The position is called a referee as mentioned above. Little cred anywhere if you call then an umpire.

time of the year

BSA pays nothing.... and it's not easy work.

I have a lot of empathy for basketball referees. They make mistakes on court just like players and coaches do, yet when they do they cop a little more criticism.

They often pay their own way to games where they get paid only enough to cover fuel costs and a sandwich, yet they are expected to hold up their end of all our requirements and expectations of them.

They sacrifice as much as anyone who plays or coaches and what development do they get offered in return?

I am not saying they don't get any, I am saying what they recieve in assistance, support, personal development and the necessary training to cope with their position is inadequate and they are treated poorly compared to how they should be (IMHO).

I don't love them, nor do I hate them (often), but I do very much appreciate them and feel for them...

How much would an NBL calibre ref be on?
There should be some clear paths, education, development and promotion to this level which would make it a more attractive proposition.

To most it is probably a dead end job but knowing there is pathways to progress to the top national league and from there World Champs and Olympics would make it a little more attractive to some.

BSA refs do get paid. Facts please

of course not...

but it's a free world

vote with your feet or stay and suck it up

Let's get some facts here. Proper facts.

Pay rate for Panel Referee:

Social $14 per 45 minute time slot
Div 2 Seniors and Lower $17 per 80 minute time slot
Yl 1@2 $20 per 80 minute time slot

So for a referee doing D2 seniors which is the hardest competition outside of SBL equates to $12.75 per hour and $18.66 per hour for social ball.

The fact is referees are significantly underpaid to the point of ridiculous. It is not uncommon for a referee on a Monday night to do 1 game at 7pm, break at 8.20pm and 1 game at 9.40pm finishing at 11. When we add half hour travel each way that makes 6.30pm to 11.30pm, 5 hours for $34. A total of $6.80 per hour.

The comment of referees do it for money not fun is ignorant. Perhaps at social level, yes some do it for spare change, but at a district level it is about enjoyment and challenging themselves.

The issues now lie with the gaps that are being left open are being filled by referees well out of their depth, being pushed into games and given accreditations without warrant. Referees given their level 2 and 3 certificates that would barely pass old level 1 and 2 courses. This is done so gibbo can tick hubbards boxes of development, and when they submit their reports it all looks rosey and positive, when standards are getting worse, more experienced referees are leaving, politics getting out of control, and problems continuing to compound.

#504191

Thanks for quoting the figures

Reality is unless you take to BSA with a broom you will get the same rubbish - change nothing nothing changes

Last time I went to a basketball game it was under the control of a referee. Not sure what game you were at. Maybe you were playing spank the umpire?
You are so funny along with all your many anonymous posts.

So the OP is complaining about the one Umpire. Sorry. Clearly wrong. My error.

you guys are wrong about the fish too.

^ Do tell HO

Why is the head not responsible for the flailing tail that we see on a Thursday night - Div 1&2 get looked after most levels below are often Refereed by two umpires and one is often green shirt. There's often solo's and well you're telling me that the changes BSA made to court supervisors is an improvement? No umpiring knowledge required?

BSA has never spent money on improvement of junior referees,in last 5 years decline number of District referees nowadays because pay they get is ridiculus,its pocket money for them.Social pays more than Juniors and no pay rise for 7 years,while admission has gone up too.

Very sad case in a few years time ,district,clubs will be forced to supply referees(bsa rumour for next year).Lot of green shirters will be onboard,unlike the day where there was many good experienced referees have all gone.

why is it so....

http://www.brainstormwarning.org/2008/10/30/the-fish-rots-from-the-head

What's green shirter?

Green shirts are begginer referees mate.

Ah, yes the old theory that corruption begins at the top, sliced open by that article HO, well partially at least. A quote from it:

'Many elections invite voters to decide between two individuals, neither of whom possess the character or experience demanded to effectively lead a state or nation. Would you rather vote for the unqualified candidate wearing an elephant on his lapel pin or the unqualified candidate wearing a donkey on his lapel pin?'

I actually subscribe to this theory^, have never voted and probably never will, as I just can't decide between a flying elephant or a floating donkey!

Of course all officials can decide together that they are not willing to put up with such treatment can't they...

Form a union, start a strike and join the revolution, it has been done before in the history of the world, to varying effects of course!

Refs that are younger than the players on the court is an issue,

Even more of an issue is that some have only played a year of basketball before reffing ???

Most importantly - Where are all the adult refs..... the real reason we have kids reffing is adults no longer wish to gig cup their time.


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