YouknowME
Years ago

Aussie World Uni Team

Hey, I see that Aussies Uni team is undefeated in the stankovic cup which is pretty good... however how does the stankovic cup competition compare with the world uni games?

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Vart  
Years ago

Pretty hard to say I reckon. None of the teams at Stankovic Cup are full strength, except the Chinese who are fielding two teams. A lot of eligible uni games players are likely at the under-19's right now, so the uni games teams won't necessarily be full strength either.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

there's no under 19s on, the Under 17s are in Prague.

The Stankovic Cup field is OK - a warm-up for the Uni Games squad which is basically young NBL players and College players.

In previous editions of the Uni games the Aussies have finished way back in the pack like 9-12. The competing Nations take it pretty seriously and Basketball Australia see it as part of the National team pathway.

FIBA used to have an Under 23 Worlds, but they scrapped it (2005 was the last one, Molloy coached it and they finished 4th without Bogut) - this is basically it, but at a sort of Under 23 Olympic Games.

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Vart  
Years ago

Anon^ ?????. The Under 19 World Championship is on in Prague, not the Under 17's. They were last year.

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

Anon - can you let FIBA know about the U19s not being on? You can probably find an email address for them on the U19 World Championships web site - http://prague2013.fiba.com/

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Made your point guys!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Start again. everything else is true!

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Mick  
Years ago

Can someone clarify the requirement for eligibility in the "university games"?

Some of these guys aren't at university...

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Vart  
Years ago

I'm pretty sure you only have to be doing some form (read any form) of higher education, be it university or tafe, regardless of whether you study full-time or part-time, to be eligible.

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Mick  
Years ago

Ah ok so what you are trying to say is that BA has signed Steindl, Norton, Blanchfield, Cadee and Odigie up to an introductory touch-typing course conducted via correspondence over the internet for one hour per week?

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Vart  
Years ago

Ha ha, possibly Mick!

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Vart  
Years ago

Here's something more 'official';

Australian University Sport (AUS) currently applies the following regulations when selecting representative teams to participate in FISU competitions:

a) FISU Regulations 5.2.1

Only the following may participate as competitors in a FISU Sporting Event:

i) Students who are currently enrolled and proceeding towards a diploma or higher at a university or similar institute whose status is recognised by the appropriate national academic authority of their country (e.g. the Australian Government Department of Education).

ii) Former students of the institutions mentioned in (i) who have completed their academic degree/diploma in the 12 months preceding the event. (Must provide copy of Graduation Certificate)

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Vart  
Years ago

So in other words, I have no idea how most of our guys have 'qualified' for this event.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

there was an article released last week in regards to eligibility for the Uni Games team:



QUESTIONS surrounding the student eligibility of several players in Basketball Australia's men's and women's teams for next month's World University Games in Russia have been allayed by one word - "leniency".

Australian University Sports chief executive officer Don Knapp yesterday said as long as a player had attended, was attending or was enrolled to attend any higher education institution, they were deemed eligible to compete at the WUG.

Australia's men's and women's teams include selections who have recently been enrolled at universities and not attended.

"We have to accept the submissions of national sporting organisations," Knapp said of BA's selected teams.

"But the rules for eligibility, by necessity, are very lenient.

"If you have just finished at any higher education institution such as TAFE, university, college, private college, you are eligible."

Knapp said a student athlete only needed to show they were enrolled to be accepted.

"Complicating this is online learning, for example," he said.

"And it's not uncommon in a Commonwealth Games or Olympic Games year for a student athlete to take six months off to compete.

"They would still be eligible for Uni Games."

When BA released its teams yesterday, with the exception of those players attending universities in the US, it did not specify which universities its players had or were attending.

"Participants attending the World University Games require approval from Australian University Sport who determine athletes' eligibility for the tournament based on registration with a university or equivalent program, among other criteria," BA said in a statement when challenged to provide the information.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why not cut the crap and just call it world u23 champs?

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Vart  
Years ago

Or the Under 28's! Ha ha;

To be considered for selection, an athlete must be at least 17 and less than 28 years of age as at 1st January 2013 (athletes born between 1984-1995).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why not cut the crap and just call it world u23 champs?
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only problem with that is that not all of our competitors would fit into the u23 either - 3 on the womens team are 24, and 1 on the mens team.

Look at the eligibility for the USA womens team (not sure if its the same for their mens side) for the World Uni Games and it includes born between 1 Jan 1986 and 31 Dec 1996, which allows them to be 27.

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Mick  
Years ago

As blatantly stupid as this is, it's as much an indictment on Aussie hoops for having all these young undeducated guys coming up through the ranks.

Compared to the american system where you get your degree, it's a pretty bad look, especially when you consider most guys are going to end up with short NBL careers at a relatively low salary.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How do we know none of these guys are doing some form of study, or did in the past 12 months? It's not exactly public knowledge, and they have obviously produced the paperwork to satisfy the criteria.

And you cant cut the crap and call it the U23s because the event is the World Uni Games! Think, people!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Australian Women's World University Games Team

Name / Height / Position / DOB / Team

Sara Blicavs / 188cm / Forward / 15 Feb 1993 / Bendigo Spirit (WNBL)

Natalie Burton / 194cm / Centre / 23 Mar 1989 / West Coast Waves (WNBL)

Stephanie Cumming / 178cm / Guard / 26 July 1990 / Townsville Fire (WNBL)

Katie-Rae Ebzery / 178cm / Guard / 8 January 1990 / Sydney Uni Flames (WNBL)

Alice Kunek / 187cm / Guard-Forward / 6 January 1991 / Bulleen Boomers (WNBL)

Emma Langford / 187cm / Forward / 29 Jan 1989 / Logan Thunder (WNBL)

Tessa Lavey / 170cm / Guard / 29 Mar 1993 / Bendigo Spirit (WNBL)

Tess Madgen / 180cm / Guard / 12 August 1990 / Bulleen Boomers (WNBL)

Lauren Mansfield / 170cm / Guard / 18 Dec 1989 / Adelaide Lightning (WNBL)

Olivia Thompson / 187cm / Forward / 20 Jan 1993 / Townsville Fire (WNBL)

Marianna Tolo / 196cm / Forward-Centre / 2 July 1989 / Aix-ene-Provence (France)

Australian Men’s World University Games and Stankovic Cup Team

Name / Height / Position / DOB / Team

Matthew Andronicos / 208cm / Forward-Centre / 24 December 1991 / Cairns Taipans (NBL)

Cameron Bairstow / 206cm / Forward / 7 Dec 1990 / University of New Mexico (USA)

Todd Blanchfield / 200cm / Guard-Forward / 11 July 1991 / Townsville Crocodiles (NBL)

Ryan Broekhoff / 201cm / Guard-Forward / 23 August 1990 / Valparaiso University (USA)

Jason Cadee / 186cm / Guard / 15 Apr 1991 / Adelaide 36ers (NBL)

Andrija Dumovic / 208cm / Forward-Centre / 18 Apr 1993 / BA National Centre of Excellence

Cody Ellis / 203cm / Forward / 24 Apr 1990 / Saint Louis University (USA)

Igor Hadziomerovic / 193cm / Guard / 1 January 1992 / Boise State University (USA)

Mitchell Norton / 180cm / Guard / 1 Apr 1993 / Townsville Crocodiles (NBL)

Owen Odigie / 196cm / Guard-Forward / 18 Jan 1993 / Melbourne Tigers (NBL)

Clinton Steindl / 201cm / Guard-Forward / 15 Mar 1989 / Cairns Taipans (NBL)

Mitchell Young / 206cm / Forward / 6 Aug 1990 / Cairns Taipans (NBL)

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The BA release last week which named the teams actually listed the place of study for those studying in the US. As mentioned a few posts back:

- Australia's men's and women's teams include selections who have recently been enrolled at universities and not attended.

"We have to accept the submissions of national sporting organisations," Knapp said of BA's selected teams.

"But the rules for eligibility, by necessity, are very lenient.

"If you have just finished at any higher education institution such as TAFE, university, college, private college, you are eligible."

Knapp said a student athlete only needed to show they were enrolled to be accepted. -

So how many that are attending have signed up to a tafe course of some sort in the previous few months with their only intention being to play for Aus at the World Uni Games and once the games are over they drop out of the course? As the rules say - they only have to be enrolled in a course, they don't actually have to be physically attending or participating in courses.

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Mick  
Years ago

Yeah so you can enroll in uni, drop about before the census date so you don't have to pay your hecs debt., and then voila you are eligible.

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Vart  
Years ago

There's nothing like twisting and weaving around the 'rules' for your own benefit. In this case, if it allows BA a genuine platform for the new 'Emerging Boomers' program to play on, then I'm all for it.

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