have signed as a minimum player for the kings as the 11th man im assuming, Bruce would have probably cost a bit more say 80-100k, if we had signed both for 3 years at the time we would have had them both for a combined around 140-150k, imagine that, if you divided the salary cap evenly accross the positions you essentially have 200k per position or 400k for the guards. So we would still have room for Gibson and/or an import or a solid aussie guard like Carter (another guy we should have kept)or Crosswell

Imagine if we had the brains to do this, which i for one wanted, Madgen came back after a huge college career at the same school/level as boomers like Barlow and Worthington, how we didnt snap him up straight away is beyond me,

We could have had a guard rotation of

SG Bruce (100k)/Madgen (50k)
PG Gibson or import (150k)/Carter or Cadee(100k)

Just imagine that as our backcourt rotation.

Sure Madgen would cost alot more to retain now, but if we had locked him in for 3 years in his rookie season along with the others i reckon those prices are fairly realistic, assuming 150k is about the max for a NBL player.

To me a starting backcourt of Cadee/Gibson doesnt cut it in the NBL right now, Cadee may get there and i was a fan of his signing but he isnt there yet, we need a good import starting with Gibson if we want to make a run at the playoffs.

I love Gibson and see Cadees potential, but if i had the choice right now between a combo of Bruce/Madgen or Gibson/Cadee im taking Bruce/Madgen even though Gibson is probably the best player out of them. If we had recruited better a few years ago we could realistically have all 4 of them in 36er singlets right now.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:26 6 Jan 13

Reply #396548

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Most sixers supporters/members like myself don't dislike Marty as a person and our anger isn't just solely directed towards him. Most of us are just frustrated by our once great club, which has been so poorly run over the past decade that it is no longer held in the same regard as what a team like Perth now is.

Over the past 5 years there has been absolutely no improvement both on and off the court and it gets to the point where enough is enough. Poor coaching choices have been made, little effort has been put into marketing the club, players have been treated poorly, coaches have been treated poorly, the stadium has remained untouched, in game entertainment is watered down at best and the club is now staring down the barrel of another wooden spoon.

Ultimately, a sporting club is a business and as such it's success is determined by positive results. Over the past five years the Sixers have not only lost more than 50% of their games, but they have played a very unentertaining brand of basketball and because of this the crowds have diminished.

Other posters who support other NBL clubs may think we are all whingers and horrible fans but in reality it's the opposite. Most of us long term fans have stuck by this team, paid our memberships, attended games, bought merchandise and entered into every season with our fingers crossed hoping that this year everything will fall into place once again. But time after time our hopes are deflated by poor on court results and rumours of poor management decisions from the front office.

The obvious catch phrase thrown around is "real fans stick by their team through thick and thin and always show support no matter what" and I totally agree. The problem is, if the sixers finish on the bottom again (with what most commentators labelled the deepest team in the league) there is a real chance the Sixers may disappear for good and I don't want that to happen. I love this team but changes need to be made.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:37 6 Jan 13

Reply #396549

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Loco,

Madgen could only train with the club in his year with the 36ers and not play as it would've made him ineligible to play in college.


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anon
Last year
08:48 6 Jan 13

Reply #396571

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

It would be great to have Madge in a 36ers uniform.
He is a credit to himself and SA. He was pretty much overlooked by every club, Sydney gave him 11th spot and he worked his way in. Got opportunity to play, started slowly but found coach who uses his strengths to teams advantage, Rest is history. Probably wouldn't have happened in Adelaide, be waiting in the corner to shoot the ball and end up on the bench.
In my opinion "sad but true"


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Isaac
Last year
10:09 6 Jan 13

Reply #396581

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Over the past 5 years there has been absolutely no improvement both on and off the court and it gets to the point where enough is enough. Poor coaching choices have been made, little effort has been put into marketing the club, players have been treated poorly, coaches have been treated poorly, the stadium has remained untouched, in game entertainment is watered down at best and the club is now staring down the barrel of another wooden spoon.
Smyth was given a chance to apply for the job, Ninnis was picked over him. When Ninnis was shifted on (off court issues), presumably a settlement was reached. Who was treated poorly? This isn't like Joyce getting ditched and then the club sinking to avoid his payment.

Players have been supported through injury. I don't think they've been wronged.

Stadium isn't owned by the club. What can they do? When has the club ever done anything about the venue? Nothing new to these last five years. (They have brought in two decent video screens. I appreciate those.)

Club have made a few efforts with TV commercials. Not superb, but they've improved a bit. Wasn't brilliant 5-10 years ago at all.

Not saying things couldn't be better (web site and social media are very poor, game nights are in decline, etc) but right now the on-court issues are a huge, huge part of the state of the club.


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Ando
Last year
10:23 6 Jan 13

Reply #396585

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

@548

I agree 100%. Every year I feel we are going to turn a corner and start heading towards be a major player in the finals again. Every year that feeling gets quashed.

We need a change but I feel that this season like the last 5 seasons is gone.

If we had Madgen for the last three seasons, do you really think he would have come on like he has? My feeling is we probably would have killed his career like all the other hopefuls that we have had. Ie Creek, Hill etc should have come on quicker than they had.


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EC
Last year
10:49 6 Jan 13

Reply #396597

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Agree with you Ando, the best thing Madgen did for himself was to stay away from Adelaide. Although Clarke lacks any ability as a game day coach, he was renowned for developing players. Current players who have had more than one season with him have gone backwards.


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Ben_madgen fan GO KINGS 9
Last year
10:55 6 Jan 13

Reply #396603

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

GOO KINGS


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Anonymous
Last year
10:58 6 Jan 13

Reply #396605

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Isaac I totally agree with you about how on court results are the most important component of any sporting club. If the team is losing regularly, than marketing and brand management is pretty difficult. I just think that the team's website isn't kept up to date, the social media side of things could be kicked up a notch, their could be more radio adverts, tv adverts etc. If they don't have the money I'm sure there would be many long time sixers supporters with marketing backgrounds that would do this stuff for free if it meant more fans coming through the gate each game.

With regards to the players and coaches being poorly treated I guess I was exaggerating a little, but the high turnover of players (both import and local) each season, the Julius Hodge fiasco, rumours of players not being paid on time and I have heard a few stories about Smyth being treated pretty poorly in his last couple of years. Not getting on that well with some staff, very few funds offered to him and many requests were turned down. I could be way off the mark and I obviously don't know the full story, but these are just the things we all hear and this can't portray the club in a professional manner.

And yes the Sixers have stuck by injured players over the years e.g. Herbert, Rogers, Maher for his last few years, Creek now, Devries, Ballinger. I do applaud them for that, but as you said it's all about the on court problems at the moment. Let's hope they improve quickly, and everything else just falls into place.


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Isaac
Last year
11:50 6 Jan 13

Reply #396620

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I think Madgen is the type that would've run with his opportunities wherever he was, and been too good to ignore. No matter the coach.


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eli1
Last year
11:58 6 Jan 13

Reply #396623

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Will MC please go to the board and recommend a replacement but stop short of where and who. Then see if the board get the hint. if not, i will give up on sacking (.)


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Marcus Camby
Last year
12:33 6 Jan 13

Reply #396634

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

@Isaac...

If the crowds are fickle, then I must question whether (in the event of a coaching change) they'd swarm to the 6'er games knowing the games have zero playoff chances?

Yes you may have a few 'knowledgable fans' come back to the fray but is it worth it?

Better that the board has the time to assess their options now and save the money for next year.

The five year comment was from Marty, which I used in jest.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:10 6 Jan 13

Reply #396646

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Camby -

Fans are fickle anywhere, really. Anwhere in the world, any sporting organisation and a simple pattern will tell you-

.crowds were up when winning
.crowds were down whilst loosing

( i am a believer in supporting always, don get me wrong )

Tremendous pressure is placed on a club like the 36 ers, when a season of high expectation is wasted.

Lost 8 games in row. New coach steps in, team starts to play better, crowds rise. Especially if it is a club icon( maher, smyth), but even if not, new coach could have major benifis to club even if finals fate is now irreversable.


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JA
Last year
13:20 6 Jan 13

Reply #396650

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Yea i agree Isaac re Madgen, thats why its soo frustrating to me that we didnt make him a good 3 year offer as soon as he returned from college, even before that, he was willing to take an 11th man spot for the kings, so it wouldnt have taken huge money, he came from the same college/level as Wortho and Barlow and put up amazing numbers so it would have been a fairly safe bet that he would do well in the NBL even if he didnt get to Boomers level.

I remember the year he was a 36ers development player i heard on interviews guys like Smyth, Farley raving about how good he was, Farley predicted he would be the next big thing in SA basketball from memory when asked who was the best young player he had seen training with the 36ers, which is why i took an interest in his college career which he put up amazing numbers, sure it was a Div2 school put his numbers were better than most aussies put up in any college d1 or d2. When he came back and played a few games for the Mavs i heard smyth maybe on kg and the general or something like that in the media talking about going and watching him and how good he thought he would have been, how do the 36ers just ignore this stuff and let yet another star SA player go elsewhere is beyond me, sure Smyth missed Ingles and Newley, but they only played a couple of years of NBL each then went to Europe to me missing Madgen is worse as he will likely play 10 years of NBL, and could have easily been in 36ers uniform if the coaches/club made a real effort to get him initially and i think it would have been a very good educated guess that he would turn out to be atleast a solid NBL player, even if you didnt predict this seasons form. His numbers at ABL level match up to guys like Hill, Bruce, Ng, so you could easily suggest he would be of similar level to them based on that aswell, Hill and Bruce are starters and Ng was a decent rotation player. Madgen also has good size for a sg, so i cant see what made the 36ers pass him up, even if we had offered him the 11th spot before the kings i reckon we would have had a fair shot of getting him and then he would have proven to be better than Ng, Hill, Herbert before to long and the rest would take care of itself.

Marty has done a good job bringing young talent to Adelaide in Creek, Johnson, Weigh, Cadee but possibly missed the best out of the lot in Madgen (Creek may surpass him but i dont think the others will, some would argue Johnson but imo Madgen is better and smarter player) and he is a SA boy who probably would have been cheaper to sign than the others in the first place.

I honestly beleive we could have had a back court rotation of Gibson or star import, Bruce, Madgen, Carter or Cadee had the coaches done a better job at looking after and recruiting/retaining some of these guys. How GOOD would that have been, we wouldnt be in the mess we are in now with those guys in our team even with the same coaches.

Our front court is fine for me, not perfect but we havnt had as many slip through the cracks or be let go, maybe we could have kept/got Hill, Holmes, Forman but the guys we have instead are just as good or better so not so worried, where Madgen and Bruce or Carter along with Gibson would be sooo much better than Gibson with Cadee and Crosswell and if we had a Gibson/Madgen starting guard rotation it wouldnt matter who was coaching, our team would be far better than what it is now, id almost guarantee we would be top 4 instead of the kings.

Its all in the past, but another poor selection/decision by the coaches, which is just made worse by there top young talent not being anything close, this was a large reason why Smyth got let go, so why does Marty not get the same and he has won far less games than Smyth did.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:32 6 Jan 13

Reply #396653

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Off topic -

Just a quick question for anyone who may know?

My Alias is supposed to be Master Chief, but seem to be posting as anonymous. Is this the same to all eyes?

Sorry.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:57 6 Jan 13

Reply #396655

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

We had to have a change in management years ago, & it was granted, but the Mal Hemmerling/Groves combination got the nod over our current crew (which was isaac's choice at the time).

Lock that in Eddie. ; )

We had to have a change in coaches too, & what's come of that? Subtle clue, a cliff dive in the 36ers' proud history. : (

Guys, you've been perennial whingers & had your way, perhaps it's time to garner some pride & STFU?


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JA
Last year
14:10 6 Jan 13

Reply #396656

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Am i being too simplistic in suggesting maybe as a general rule any Aussie returning from college avereging more than 5-10ppg at either d1 or d2 should be heavily targeted especially SA players and any SA player who leaves the AIS should be heavily targeted, if we had done that properly we would have had all of Ingles, Newley, Madgen come through our club, how much less painfull would have the last decade been.

Sure they wont all work out, but the ones that do, even not all superstars ala Madgen, Newley, Ingles, Forman, Holmes, Hill would more than make up for the few that wouldnt, i would guess there havent been too many SA players put up decent d1 or d2 college numbers or come straight out of the AIS and have not been decent at NBL level. These guys initially would not be overly expensive to recruit either so can be a good way to get a starting level talent for a lower wage, by taking a risk (educated at that) on good SA talent.

Our first years team under clarke could have easily been something like

C Schenscher/Forman (Forman wont actually play C, Ballinger would slide over for 10 mins a game)
PF Ballinger/Holmes
SF Hill/Herbert/(Creek)
SG Import guard (DeVries)/Ng/Madgen
PG Carter/Kersten/Daly (Bruce)

(Bruce and Creek waiting in the wings to come in as they did)

I basically blended the Fleet HSH team with guys who played for the sixers around that time for Ninnis or in Clarkes first team, picking up a couple of SA guys with college experience in Madgen and Kersten which is what i wanted them to do, i would have been happy to grab Schenscher instead of an import pg (Winder) and risk the weaker pg rotation, and just signed Forman instead of Johnson and i still reckon it would have been a better team and one that could reasonably easily been held together for a number of years.

Plenty of good talent and SA talent at that for the crowd to get behind and follow year after year.

Then you could just retain the bulk of them for the next 3 years and i guarantee things would have been better, you could even move Weigh and Johnson in for 2 of the forwards say Ballinger and Forman over the journey and we still would have a good core, but wouldnt be too fussed if we didnt get Weigh and Johnson and kept Ballinger and Forman either.

Some would say the PG rotation is a bit week, but Carter and Kersten (if he was still interested in playing NBL, another AIS/college returnee from SA) were good young prospects and proven to be ok with the support of a import guard imo, and if Madgen came through like he did and the pgs were struggling we could have got a more pure pg, we also had Bruce come in mid season which would have helped pgs as there are not many pg rotations better than bruce/Carter imo.

To me Clarke got too focussed in getting his guys from the AIS and imports who play his way and without flair and creativity, which usually means they are not match winnng/stud type imports, which isnt all bad, and has landed us some fairly good players, but has meant we have missed out on/lost good players especially Bruce and Madgen, both to me are top 4 Aussie guards in the NBL, how the 36ers dont go heavily after Madgen and not even really try to retain Bruce, i would have matched Sydneys offer or close to keep him, he would have been as good if not better than Warren our import anyway, Howard also would have been decent if we used him properly let him play with flair and freedom offensively like Farley used to for example, Winder, Warren a similar storey and DeVries just got injured (which is no ones fault).

All in all there have been a lot of things that could have done better in recruiting, and some of this goes back to previous coaches and management aswell, in isolation many decisions have not been shocking at the time, ie Ng for Madgen at the time didnt look like a bad decision it just hasnt worked out well, but i think we could have made room for both, and should have. The roster is still ok, its just the way they are used which is on the coaches and why sooo many are frustrated, even without thinking of the players we have missed out on/let go.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:23 6 Jan 13

Reply #396657

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Roster assembled is fine atm. Hope they keep this group for years to come.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:34 6 Jan 13

Reply #396658

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

3 Point Guards, 3 Centres in a team of 10. The team assembled now is not ok, there's too much of the same meaning we have gaps (a slashing scorer like Madgen is a good example).


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Anonymous
Last year
14:48 6 Jan 13

Reply #396660

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Gibson can be used as a combo guard. Would love a newley or athletic import in the 2 spot but teams seem happy having point guard heavy teams and running 2 at the same time.

Creek can be the slashing scorer. Petrie and johnson are versatile 4-5 men, so schenscher is the only TRUE centre in the team.

If newley became available and we could afford him, would attack him, obviously. But dont think big changes are needed. Would come at the exspense of christopherson, croswell and pero and maybe an unhappy cadee by mutual agreement.

Coaching change first, IMO. Talent and versatility shouldn't be the issue here. Pieces are there. Would hate, as a fan, to see massive player turnover again.


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Marcus Camby
Last year
14:50 6 Jan 13

Reply #396661

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

@Anon'646...

Yes Crowds like winning.

But will they like to attend games (even wins) with no chance of progression above 5th?

I think that 'fickleness' you spoke of will probably make them stay away regardless of who is coach.

This is now a good opportunity for Marty to utilise his development skillset and give more time to up and coming talent.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:14 6 Jan 13

Reply #396664

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Now is a good time for the management to grow some balls and give the coach the flick.

It isnt time for pussy footing around, it is time to start winning games if we have want any slim chance of playoff revival.


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Isaac
Last year
15:52 6 Jan 13

Reply #396677

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Master Chief, no, it's not showing up. Do you have "Master Chief" in the Name box before you post?


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Master Chief
Last year
16:35 6 Jan 13

Reply #396696

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Isaac - Chose that alias in the account settings but didn't insert it manually before each post. Is that required or just an idea to make it show?

Thanks.


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Master Chief
Last year
16:36 6 Jan 13

Reply #396697

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Yeah that obviously worked. Thanks again.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:49 6 Jan 13

Reply #396702

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

The End of an Era?

It has been quoted that Mr Simmons, Chairman of the 36ers... may very well have no choice but to relieve Marty Clarke of his duties should he not pick up a win, and with four games in just over a week and 2 of them against Townsville it was hardly and unreasonable request. However, here we are...late Saturday night and the team and Marty have managed to squander the best opportunity they may have this season in catching up with the play-off pack.

a 9 game losing streak I believe? or was it 8? either way, it spells for an intriguing 8 days leading to next Sundays clash against the Sydney Kings. Does the club keep Clarke in the interest of continuity or do they sack him, as the shake up that is needed and please many fans while doing so? I will be glued to this issue for the next week... as the ramifications of the decision made could echo for seasons to come.

Me personally, I think its time for the REAL shake up. Clarke's marching orders simply must be read, for the good of the team first and foremost. I do not have any issues personally with Clarke, could be the nicest guy in the world for all I know... but as coaches go, He has probably been a more successful player. CJ Massingale was the unlucky first head to roll when things were looking rough for the team, and his dismissal looks more unnecessary after every game, with Scott Christopherson clearly not looking the goods in this league. Sorry, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but he hasnt got the ability to shake a single player in this league when he moves, he needs alot of room to get a shot off, and offensively he can be easily contained.. Another flawed import decision by the coaching staff

My thoughts? I wouldnt be surprised to hear that Phil Smythe and Brett Maher are the new coaching team... and what a resounding relief and welcome move that would be to the fans. Phil Smythe's return has to be worth atleast a few hundred extra heads at the next game. Smythe is that respected, and Marty's follies are that renowned.


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Marcus Camby
Last year
17:52 6 Jan 13

Reply #396733

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I think Christopherson DOES have the ability to shake a few players in this league :

- Luke Schenchser.
- Daniel Johnson.
- Nathan Crosswell.
- Pero.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:29 6 Jan 13

Reply #396741

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Yeah, Crosswell looks like he's standing still trying to guard any fast player in the League, also does he have any sort of outside shot?

It appears that currently (Johnson is missing all his outside shots ATM) the only guys that have any chance of shooting from outside are Gibson and Weigh. Crosswell is left open consistently and does'nt take a shot.


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Master Chief
Last year
18:38 6 Jan 13

Reply #396745

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

741- That is why the offence is so terrible at times. Weigh passing to crosswell when it should be other way round. Seems to be the only guy finding open looks through plays but is not a shooter.

Croswell is a drive and dish/score player. Has hurt Adelaide many times in the past. Wouldn't dismiss him having an impact under better coaching either.


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Isaac
Last year
19:33 6 Jan 13

Reply #396767

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Chief, you enter it once and then it should remember it from that point.

36ers have two of the top five three point percentages right now - Weigh at #1 and Gibson at #3. Bit of a decline after Petrie though.


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Master Chief
Last year
19:41 6 Jan 13

Reply #396773

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Weigh needs to see more looks then IMO. I am a weigh fan.

Yeah thanks for ya help.


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Camel 31
Last year
20:33 6 Jan 13

Reply #396784

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

JA - Remember BA brought in a YAP Rule .
Young Australian Player under the age of 23 had to be in each teams ten . Ninnis signed Chris Molitor to comply. Returning College players were too old , so they made it under 24 . Clarke signed Daniel Johnson for 2 years as the nominated YAP , to comply , and for 2 years .
Later , this rule was scrapped .


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JA
Last year
20:40 6 Jan 13

Reply #396790

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Yea, my line up didnt consider that, but we could have atleast put most of it together, just take out one of the forwards and swap Johnson in to fill the YAP rule, the guard rotation was still possible, which is my biggest frustration,

i enjoy watching the kings play as im a fan of both Bruce and Madgen, but its frustrating as im like the 36ers could have easily had both of them with a import or Gibson, how much better would our team be with that guard rotation, even with the exact same forwards and centres as we have now.

the YAP rule was one thing that didnt help guys like Kersten from memory, didnt the sixers want him at one point but he was a month or 2 over the limit and they had filled the rest of the roster and ended up with Molitor to fill the YAP criteria?


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paul
Last year
20:49 6 Jan 13

Reply #396794

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

"36ers have two of the top five three point percentages right now - Weigh at #1 and Gibson at #3. Bit of a decline after Petrie though. "

The list on the NBL site is wrong, Weigh and Gibson are actually #5 and #7. That is still pretty good but as you say most of the team has dropped away badly since early in the season.


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paul
Last year
20:55 6 Jan 13

Reply #396795

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

^^ Rather than wrong I should say the list is poorly done. For some reason it doesnt count Grabau, Saville, R Martin and Ballinger who have all shot between 23 and 41 3pfga (and are making between 42 and 48%), definitely enough to be considered in the top five list.

Reminds me of classic commentary from Gaze (I think) who said three pointers werent Grabau's specialty. Yeah, he only hit 45% of them last season!


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Anonymous
Last year
23:03 6 Jan 13

Reply #396809

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

I think you only have to sack Marty the assistant will walk after that


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Jack Toft
Last year
00:15 7 Jan 13

Reply #396820

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

He wouldn't run?


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sunnycoast
Last year
10:19 7 Jan 13

Reply #396892

re: Kings v 36ers 05th Jan

Get rid of crosswell nobody even has to play D on his outside game clogs it up for everyone else


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