Craig
Years ago

SBL Movers and Rumours

It's that time of year again,

Offseason,

Anyone know of who's going where in the State Basketball League for 2015.

I've heard Kyle Armour and Damien Scott are off Willeton to make up a beast backcourt. Ty Harrelson is an Australian Citizen so the Slammers can now go get 2 imports + Ty. Gonna be a great season next year I reckon.

Discuss

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Craig  
Years ago

Alright man lol

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Greeny  
Years ago

Corey Easley from Perry Lakes to Willetton
Ben Smith from Suns to Redbacks
Joel Questel from Suns to Wanneroo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dan Thomas from Mandurah to Geraldton

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Craig  
Years ago

Ben Smith, that's a good pick up for the Redbacks

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meggsie  
Years ago

jarred Jackson ( redbacks ) linked with the goldfields side.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mastrovich @ willo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Geez deep pockets at Willo this year

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meggsie  
Years ago

sorry Jackson to Mandurah

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C  
Years ago

Willo going all out Jesus

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jackson isnt leaving Redbacks

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C  
Years ago

Clive a Weeden re signed, Jackson is rumoured but no news there

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Shamus Ballantyne to Goldfields. Jarrad Jackson not going anywhere, was shown on Redbacks facebook page in preseason

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C  
Years ago

Is Shamua definitely going to the Goldfields?

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C  
Years ago

Shamus

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who do you think the contenders for next season are going to be?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yep Goldfields have announced it.

Willetton will move nicely up the ladder this year, not sure if Quinn is coming back or not, fingers crossed Dickson isnt!

If Gero keep the same squad with the addition of DT should be title favourites this year. If Roberts and Okoye come back Perth will be strong again.You never know about Rocko and what team you will get. Mandurah will take a big dive, and the usual suspects should find themselves struggling again unless they recruit big.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thanks Wolfpack, feel welcome to post any of that news here

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Greeny  
Years ago

Louis Timms to Wanneroo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is that happening Greeny? Poor Kalamunda jeez

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Greeny  
Years ago

What I'm hearing yes

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Greeny  
Years ago

Willetton women looking strong too.
Malpass, Hooper, Napier coming back, maybe Harper.

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Anon91  
Years ago

D Dialls back in the league... to Gero!

Chan and Holmes leave the Cougar Den for the Suns

Matacz out of retirement back up at the Wolfpack

Willo to add two imports to the lineup of Cody, Easley, AJ, Armour & Scott... Salary check please Mr Commissioner!?

Corey Craig to the Flames, with both Land's re-signed and expected to play as of Rd 1 and Chudier Pal due back around Week 9. Moore & Bowman to also postpone retirement thoughts for at least another year.

Della & Gerovich back to Cockburn

Prue to actually stay retired this time around!!

Albany potentially back in the league as of 2016

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Willo are gonna be crazy good if they mesh well, loaded with talent.

Would be good to see an Albany team in the league

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Greeny  
Years ago

What's the salary cap? Is it still 60,000?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Surely there has to be some restrictions around Willo signing the amount of players they have?

Darnell Dialls? Really? One of the worst imports I have seen in the league

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any Slammers or Suns rumours guys??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big Darnell baby

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Peter  
Years ago

Is Easley now an Aussie?
If not then Willo will only be able 1 x other import.

Darnel Dialls is a beast, fantastic pick up for Gero if true, just what they need.

What the hell is going on at Kalamunda??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Darnell is definitely what they need

Keep the rumours coming guys.

I

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meggsie  
Years ago

lauren Jeffers,to perry lakes , danika pisconeri to perry lakes once college finishes. waycott travelling.patton gone. slammers to sign 2 imports have already signed a 65"" centre looking for a American PG to replace Jeffers. zoe harper back ?Courtney hargraeves to flames
rintala gone back to USA wont play for suns,pickens not returning for the lightning,dunham not back for magic, Richards, payne, pass retired for cougars?
the one thing that may change the upcoming season is if Tomlinson and graham stay in WA , otherwise flames back to back.tigers r-up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rebecca Mercer back at Joondalup

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http://www.wolfpackbasketball.com.au/news/general_news/mercer_returns_to_lady_wolfpack/262

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Anonymous  
Years ago

With coach Warren Kuhn not returning to the sbl setup at Suns and the legendary don Jamison not able to take up the reigns, there is much unrest up at Suns. Ben Smith has returned to Perth, Joel Questel is most likely gone, Louis Timms is gone, forget Luke Nevill coming back and possibly a couple of others. Unfortunately the committees Warren Kuhn decision has hurt them big time!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

John Triscari will need some miracles up the hill if he is going to put out a competitive team!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Zoe Harper back at the Slammers? And what do you know about this 6'5 center import for them?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Harper is back with Willetton

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Anon91  
Years ago

Dialls all but a done deal at the Buccs (B Brown would be in the know out of anyone in the midwest!)

Unless TVL has left the 'Den' its hard to see RD or TG back their given their rather colourful history!

New Slammers import coming with impressive wraps... Southwest to have Four Americans in the starting lineup is ridiculous - yes a rule is a rule but pull the other one... seriously!!

Blacky reportedly offered Dennis Taiwhiti 'Double whatever Lackovic is paying you..." When it was discovered the polynesian powerhouse was doing it for the love of the game, A Black then pulled out an offer of $500 per week - makes you wonder how much the rest of the 'stars' are getting at Willo next year and just what sort of a message is it sending to their juniors coming through of trying to get an SBL Contract if they're just trying to buy a Championship!?

D Martin to join D Matacz and G Hire at the Wolfpack next season... Surely his ageing body and history of injuries has to pose some worries for the 'Cats heirarchy?!

M Utley to shock the league after recent successful Advanced Hair 'Yeah Yeah' therapy sees him now with some golden locks reminiscent of his pre-pubescent years, coincidentally the last time he had a full head of hair! Darren Whopper Russell still thinks it looks like a 'cheap rug that he bought from some dodgy Discount Store in Kwinana...'

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon, who's the new Slammers import mate?

I've heard about Voelkel, is there another one??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I've only heard about Brian Voelkel

Willetton look tough on paper if these rumours are true

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any news on the Mandurah Magic, haven't heard much from their about next season

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DH  
Years ago

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DH  
Years ago

If Cockburn have lost Scott Holmes and Chan , who is left Big financial problems so no imports .
Now have a new SBL director but too late they players have gone Will take them years to rebuild .
BWA are overseeing finances to try and keep the club going .

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NT  
Years ago

"Blacky reportedly offered Dennis Taiwhiti 'Double whatever Lackovic is paying you..." When it was discovered the polynesian powerhouse was doing it for the love of the game, A Black then pulled out an offer of $500 per week"

I like the guy but seems a bit of a stretch... much like Lakovic saying NBL teams were hunting him down too.. Seriously he had a great season with Reddies last year but 500 a week?!?!?!

However staying on the topic of centres, in a league where big men seem to be worth there weight in gold (and more in the above case), you would think Louis Timms is the biggest "free agent" in this offseason.. His 20pts and 10 rebs would be very handy for any club who can secure his services.

Quite a few departures for East Perth Eagles. Kyle to Willo while JT and Joe both set to retire. Kissilev and Nikola Donlagic also rumoured to be taking the year off while Sunday has ties to Perry Lakes. Would Jervis still want to play SBL? If true they will have a younger squad next season.

Same for Stirling with a few role players off the bench rumoured to be not returning. Also not bringing Corey Cooperwood back, but will have Jordan Wild return. Cody Ellis would have "restricted" status if he comes back next season, same as Jervis for Eagles last year.

Joel Q to Wanneroo is a done deal. But nothing yet solid on Louis Timms also making the move to Wanneroo but would have to be front runners.

Corey Easley is still classified as an import, so Willo could only get one more import. Get the right balance and that team is early favourites.

Ben Smith to Redbacks. So much firepower in its backcourt, makes you wonder why JJ would stay with the limited mins he is likely to get. But like Willo if they get the right balance and chemistry they will be very tough.

Early pick for top 4 would be WIllo, Perth, Wanneroo and Rockingham. Wooden spoon is a tie between Kalamunda and Cockburn.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Keep these rumours coming guys, and give word as to when they come official

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This import/American rule needs a real good review. How can you have four Americans in a lineup, I dont care who is naturalised blah blah blah.

Looking at all of the money that is being spent by Willo, nobody will want them to win a title. Buying a title is not earning a title.

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Peter  
Years ago

With Willo your adding Damo,Armour,AJ,Easley and an Import 5 man. Thats your likely starting 5 right there!

In 2010 they did a similar thing adding Ty Shaw,DJ,Tovey,Prince and Jones and that netted them a championship...
Worked last time, maze well try again.


I dont agree with Bunbury having 4 imports though, but again they are just playing by the rules. Agree that rule needs to change, Maybe the import needs to play 100 or 150 games for that club before he/she can be classified as a Aussie Import.

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Anon91  
Years ago

NT Wrote 'Early pick for top 4 would be Willo, Perth, Wanneroo and Rockingham.'

Surely Gero has to be in that Top 4... Same team that made it to the GF basically (Lewis, Cook, Ralphy & Wunders) with the confirmed addition of DT and the strong chance (As per conversation with Hez on the weekend at State Champs, email conversations between the Buccs and Dialls "have been promising...") that even without Dialls they'd have to be a certainty for Top 4 if not Top 2 given it is nigh on impossible to get a win up on their home court in front of the Midwest Maniacs that are the Buccs Supporter Base!

Early Prediction For Top 8

Gero - As discussed above
Willo - $$ will play a part here but will there be enough ball for everyone to get their 'numbers'?! Could self implode if Blacky isn't able to keep everyone happy...
Rocko - Same team as last year with the addition of Pal come June and Corey Craig back in a Flames uniform
Wolfpack - JQ is a nice pickup for them and Timms would make them very strong inside with the return of Matacz also.
Spiders - Should be strong again but need two solid imports again to push for a Top 4 spot
Slammers - 4 Yanks will always get you a Top 8 berth, but need more out of their locals if they are to make it past the Quarters... Refs also cracking down on how much Harrelson is allowed to talk to them during the game when he is on court too would be nice to see seeing he is given ALOT more leniency than any other coach around the League due to his playing role also!
Giants - Haney will bring aggression and passion back into the Kal club, something which is definitely needed. Will have a good first 6, but will definitely need to find something out of their young brigade to push for a Finals berth
Hawks - Despite Nixy's own self admission that he needs to 'get on a recruiting drive' the boys from Headquarters are always 'thereabouts' and expect the same next year. Rumors a wildcat or two could end up in the blue and white would not surprise either!

Best of the rest:

Lightning
Senators
Eagles
Magic
Cougars
Suns



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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hurry up next season already.....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers turning into the Wildcats with half the team from the U.S

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Greeny  
Years ago

Wanneroo women have added Edmondson
Willetton women added Louella Tomlinson
If you're a junior at these clubs looking for an sbl opportunity, may have to look elsewhere.
Looks like Rockingham, Willetton and Wanneroo are the teams to beat in the women, good luck to the rest.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well, Slammers have another American, import Tre Nichols

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http://www.wolfpackbasketball.com.au/news/general_news/wolfpack_welcomes65532_joel_questel/264

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http://www.wolfpackbasketball.com.au/news/general_news/wolfpack_welcomes_tall_fern_guard/263

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nice thanks Wolfpack Basketball

Apparently the Slammers women have a signed a 6'5 Center coming over with huge wraps but not certain

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Craig  
Years ago

Keep them coming guys, normally the time of year imports are announced. Post here if you here anything

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sarah Graham will be heading back to Brisbane for the offseason.

Lisa Wallbutton is also returning for the Tigers and there is talk that Marsh could also suit up again. Some pretty stacked line ups taking shape at Willetton!

Also, pretty sure Jervis has now played 150 SBL games and would no longer be a restricted player for the Eagles.

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Craig  
Years ago

The season needs to start

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Craig  
Years ago

Both Slammers imports set to arrive next month, I can't get over Willeton and their All star starting five, salary cap not existent or are these guys paying themselves?

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Peter  
Years ago

Craig,
I would be more worried about Bunbury having 4 x Imports then Willeton's new starting 5.

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Craig  
Years ago

Yeah you are right, I was referring to both of them. Where is the money coming from haha?

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Craig  
Years ago

Well Tre Nichols looks really good from game footage I've seen, I think the Aussie guards will struggle to keep him in front of them because of his quickness.

Hopefully he doesn't struggle too much with his inconsistent shot because he looks like an excitement machine

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone have anything else? Coaching changes?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah need more guys, keep posting even if you're not entirely sure, it's a rumours page

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well the Women Slammers have a new big, import Patricia Bright. 6'4 defensive machine, blocks shots, rebounds and scores consistently. Fills one of their import slots

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bennie Lewis is back for the Buccs, just arrived in the country

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Anonymous  
Years ago

2015 is finally here, let's get the season started, Blitz in under 2 months

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The league as a whole will be a lot tougher this season I think. Lots of high quality imports and players switching teams. Paul Hafford is back at Mandurah and they've also added Jarrod Jackson

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http://www.wolfpackbasketball.com.au/news/general_news/antonia_edmondson_joins_wolfpack_in_2015/267


Twitter & Instagram @WolfpackSBL

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialWolfpackBasketball

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http://www.wolfpackbasketball.com.au/news/general_news/wolfpack_welcomes_back_casey_lockwood/268

Twitter & Instagram @WolfpackSBL

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialWolfpackBasketball

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Go West New Zealand Wolfpack! :P

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good to see the Joondalup Tall Ferns in the league!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wolves women looking a good team on paper

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Anon551  
Years ago

Ephrem Davis from Joondalup to the Tigers.

Rumours of AJ to Tigers false.

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Anon91  
Years ago

Rumors re AJ NOT false... has been training with them, just trying to get out of a contract in NZ before 'officially' being unveiled is the word out of Willo.

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Anon551  
Years ago

AJ hasn't been to a single Tigers training, confirmed by signed players Burston and Cody. Not sure where you heard that from, average source

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Peter  
Years ago

On 10 December 2014, Majstrovich signed with the Southland Sharks for the 2015 New Zealand NBL season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Willetton women: Returning Marsh and Antonio, Napier, Malpass, Harper. Heard Louella Tomlinson is heading there too...jeeperz

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Trying to buy the title I see...

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Anon1  
Years ago

Or just win one within the salary cap that is available to every team. Didn't realise a cap meant you had to not use the extent of it...don't really agree with people who make that argument ^^ if you want to not spend all 60k or whatever it is, that's your loss

They've obviously elected to go with no 'imports' as all players have played in the SBL before. Armour is a Willetton player through juniors, Easley is essentially Australian having a wife and children here. Scott an Australian that would be stupid to stay at Cockburn. Davis a previous Tiger and Joondalup last season, is the only real import.

They're simply being smarter with spending instead of 2 unknown American names. Not to mention Alan Black being a big draw card.

Every girl on the women's team is ex Tigers except Tomlinson.

I'd be more concerned about how Mullenax, Hafford and Jackson are all getting paid at Mandurah when they posted some serious financial losses last year...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Month until the blitz, most teams have announced their new signings by this stage, still anything new, post on here!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Personally I would love to see John Dickson come back, purely for entertainment purposes and the chance to tell him how much of a flog he is numerous times during games like last season!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

MEEEEEEEE-OWWWWWW!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Meow baby

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anton Fimmano to Cockburn

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Sof  
Years ago

What's an Anton Fimmano?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Something keeping this thread going

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Vodka 52  
Years ago

Adrian Majstrovich confirmed at Willetton. Has attended all training sessions to date.

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Vodka 52  
Years ago

John Dickson also to make a much anticipated return as Corey Easely has been naturalised and an import spot has opened up

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Let the fun begin!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Anton officially moving to Cockburn?

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On The Bottle  
Years ago

Anton was in the Cockburn team playing at the weekend against Bunbury.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thoughts on the acquisition of Fimmano Cockburn fans?

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Anon  
Years ago

A shame that Dominic Cheek is out of Giants.
The guy can play but doesn't seem to make many good decisions...
McDonalds All-American in High School
Solid performance at Villanova
Then the wheels have fallen off:
- Skips Senior year to go to NBA, not drafted
- Drafted in NBA D League then cut
- Goes to Italy and then cut before playing
- Goes to Morocco and doesn't play a game
- Signs contract in UK and doesn't show
- Backs out of discussions for SBL 2014
- Not sure but appears to have backed out of contract with Giants for SBL 2015

and these are the reported activities...

I wonder if he will ever get a start on his pro career?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

lol at the John Dickson and AJ suggestions....

Both aren't even in the country.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cody Ellis to return to Senators. Is he a restricted player this time around?

http://www.stirlingsenators.com.au/latest-news-inner?newsid=NDA%3D

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I hope so, otherwise we may as well throw the rule book out the window!

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Anon  
Years ago

Although Cody is a good player, and at SBL level, probably a great player this will make Stirling a weaker team than last season.

Last season with 3 x import level players the Senators were a tough team when fully fit. This season (unless there are some surprises to come...) they are basically down an import level player.

Then with Throns going to college? will he be returning?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How did Anton play for Cockburn on the weekend?

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On The Bottle  
Years ago

Gee somebody is a big Anton fan, From where I was on another court he looked as if he had an impact, played a few good mins.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nah mate I actually can't stand Anton, not a good player I reckon, bit of a puss in the big moments, but he's still a local legend and wish the best for the bloke.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I wouldn't of thought Anton would not of had many big moments in his SBL career. But he is still very young. Cockburn boys seem to enjoy him being around.

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DH  
Years ago

Whose Anton

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hahahahaha lot of talk about he youngster

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Anonymous  
Years ago

True he hasn't had many big moments, he is simply a solid addition for Cockburn

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Hydra 23  
Years ago

Was over at garden city the other day bumped into AJ. Nice bloke, we had a good chat and he seems excited about the season ahead with the Tigers.

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Io 17  
Years ago

Who's Anton Fimmano

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Garden City Auckland? For the last time, the Tigers roster is set. I'm interested to see who people suggest the Tigers have next. Heard Lebron is making his way toWilletton, trying to negotiate his way out of Cleveland contract...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

AJ is in Willo mate

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Anonymous  
Years ago

AJ is doing individuals with my son down at willo really nice bloke can't wait to see him play

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nah those LeBron rumours aren't true I've heard similar things from my sources but all rumours have been squashed. Says he's content with life in the NBA and doesn't want to push his luck in the SBL

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Anonymous  
Years ago

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Michael Lay to Stirling

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meggsie  
Years ago

is josh garlepp playing for the hawks/ signed? I believe the goldfields based side have approached him .Emily fielding seen down at a big v club? her sister kate has signed with the Mandurah magic.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Kate Fielding confirmed?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kate Fielding seems to change sides a few times

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seeing as though the waves season hasnt ended yet i find it strange she would sign with a new club before season end

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meggsie  
Years ago

yes confirmed.

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meggsie  
Years ago

Edmondson, harper, Tomlinson, haven't they all signed with new clubs . isn't that even stranger considering its been spoken about on here for months. where they focusing on the waves prior or SBL.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Fjo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Willo won't make top 6 should of kept last years imports
Stirling are gone 3rd last
Obviously cockburn last suns 2nd last
Magic $85,000 injected into the club from "an unknown source"
Team to beat.... Gero
Top 8
Gero
Slammers
Flames
Redbacks
Magic
Lightning
Wolves
Eagles

Best of the rest
Kal
Willo
Hawks
Stirling
Daylight
Suns
Cougars

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Willo will definitely be tough, you can't deny them a top 8 spot. While I agree the chemistry is still yet to be determined, there will be games they'll win on pure talent alone!

Import-less eagles could have another inconsistent year depending on how many Jervis plays and could be in fear of missing out all together.

Rockingham and Perth will be tough with the Americans they have suiting up.

If Prue is retired then Lakeside won't make top 8.

Top 8
Geraldton
Rockingham
Willetton
Wanneroo
Perth
East Perth
Bunbury
Lakeside

Mandurah
Stirling
Kalgoorlie
Perry Lakes
Kalamunda
Cockburn


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Geraltons title to lose this year

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who are Geraldtons new recruits?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I know Bennie and Carter have returned but not sure about others

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Daniel Thomas back to Gero as well. Cant really go past them or Willo for the title. Rocko dont go deep enough, neither do East Perth. Joondalup will be smokeys again this year, as will Bunbury. Mandurah will take a big drop. Kalamunda, Kalgoorlie and Cockburn to fight out the spoon.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gero
Willo
Rocko
Slammers
Mandurah
Perth
East perth
Wolves or perry lakes (both could be top 4 teams IMO)

Rest

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Goldfields will be alot better than most think, i'd have them 7th or 8th

Top 8
Gero - what they lost with Shamus in assists, DT will make up for in Points. Bennie coming back as a restricted player after playing in Canada hurts their depth though not being able to bring in another import.
Wolves - Very impressive lineup up in the Northern Suburbs. Who starts out of Huntington & Timms?
Flames - Corey Craig added to a decent enough squad. Need their young guys in Roberts, Pal & Beard Boys to step up more to be a serious contender
Willo - Agreed all that talent has to gel eventually but aside from their 'big 6', will they have the depth to challenge deep into the season?
East Perth - Losses of Donlagic and Kisselev will definitely test their depth. When and how many does Jervis play determines how high they finish in the 8
South West - Three Americans will get you a finals berth every day of the year...
Lakeside - The powerhouse of the early 2000's enters the second season of the 'post-andy' era. Prue is going to be a massive loss as will the Sofoulis boys if neither suit up as reported...
Goldfields - Are handy enough to about #7... back end of road trips could be their undoing and they need to make Brookman St a formidable place to play in again.

Best of the Rest
Hawks - Tough gig for Nixy this year but could be the surprise packet
Redbacks - If Lackovic hasn't learnt how to play against a 2-3 zone, Perth will struggle again
Magic - $$ talks but probably even less depth than last season with no true point guard
Senators - Always pull off an upset or three but never do enough to look like contenders
Suns - Picked up two imports... will battle the Cougars for the Spoon
Cougars - Exodus and financially struggling... LONG year for the Cougar Den Faithful

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Anonymous  
Years ago

New coach in Mandurah could change things, IMO for the worse. Youngsters still very green, Jarrad Jackson wont contribute scoring wise so Mullenax and Hafford will need to step things up, if Mullenax can do anymore than he has for the past few years!

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Anon  
Years ago

Interesting to read that Bennie played in Canada and now is a restricted player. This will have a huge impact on the Buccs.
I guess we will get a better idea in the next couple of weeks but here are my thoughts for top 8:

1st) Redbacks
Contrary to the comment above, I think Nik knows how to beat a 2/3 zone but you also need the players to do it. Adding Ben Smith and a shooting import should give him the outside fire power.
Dennis is another year better.
Starters:
1) Wagner
2) Smith
3) Import
4) Dennis
5) Import

Solid bench - Prior, AJ, Kiwis

2nd) Bunbury
Really they have 4 americans in Ty, Clive, and the new imports. Add one of the Hickert boys and you have 5 x players with 4 years college experience.
Starters:
1)Ty
2)Import
3)Import
4)Hickert
5)Weeden

Solid Bench - Worthington, Weir, Hitchcock, and the two wily vets in Smith and Edwards

3rd) Mandurah
This team was hit by injury last season and not having a true PG really hurt them. Jackson will have a break out year this season and will make Smith, Mully, Hafford, Gerovich all better players...

Starters:
1) Jackson
2) Florance
3) Hafford
4) Smith
5) Mullenax

Solid Bench - Della brothers, Gerovich, McIlroy?

4th) Willetton
Addition of 4 new starters may take a while to gel but it depends on who they play in first 4-6 weeks.
Will be interesting to see how Kyle and Scott go together. Kyle is a scoring pg who has the ball a lot in his hands, although Scott can be a spot up shooter he to likes to have the ball.

Starters:
1) Kyle
2) Scott
3) Cody
4) Easely
5) Davis

Solid bench: Clarke, Reed, Nordhoek?

5th) Buccs
Not having that 3rd import level player will hurt them. I guess rumours of Dialls were just that, rumours?
DT will give them more production from PG but it adds another dominant personality into the mix...

Starters:
1) DT
2) Lewis
3) Ralph
4) Cook
5) Wundenburg

Bench: Wrensted then??? (any injuries will have big impact)

6th) Wolves
Ettridge would have recruited heavily and replaced any losses from last year with at least similar level players. Adding Questel and Timms, then rumours of Matacz making a return are big ins. All 3 are potential starters and I could easily see 2 of them having all-star type seasons.
Then is there an import or two coming...
If the SBL version of the splash brothers (Trian & Seb) continue last year form then they could easily be top 4... (I'm actually questioning whether they should move up now...)

Starters:
1) Questel
2) Trian
3) Seb
4) Timms
5) Huntington

Tough Bench: Matacz, Easther, Maxwell?, Perret, Wellsteed

7th) Flames
Having the stability of same squad will get them some early wins. Need some consistent scoring help for Cooper, so Godfrey and Remmers will have to step up. Both had some big games but were also quiet in other games. Need both to be consistently around 20ppg

Starters:
1) Taylor
2) Godfrey
3) Bowman?
4) Remmers
5) Cooper

Bench: Is Moore still playing? After much hype in juniors time for Roberts to step up

8th) Hawks
If Cassir is fit and their new imports are decent then they will win a fair share of games. Interesting that Nix went with new/untried imports. Could be a master move or make for a long season. Another year of experience for Dixon at PG should see him step up

Starters:
1) Dixon
2) Import
3) Cassir
4) Purser
5) Import

Bench: Garlepp (may start if import plays PG), not sure on others

9th) Eagles

As stated, how many games Jervis plays equals how many games Eagles win... A bit unknown roster at this stage but Forde would have recruited and continue to use his position at Wildcats to lure other clubs juniors. (Kyle, Vague...)

Starters:
1) Tupaea
2) Dech
3) Williamson
4) Vague
5) Jervis

Bench: ?

10th) Giants (Need imports to be studs and play all season. Have a lot of players come in this season so may take some time to adjust)
11th) Lightning (Need imports to be studs, will role plays like Jackson/Dixon step up?, is Prue 100% confirmed?)
12th) Senators (If rumour of Lay returning then they will move up ladder with Lay/Ellis/Import)
13th) Suns (may surprise people if imports are quality. Seva/Horn/Import/Holmes/Import not a bad lineup)
14th) Cougars (could have been top 4 if they kept roster together and added quality imports)


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Anonymous  
Years ago

New Slammers imports look the goods so I'm excited for the season to begin

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great summary of where each team stands.

I was told Cody Ellis will be a restricted player this season. Unless Lay is naturalised, then there's no room for another import at Stirling.

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Anon  
Years ago

Michael Lay would be classified as unrestricted so they would still be able to get an import plus Cody.
In fact, if you look at their FB site they have signed an import out of a small school.
Kyle Lindbergh from Dordt College. This is a NAIA Division 2 college, he was an All American in his senior year with approx 17ppg and 11rebs.

At 6'7" the Senators aren't looking that tall this coming season.

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Austin Bruton back at Stirling also.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Austin is a legend, Anyone know if the Slammers have any new recruits other than their imports?

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Peter  
Years ago

Slammers are clearly the team to beat this year.

I think most fail to realise the advantage that they are going to have in 2015.

People are commenting on what teams may or may not make finals based on having none/one or two imports.
Slammers are going to be running around with 4 American born imports.
Think about that advantage.

You give any team in the competition that luxury and im pretty sure they would be very dissapointed if they are not playing in the last game of the season.

Buccs - Depends if Bennie Lewis is restricted, if so that will bring them back down to the pack a touch but still very much a force.








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Anonymous  
Years ago

Peter, are you a fan of the Slammers and do you know anything else about their team in terms of players?

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Anon  
Years ago

The Slammers situation makes for a very interesting debate.

4 x American born players (was Clive born in US?), although meeting the restricted player policy it just doesn't seem right...

There are a lot of different ways to look at this situation and largely none are really right or wrong.

Slammers are probably looking at it from a view that they want to give themselves the best possible chance at success in a semi-professional league, possibly benefit from the improvement these players can drive with local players, hopefully drive some excitement and involvement in the basketball community etc

Others around the league are looking at it as possibly the Slammers bending the rules, stalling the development of local players, giving the Slammers an unfair advantage etc...

I don't see a problem with it but I do believe in situations like this BWA should work with the Slammers and make sure there is a development plan being followed so that it isn't a short term fix.

If there is not a plan in place then it isn't sustainable solution and Slammers may drop back to the results that they were experiencing a couple of years ago (winless seasons)

The only risk that hopefully doesn't eventuate is that all the other clubs go with a Wildcats model... Source players from all over that place that have some slim claim to being unrestricted at the expense of developing young local players...

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Peter  
Years ago

No was just commenting on what ive read on here.

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Bob  
Years ago

while I don't agree with what the slammers have done, you have to realise they don't have the luxury of recruiting from other clubs, ie what Willeton have done done this year. So if your going to have a go at the slammers have a go at willeton for stunting junior development.

Ty is clearly going all out for a championship. Either way if they win it or not, they will be in trouble in the coming years. Locals won't be happy playing behind 4 imports and will stop playing. There is also a lack of juniors in the sbl squad.

Clive was born in the USA, but has an australian parent.

Also news out of bunbury is josh weir is out for a season with acl. Leaving their guard stocks incredibly thin with just Harrelson, import Hitchcock and Phillips.

Likes every team injuries and continuity will be the key to winning the championship.

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bored  
Years ago

http://www.sblonline.net/forum/

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Anon  
Years ago

Thanks Bored, looks like Bennie is still unrestricted based on the new import?

Bob, good points and I agree to most of what you have said.

Although, with the money Slammers have spent on the imports/naturalised players, they could have attracted local talent from other clubs. They proved it a couple of years ago in the WSBL program where they were able to get Zoe Harper and a couple of others players from other clubs.

The Willetton direction is interesting. Last year they lost a lot of games but appeared to be building on a largely Willetton junior platform. Would this have resulted in success in future years? it is hard to tell as they have gone in a different direction this year by recruiting 2 x players from other clubs (Kyle and Scott) to come in and be their main guys. Scott obviously a Cockburn player and Kyle now a journeyman in SBL as he is essentially with his 4th club... Willo x 2, Eagles, Lightning...

Does this approach stunt the development of players like Clarke, Reed, Cody, Nordhoek, Black etc???

Take Cockburn as well. Last year went with 1 import (if you can call him that...) and got a lot of valuable time and experience into their juniors. If you have Seva, Van Lit, Scott, Field, Vague, and Holmes. Then add 2 x quality imports and you are a championship contender.

But they all left and the Cougars will really struggle this year.

What will their approach be going forward? Develop Vinci, Kamara and Co?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where has Gavin Field gone too?

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Anon  
Years ago

Field and Van Lit still there...
Scott, Vague, Seva, Holmes gone

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A couple of ambitious moves there.
Scott and Vaugue I can understand with the NBL links at the clubs there gone too, but the other 2 must be for more court time / Money ?

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Anon  
Years ago

guaranteed Scott is getting paid and fair enough.
Not sure if Seva and Holmes will get more opportunity with Suns as they are getting 2 x imports... Might have been better staying at Cockburn.
Not sure if Asst coach at Wildcats should be recruiting DP players that other clubs have help develop? Didn't really do Armour's NBL chances any good going to Eagles, although they won championship and he got an all-star...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

blah blah blah - its in the rules so get over it. If Bunbury want 4 Americans and be competitive so let them - they have been bad for so long its better this way. If Bennie Lewis is unrestricted and they can have 2 more imports in Geraldton then great! makes the team more popular up there. Corey Easley and Michael Lay have been here long enough that they should be unrestricted too.

Then on the flip side you can't get your nose all bent out of shape if local kids don't want to play behind the imports. If they are coming off the bench behind imports and decide they want to move to another club were they can get a chance quality minutes then thats the clubs fault for not looking after them in the first place. Loyalty only goes so far.



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aqauman  
Years ago

Although young kids have to play behind imports, i dont see that as an issue. As a young lad i always had to play behind SBL legends or imports, i invited that challenge and it made me a far better player than I was going to be. Kids now automatically look for an easy way out and don't realise that they ruin the learning curve of their Basketball.

If your playing behind an Import, don't run away, stick it out, play harder and better and make it so a coach cant just sit you down. Too many times do we complain about this and its pathetic. Play harder and improve your game. How much time do you spend after school playing???? How much time do you put in at the gym???? if your not playing everyday after school then sorry you aren't working hard enough, plain and simple. Don't give me I have too much work, school work, family trouble BLAH BLAH BLAH just suck it up and play.

As for imports and restrictions, i say the more the merrier. Whatever makes this league more interesting and more competitive, then how can you hate on that? Bennie will be non restricted as he never gained a contract for the Canadian Team. So Gero have signed another import along with Carter and Bennie. This will provide Gero with a much needed boost. Adding in DT and now Gero will have a deeper bench than ever before. Figuring out starters will be interesting.

Lakeside seem to have two good imports again but of course its so hard to comment as High light videos are so well made these days, you just never know. Bunbury are loaded with Yanks and in all honesty GOOD!!! They need to be competitive and it provides the league with some exciting basketball.

Not all teams can be like Waneroo and East Perth and just take Wildcats guys because the coaches also coach there or because they live North of the River and have ties there. Wildcats have told certain players that its a good idea to move to East Perth as they get to still train with a wildcats coach so to speak.

Good on them, thats what they want to do so be it. Cockburn have lost loads of young talent to Money and promises and you know what, so be it. Cockburn have lost so much talent in the past recent years due to financial instability and also some issues with staff there.

Perth redbacks will be tough again as usual, still have Wags and seem to have found a gem in Turner. What else is around who knows. Rocko have Land boys back which is good for stability and they get the leagues dirtiest?floppiest player and the leagues MVP back at the same time. Willo are stacked on the starting 5 side but bench wise who knows right now. Im sure with Blacky there they will play hard and dirty and he will sort out enough balls for them all. They will base a lot of scoring around Kyle and Damo and it will be a fun team to watch.
Magic will have a similar team and will rely hevily on Mullenax and Hafford for scoring along with Ben Smith.


Waneroo
Gero
Perth
Bunbury
Willo
Magic
Eagles
Rocko




Top 8 in no particular order and can throw in stirling for a possible sneak peek in the 8 who drops out i do not know.

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Anon  
Years ago

Anon 254, I don't think that there are anyone getting their nose out of joint, apart from maybe you. What I see above is discussion on the different approaches clubs have taken and some thoughts on how the restricted player policy is working.

aqauman, some great insights. I guess it all depends on your situation. Usually an import player would play 40 mins a game so if you are playing behind one you are probably lucky to get double figure minutes (if you are good enough the coach should find some minutes for you...)
A lot of times it is simply the opportunity of minutes that can see a player go from bench warmer to solid contributer... A great example is Josh Throns, he appeared to come from nowhere when he moved over to Stirling and had a couple of great seasons.

My only comment on teams having more import level players is that I hope the clubs have a long term plan. Nothing worse than seeing a club bounce from one end of the standings to the other based on how much they can spend on players from year to year...

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Anon  
Years ago

Wolves just went to championship favourites...

PG - Questel/Ironmonger
SG - Trian/Maxwell
SF - Seb/Wellsteed
PF - Huntinton/Easther
C - Kevin Davis/Timms

If the above is their confirmed roster then that would be about as strong a team as we have seen in the SBL for a long time.

Anyone know if Maxwell is playing?

Plus you add the experience of Ettridge and this is the team to beat.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where is Wildcats DP Anthony Fisher playing?

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Anon  
Years ago

Wildcats DP should give you enough info

East Perth

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bored  
Years ago

Not quite sure how that signing fits into Wolves team. They have a pretty good front court rotation with Huntington, Timms and Matacz already. Add in another big rebounding body, hopefully Timms doesn't lose any minutes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It does seem to be a bit strange yes, I would have thought a solid 2/3 would be more beneficial for them

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cockburn have signed a 6'4" combo guard Najee Lane out of Clark Atlanta (ncaa d2) on a working visa. He was conference player of the year not sure what year. Hopefully he can fill some of the void left by Scott

Returning is Sheldon McIntyre after a few year off on an extended honeymoon. Also grant Davey may be returning after overcoming some knee problems last year.
The word is a possibility of another big import on another working visa.

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Anon  
Years ago

Did hear that Timms might be having some surgery on an ankle so maybe this is the contingency plan...

Great to see Cockburn looking at some import players to help. Hopefully the guys come across and help them be competitive.

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bored  
Years ago

Mmm did hear that about Timms. Long time to be out for an ankle. Shame

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Heard 6-8 weeks for Timms. Either way, Joondalup will be tough.

Bit confused though, Timms and Questel come over from Suns, similar to Scott and Easley to Tigers. Wolves get import Davis and Tigers get import Davis.

Armor is essentially a Willetton returning player.

How come Willetton are getting roasted about not supporting Juniors when Wanneroo has just done the exact same thing, and are getting praised for it... -.-

I think everyone needs to just understand that its the SBL and ya'll can do what you want to do in order to win a chip. If you want to talk about Juniors, maybe look at WABL performances...pretty sure Willetton do alright in that league.

End. Rant.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Aqauman said "Rocko have ...and they get the leagues dirtiest?floppiest player"

I didn't know Jo Alan had left the Eagles...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This ^ haha

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers roster
P.G Nichols, Phillips, Canzirri
S.G Harrelson, Hitchcock
S.F Voelkel, Weir
P.F Worthington, Hickert, Edwards
C. Weeden, J.Smith, Keller

Should be the lineup if all fit, question mark over Weir and his knee and Edwards even playing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

1st) Wolves
These guys have always been in contention of a top 4 season, with their homegrown talent of Iliadis, Salinas, Huntington etc. Add Timms, Questel and import Davis, tough team. Note the injury of Timms though.

Starters:
1) Questel
2) Trian
3) Seb
4) Davis
5) Huntington/Timms

2nd) Bunbury
4 Americans, could quite easily go minor premiers. Just have to gel. Did hear talk about the SBL clamping down on Player coaches...not sure what the situation is..

Starters:
1) Nichols
2) Harrelson
3) Voelkel
4) Worthington
5) Weeden

3rd) Willetton
Pure offence from Scott and Armor, Cody will be fun to watch after Wildcats DP. Easely and Davis will have to grab rebounds, something that killed them last year.
I think these guys will be very fun to watch, very fast paced too...

Starters:
1) Armor
2) Scott
3) Cody
4) Easely
5) Davis

4th) Geraldton
You don't go from minor premiers to out of the top 4 with the same squad. These guys are probably one of the only teams similar to the 2014 squad which will help early. If Blankson stuck around last year they probably would of got the win in the GF but it'll be interesting to see whose their import/ if they get one..

Starters:
1) DT/Import?
2) Lewis
3) Ralph
4) Cook
5) Wundenburg

5th) Mandurah
Somehow...these guys are still kickin. Finincial trouble hasn't stopped them from acquiring Mullenax, Hafford and recruiting Jarrad Jackson from Perth. Jackson is a pure PG, watch his minutes and assist numbers take a jump. Always tough Mandurah.

Starters:
1) Jackson
2) Florance
3) Hafford
4) Smith
5) Mullenax

6th/7th/8th:

Call me stupid, but I really think Perry Lakes can make a push into the 8. Cassir always dominant as is Purser. Dixon back from DP at Townsville. 2 imports, centre looks like a bit of a dud but the guard is good. Then again we all know what Josh Smith thinks of basketball players with dreadlocks.

Perth Redbacks, depending on their imports. Okoye was an absolute beast last year, fun to watch, but they will need some depth this year. Jackson (Magic) and Nelson(College) gone as back up PG's, Wagner will have his work cut out for him.

Rockingham had a have decent season last year and they also have a seemingly unchanged squad. They'll be good early, but it looks like they're getting left behind.

9th/10th/11th/12th.

Stirling lost Wild(beast) and I think Throns to college, so they look a bit shaky. Plus their import looks average. Rumours of Lay coming back would help them a lot, plus surely hes naturalised now.

Eagles are probably around here in the field. Depends on Jervis and how well Dech/Muo play. They had a dreadful end to the season, lost confidence or something. Armor and Tupaea gone but surely Forde has some tricks up his sleeve.

Lakeside and Goldfields really depend on how their imports fair. Both powerhouses of the league in years past, but the Andy era is over at Lakeside and Goldfields isn't the dreaded roadtrip anymore.

Rock Bottom.
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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wanneroo, Willettton and Geraldton are my top 3

Think the Slammers are being overrated, not enough bench depth for me and I think they will struggle early finding the right combinations

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"These guys have always been in contention of a top 4 season, with their homegrown talent of Iliadis, Salinas, Huntington "

Well not quite, they were all grown just down the road at Stirling.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yea should read recently Joondalup faithful *

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wolves don't have one home grown in their best six. Something wrong up there.
Very difficult for Bunbury to nurture young talent when they leave town to work or study. Lost another one to PLH this year.
Willeton imported a lot of good players in 2010, won it and then spent the next four years in the s bend.
What does J Smith think? And who is he? Will I need to get a hair cut?
Tupaea will play.
Goldfields may be the only other team without a home grown starter. You can understand it with a Kalgoorlie based club and small catchment.


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon, who did Bunbury lose to Perry Lakes??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/528002412703801344

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sorry, don't know his name - maybe Ryan ..
Hawks also have a guy who played for Goldfields last year.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Miles Tierney is the former Giants player now at the Hawks.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Giants...

Key Losses:
Matt Leske (retired)
Duran Blue (import)
Tommy Hannon (import)
Miles Tierney (Hawks)
Adrian Majstrovich (Tigers? NZ?)

Key Gains:
Jacob Holmen (import)
Jay Bowie (import)
Shamus Ballantyne (Buccs)
Ed Zunic (Melbourne Tigers)
Brandon Holloway (Caboolture Suns)
Daniel Forlano (Rockingham Flames)
AJ Lydiat (Wolves)

Staying:
Lordan Franich
Mike Excel
Russell Hurst
Lewis Mann
John Santia

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Giants don't look half bad with that lineup ^^^

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Blitz fixtures have just come out on the SBL website.....finally!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thanks for the info on J Smith. Seems to be the NBA's #1 turd.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who will be going to the blitz?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big season coming up

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm going to the blitz

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yeah im going

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who's your team?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How many people are normally at the Blitz?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Im going to blitz

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Going to the blitz. My team is usually Cockburn but Willetton this year

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commish  
Years ago

Lakeside

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Has Prue definitely retired?

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SP  
Years ago

Prue will play this season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tigers for looking solid for me

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Anonymous  
Years ago

re anon at 11:52 23 Feb 15, are you damien scott?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lol Haha, maybe just following his boy, probably a Cavs fan as well I'm guessing???? I'm officially off to the Blitz

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Anonymous  
Years ago

re anon 16:39 23 Feb 15 ... lel

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Anonymous  
Years ago

All Wildcats DP players out of the blitz.

Scott
Timms (injured anyway)
Vague
Cody
Dech?

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Seva Chan getting paid.... that is incredible.

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Peter  
Years ago

I very much doubt Seva would be getting paid.
Would say he went for more minutes and possible starting spot..
Which he may have had a Cougars this season anyway...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kate Fielding back at Slammers along with two imports.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kate back at the Slammers???? Whoa, nice, they are building a pretty nice team with also two imports

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Puts to rest the confirmation up above that she signed with Mandurah

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can someone prove she's playing for the Slammers?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

She has relocated there for work, makes more sense than playing for Mandurah!

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Anon  
Years ago

Would be great if a couple of people going to the Blitz could give a brief recap on what they see...

It is always an interesting tournament. Coaches trying not to give to much away but still trying different things.
Players out due to other commitments or injury.

I think it would be better if the tournament went back to having a winner/finals so that there was a bit more to play for.

At the moment it is not that helpful as you never know what team you will get to face. A full SBL roster or a team of young U20/D League players...

Maybe this could be the All-Star type event that everybody would like to see. Why not have a 3pt comp with every club having to enter a player, and a dunk comp maybe with a voting system to see who competes...

I know I would have liked to see Bennie Lewis v Stan Oyoke v John Dickson in dunk comp

And Quinn McDowell v Trian in 3 pt comp...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I could think of a few better shooters than Trian to go in a 3pt contest

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Anon  
Years ago

Obviously just an example...

If you can think of a few why not name them???

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bored  
Years ago

Austin Bruton
Kyle Armour
Brad Jackson
Ben Smith
Joel Questel

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Anon  
Years ago

Yep all good shooters, hence the suggestion of a 3pt shootout.

Would be interesting to see who would perform under the pressure.

I'm sure it would be quite easy to get some prize money or donation for this.

I would probably rather watch the 3pt shoot out than the Blitz games...

Who would each team enter?
Buccs - Ralph or Lewis
Tigers - Armour or Scott
Redbacks - Ben Smith or JP
Senators - Bruton
Wolves - Trian or Seb
Giants - ?
Magic - Gerovich or Ben Smith
Cougars - Field
Lakeside - Jackson
Eagles - Williamson
Flames - Land
Slammers - Ty
Hawks - ?
Suns - Horn

Could be fun...

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DH  
Years ago

if there was prize money, a decent amount, that would make it very interesting.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Adrian Majstrovich has just been cleared to the Southland Sharks (NZ) so that puts to rest the rumour of him suiting up with Willetton.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Interestingly it was first mentioned on their Facebook page in early December.

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KingJames  
Years ago

What is Adrian Majstrovich like these days? I am surprised he is not in the NBL anymore.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can still shoot the lights out and posts up/rebounds well, too old and slow for the NBL nowadays

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Anonymous  
Years ago

New Redbacks import looks like a bit of a beast. Not as beast as Okoye, but that guy was a Silverback.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

In case people were doubting Fielding to Slammers - https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/regional/south-west/a/26457999/homegrown-talents-add-to-slammers-title-push/

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers have no depth, they will play a 8 man rotation or they will be exposed by better teams. Got a great starting lineup and 3 solid bench players but nothing after that.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^^thats more than what could be said for some NBA teams... Id love it if my team had +8 solid players

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone attending the blitz, please posts result/thoughts etc for those who can't make it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joondalup women beat Hawks by about 10. Rocko men beat Senators (?) State U/18s were close to Mandurah, not sure at the finish. Willeton men beat Hawks by 10. Suns imports are athletic. Suns getting away from Eagles who looked undermanned with only seven players. Many imports and established players not on court.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redbacks import confirmed a beast, couple of dunks.
Tigers looked predictably good, no Cody in their lineup
Suns actually didn't look terrible

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Annoyed  
Years ago

Why would bwa bother having blitz website and not update scores?

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Greeny  
Years ago

Reply #518278
re: SBL Movers and Rumours
Why would bwa bother having blitz website and not update scores?

Was thinking exactly the same thing, may have the results up before next years Blitz.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Posted on SBL Forum.

Well done BWA, SBL. Your updated scores are terrific. If we wait another 36 hours it will be as good a the WABL scores updates. And please don't tell us it's about people working weekends. If that's a problem they should work in a bank, not a sporting organization.

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Anon  
Years ago

I think it is more about the people who are running/working at bwa...

I have no doubt they ran those crap point of emphasis meetings all weekend and probably wasted money on a website for the blitz and then can't even update scores.

It is pity as a lot of the clubs are putting big efforts into making there teams as professional as possible and the quality of players has never been better, then u have bwa who are running the league like a county bush league.

With the popularity of the Wildcats right now, bwa should be cashing in and be able to generate corporate support for league.

Did mr rick smith manage to make it to the blitz yet this year?

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Greeny  
Years ago

I thought that's why we went to computerised scoring so scores could go up quickly, no score updates on Twitter or Facebook either.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Last season the SBL was paying a local sports writer to do their web content and social media. It wasn't great, but it was something. Do they have him/anyone else in place for this season?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Was up at the Blitz and have a few thoughts (please everyone else share as well)

Willetton went 4-0 and doubled their opponents score in most games. They have so much talent and if they were going to be in trouble, it was going to be early. Clearly didn't happen.

SW Slammers also went 4-0, they have a dynamo PG Tre Nichols who is an offensive beast and a defensive minded juggernaut in a Brian Voelkel. Ty played about 5 minutes over the whole weekend and played a couple of young kids. Look dangerous without blowing anyone away.

Kalamunda were the surprise packet also going 4-0. Import is a beast and they look to have a fairly deep bench. Admittedly played a couple of weaker teams who weren't at full strength but no one predicted this from the Suns.


Teams that struggled included Geraldton who couldn't get in any sort of groove at all. Went 0-4 with their new import providing great dunks in the warmup but didn't do a lot in the games. Jesus Carter is a big boy now, enjoyed the offseason it would seem.

All in all a pretty enjoyable weekend watching the games.

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

@Peter - Seva Chan definitely getting paid. Not a rumour.

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bored  
Years ago

If you check the results you'll see willo only blew one team out. I didn't get to watch every team but Wolves looked to be the strongest.

Slammers did look tough but as always might struggle a little bit with depth.

Mandurah won every game, should be decent again. Mullenax looked a little out of shape.

Speaking of out of shape, Carter Cook looks like he ate all the money Geraldton had for a good second import.

Rockingham flying under the radar again, pretty much the same team that had them finish second and adding in c craig.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tiger's did win quite convincingly in 3 of their games. Blitz games are about half a SBL game, so their wins of 10, 17 and 36 are really blowouts.

Wolves looked v strong, and Suns import is a gun. Very athletic.

Didnt rate the Redbacks import. Looked like a ball hog.

Really the blitz reflected a lot of people predicitons here, but Suns are definitely not cellar dwellers this season. Sorry Cockburn.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cockburn still has an import to come in, will take the load off Field in scoring

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Looked as if Suns went with there full squad over the weekend maybe missing one or two role players.
Cockburn still has 2 imports and a couple of old boys to add might not be that bad either.
It looked in some cases that you either went full tilt I.e Willo or you went the deveopment route I.e Cougars either way its still only a pre season tournament. Each team has there own agenda.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

From what I saw, Cockburn was a lot more developmental than anything (like a lot of other teams), bit harsh to write them off this early.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cockburn was giving their young kids a chance during the blitz. Especially against willo who were pretty much full strength, where Cockburn had no one over the age of like 22.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Willetton full strength? They were missing 2 of their starters in Scott and Cody when they versed Cockburn and still won by 40?!

Admittedly Cockburn where short handed and blitz isn't anything to go by, but missing scott, vague and chan will take its toll. Imports can only do so much, take the 2014 tigers for example. Two top 5 scorers and they were terrible.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

East Perth didn't play any of the following players in the blitz, but they have the following - Tom Jervis, Stefano Simeoli (Import), Rhys Vague, Sunday Dech and Anthony Fisher. Along with Joe Alan, Drew Williamson and Jamie Barnett who did play.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

There have been a couple of these, but has Jarrad Prue actually retired?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Prue was playing in the Blitz, so take that as you will. Damian Matacz was also playing for Wolves.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Mm, righto, that sounds promising. I hear the Suns' imports (Kevin Anthony and Lien Phillip) did well during the Blitz, hopefully signs of life in Kalamunda!

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DH  
Years ago

Cockburn not getting 2 imports

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DH, Why do you say no imports for Cockburn ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Carter Cook....more like Carter Cook'ed it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And then ate it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think you will find Cockburn will have imports this season. Well at least one.
http://basketball.australiabasket.com/team/Australia/Cockburn_Cougars/2042

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Look out for a breakout year from Kerrod Horn at Eastern Suns. He's been putting in some serious work in a few domestic competitions...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The kid can shoot the three ball and rebounds solidly. Hopefully he'll get some solid minutes with Kuhn gone.

I reckon Suns will make top 8. Surprise of the league

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nah no chance to make the 8

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hows mandurah looking?? Doesn't look like they have much depth? Saw they picked up that kiwi import who was at the giants last year but had no game to speak of!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I heard Matt Allen has put in some serious off-season work and will be looking for a break-out season this year!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do I hear a move to cockburn on the cards?

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Vella 5  
Years ago

^^who?

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

"Saw they picked up that kiwi import who was at the giants last year" - what?? are you talking about Adrian Majstrovich? if so, 1. he's not an import, he's basically an Aussie who lived most his life in WA; and 2. he signed with the Southland Sharks ages ago. Besides, Kiwis are not imports in the SBL anyway

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kiwi is Travis McIlroy. Mandurah will be solid but once again you go past 7 deep and get nothing

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DH  
Years ago

Magic Bench Jackson 2Dellas That's not bad

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Vella 5  
Years ago

^^ they're paying Jackson, why would he start on the bench...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good to see cockburn and suns getting imports
For the leagues sake lets hope there competitive
Magic, same team as last year add jackson
Starters
Jackson
Florence
Hafferd
Mullenex
Smith
Bench. Dellas and gerovich
Not many teams go past 8 deep

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Teams that can challenge for title
Gero
Flames
Wolves
Magic
Willo
East Perth

Finals hopefuls
Perth
Hawks
Slammers
Lightning

Cellar dwellers
Suns
Stirling
Cockburn
Kalgoolie

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DH  
Years ago

What are lightning imports like Great to see Suns and Cougars with imports Sheldon is worth respect Will be a asset to Cockburn Hope they get 2 imports

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Anonymous  
Years ago

After watching the blitz last weekend these are my impressions of where each team could end up at the end of this season:
Top 4
Wolves
Willeton
Slammers
Flames

Fighting for top 8 position

East Perth
Redbacks
Hawks
Buccs
Magic
Suns

Teams predicted not to be in top 8
Lightning
Stirling
Cockburn
Giants

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lakeside imports aren't as good as what they had last season unfortunately. Source says one of last years import wasn't happy with the extra 'community' commitments that the Lightning look for. Guess they settled for a pair who were..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Did anybody see the Perry Lakes Hawks women's import in action? She wasn't suited up at the Blitz when I went but she looked more buff than a few of the men's players!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Saw Donlagic Jr go down last night with an ankle, it seemed serious and went off in a wheelchair.

Not sure if he gets many minutes at East Perth.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't think he has played significant minutes yet. Might have got some time this year though, shame.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perry Lakes PG Ben Dixon out with broken ankle. In a boot.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Yerp, Dixon out 4 weeks. Rob Cassir also out until mid-season with a knee injury

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Anonymous  
Years ago

SBL has officially kicked (tipped) off..... Finally

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

Hawks were pathetic against the Eagles tonight, down 30+ when it mattered and down 0 - 15 after 3 minutes. Coaches and players seemed overwhelmed. Will finish bottom 2 or 3 if they don't make some serious adjustments.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Was at Suns vs Magic. Decent game considering it was their first! Magic had lots of turnovers 30+ I think but came out on top in OT, their bigs came up ...big. Game shouldn't of gone to OT, Jackson missed crucial fts

Horn was started really well but rolled his ankle early, and only came back in the second half. Chan had a blinder, double double and 5 steals. Suns imports played ATROCIOUS...I think at one point they were a combine 8/30...something like that. I don't know what their bigger one (Anthony I think) was thinking playing like a 2 guard at 6-7....he played 50+ mins, the other subbed off with a cramp.

Mullenax, Hafford and Smith just too experience and strong. Neither team looked flashy but again, it was only the first game.

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AnkleBreaker  
Years ago

Suns v Mandurah

Exciting start to the season with an overtime win to the Magic 106 over an improved Suns team 98.

Some good play by both teams, and some scrappy horrible play mixed in between.

Magic appeared to struggle against the defence of the Suns early, with what must easily be a double figure in turnovers for the first quarter.

Seva Chan had a great game, strong defensively with a handful of steals, and smart play with the ball in the point.

Ben Smith started and finished the game well, great play under the basket, the Suns never really had an answer for him all night. I believe Jaarod Holmes had a cracking block against Ben, but that was a rare defensive stop.

Taylor Mullenax, who looks like he is carrying a little extra ballast early in the season, took a while to get going, but when he did he proved to smart to strong for the Suns.

Magic import Jackson struggled early, missed some crucial free throws, but had some good speed and some crisp passes throughout the game.

Suns imports a fit and athletic, but had a challenging first round game. Kevin Anthony while showing some good speed, had a lot of trouble finishing on the drive. He looked nervous so hopefully will gain some composure in future games.

Lien Phillip at 208cm positioned himself at the top of the key far too much, often firing off poor jump shots. Suns will need to find away to get him working closer to the hoop to take advantage of his size and length.

Holmes, I though played a pretty solid game and will be strong contributor for the Suns this year.

Rhett Della killed it from the free throw line, Geordie Murray knocked down 4 3's coming cold of the bench. Was surprised he was not utilised more in the OT.

Mandurah with Mullenax, and Smith are going to cause headaches to teams all season.

Suns need to get their imports firing and if they can, they will be quite a challenge for most teams this season.

Good to have the SBL back!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^ I stand corrected, Philip is the bigger one and boy do I agree. Played out at the top of the key, when it was the tallest guy on the court. Drained one deep three but that was about it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sunday Dech was freakish last night! 33 points with 21 at the half. Eagles looked tired in the 4th so not sure how they'll go tonight against the Flames.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers Buccs will be a beauty tonight, am going to the game and can't wait, predicting Buccs by 6 with Bennie Lewis scoring 15 in the last quarter

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ben Smith with 32 points and 20 rebounds last night, impressive

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tigers versed the 2014 Tigers tonight. Every possession went to the Giants imports, who were very good, no doubt, but it was reminiscent of Dickson and McDowell from last season.

Tigers simply had too many scoring avenues, scott and armor pushed the pace and everyone else just got open.

Giants are going to struggle with depth...imports are legit though and seem like nice guys too...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers with a 6 point win over the Buccs (Got the Margin) High quality game with a huge 3rd quarter for the Slammers the difference in the game.

Big time game from two of the leagues top contenders

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

classic Prue-like game: 8 points and 26 rebounds... off the bench!!

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Peter  
Years ago

Fade away Ray Turner 30pts/30rbds.
Wonder when was last time this happened in the SBL?

Who can shed some light on this game??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wow, so it was 30 rebounds! When he was given the game MVP I thought I misheard when they said 30 and that it must have been 13.

Stirling got an early jump and never looked back. Redbacks perimeter shooting let them down all night. Turner is crazy athletic and can dominate games, but I think Stirling's lack of bigs (who like to be in the paint) probably helped inflate his rebound count. That said, the dunks he threw down were worth the price of admission alone.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Anyone know how tall Kerrod Horn is? He doesn't seem to have a listed height anywhere...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

6'1 I would say

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I wish the SBL would improve the media coverage. Last game was Sunday, there isn't any analysis or media reports or anything aside from the 'nght recap' which is really just a regurgitation of stats. No radio show or anything like that yet. Back in 2009/2010 there was constant articles and previews that were actually good to read!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The mind boggles that BWA doesn't hire their own in-house media person. Between the SBL and the Waves, there is a year round job there. Paying a blow in to come and put together half arsed recaps based on boxscores (has anyone seen him at a game?) is next to worthless. Put the resources together to get someone to run the media, social media etc. There is a lot of room for improvement for both the Waves and SBL websites.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Credit though, the pre season write ups were good. Having guest contributors was key as they could say what the truly thought rather than having to remain neutral like every article they post.

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DH  
Years ago

Perhaps Random could do the write ups

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3chnz  
Years ago

Can anyone shed any light on why there's a redbacks write up but no other club. I know that there's the complete wrap for the weekend which is as discussed^ a regurgitation of stats, but why the individual club report on redbacks??

Is it something to do with how much of a fail Curtin was and trying to boost numbers? Seems a bit dodge.

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Anon  
Years ago

You will find that Redbacks submit this write up and have done in previous years.

How can the move to Curtin be a failure?
Great facility, easier to get to, more secure car park...

If you are judging by crowd numbers, then a lot of other metro teams home games could also be called a failure right...

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

Can't wait to see the Curtin facility. Do the Reddies have access to the gym etc.? How many people were at the game?

Hawks Eagles had a decent crowd, but more about Joes 400th I think.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Eagles had just under 500 for their game against Rockingham. They got a full time employee now pushing it in the schools and doing clinics to get more numbers up

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I was at Curtin on Saturday and don't think it was a fail by any stretch. They had just over 550 in attendance, which is a strong crowd at SBL level, IMO.

The facility at Curtin is new and comfortable, there is ample parking and there was a range of food options - what more could you want?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The SBL always publishes news stories supplied by the clubs, the problem is that not many clubs bother to provide content. The Redbacks have always provided game summaries for the website and good on them for doing so - extra coverage for them.

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3chnz  
Years ago

I'm not disputing the curtin move, it's a great facility, probably second to WABS. Comfy seats and lots of them.

There was hardly anyone there given how much advertising and exposure they put into it. There were signs all around the uni, on main roads. LED signs. It was promoted inside the UNI too.

Redbacks had the second lowest attendance number last year at 204 average. I'm just saying that it's a bit of a fail that they probably pulled that number again even though they promoted it so much, it was a season opener AND both men's and women's played. The sbl posted to their fb about Ray turner individually after the blitz and now again about redbacks individually.

If redbacks want to do there own write ups that's fine, put it on their site, but isnt the SBL meant to be neutral?

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3chnz  
Years ago

WABC*^^

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3chnz  
Years ago

And no, there was not 550 people at Curtin. Sorry.

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koberulz  
Years ago

The facility at Curtin is new and comfortable, there is ample parking and there was a range of food options - what more could you want?
Clocks that work properly?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sure, there was a teething issue with the clock but it was one game. Unless it becomes a "Luke to the score bench" situation each game then let's not be too quick to label it a fail.

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maxymoo  
Years ago

Am I the only one that can't register with the SBL forum - just says invalid e-mail?

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3chnz  
Years ago

Okay I retract my comment about it being a fail. Nice venue, making effort etc. that is definitely good work.

My main point is the SBL site. BWA is obviously made of people who have worked up from the associations, I know there is a strong Joondalup presence and then some Redbacks, and obvs Perry Lakes.

I've just noticed not a great neutral stance in a few posts....

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x  
Years ago

Christian Shelter lakeside women's import, ACL done for season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

3chnz I completely disagree with you about the SBL website. As the article clearly was written about the redbacks team BY the redbacks club of course it would be bias. If we only have nuetral articles on the SBL website it will be very boring to read e.g. stating stats and ladder position thats about it.

We need more club driven media to be posted on the site. If you go back through the news archive on the SBL site you will see some of the articles back in 2010 that were well written analysis of the games (similar to randoms write ups on the forum).

Not to mention the other stuff they could be doing, radio, video highlights game promotion etc

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Shame about Shelter ACL. 2nd week in and to a team already looking to develop younger players.

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Peter  
Years ago

Exactly well done to those who promote there own club and spend the time to write an article.
Im sure the SBL would love every club to submit a article each week.

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Anon  
Years ago

It is a shame about Shelter doing her ACL. Does anyone know if Franich has done his ACL as well?

3chnz, you have missed the mark on both the Curtin post and the BWA website.

I'm sure Redbacks would have hoped for a sellout and definitely put in ample effort for this to happen. But having SBL there is a new thing and will take some time to grow. If they can win some games and their import keeps putting up those numbers then I'm sure crowd numbers will increase. Keeping in mind that WABL will start in a month or so and this will increase numbers.

With BWA, they are actually being neutral by posting articles submitted by clubs. It just happens Redbacks are one of the only clubs to get this done.
I'm definitely not a fan of how BWA operate but I don't think there is a problem of them being neutral. More likely that they don't have experienced people in key roles, and a CEO that is like a ghost...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Most teams do have an article in the local community website after each weekend. How hard is it to send a link through to the SBL

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Firstly I was at Curtin and there was definitely not 550 people there. Why do Redbacks people constantly have to fudge their crowd figures? They did it all last season and obviously have the same people 'counting' again this year... It was more closer to the 300 mark but definitely nowhere near that horrendous quote! I agree its a new facility and there are going to be issues, but even Mr Magoo could look at the pics off the SBL Photo Gallery page and see that those numbers are grossly overstated! Maybe the SBL need to start threatening fines for clubs who are continuously falsify crowd numbers to make them look good when overall stats are released to all clubs at seasons end!!

In regards to the previews, why can't each club get out an article each week. Email BWA and I know adam will put it on the website! Don't get narky at the likes of Redbacks who take the time to promote their club!! If more clubs actually were proactive in getting their 'brand' out there more, we wouldn't look like such a second rate league half the time when it came to Social Media. ABA have a youtube channel for crying out loud, maybe we need to look at getting some journalism students at one of the Major Uni's over here (Curtin if we have the link there already!) and get them to do a weekly show on?!

As a state we need to start being proactive rather than reactive, otherwise it will be a case of same old, same old and the standard complaints year in, year out until something IS done by ALL clubs to make the League a better package!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

the sbl website isn't even up to date. players that had double headers over the weekend's stats aren't up to date. averages and all that.

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anon  
Years ago

So round 2 is already in the books and we are starting to see the better teams establish themselves, with a couple of surprises.

My 'power' rankings after 2 rounds:

1 - Buccs
A massive weekend with big wins over Hawks and Redbacks. New import looks the good and they will only get better with Cook getting in better shape. If new import and DT accept coming off bench all year then they will be tough.

2 - Wolves
Did enough to beat Suns without playing that well. Have a great roster and have been getting good minutes into young guys. Damo will improve with more games in his comeback which will make these guys even better.

3 - Slammers
May have the best balanced team in league. If Ty stays healthy they are contenders. Just need one of Hitchcock, Wortho, or Hickert to have a solid year and they are right there with top teams.

4 - Magic
Will keep getting better as JJ learns to control team. Best big guy combo in league, just need Hafford to consistently get 15 and 6 then they will be close to top teams.

5 - Flames
Quiet achievers. Corey Craig seems to have made a decent comeback. If he and Godfrey can be consistent scorers then they might move up a couple of spots. A lot of scoring pressure on Cooper and Remmers at the moment.

6 - Redbacks
Is JP playing? They are struggling a bit with all the new faces and all playing together. Not a good sign when your imports go for 48 and 24 and you just scrape out a win against Lakeside. Surprisingly they are struggling to score. Will get it going though and move up ladder.

7 - Tigers
Have 2 big wins against weaker teams but were beaten soundly by Wolves. As much noise as there was about Armour and Scott, their imports let them down a bit. Tigers will rely on Cody to have big games and will likely win when he plays well. Not very deep so may struggle mid year when injuries start to happen.

8 - Eagles
Same old, same old. Probably getting enough wins while Jervis is resting to hang around.
Have been very competitive and look to just run out of steam or get in foul trouble. When Jervis returns they will be a lot better but may be 1 player off being a championship contender.

9 - Suns
Surprise package so far. Imports have helped but Seva Chan is the biggest difference. This kid has shown that he can play and might be early contender for Most Improved. Need Holmes and Horn to put up bigger numbers to crack top 8

10 - Lakeside
Swing looks to be a top tier import but other guy may not be the player they needed. He probably can play but as an undersized big on a small team he will struggle.
Hopefully Dixon and Jackson can make the transition between role players that had some good games to consistent veterans that have mostly good games. How long to Prue returns to 48 mins

11 - Cougars
Another surprise. Adding import helped them along with Sheldon and Grant. These two are just smart, hard nosed players. Young ginger from Lakeside has shown to be a good pickup (and bad loss for Lakside)

12 - Senators
Will improve if Throns returns from college but just don't have enough talent right now. Teams can now focus on Ellis and import. Last season you had 2 imports, Ellis, and Throns to cover...

13 - Hawks
First team to hit panic mode. It is early and the he probably needs a couple more games to adjust but the big import doesn't look the goods. Scoring big numbers is one thing, but at close on 7 feet you need to be getting more than a handful of boards.

14 - Giants
Unfortunately looks like it is going to be a long year. Really bad for them and Lordan if it is an ACL injury. He needed to be their 3rd best player for them to compete.
Shamus not the player he was when he was last there and none of the new guys look to be big contributors.
They probably won't move up ladder until they can get a Shamus/Hezza combo to go with 2 imports and a shooter like Hulme.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers looking good early on but I still doubt their depth and ability to grind out wins on the road, should be a top 6 team still after an impressive start

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Red 74  
Years ago

Small import for Hawks doesn't seem to be gelling with his team either.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

JP will play once he recovered from offseason surgery (I think it was to clean up his ankle).

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Ndftd  
Years ago

I wouldn't put Willetton 7th man. Saying they aren't deep when Easley and Noordhoek come off the bench... Cmon now

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Was at East Perth vs Willetton and they moved the ball very well (tigers), in the full and half court. Too many open looks.They'll be top 5 at least, don't see them beating Geraldton or Slammers on size..

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anon  
Years ago

Ndftd, why don't you give us your rankings then.
I'm just going on games so far, I will be wrong as different teams play better and also drop off pace.
Easley and Nordhoek do give some depth off bench you are right.

Jervis would have made a huge difference to Eagles game, if he was playing from the start of season I think they would be top 4 right now.

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

It will take a few weeks for the teams in contention to sort themselves out and play their best basketball. There's a big difference in having your import(s) here for two weeks or four weeks. A big worry is Perry Lakes who look like they may not win a game.

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baller  
Years ago

Any chance we can get this much activity on the the actual SBL forum. Or getting a new topic made up, instead of having to scroll down on this old thread everytime?

Some things I have noticed in first couple of weeks.

- Perth taking a while to adjust which probably not expected. Prior looked really unfit in pre season blitz so will take a while for him to get back to peak fitness. I still they they will contend for championship, just need to make the 8.

- Cockburn look like a top 8 challenger. Everyone seems to have forgotten how good field is. Without Scott and Chan, the teams seems to havee a better understanding of where their looks are going to come from. Could have been 3-0 if they had their second import in round 1.

- East Perth will struggle to get enough wins on the baord before Jervis comes back. Did see Balcombe back which will help.

- Hawks and Giants to challenge for spoon.

- I think you have your top 6 challengers- in flames, wolves, gero, slammers, willo, perth.

- Mandurah probably the 7th best.

- The 8th team to come from East Perth, Cockburn, Lakeside and Stirling (depending on how long throns is here, and whether illiadis comes back).

- Suns to for 12th as they have very little depth.

- Like the NBA, I think what ever team stays healthy wins the championship.

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lel  
Years ago

1. Slammers-
Putting these guys #1 simply based on them beating Gero, who could also be top of the ladder. Really this could be Joondalup, Buccs or Slammers who all seem on par with depth, size and skill. Joondalup could be a bit 'smaller' in terms of weight compared to Slammers and Cart-I mean Buccs...

2. Buccs (as above)
3. Wolves (as above)

4. Flames - good team and largely unchanged. Will fly under the radar and will continue to pick off the mid-weaker teams. I think there'll be a gap between 3rd and the rest though.

5. Tigers - have it all except a big who can muscle his way around like Mullenax, Turner, Cook and the Slammers big do. I think they have enough speed, 3pt shooting and backcourt skill to finish high, but will get pushed around by the above players.

6. Magic - Opposite of the Tigers, have the inside presence but Jackson is there only real confident guard (albeit a good one). I think they'll struggle as the season goes on with an older playing group.

7. Redbacks - having 2 imports(who are dominant) can only get you so far. With little to no support against Lakeside, they grinded out a win but I don't think they'll keep it up for the rest of the season, especially back to backs as seen against Gero..

8. Lakeside - 1 good import, 1 average. Not deep and really will be competing with Suns and maybe Cockburn at this spot. All three teams rely on their imports.

9. Suns (see above)
10. Cockburn (see above) both revelations and I agree with the statement made earlier, Seva is putting in some work. Along with Holmes getting a decent share of the ball, and if Horn starts knocking down 3's, they'll push Lakeside out of the top 8. Actually thinking they should be in there now...

11. East Perth. Even when Jervis returns, I think the damage will be done early.

12. Stirling, Dud import. Ellis has too much work to do in that team.

13. Perry Lakes, VERY dud import, Hobbs seems okay though. I can't see how a 7'ft centre grabs 5-6 rebs a game.
14. Giants. :(

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Hawks: Purser and Garlepp working hard, but too many passengers and injuries (Cassir and Dixon). Also, while Hobbs is good, he hasn't gelled well and looks to be playing for individual stats i.e. never hesitates to shoot and his assists are not high. Regarding Conrad, yeah bit of a dud, but I give him a couple more games (he looked alright on Friday with 13pts and 9reb against Cougars) - he has been released mid-season by both his previous teams in Holland and Canada, so third team in a row to release him??

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Anon  
Years ago

On Conrad, didn't realise he had been released by two teams previously.

Really makes you question what the coaches at Hawks are thinking.

To pick a guy released by two teams and a 7 footer (which is always a risk in SBL which is not a league suited to big centres...) Maybe they are the ones that need releasing?

They should have gotten a couple of guys like Cecil.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

They looked at bringing back Cecil but his Spanish team's season is still going and they didn't want to wait for him. They weren't great last season, but Cecil was reliable despite being injury prone.

Nixy is a good coach, just doesn't have much to work with at the moment, besides he's a cripple himself having had an operation on right knee prior to the season.

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baller  
Years ago

ryan smith is a find for the hawks. The guy can play. had 29 on Friday night against the hawks.
he is a former slammer junior

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baller  
Years ago

against the cougars should i say

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Anon  
Years ago

where was Smith against the Buccs? Hopefully not injured.

Even if Cecil was not available there are plenty like him or even better.

Why in the world would you go for a guy who has been released mid season, not once but twice.

Conrad had a less than impressive college career at a small NCCA D2 school. He averaged around 6 pts and 5 rbds.

In comparison, Thomas from Lakeside was an All American in the NAIA D1. This is the top 30 odd players in that division in the US. (and Thomas looks to be struggling as well)

When you compare the guys Redbacks got from big D1 schools then Conrad is always going to struggle.

I feel for the guy as he has been put into a situation he is not ready for and will likely have a tough year...

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Peter  
Years ago

He really does look to be struggling,

Over the 3 games so far, only 8 shot attempts per game. Surely you want him taking 20 shots minimum.

9pts/7rbds and 1.6 blocks in 34mins not a great return.

Generally speaking at 7ft tall and 26yrs of age if you are looking to come to SBL to ply your trade there must be a reason!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Reality is not every club has the money to throw at top grade Div 1 Talent and not knowing PL's situation then im gussing he is a Working Visa guy and if you could get a 7 foot WV guy its worth rolling the dice.

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Anon  
Years ago

Fair call on WV 7 foot comment.

Most guys coming out of college can be picked up for the minimum (immigration requirement approx $500/week etc) as the European teams don't often go for a rookie unless they have had a great college career. In which case they aren't coming to the SBL anyway.

I know Redbacks aren't rolling in cash so can't see either of their guys getting much more than the minimum.

Anyways I hope he proves us all wrong and has a dominant season, the Hawks surely need it...

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Peter  
Years ago

Exactly, you want everyone who comes over to have great seasons as only strengthens the league.

Anon great power ranking by the way.




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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

"Nixy is a good coach, just doesn't have much to work with at the moment, besides he's a cripple himself having had an operation on right knee prior to the season."

Where has he coached/played before going to Hawks?

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Nix's first season as head coach was in 2013. He took over mid-season after Shawn Dennis' left for Townsville and led the team to a second place finish with an 18-8 record. Both times the Crocs played the Wildcats at Perth Arena in 2014-15, Nix was on the bench alongside Dennis.

Regarding Ryan Smith, he was at a mate's wedding on Saturday night, so no worries there. He is definitely a good pick up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

hahaha Redbacks aren't rolling in it??!?!?! give me a break! that must of come from the redbacks camp... coaching staff maybe

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Anonymous  
Years ago

considering the redbacks are the only the SBL team with a courtside box at the wildcats game makes your point invalid.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Whats wrong with hawks dixon?

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

He was wearing a moon boot two weeks ago.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rolled his ankle and the ligament pulled out some bone...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why are the stats on the SBL website not refreshed? The results and box scores from this weekend are in yet the over all stats are a week old.

Who are contenders for player of the week this week? Not as many crazy numbers this time around other than Browns 48 point effort

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dunno but it's really annoying. Players have played up to 3-4 games but the stats only show 1-2 games in the averages. Very unprofessional. Where is the radio show?

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Anon  
Years ago

It would be good if BWA could manage stakeholder expectations and put out a comms on when these updates can be expected etc.

It is almost pointless having these stats on a website if it is not updated close to real time. After a couple of weeks people will not even go back there to look.

As a comparison, the VJBL (Vic Juniors) games on a Friday night are all done on a paper scoresheet as some of the venues don't have electronic systems.

All of these game results are often updated by Saturday afternoon, but definitely done by Sunday.

The VJBL doesn't do leading scorers etc but there is in excess of 800 games that they get scores uploaded.

SBL is putting stats etc but from my knowledge all of these are entered electronically and should be available as soon as someone verifies then authorises.

If this assumption is wrong then it would be good for BWA to advise otherwise we are all checking for updated stats on a Monday morning.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

From what I saw a whole quarter was missed from Cougars v Stirling Womens game on Sat night so the score that we see isnt right. there is no 1st quarter score. Still stadiums cant provide working equipment eg printers etc so stats can be printed and no reliable internet connection so live stats can go up

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

I looked at the SBL stats yesterday, specifically the turnovers, and saw the leaders averaged 4.5 per game. A look down the list of all who committed a turnover revealed there were two players averaging six per game. These guys were not even listed in the stat leaders page. The SBL provide a disgraceful service to those who support basketball in WA.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mathiang Muo has just signed with the Giants. Not sure how this benefits them but hey each to their own

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Muo returning to the SBL with the Giants: https://www.facebook.com/GoldfieldsGiants/posts/715922828520316

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meggsie  
Years ago

this makes the goldfields giants a very legitimate chance of playoffs, this and the fact that franich will play again at some stage again this season.exciting starting 5 with shamus throwing dimes .if they finish 5-8 in the playoffs which I expect they will it would be a tough match up playing them at home in game 1.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They need to get into the playoffs first and really, they haven't even versed gero, slammers or Joondalup yet... It's gonna be very tough for them even being week 2. That's why it's so important to get early wins on the board, for example vs East perth

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

I reckon Mathiang Muo will give the Giants a really good balance. He can play inside and out and will defend. With Exell back as a shot blocker they will be much better than they were over last two weekends.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

An observation I have made:
There are obviously plenty of SBL fans who have something to say, as seen in this thread, which has changed topics multiple times and is updated daily. Yet over at the good old SBL forum it is lucky to have a new post once every week.

I believe the difference is the fact you can post here anonymously without making an account. Any web/tech savvy people out there know if we can set up a forum much like the other one dedicated to WA basketball that you don't need accounts for and can post quickly and anonymously? I'm sure accounts will still be created if it is a dedicated place for all things SBL.

That way we can have random's p/reviews as well as all these opinions in one spot with organised threads. Just imagine how the 'BWA's media team (or lack there of) is a joke" thread will go off!

I've enjoyed this thread thoroughly but it may be time to expand and move forward! Just one of the ways we as fans can make SBL more enjoyable.
My 2 cents.

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lel  
Years ago

^^ bump

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Anon  
Years ago

Agree with 429.
It is much easier to read and reply on this forum.

The other thing is that you can check out the threads from other leagues around Australia (although the SA threads with bickering between club supporters is getting a bit old...)

Obviously BWA would be aware of the comments/complaints on these forums. You would think they would take it on board and action.

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Anon  
Years ago

BTW, the individual stats on sbl.asn are still not updated.

The coaches that us stats in their scouting reports must be loving this...

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

The stats are there, it's just the averages aren't working/up-to-date. You can see the player's three/four games so far, it's just if you want the player's average, you'll have to calculate it yourself. FoxSportsPulse must be the problem, I doubt it's the SBL.

For example, the NBL Grand Final Game 1 and 2 stats are not up for the Cairns Taipans and the Breakers players. So if you look at Torrey Craig's profile, you'll see 30 games when it should be 32 - not sure if it's the NBL's fault or the system. So it could be the same with the SBL, it could be purely FoxSportsPulse's stuff up.

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Anon  
Years ago

DaHuzyBru not sure I follow you. Are you suggesting that if you go into the box score of each game then you can get the 3 or 4 game stats for a player? (adding each game together...)

I think everyone is referring to season stats where it collates each players totals and gives averages. This area only has 1 or 2 games.

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lel  
Years ago

Don't know if the recent resignation of Rick Smith has much to do with the disarray at BWA...

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Anon  
Years ago

Wow that is big news...

Although he is the CEO I'm not sure it would have much to do with the disarray. BWA has been the same since he was there.

No disrespect to the people in the BWA office but it is difficult to have people in senior positions (Cxx or Management of Comps) if they have limited or no commercial experience.

I doubt there are many BWA employees that have held similar roles to what are being asked of them in a commercial, competitive business.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

A few things...

SBL FORUM
As one of the administrators of the SBL Forum, I would love to see this sort of conversation happening over there. But as someone has correctly said, you need to be a registered user to post.

There are two reasons why the SBL Forum will remain a registration-based forum for the time being:
1) The spamming we get is unbelievable. We get approximately 250 bogus accounts sign up every day. These are spamming accounts that, if activated, would lead to 99% of posts being spam.
2) In the early days of the SBL Forum, we received a couple of letters from lawyers in regards to defamatory comments made by anonymous users. With peoples livelihoods on the line, we disabled anonymous posting. And to be honest, my personal opinion is if you want to comment on something but have the luxury of hiding behind an anonymous name to protect yourself, then you are weak as piss. If that leads to the SBL Forum dying out, then so be it.

SBL WEBSITE STATS
Yes there are problems with accumulated stats on the SBL website at the moment. However it is a Sporting Pulse issue which the SBL are trying to get to the bottom of.

And if anyone is wondering, no I do not work for the SBL. However instead of sitting back and criticizing them when something like this happens (without knowing the actual facts), I usually send off a simple email asking a question, which is generally followed by a satisfactory answer.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Further to my above post, you will all be happy to know that as of 5 minutes ago, the stats problem on the SBL website has been fixed.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

^well, there you go!

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Greeny  
Years ago

"And to be honest, my personal opinion is if you want to comment on something but have the luxury of hiding behind an anonymous name to protect yourself, then you are weak as piss."

Sorry to be rude, but is your real name Lukosius, and is Random his real name.
I do love the reviews Random does and your input and knowledge is great

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maxymoo  
Years ago

@ Lukosius - I can't register on the SBL forum as it is saying my e-mail is invalid.

There is no contact or help e-mail addy on the forum that you can access unless you're registered.

Bit of a problem

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lel  
Years ago

a marked decrease in Anon posts on here... hehe

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Corey Easley will be no longer be classed as an import mid way through the season. If tigers have any money left, they could choose to get another import...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lukosius, not sure if calling your target audience "weak as piss" is the greatest marketing concept ever seen...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Willetton will get another import and have 8 amazing players plus their young shooters off the bench, far out...

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lel  
Years ago

I can't count the 8 'amazing' players but they will be v strong.

Atm Easley comes off the bench. Add another 3/4 and you've got:

Armour
Scott
Cody
IMPORT
Davis

Clarke
Easley
Noordhoek
Burston
... Dam son, bench unit looks alright?!

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Peter  
Years ago

So how does that work, the Aussie citizenship?
Is a date already locked in and they waiting it out.

If this is the case then makes sense why they signed him in the first place.

Gives them options...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adrian Majstrovich confirmed to be willetton's mid year signing. I saw him down at their training the other day preparing already

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Peter  
Years ago

haha.
AJ isnt restricted so he could play tomorrow if he wanted to!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oh great here we go with the Majstrovich talk again...

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lel  
Years ago

Dammit the guy is in NEW ZEALAND! He ain't coming...
I think Easley has committed to Tigers for 2016

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Greeny, I have used this username for many years however I do not hide behind it. Most people in SBL circles know who I am, as is also the case with R@nD0m.

And for the 'Anonymous' who stated...

"Lukosius, not sure if calling your target audience "weak as piss" is the greatest marketing concept ever seen..."....

well you proved my point lol.

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lel  
Years ago

This is straight off Jason Conrad's recruiting page:

"He is not very aggressive offensively (only averaging 6.2 ppg his senior year) and needs to be more aggressive on the boards as well. With his mix of touch, size and athleticism, he has the potential to plan in the D-League and potentially impress enough to make an NBA roster, but he needs to play with a higher motor, get stronger (add muscle) and assert himself on both ends of the floor if he wants to realize his full potential."

Big gamble by the Hawks getting this guy in...

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

What's with the Majstrovich rumors again? Training with Willetton? He played in the NZNBL Blitz last weekend, are you sure that was him? He is set to debut with the Southland Sharks on April 1... http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/67463729/southland-sharks-raring-to-go-for-start-of-new-nz-nbl-season

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lel  
Years ago

many trolls on here DaHuzy...

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Peter  
Years ago

haha relax, Im sure he was joking!

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Good 7-footers are a rare commodity these days. Generally any of the good ones won't appear in a league like ours.

And the ones that do usually aren't great, i.e. Conrad.

With so matter athletic and versatile 4/5 men in the SBL these days, getting in a 7-footer is a big risk.

The SBL isn't really a 7-footers league, compared to say, Europe. 48-min games along with upbeat game play makes it tough for players like that.

I think this was a recruiting error by the Hawks.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

@lukosius - what about the can't register question...who can you contact or is it just tough titties?

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Send an email to [email protected] quoting your username.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Trolls, trolls everywhere...

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Greeny  
Years ago


Does anyone know if there is any truth to the rumour that the Wildcats have bought the West Coast Waves with an ex wildcats assistant as coach?
Good news if true

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Cats have shown 0 interest in the Waves, where has this come from?!

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Greeny  
Years ago

Heard the rumour from the place where all good rumours come from, the pub.
Source was pretty confident it was true.

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imwithstupid  
Years ago

You guys are all really stupid to think any rumours on here are true.

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maxymoo  
Years ago

AJ told me it was true

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Going to assume the SBL has cancelled the radio show. Pretty disappointing.

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lel  
Years ago

Wildcats taking over Waves is going ahead.

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Greeny  
Years ago

Yep, and some people think rumours on here are stupid and untrue.
It will be a great move for the Waves and gives BWA time to concentrate on promoting SBL, WABL and game development.

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

So who's the (rumored) new coach?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If it's true, good luck to the Waves. It's been a long time sine they've been competitive in the league.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If its the same ex Wildcats assistant that i think you are talking about, he has already stated previously that he is not interested in the job.

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Greeny  
Years ago

We might be both thinking of the same ex assistant, I didn't think he was interested in doing it either. If it is the same I thought he was off sitting by the side of a lake!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So when can we expect the big announcement?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Considering wildcats might not have a league to play in then yes a great move. NBL is an absolute joke now and has been for years and years. How many times can teams leave and come back and the league threaten to have to shut down before they get off their asses and fix it and get it back to glory days.

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Peter  
Years ago

5 imports for waves then?

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baller  
Years ago

everyone went mad at gaze for suggesting it to be shut down.

the soccer league did it now look at how good their brand is.

going a bit off topic here though

we need everyone to jump back on the sbl forum

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maxymoo  
Years ago

Saw Stirling v South West tonight.

If Cody catches a cold Senators are stuffed....too small, very shallow and really massively outmatched.

Ellis fought a lone hand.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thoughts on SW maxymoo?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Clive Weeden was too big inside for the Slammers

Tre Nichols jeez he is quick and can score at will

Ty Harrelson and Brian Voelkel are so solid and do it all, can't ask for anything more from them after 4 games

Amazingly the Slammers have a lot of room for improvement as well, fouls are an issue with their Americans and other bigs

Will he at their game at 2pm this afternoon, will do a small write up after the game, they look good but will be tough vs a fresh Kalamunda team

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lel  
Years ago

Something to note as I was at the Tigers Cougars game:

Damien Scott gets ALOT of open 3pt looks but has been incredibly inefficient this season, shooting 8/42...

I'd hate to see the how many he could score if he scored at a decent clip.

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Red 74  
Years ago

Anyone know why Eagles only had 8 players last night?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Eagles suffering the worst run of injuries and bad luck.. they have a few that are out for weeks/months..

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Yeah, don't reckon any club can really stop the Slammers right now. Too overpowered with four (*ahem* two) imports and Mark Worthington's bro... their too strong.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joe Alan and the Italian import were missing. Surely they had some D-League players that could have filled the bench for them?

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maxymoo  
Years ago

I was impressed by SW.

Tre ran the point and they just have the inside-outside game down pat.

Again hard to judge as Stirling didn't have the interior defence to cope, however I would think its a Buccs-SW GF from where I sit.

Really enjoyed the WSBL game too - the SW point was excellent.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Maxymoo are you a Suns fan that was at the game yesterday? If so thanks for your input and I agree with everything you said

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DaHuzy: I think the biggest test is going to be when the Slammers face the Wolves. Geraldton are good, but not on the same level as these two teams I think. Wanneroo still have Timms to come into the rotation aswell. Crazy

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DaHuzy: I think the biggest test is going to be when the Slammers face the Wolves. Geraldton are good, but not on the same level as these two teams I think. Wanneroo still have Timms to come into the rotation aswell. Crazy

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DaHuzy: I think the biggest test is going to be when the Slammers face the Wolves. Geraldton are good, but not on the same level as these two teams I think. Wanneroo still have Timms to come into the rotation aswell. Crazy

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perry Lakes have just released Jason Conrad and are on the search for a new import

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lel  
Years ago

Back problems? C'mon now Charlie, first you had Willetton finishing 9th overall and now you ain't owning up to a poor choice of import...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nice cover Nixy, shame we can see straight through it!

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lel  
Years ago

I mean no doubt he may of hurt his back, but they were probs looking for any excuse to get rid of him.

Whats everyones thoughts on Perry Lakes making the 8 if say...Adrian Majstrovich returns to Perry Lakes in two weeks ;) ....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

My friend at Air New Zealand said AJ booked his flight to Perth five minutes after Hawks announced the cut.

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lel  
Years ago

He only flies Qantas...and they now have the direct flight path goin on...

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Anon  
Years ago

Well Round 3 has come and gone and we are starting to see which teams have got their pre-season timed right and the ones that are a bit under done.
Cockburn continue to surprise based on pre-season predictions having them as cellar dwellars, with Redbacks/Eagles/Hawks all starting to hit the panic button.
My 'power' rankings (which are purely based on results, stats, rumours etc) please feel free to give your opinion.

1) Slammers
Ty has definitely got his import selection right and the Slammers have got off to a flying start.
Voelkel seems to be an absolute gem and has taken over Ty's title as a walking triple double.
Slammers beat Buccs in 1st game and then have played 4 lower ranked teams but they still get my vote as #1.

2) Buccs
Having only played 1 home game and 4 away games to sit at 4-1 is a great start. Especially as the lose was only 6 pts to Slammers.
Adding DT and import Quincy has the Buccs back to the dominant team that they were with Blankston.
They go a legit 7 deep and have coverage for multiple spots should they get injuries.
Getting a win in Gero will be near on impossible this year.

3) Wolves
Getting the job done with only dominant display against the Tigers. Two important away wins so far.
Are a very experienced team that will end somewhere near 20 wins I think.
Adding Timms mid-season may disrupt chemistry but will make them by far the deepest team in the SBL.

4) Flames
All of their wins are against teams outside the 8 but they are undefeated with 2 away wins so far.
They are experienced and have depth at all positions.
Have Buccs and Slammers in the next 3 rounds so will be interesting to see where they are at.
I think they are about 5th/6th by the end of the year.

5) Tigers
I had them as 7th last time and I'm still not sure with them...
3 home wins and a big road loss. Too early to tell if that means anything more than just a 3-1 record.
Just scraped home against Cougars on a last second shot (which could have been an offensive foul...) but have been convincing against Eagles and Giants.
Rumours of a mid season import joining the team when Easely becomes an unrestricted player are interesting. Definitely would make them deep and will get the forum going with claims of buying a championship...
Should get a couple more wins before facing Buccs in round 6.

6) Magic
May have been a spot higher if they didn't drop the game against Hawks this weekend.
Good production from Florence, Della and Jackson.
Mully and Smith have had solid starts but are still under their combined pts/rbds from last year. I would expect Mully to slowly get more dominant as the season goes.
Hafford has been solid and will get better, at 15ppg/5.8rb/3.4ast he is under his season from last year so expect improvement here.
Jackson has doubled all of his key career stats and will only get better. It is great that he is getting an opportunity to run the team and show his game.

From here it gets harder...

7) Redbacks
They have probably played one of the hardest schedules to date with their last 3 games (losses) to Magic, Flames, Buccs.
They do have 3 home losses already which will make it hard for them as they will need to pick this up on the road.
Having said this they just added Prior back to their roster and they should start to win some games soon.

8) Cougars
With a 3-2 record and only close losses the Cougars have exceeded a lot of peoples prediction. Although we weren't sure they were getting imports when all the doom and gloom was predicted.
Milam and Lane have formed a good trio with Field and Pesava seems to be a good pickup from Lakeside.
Their veterans are also providing support.
I suspect that when other teams get their rosters sorted and gel a bit better then the Cougars may slide down the ladder a bit.

9) Lakeside
Swing is legit. Seems like he can create a shot and gets to the foul line a lot. If he had a better 3pt shot then he would be near on impossible to stop, aka Payne.
Prue still rebounds a lot but missing the players he used to kick it out to. Will be up and down until guys like Dixon and Jackson step up and become consistent threats.

10) Hawks
Won against Magic this weekend and big import didn't play much. Is this a sign of him be cut?
Not sure when Cassir and Dixon will be back but until then they will struggle

11) Giants
Adding Mua is a great signing (Why didn't Eagles have him signed already???) This will make them tougher but I think they are 1 player away from competing for top 8.

12) Suns
Will improve dramatically on last season but still a very young team. Will get about 8 wins I think

13) Senators
Really miss the 3rd import level player. Ellis is no doubt a dominant SBL player but not one that can win games on his own. New import appears solid but really needed to be dominant.

14) Eagles
Hit by injury and unavailibility of Jervis. When/if they get their roster together they will move up ladder. Not sure if they can repeat last year effort as they did win games early last season.

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

Hawks did pretty well without Conrad Saturday. Might be looking for two new imports.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Weagles got Muo for free last year due to wildcats connection. This year he would want $$ which Giants have but weagles don't

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No longer Anon, but now Interested Observer (still piss weak as according to Lukosius...)

Very interesting news from the Hawks. I do feel for the player as he was bought into a league that didn't suit him and he wasn't ready for. Coaches or whoever recruited him are more to blame than what the player is...

As the Hawks coaching staff are relatively inexperienced I wonder if it would not have been a better idea to go with a player that they have seen before and know what they are getting... An import that was in the SBL before or at least one that was in a league over east and is at least comparable.

It will be interesting to see what they go for next. Obviously they are needing to find someone quickly so might not be able to get the exact guy they want but there should be still a lot of guys looking for a gig.

Will they go 7foot again or something more suited to league.

I think by having Garlepp, Purser, Elliot on the roster that they aren't big but at least have some size.

They should be looking at a scorer that is between 6'5" and 6'8", play a bit of small ball and make it an up tempo game.

Buccs, Flames, Tigers aren't overly big but can put up big numbers...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pretty good rankings there. Only change I would possibly make is swapping Cougars and Lightning.

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Anonz  
Years ago

2014 League points leader Quinn McDowell making his way back to Willetton from round 8 is what I'm hearing. Was close to signing at the start but was already playing elsewhere and didn't want to have early games without 2 imports.

Wonder what's going to be their rotation? Scott, armour, Davis, McDowell, Cody?

Clarke, Easley, noordhoek, burston off the bench? Killer starting 5

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Anyone know when/if Jervis will be available this season?

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Anonz, if you are correct with the info on Quinn then that would put Tigers right up there as championship favourites.

Round 8 would be about when he would be available from the Spanish league but I don't think he will be coming back to Perth.

I can't see how the Willo budget would have room for another import as well.

I'm sure that if there is the possibility of getting another import should Easley become unrestricted then the Tigers will look to do this, as that is what you need to do to compete with the top teams...

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

FYI, McDowell was injured three weeks ago and hasn't played since March 6: http://www.palenciabasket.com/noticia-comentario/1405/parte-medico-sobre-la-lesion-de-quinn-mcdowell/

Besides, the LEB Gold season doesn't finish until mid-April, so I doubt he'd be here by Round 8 if at all..

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imwithstupid  
Years ago

Easley is restricted whole season next season unrestricted.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Doubt McDowell will be at Willeton then. If another club has the spot available then he would be a great grab. Easily one of the best imports of the last 5-10 years.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perry Lakes Hawks. Please see above.

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Perry Lakes need a guy now, Quinn not available for at least a month.
Also Quinn has probably moved past the SBL and looking to build on his solid season in the Spanish LEB Gold league.

Hawks have probably missed the boat on a lot of guys that have a few years of professional experience, and are good players.

They probably need to look at recent college graduates. An eager rookie looking to start their professional career would be what they need...

Towns from Kentucky would be a good fit

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lel  
Years ago

Yeah I doubt McDowell is coming back to Perth. He really was a star and humble too, brief stints at D-league where apparently his fitness stopped him getting to the NBA, but here in the SBL he was playing 45:00mins a game and was easily one of the fittest.

I signed up for an account over at the sbl forum but no activation after a week...

Im just going to put my tips in for this week here and see if anyone wants to add :)

Joondalup over Stirling, not a walkover, maybe 10points
Slammers to keep on rolling by 15points v Magic
Tigers to just get over the line v Lakeside, 5 points (if scott makes an occasional 3)
Geraldton far too strong at home v Suns, 15 points
Slammers to seal the double vs Giants, 18 points
Rockingham in a close one, Cockburn aren't bad, 5 points
Redbacks to get by East Perth, depends if imports turn up 9 points
Rockingham to make the most of Conrads departure (not that he brought much) 12 points

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Anonymous  
Years ago

IO - Towns would be very nice but would be a week from finishing the tourney and then four weeks pissed. Hawks would be out of contention by then.

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Tiges  
Years ago

Vague for Most Over-rated Player award

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The kids only 19 hard to say he is over-rated.
Has put up good numbers in the MBL already, will get better.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Over-Rated... turn it up Tiges!! Kid is 19, and just LED the WA U20 boys at nationals. If it was not for him, WA probably would not have won most of the games they did!

If we are talking over-rated players - look in your own backyard... Easley some how gets contracts yet has more skill accessorising with sweatbands, sleeves and colour coding his shoes than he does with getting the ball in the hoop enough!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

stupid to vote Vague most over rated player! a teenager thats achieved more in his short career than you will have ever in your entire life. On the Australian U19s team and Wildcats DP. turn it up mate you just bitter that you're the last guy coming off the bench in your under 20s team.

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Old fogey  
Years ago

Is there a problem with sporting pulse or is it a BWA problem. Was looking at the women's fixtures and it only goes up to round 4. I assume it's not a 4 round season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

When is the SBL going to bite the bullet and let RANDOM do the game preveiws ?

He is much better than the current writers thay have there.

Thoughts ?


20Fifteen Week Four Preview
by R@nD0m » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:43 pm

Week 3 Review In Short - Flames take care of Redbacks in Rocko / Magic give Hawks first W of year before bouncing back for gritty win over a Perth side struggling for cohesion at the moment / Surprise packet Cougars just go down to Willo, before comfortable win over the reigning Champs / Buccs pushed by God Squad in Gero, but still prove too strong down stretch / Handy debut by Muo not enough to get Giants their first win of year over Wolves / Slammers defeat Stirling in a high scoring affair in Warwick, before ending their Double Header with easy win over Suns in Eaton

Welcome to Week 4 of the 20Fifteen SBL Season, the Easter Long Weekend. A few local derbies this weekend, but most of all its time to enjoy those in your presence, regardless of what club they come from... and where the art of giving and seeing the smiles on loved ones faces means far more than any Win on the court, as well as to see kids faces light up on Sunday after the 'Easter Bunny' has left them some delights (Just Quietly... it is getting more and more expensive to be the Easter Bunny each year isn't it!? And since when was it cool to put Easter Eggs out the week AFTER the Christmas / New Years period!? Next thing you know they have Halloween gear in stores by the end of May! ) Here is my look at this weeks games:

Senators @ Joondalup
So the boys from Warwick head north up Wanneroo Rd to take on their local arch rivals the Wolves in what should be an interesting game going off recent results. Joondalup certainly didnt have things their own way up in the Goldfields last Saturday night, and had it not been for some individual brilliance from Trian & Seb, both former Stirling juniors it should be noted, the Wolves could now be 2 - 1 rather than the 3 - 0 they currently sit on. Stirling on the other hand, lost their third straight game on the trot at the hands of the Slammers, and after what appeared to be a promising start to the Season, desperately need a win now to regain some much needed confidence. The hard thing with the Wolves is they have a heap of Scoring options, so scouting them and shutting down their 'stars' is much easier said rather than done. Joondalup to continue their perfect start to the season, defeating the Senators by 19

Slammers @ Mandurah
The South West Stoush here as the two most southern clubs in the League do battle at Mandurah Aquatic & Rec Centre. On their night, the Magic could and do push any team in the League... such is their diversity with their 7 strong rotation. The issue for them is, as was evident against Nixy's Hawks, their consistency so far this season has been nothing short of ordinary, and those 'flaws' will definitely be exposed by the very talented Slammers side if given the opportunity tonight. South West have been ultra-impressive so far this season and will look to continue that rich vein of form up in Mandurah in this clash. Always a bit more feeling in these games, but South West's significant depth advantage across the board could prove the Magic's undoing unless Hafford, Della & Florence can assist Mully and Big Red on the offensive and defensive ends. Slammers to get the W by 9

Lightning @ Willo
If they weren't already, the alarm bells are ringing loud and clear at The Church at present, after the God Squad lost their third game on the trot (Not sure if this EVER occured during the 'Andy Era'!?), this time up in Gero last weekend. Lakeside currently one of four teams on a 1 - 3 record, and another loss here to their next door neighbours in Willo will definitely see them outside the 8 heading into Week 5. Tigers coming off an unexpected tough win over Cockburn, getting up by 2 points and you just wonder how that kind of effort will go against the stronger teams later in the season, if Willo don't get a bit more cohesive / understanding between their 'fab five'. Tigers doing enough at the moment to warrant favouritism here, with the depth or lack there of, at the moment of Lakeside's a real worry for Coach Olley moving forward. Willo by 15

Suns @ Gero
Credit to the Suns and Coach Triscari, they're definitely showing some fight even though they currently sit on a two game losing streak... Unfortunately for them they meet a now well-rested Buccs team who ironed out the cobwebs last week in their Home Opener, and in front of an expected 900-odd Maniacal Midwesters, have their work cut out for them in this one. Buccs to win the second of what I expect to be thirteen straight regular season wins at Home in 20Fifteen, belting Kalamunda by 27

Giants @ South West
Danger game here for the Slammers, after what I expect to be a very physical and draining game on Thursday night, back up on Saturday to take on a Goldfields side who are definitely eeking closer to their first win for 20Fifteen. The addition of Muo definitely assisted Haney's side, and if they can contain Harrelson and keep Voelkel from his regular 20-odd boards a game, could definitely pull of the upset down in the South West. Goldfields to push the Slammers all the way, but just come up short, losing by 5 points.

Flames @ Cockburn **Game of the Week**
What a game this promises to be. The Cougars under Coach Parsons have turned many heads this season, and even despite their loss to Willo last weekend, would have gained more fans and respect from that result than they would have lossed. They are playing with a flair and belief in each other which should be commended, and so far this year have been competitive in every single one of their games. The Flames head to Hammy Hill after a convincing win over Perth down at the Hothouse, after the Spiders got within 7 points early in the Fourth Quarter, only for the Land Brothers and Remmerswaal to lead them to a comfortable winning margin. Cougars always get up for playing what is a southern rival at 'The Den', and their parochial supporter base are worth at least 7 points each home game. Flames putting their unbeaten streak on the line in what should be a great game... Rocko to get up just, defeating a gallant Cougars by 2.

Eagles @ Perth
The story of this game is just how much both sides have struggled so far in 20Fifteen. Perth have the talent, but with a defensively lazy pair of Imports, and just an aussie contingent still coming to grips with how to play with two new Seppo's, that 'blending period' has taken far longer than Nik, Bryn & Wade would have liked, or expected for that matter. East Perth on the other hand have just been ravaged by injuries (Only suiting up 8 players versus Cockburn last week - surely some of their 18s or D League players were available?!), but the hot rumour doing the rounds late this week is that the Bassendean Bully himself, Tom Jervis, could be back in an Eagles uniform as early as this weekend!! If Jervis plays, Turner & Hooch's... I mean Turner & Brown's influence inside is well and truly nullified, and Perth's scoring options significantly dry up in the process. [b]Jervis rumours are shaky at best with Damo's wedding over east also on this weekend, so I'll go with Perth to get up in the battle of the losing streaks, winning by 6

Hawks @ Rocko
Sad loss for the Hawks with Conrad released due to bulging discs in his Back, but you really do have to admire Nixy's boys, backs against the wall against Mandurah last weekend, winless prior to that game, and on the back of an phenomenal performance by Hobbs, pull off the gritty upset win to open their account for 20Fifteen. Flames on the back end of a tough double header, but the day break in between will lessen the 'soreness and fatigue' significantly for Utley's men. Will be closer than people think, but alot of pressure on Purser & Garlepp inside to contain the likes of C Land, Remmerswaal & T Moore. Flames to get up by 11

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And to think, Chris Pike gets paid to produce his 'official' dribble each week (aka a quick scan of the schedule/boxscores followed by regurgitating the same lines each week).

I agree, give the money to someone like Random that actually follows the league/cares and can produce meaningful content for the website.I'm a bit over reading how "player X did all they could" multiple times per write up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You guys should read Pike's WAFL weekly wrap up, it's somehow even worse than his SBL reviews!

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Anon  
Years ago

Vague is certainly not overrated, but hating on Corey Easley isn't really a good idea. The guy has is coming off the bench and producing sound numbers for his minutes. Probably past the prime of his career but still getting it done. Tigers are 4-1 and Eagles are somewhere down the bottom, so don't compare those two.

I don't think it's fair to overrate players, if I was forced to if say JA tupaea as all he does is punch players off the ball to get open.

Most UNDERRATED player, maybe Nic Cody or Seva chan, though people are starting to rate him now. Jarrad Jackson could be there too..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Give me a break.. Tupaea was last years final MVP. He has played more grand finals than anyone else. Grow up

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Anon  
Years ago

You've just proven my point. He's overrated as Armour and Jervus carried that team, and he had one good stat line in a pretty poorly played grand final by both teams.

Don't give me that grand final crap, playing good in 1 game?!

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Anon  
Years ago

And actually, can you deny that he is a dirty player??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Haha this one sounds like he's been on the losing end coming up against Joe. Which grand final did you lose against him. Actually take that back you probably don't even play. Your just the loser in the crowd talking bout how you once won a game back at under 16s.

And you calling him dirty, but you wouldn't say that to his face

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone who knows anything about basketball respects Tupaea.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Playing good in one game ????

Where were you all of last winter?

Joe has intimidated you and you are scared - or scarred.

Talk to some people who have played against him for a few years. You will hear what respect is.

Then you can get down to Morley and tell him what you think to his face.

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imwithstupid  
Years ago

Tough guy coming from anonymous all class

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imwithstupid  
Years ago

Who cares anyway did anyone go to the games on Friday that care to give an educated opinion on the game or games?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

no games on good friday stupid

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imwithstupid  
Years ago

Sorry Thursday you know what I meant damn cant make mistakes on here. Must be nice to throw out hate behind your no name ass. Lol

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lel  
Years ago

Can both anons just disappear.

Anyway, I was at Tigers vs Lakeside.

Tigers kept Prue off the boards as best they could, and held Swing to a low points total. Nothing really to report, lakesides lack of depth is just killing them.

Damien Scott's shooting woes continue from deep 1/9 this week takes his season total to 9/51.... Ouch.

Armour, Davis and Easley too good, good test for the Tigers vs Eagles away. So far they are undefeated at home but lost to Joondalup earlier in the season away. Almost will be a definite loss to gero the following week, then Eastern Suns before returning home.

On a side note, tigers women's team is stacked.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Oh, how this thread has deteriorated...

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Tiges  
Years ago

RV is as one dimensional as they come. Very good catch and shooter, no plan B tho.

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Tiges  
Years ago

And that anonymous dude got a bit offended. Must be a family member. It's not like I wish the guy ill, I just don't believe he's worth the hype

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Anonymous  
Years ago

On the Tigers game, I was there and man, if anyone thinks SBL is dead should hit up a Willetton home game.

There were people in the stairwells and kids sitting around the court. One of the staff told me their official number was 752. plus an egg and spoon race for the kids and some NBL player had a half xourt shot.

I imagine gero and Kal are very similar sith their game experiences , but I do urge anyone if your team is playing away at Willetton to go visit.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Was Trent Worthington injured in 2010?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Corey standferfer to Willetton tigers

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lel  
Years ago

Not sure... But Sam Worthington was...in AVATAR he he he ...

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different  
Years ago

I was at cockburn vs rockingham last night and what a game. 3 clutch shots at the end. Gavin field hit an amazing behind the backboard shot with and and 1 to get a 1 point lead. Then taylor land being left wide open in the key way to win the game.

I was really disappointed with cockburns supporters and the way lthe night was run. First of all the guy on the mic with questionable statements like "cooper land flopping again" and "ryan Godfrey drives out of control and gets rewarded". Just call the game.

Then i heard cockburn supplied no stats for both games cause "they had no one to do them" which is a joke for an sbl club. Do they get fined for that

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Interesting bout Cockburn not doing stats. I think that's the second time it's happened.

Similar game with East vs Perth. Marshall hit a 3 to give them the lead, then East had two real good looks at three to tie it up but come up short. East only rotated 6 guys too, so unlucky not to get the win as I thought they played well.

Interesting note though talking with Redbacks coaching staff afterwards is the shot clock doesn't reset to 14 secs after offensive rebound. Everything gets reset to 24!? One set of rules for one place while the other 13 clubs play it another. Wouldn't that be a fine too?

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Red 74  
Years ago

Sbl doesn't need play by play commentary.......I was at a Cougars game and it was very annoying and unneeded. This guy was just giving his opinion I've the mike....very poor form

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Those cougars-flames stats will be lost forever... career stats will be stuffed from now on for those players. Pathetic

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Anonymous  
Years ago

BWA will get someone to watch the game tape and do that stats from that, won't be lost forever.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not good hearing about Cockburn.. Or Curtin with the 24 shot clock.

I know BWA are in a reshuffle phase so thing might be a bit hectic over there. I've seen a few BWA staff around at games to 'keep up appearances'

There are guidelines on the sbl website for announcers that they need to follow. the most important point in there is that you must only commentate on the facts, ie scores, foul counts, and only commentate on a foul after the bench is notified by the official. Sounds like this Cockburn guy didn't gave a clue..

In other news, both gero and slammers were bothered until the main break, then put in huge 3rd quarters to stay up the top. Voelkel has to be player of the week, surely..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This is at least the third season Cougars have had trouble finding someone to do the stats. Should be fixed.

No point fining these clubs when money is probably why they can't get someone to do the stats anyway.

Not sure what's worse, bias commentary or terrible music played too loud. Spectators should be able to hear the sound of body on body contact and all the other noises that go with the game.

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lel  
Years ago

Where is the music played too loud?^^

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WABS last time I was there. Don't mind the music but I like to be able to have a conversation with the person I'm sitting next to.

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lel  
Years ago

Agreed. I haven't been out there in some time but it should be monitored noise levels. Willetton received a warning last week because referees couldn't here the score bench sirens. They changed it this week though.

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gary  
Years ago

Music at Stirling is also way to loud.

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lel  
Years ago

Back on the topic of SBL games though, next week looks like an awesome fixture with all the top teams versing each other:

Flames v Buccs - Buccs finding their rhythm, should be good for this one by 10
Slammers v Wolves - slammers too big and too many options, but wolves to put up a strong fight, Slammers by 7
Wolves v Buccs - buccs to hand wolves their second loss of the weekend but this is match of the round. Both teams tired , really don't know who'll get it. Buccs in OT by 2.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

One import, eight players, no worries. Great win by the Hawks over Rocko

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Dh  
Years ago

Wow what happened to Flames Final quarter Hawks 41 Flames 20 ???

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Dh  
Years ago

Wow what happened to Flames Final quarter Hawks 41 Flames 20 ???

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Too many fouls and misses, Hawks capitalised. Hobbs and Purser were too much while Cooper missed heaps of free throws

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Dh  
Years ago

Magics new import is here Peyton Davis 6ft4"

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koberulz  
Years ago

According to the fixtures, the women's season is over already?


On the subject of women and terrible PA announcers: whoever did the women's Lakeside-Perth game earlier in the year just did play-by-play for the entire game. Even went with "so-and-so is looking for options" whenever someone was on the perimeter with the ball, and thus there was nothing for him to talk about, because apparently shutting up is beyond his capabilities.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Magics new import? Don't they already have 2?

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Dh  
Years ago

Ladies team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Rocko PA guy is terrific. He does a good job of keeping fans informed re player fouls etc (probably because he's the only person in the stadium who can see the scoreboard without straining his neck) and getting the crowd involved. Music is ok too.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Probably won't be a surprise that the Rocko PA guy and R@nD0m are the same person! ;-)

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Just saw on BWA site that Christian is acting CEO now that Mr Smith has resigned...

Nothing against Christian but I hope that this is a very short term engagement and that the process is fast tracked to get the right person.

Although with limited budget it would be hard to attract the kind of person that is needed. Someone like Nick Marvin is what BWA really need. Although he has his haters, Nick has done a great job with the Wildcats. His commercial experience and ability to translate that into a sporting environment is what is needed.

The WA basketball community doesn't need a person that just has a passion for basketball and no commercial experience. ie a long term player, coach, supporter...

Having said all of this, I bet Andy Stewart will end up getting the gig...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The way you say that makes it seem like you think Steward wouldn't be ideal for the position. Why? He has shown he has been good for WA Basketball at every level he has been involved.

Didn't someone say in this thread or on the other forum that he might be the new Waves coach anyway?

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Utmost respect for what Andy has achieved as a coach in SBL. Although never played for him or been 'behind the scenes' at Lakeside, the guy obviously knows how to get results at that level.
From what I can see he has done an ok job in his role as coach development mng for BWA. (although there really hasn't been much in this space apart from Andre Lemanis visit...)
But from my knowledge he doesn't have much exposure in the commercial world and real life business.
BWA really needs someone with successful commercial experience when it comes to stuff like negotiating for management of WABC, enticing major sponsorship, influencing Basketball Australia for $$$ etc

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Anonymous  
Years ago

BWA needs a CEO with a strong business background with really good communication and negotiating skills. One of these with sporting background would be ideal. I am not aware of anyone in the basketball community in WA who is available and fits the bill.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Believe it or not, Kyle Armour actually has amazing marketing and communication skills. He has got a whole bunch of sponsorship to Willetton this year including naming rights sponsors, and Matso's brewery.

Someone like him would actually be perfect. A bit young though I suppose.

I think Christian will be a good fit for the shoe at the moment, he has been there since forever and knows the inside out of BWA and direction. BWA are just struggling at the moment with WABL starting up, and SBL and now Rick leaving, tough times. Under staffed and under paid.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just on PA's anyone know what happened to the Willo Announcer hasn't been at the last couple of games, does a great player intro.

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Anon  
Years ago

Although both Kyle and Christian are potential candidates in about 5-8 years neither one is what BWA needs right now.

There is a bit of difference between getting a couple of sponsors that you probably have pre-existing contacts with to help an SBL team vs running a business with approx 20 FTE and probably an annual T/O of $1M+

Neither would have experience facilitating boardroom discussions, dealing with CXX from multi million dollar enterprise, managing stakeholder relationships with big organisations, HR issues with staff...

Give them 10 years experience in a business setting and maybe...

Someone that comes to mind and ticks a lot of boxes is Ryan Gardiner... or a real long shot but would be perfect Andrew Vlahov... (doubt the budget would be enough to get either...)

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Gary  
Years ago

Need a business man. Also a back ground in marketing would be handy. Doesn't have to have basketball background, but is willing to learn the environment.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ryan Gardiner would be a really good fit. Has the commercial experience needed.
Andrew Vlahov would not be a good fit.

Budget would be enough for either I think. Smith was a solicitor so wouldn't have been there for less than $150k.

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wildcatsrule  
Years ago

Hey
Sponsor the SBL please
wildcatsrule

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tigers announcers have been so much better over the last 2 weeks, the old guy was trash IMO!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So people actually like the WIllo player intros? I find them painful (and I'm a Willo supporter).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Are you kidding? Willetton obviously put a lot more effort into their home games than many clubs. Cheerleaders, player intros that aren't just reading a name and number, coaches awards and half court shots for prizes. They can ran egg and spoon race last week for the kids and their music is far better than ours (Lakeside).

Take the good with the bad I guess.

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gary  
Years ago

South-West slammers announcer and entertainment is the best by a long way.

Even seen on their Facebook that they dimmed the lights and and had special effects for their player intros.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, Slammers announcer puts a lot of effort and the player intros were awesome last week.

Lights went out and smoke was fired at the players as they came out (Ty almost choked)

I was doing the smoke by the way. I believe a good announcer can be a big part of the game

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Fellas, good to talk about about the court side announcers however lets talk more pressing issues.

Can someone rank the imports ? best to worst ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who is the best import in the league? More importantly who's is the worst?

Conrad is gone lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Best - Voekle, Lane, Davis and Turner
Worst - Bowie

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Best to Worst Imports

Cooper Land (Flames)
Jordan Swing (Lightning)
Ray Turner (Redbacks)
Tre Nichols (Slammers)
Taylor Land (Flames)
Bryton Hobbs (Hawks)
Carter Cook (Buccs)
Brian Voelkel (Slammers)
Jacob Holmen (Giants)
Kevin Davis (Wolves)
Najee Lane (Cougars)
Marshall Brown (Redbacks)
Lien Phillip (Suns)
Jay Bowie (Giants)
Quincy Hankins-Cole (Buccs)
Taylor Mullenax (Magic)
Luke Thomas (Lightning)
Ephrem Davis (Tigers)
Eric Milam (Cougars)
Paul Hafford (Magic)
Kevin Anthony (Suns)
Kyle Lindbergh (Senators)
Corey Martin (Lightning)
Corey Easley (Tigers)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Corey Martin is not an import. 21 year old aussie kid first year starter.

Your list is decent. Voelkel should be near the top of the list though. He is as dominant an import as the others. Turner should be lower, good import but one dimensional.

Hobbs is scoring a bit, but shooting like 30% isn't he??

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Interesting topic, a bit like who should win MVP... Very subjective and open to opinion.

If you go purely by numbers then the list would probably be easier to pull together. If you look at what each team is asking their import to do and the role they need to play then may be different. As an example, Ephrem Davis was not signed to put up huge pts for Tigers. They want a solid rebounder and defender who changes shots and can guard other teams bigs. Any points are a bonus.

Anyways my attempt at the list based purely on if I was to start a new team and got to pick the imports to build around. (doesn't help that BWA don't have stats up to date again...)

Brian Voelkel (Slammers)
Cooper Land (Flames)
Jordan Swing (Lightning)
Tre Nichols (Slammers)
Carter Cook (Buccs)
Lien Phillip (Suns)
Bryton Hobbs (Hawks)
Jacob Holmen (Giants)
Ray Turner (Redbacks)
Quincy Hankins-Cole (Buccs)
Kevin Davis (Wolves)
Taylor Mullenax (Magic)
Najee Lane (Cougars)
Marshall Brown (Redbacks)
Taylor Land (Flames)
Jay Bowie (Giants)
Luke Thomas (Lightning)
Ephrem Davis (Tigers)
Eric Milam (Cougars)
Paul Hafford (Magic)
Kevin Anthony (Suns)
Kyle Lindbergh (Senators)
Corey Easley (Tigers)

*Not sure where Ty, Clive, Bennie fit in list (just joking...)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That guy who had voelkel like 8th clearly hasn't seen his stats, or slammers record...or a game of basketball..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Watch the Slammers every week, Voelkel doesn't like to shoot but a very dominant player

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agreed ^^^
But I think najee lane is tough, makes cougars better.
Cook, c land and Davies all make there teams a lot better whilst still getting there looks. Swing is the most skillful.
Turner, Phillips, Nichols, all are quality dominate imports aswell

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lel  
Years ago

Best -
Guard-Land
Big-Voelkel

Worst
Guard - Anthony (who isn't terrible)
Big- Conrad (but now Lindberg)

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imwithstupid  
Years ago

Kevin Davis is avg like 31 20 something in PER which is more realistic. Take total min in all games divide that by total played and take that answer and multiply it to his stats and you get PER. ;)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Voelkel and T Land are both very dominant non scoring imports. Land runs that team perfectly and is a great defender. Voelkel could be up there in MVP if the other 3 imports on slammers don't steal votes.

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imwithstupid  
Years ago

NBA comps for SBL players which SBL players have similar games to what NBA guys go!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

T Land=Rondo
C Land=Love
Swing=Harden
Nichols=Montae
Harrelson=CP3
Kyrie=Trian
Mulenax=ZBO

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Conrad - Laettner

Brown - Metta World Peace

hahahaha

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Harrelson more of a J.Kidd I reckon

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Comment #500!!!!! Whoooo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

500+ man! SBL getting some recognition, I will be at he top of the table clash this Saturday night between the Slammers and Wolves, should be beauty.

Slammers height not enough, Wolves by 8

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Prue - deandre Jordan
Swing - harden
Mullenax - Randolph
Damien scott - kyle Korver (in 3pt attempts, not makes)
Kevin davis - kawhi Leonard
Dech - oladipo
Ephrem davis - golbert

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Conrad-kwame brown

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Anonymous  
Years ago

From random at the SBL forum:

20Fifteen Week 5 Preview
Postby R@nD0m » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:23 am

Week 4 Review in Short: Wolves remain unbeaten after comfortable win / Slammers convincing double header win puts League on notice / Field 'Did all he could' in thriller loss to Flames in Hammy Hill / Gero & Willo with easy Home wins / Rocko give up 40 in fourth to lose to Hawks / Redbacks outlast Eagles at Curtin

Lightning @ Mandurah
God Squad in DESPERATE need of a win, currently on a four game drought, head to the Peel capital to take on a Magic side who are yet to win two in a row in 20Fifteen. Despite some assurances from players of a definite win over Slammers last week (Still waiting for that bottle too mate... I think Dan Murphy's has a sale on atm :lol: ) Mandurah's double digit loss did little to prove their Finals worthiness. Form says Mandurah HAS to win this but they're just so inconsistent this year it really is tough to pick them, whilst for Lakeside - the splash brothers in Hayden Bell or Krump Jackson are due for a big one... could this be it?! Zero confidence at all but i'll go with Magic by 9

Hawks @ Stirling
Got to see the comeback that was Perry Lakes win over the Flames first hand last week. Purser was great inside and Hobbs, even with all of his theatrics and claims of assault every time an opposition player breathes on him, was the main reason the Hawks overcame their 17 point half time deficit to get the win. Stirling lost the north-metro derby rather embarrassingly and despite some pre-season hype on the expectations this season, their current form and lack of output from some players leaves alot to be desired for Lindstrom's men. I think the Hawks are entitled to be favourites heading into this, and for good reason too. Senators to have no answer for Hobbs, as Perry Lakes wins by 7

Buccs @ Rocko
Flames were nothing short of ordinary in the second half last Monday, but credit has to be given to the Hawks who came out from the Half Time break determined to at least close the gap and see how it played out. Massive challenge for Rocko here as one of the form teams of the comp enters the Hothouse for what should be a fantastic clash. Hez's boys were untroubled in their 30 point shellacking of the Suns in Gero last weekend, and with a very tough double header ahead of them, if they manage to win both - will have even the likes of South West very worried moving forward! Should be a classic down in Rocko, but the Buccs are just in too good a form to look past. Gero to get up by 5

Redbacks @ Goldfields
Strong rumours of disharmony amongst the Perth side doing the rounds at present, with the 'ima get my numbers / F*** the team...' attitude of Brown and to a lesser extent Turner, apparently starting to wear very thin with some of the local products. The Giants on the other hand, on a rare one game road trip, were outclassed down in Eaton and getting back to the confines of Brookman St Stadium could be enough to get Haney's boys their first W of the year if Muo can repeat his first-up efforts on their home court. I almost made this Game of the Week purely because I think the Giants are a real show in this!! Perth to get up, just... winning by 2 points

Wolves @ South West **Game of the Week**
Top of the Table clash here, and what a doozy this should be down in the South West on Saturday night. Wolves on a four game winning streak, Slammers undefeated from seven games this year ='s what should be one of the best games of the year including Finals. Salinas, Illiadis, Davis & Huntington vs Harrelson, Voelkel, Nichols & Weeden... WOW!! I am tipping at least one Overtime, and a very fiery atmosphere on and off the court in this one! Wolves to get bragging rights, winning by 3

Tigers @ East Perth
Jervis due back for this one makes it very interesting against a Willo side who are just starting to hit their strides at present given their past three games have landed them 3 W's. The question is do the Eagles have the depth across the board to contain the Fab Five of the Tigers. Tigers to make it four in a row, winning by 12

Cougars @ Shed in the Sticks
One thing is for certain, and I will call this now... Cockburn WILL play finals in 20Fifteen. They have definitely shown enough in the first Four Weeks to prove to myself, and the rest of the League for that matter that Lane, Field & Co have the talent, depth and teamwork required to at least be nuisance value come July, and might even surprise one or two teams in the process! Kalamunda on the slide sounds all too familiar from years gone by, and unfortunately for them I don't think their luck is going to change anytime soon here, despite this game being at home. Cougars to consolidate their spot in the Top 8, winning by 11

Buccs @ Joondalup
Had both sides not been on the back end of very tough double headers, AND the second placed Wolves not been taking in the League Leading Slammers, this would've been a given for game of the week honours. Taking all that into account, I still think both these sides have the depth and skill to make this more than worth the price of entry to JBS. If Wunders can contain Huntington, I think the Wolves will struggle to matchup on Carter & Bennie, whilst the matchup of DT vs Trian should be phenomenal. Buccs to make it seven in a row ahead of a home Week Six clash with the Tigers, defeating the Wolves by 5.

Flames @ The Church
Both teams on the back up following earlier games in the weekend, and for Rocko its a road game to a venue which has not been kind to them in recent times. Lakeside will look to Swing, Thomas & Dixon to lead the way here but might struggle to contain the Flames Guard stocks in T Land, Godfrey & Roberts if its an uptempo style game. Flames to bounce back from their loss to Gero, defeating the Lightning by 8

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

So no Player of the Week for Round 4 then?

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2016 OLYMPICS  
Years ago

Bet they won't have a player of the week for about the next 3 then they will flurry through when someone can be stuffed doing it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WABL fixtures haven't even been released yet. They obviously need more staff, or more capable staff...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Damn, would like to have been at lakeside v Mandurah!

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Dh  
Years ago

Great game close throughout Swing had 48 points and was unstoppable. Rhett Della was strong for Mandurah spent the night at the free throw line. Haffords 3 point winning shot had the supporters up .great 3

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Turner with 45, Bowie with 40 - tough game. Giants just can't catch a break

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imwithstupid  
Years ago

Any observations from sat and sundays games??

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gary  
Years ago

cougars won an ugly game. suns were in control most of the game. never put the cougars away. Gavin field got hot for 2 minutes and cougars win by a point.

Cougars had 25 extra shots then the suns, both teams combined for over 50 turn overs.

Umpiring standard was poor. Over officiated.

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moo  
Years ago

Eagles tigers was over called too. Foul counts through the roof.

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imwithstupid  
Years ago

So thats the refs covered anyone have some knowledge on the actual game?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think the standard of officiating this season has been nothing short of horrible.

There are only three refs in the league in Campbell, Houghton & Bull who actually have a decent feel for the games and can let the players do what they do best, play.

The current younger crop of Panel 1 referees - in particular Grist, S Diconza and Co ref with their Ego's first and their actual talent a long second... And the worst part is they're not being held accountable by the referee coaches.

I'm not paying my hard earned money each week to see games ruined by poor pairings or Referee's who think they are bigger than the game!

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lel  
Years ago

I am so glad someone else brought it up about Grist and DiConza's ego, because its shocking. I had the pleasure of being at a game where BOTH of them where on court, and man...during the last possession of the game, Grist walked up to the home coach, mentioned something to him, and then the coach went to politely ask a question and Grist yelled 'NO, NO MORE CONVERSATION'. He then went to the away coach and did the EXACT same thing. Power abuse much.

anyway, with that rant over East Perth vs Tigers:

Tigers were up by 20 or something in the first quarter, but east perth chipped away at it with Nic Cody and Ephrem Davis in foul trouble. East Perth then got their own foul trouble (why are they only playing 7 dudes?!) and lost the lead to Easley knocking down some shots. Good defense by the Tigers again forced 25 turnovers and they had 10 steals.

Fun stat= Tigers bench outscored East Perth 48-2...


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Anonymous  
Years ago

They are both good refs it's a shame for the egos. The junior and senior ref tag team is working as best as you could expect at the moment. The younger refs are struggling to remain confident in their calls with some players going at them.

A few big results on the weekend...

Rocko losing two, sees them struggling
Redbacks got a good win moving into the 8
Buccs two good wins, not sure they would take the wolves with Seb in the lineup though.
Wolves take down slammers in Bunbury with no Seb.
Willo keep beating the teams below them
Lakeside lose on a buzzer beater by hafford and then beat rocko

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moo  
Years ago

This week :

Slammers by 15
Wolves by 12
Lakeside by 5
Gero by 6 GAme of the round
Giants by 12
Flames by 7
Mandurah by 6
Slammers by 20
Joondalup by 16
Mandurah by 6

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Check out

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialWolfpackBasketball

Friday around 9am.

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Red 74  
Years ago

What are you pointing here?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Either timms returning or hire/import?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Robbo back with Wolves!

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red74  
Years ago

my bad..............didnt read it properly

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I actually think he makes the team worse on paper.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

His last stint with the Wolves wasn't exactly inspiring. Out of shape and spending most of his time on court throwing his weight around and roughing players up. Is it worth rocking the boat to bring in a washed up NBL role player?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Definitely not worth it if it takes minutes away from Ironmonger. Probably the best young guard in the league.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great move by the wolves. Robbo in a 10 minute a game role is very different to needing him to play 25-30 mins. Brings some basketball smarts and some size for the guard stocks. Gives the pack more flexibility than they had a week ago - just as long as robbo is not expecting big minutes and wants to be part of the team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another signing at the expense of a juniors court time. Any locals play SBL there now?
The sooner BWA get another club running to tap the enormous catchment area that is our northern suburbs the better basketball in WA will be.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Robbo's gut is an enormous catchment area

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lel  
Years ago

Haha^ well played. If he can accept bench minutes then fine, but I really don't like the idea of him taking mins off Questel and Ironmonger... What ever happened to Locals...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A few questions following a big round of SBL!

Why didn't Cooper Land play??
Who will be the 6th man of the year? Matacz or Prue
Can Jervis help the eagles climb or is it too late?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Suns boys told me Land is injured
Even with Jervis the Eagles are done, zero bench and again only suiting up 8 players (Where was Vague?)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Vague was ill i heard

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lel  
Years ago

Ahhh...surely HankinsCole needs to be considered sixth man of the year?

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2016 OLYMPICS  
Years ago

He is the sixth man of the year so far for sure, In my opinion Ty Harrelson has to be the front runner for a MVP as of right now. Lead his team to a 9-1 start and is putting up numbers that amaze me. He doesn't look like the best player on the court but he always gets the numbers and it's amazing. 23-6-6

He is my MVP pick so far

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lel  
Years ago

I definitely think Ty is worthy of an award, but I'm thinking Coach of the Year so far...

MVP to Voelkel. He's transformed that team.

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2016 OLYMPICS  
Years ago

Voelkel and how about Tre Nichols averaging a lazy 27 PPG. Clive also been solid along with an improved Worthington

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Very true Hankins Cole needs to be in the conversation, probably the front runner at the moment.

Ty might be the MVP, not sure anyone from the slammers will win it though with the way the voting system works. Could all get votes every night

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aqauman  
Years ago

Surely Bennie Lewis has to be a mention for MVP
28 ppg, 6 rpg, 3.6 apg and shooting 45.5% FG. His team is 8-1 and the only game they lost was against a good Bunbury team under very auspicious circumstances with wet courts the entire game, 30 minute delay to start the game and 3 tech fouls and an unsportsmanlike against his team, with 3 guys from the Buccaneers fouled out. Surely Bennie Lewis has to be in the mix for MVP and would be my first choice.

He also scored 43 points against Bunbury shooting 15-26.


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Peter  
Years ago

Bunbury's 4 x imports will be taking votes of each other.

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aqauman  
Years ago

i agree with that.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

aquaman: were the courts only wet for Geraldton? Also, he scored 43 that game as you mentioned so the courts couldn't have been that much of an issue..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Obviously not, as far as i know two teams play a game of basketball, but when both teams have to play zone to be able to play defence then it becomes a shootout from behind the arc. Not the most ideal way to play a basketball game now is it?

Lewis scored 43 points, that has nothing to do with the courts being wet or not. Bennie played well plain and simple. Shot well! The fact games had to be postponed and every time a team was running down the other end, a group of kids had to run on and wipe the court, its pretty pathetic. Horrible in fact for any rhythm and when a team has already traveled 7-8 hours to get to the place i cannot imagine its an ideal thing to have to wait another 30-45 minutes on that same day due to poor management of when to shampoo a court.

I'm sure if you asked anyone involved in the game, they would tell you it was horrible to play on and very dangerous at times. Changing direction couldn't have been fun

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lel  
Years ago

Pity for Jordan Swing he has a dud team, from all accounts I've heard from players, he's a straight up baller. Remind me, is voting 3, 2, 1 for the game or from each team?

Slammers and Joondalup players all take votes of each other, so could the MVP come from say...Rockingham?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jordan Swing is legit. very tough offensive player. Little average on the Defensive end and can be soft at times. but offensively he can do a little bit of everything. A quicker version of Luke Payne in my eyes from what I have seen thus far. Cannot believe he didn't get POW when they played Mandurah and Rockingham. Disgrace in my eyes. He drops 48 against Mandurah and lose on the buzzer and then backs it up with a win and another 30+ point game against at the time a top 4 team in Flames. Perth Redbacks beat a subpar team and Turner gets POW. Boggles my mind how that works. Surely they take strength of schedule in to account?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Could say the same about Ray Turner. 26/17/2.5 blocks... MVP numbers... dud team.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Regarding Vague's absence from East Perth's game, it appears to have something to do with the Australian Emus selection camp, per http://www.wildcats.com.au/article/id/12pm7xk8m3yz711vvppgrwqzow

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Voting is 3,2,1 by both coaches

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Coaches of the year to date?

Coaches who have the Standout teams like Harrelson, Ettridge, Heron or to a coach who has currently improved the squads expectation like Parsons at Cockburn or Kyle at Mandurah?
Would love to know each squads budget when thining of this award.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Especially Mandurahs "budget"... Whatever happened to all the money that went missing last year? Heard nothing since

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lel  
Years ago

Yeah I'm also pretty curious about Mandurahs $75,000 blackhole, when they're paying 2 imports plus Jarrad Jackson (and WSBL players). Someone posted earlier in the thread that BWA helped out, which is poor if clubs can just run into debt and expect to get bailed out. Maybe they shouldn't of spent so much on their graphic design of a new logo and uniforms?! (It is a sick logo though)

I for one would of preferred that they take a year off SBL, recover the money through juniors (heaps of them travel to Rockingham and Willetton to play) and then enter again. I imagine Mullenax wouldnt come cheap.

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Dh  
Years ago

Where did you get The $75000.00f from I dont believe BWA would be in a position to help any club financially

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lel  
Years ago

Sorry I had that number in my head for some reason, but j just went back to mandurahs website and looked at their financial statement for 2014. $160,000 operating loss, 50,000 of that was due to an increase of player payments from 2013 to 2014...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mandurah was helped out by someone internally, namely a board member who contributed a low interest loan to get the club back towards the positive. They have also fund raised a substantial amount in the off season and brought in new sponsors. BWA did not help them out apart from assisting them with the legalities of the circumstances surrounding their ex head coach. Good on them for doing it I say.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I wouldn't be so sure JJ is getting paid?
I think he just wanted the minutes. If he played at redbacks he would be getting 3rd string PG mins behind Wags and AJ.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

mandurah is an interesting case, as i am very certain bake sales and masters bbqs dont get your team out of that much debt just magically (no pun intended).

To be in that much debt and when club people are saying that the SBL have helped out financially as its better to have them in the league than out then it sets a precedent to other teams who are struggling. I honestly would love to know how Perry Lakes survive PERIOD!!!!

They play in the most expensive place in the SBL and they get literally 25 people at their games. They must be paying imports but for some reason they always seem to be able to stay afloat.

Would love to know how that works. Its the best place to play but the worst place to play because its so boring and dead when you play there. Would be awesome for a Goldfields or Gero to be able to have those facilities as they get more than a man and a dog at the games.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I know of at least one club that is charged far more than Hawks, or anyone else in the league for that matter, for court hire than what is charged at WABC.

Jackson IS getting paid, as is Mullenax, Hafford, One of the Della's, Florence & Mcilroy - anyone who believes different is delusional. $150,000 loss yet if it wasn't for SN, they would be well and truly down the gurgler. Speaking of that loss, is J Chalk not the king of Hide n Seek at the moment!?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

5 players plus the coach under the salary cap? Imports must be on peanuts then..

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So week 6 has come and gone, Buccs and Slammers are setting the pace but the middle of the ladder is slowly getting sorted as teams play each other. Some teams may not have a great record but have already played the better teams while others might be getting a false sense of security as they have played more lower ranked teams.

I would be interested to hear the opinions on how some of the more high profile player moves have panned out so far...

1) Damien Scott
Has gone from averaging 20+ pts to 16ppg and is shooting at a horrible clip of 17% from 3.
But his team is 5-2.
From a personal point he hasn't improved his NBL chances at this stage but if he can turn his shooting % around he could easily get back to 20ppg.
Successful move - No (Cockburn would probably be 7-2 with him and his numbers would likely be higher)

2) Kyle Armour
Had a break out year, allstar, and SBL title in 2014. This was always going to be hard to top.
His ppg averages are down with asst sitting at 5.4
Once again his team is 5-2 so would be happy with this.
His opportunity for an NBL gig has probably past now so might see his numbers drop as other priorities present.
Successful move - Yes (Eagles would still be struggling with him. Although has become a bit of a journeyman it does help that he has returned to original club.)


3) Jared Jackson
Having a break out year personally and his team is going fairly well at 6-3.
Has really benefitted from the move and starting for Magic. He has had a couple games of 9:1 asst:TO and is averaging just over 11ppg and could increase this by a couple by improving shooting %.
Should continue to improve as he gets used to playing with team mates and taking more ownership of the team as PG.
Successful move - Yes (starting to become one of the top 5 point guards in league. Team looking good at 6-3.)

4) Daniel Thomas
Coming back from a major injury and appears to be working himself back into form.
Couldn't ask anymore from the team point of view. Sitting at 8-1 and could have easily been 9-0 if they got that early game against Slammers.
From a personal point his ppg and asst are down but this would be expected in a talented team and his current role.
Not sure if he is back to 100% fitness but has made a great comeback from injury.
Successful move - Yes (Team is championship favourite, he has made a good comeback from injury and playing a vital role)

5) Seva Chan
Having a breakout year this season. PPG at 17ppg which is a career high and makes him around 3rd top scoring PG behind Ty/Armour.
Also avg 5+ asst. But the 4 TOs hurt him.
By end of season will probably be in top 5 PGs in league.
Successful move - Yes (may have got some opportunity at Cougars but is relishing running the Suns team. Will only get betting with time.)

6) Ben Smith
Numbers are well down on last season. Shooting % are not good at this stage. Probably not accurate to compare against last year as he was in a unique situation and part of an interesting system. He had a green light and really took advantage of that by being the #1 scoring option.
This year he is behind the imports so probably 3rd option (at best) and wouldn't get many plays run for him.
Successful move - Yes (will be part of a finals team and probably would have been in same situation at Suns with their new imports.)

7) Joel Questel
Numbers down slightly and shooting % not where it has been in previous years. Would still be getting used to the new system and playing with other guys.
Not sure how adding Robbins to the roster will affect him and also with Ironmonger having a good year, Questel might start to see his opportunities shrink.
Team is travelling well (I think they should be undefeated with the roster they have put together)
Successful move - Yes (will experience team success and a long playoff run. Longer term it might not be the best move for him as Wolves would be wanting to promote Ironmonger as he is one of their few local players...)

8) Louis Timms
Rain check...


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lel  
Years ago

^^ Curtin? I can't imagine that venue comes too cheaply.

Jarrad is getting paid (verified by the man himself). Most of it is allowances for travel as he lives in Perth.

Here's some SBL attendace figures for you from 2014:

Weekly attendance figures (final reg season placing):
1-Geraldton 892 (1)
2-Goldfields 730 (14)
3-South West 494 (8)
4-Willetton 452 (12)
5-Stirling 436 (5)
6-Rockingham 419 (2)
7-Lakeside 411 (4)
8-Cockburn 327 (11)
9-East Perth 318 (7)
10-Mandurah 304 (6)
11-Perry Lakes 280 (10)
12-Kalamunda 228 (13)
13-Perth 204 (3) *Didnt supply 6 home attendance figures
14-Joondalup 177 (9)

1,100 was the highest attendance Gero v Willetton (ActiveWest)

From those figures, placing on the ladder really doesn't have much to do with attendance, though I would beg to differ after seeing the attendance from one improved association.

It'll be fun seeing 2015 numbers, I imagine Perry Lakes and East Perth falling, Willetton and Perth (you'd hope) increasing?


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Anonymous  
Years ago

You'd have to reckon Perry Lakes survive due to their large junior comp. They also reside in the land of the well healed. With about 160 kids playing WABL there must be a couple of parents willing to kick in a bit. For many years basketball administrators have known any SBL team operating our of a shire rec centre is going to struggle financially.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

> 11-Perry Lakes 280 (10)

OMG that is really low. That is literally 25 people.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

well 28 people, but yeah!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

there is no way perry lakes has better attendance than joondalup or perth. No chance what so ever. Anyone who has ever been to a game will know 50 max at best. You see more fans from opposing teams than their own.

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I think you will find the 280 is the weekly attendance... The (10) is the final placing...

It isn't 280/10=28... Although it feels like there is only 28 people there...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

280 people per game... (10) ='s where they finished on the Ladder - Public Schooling being represented oh so well yet again in the Metropolitan area by the clowns on here >:-/

Most Overrated Import this Year aka John Dickson Award? I say Brown from Perth

Most Underrated Import? Lane from Cockburn

My Final Top 8 (Let's see who get's closest this early into the piece)

Buccs
Wolves
Slammers
Tigers
Cougars
Flames
Magic
Redbacks

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Dickson may not have had too many fans from opposing teams/fans but he was definitely not overated...
29.2ppg, 10.6 rpg, 2.5 apg, 2spg, 3 TOpg
These are not really the numbers of an overated import...

Having seen him play a couple of times I think if you take away all the antics he was one of the better imports, and as he was straight out of college, I think he will develop into a player that is too 'good' for the SBL.

I agree with most of your top 8 but mine would be:
- Buccs
- Wolves
- Slammers
- Redbacks
- Tigers
- Magic
- Flames
- Lakeside

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He definitely got the numbers, it never translated to results unfortunately. His attitude was just so horrible that he wasn't really thought of as anything else.

My overrated vote goes to the wolves import. I don't think he's as good as the first few weeks numbers show

Underrated- either of the cougars imports for sure. Both are solid and work hard. Havent seen the suns big guy yet but getting some monster games

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Anonymous  
Years ago

ps wheres random!!

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Oscar  
Years ago

Remember the weekly attendance is total people through the doors, not max at any one time.

Underrated import: Najee Lane
- Buccs
- Slammers
- Wolves
- Tigers
- Magic
- Cockburn
- Flames
- Redbacks

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I actually asked random last night on FB why no previews. He's been told by the powers that be at BWA if he wants to be considered for State Coaching positions in the coming six to twelve months, no more previews etc

I think this is BS from a BWA perspective telling him what to do, especially seeing its a humorous but in-depth look at the League which no-one else really does, especially the douche's who currently do the writeups on the SBL website!

Having said that though, I have known the guy for some time, and seeing how much he has gotten into his coaching the past few years down at Rockingham, he will do as the powers want to progress further up the Coaching ranks - and fair enough too :-)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Isn't life good here in the USSR where we only have a little censorship or restriction on freedom of speech.
BWA have no balls, sit there terrified of criticism or controversy and hide behind their castle walls.
It is no wonder BWA is leading basketball nowhere in WA.
Lets hope the new CEO is not a eunuch!!!

RIP Randoms great previews

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If this is true about Random it just shows what level of people we have at BWA...

Random has consistently promoted the SBL and successfully driven interest in the league. He doesn't really have any negativety in his posts or say to much that would be viewed as controversial (testing my spelling...)

The only thing that he does that might annoy BWA is show how there is a total lack of any marketing coming out of that office...

BWA is a joke... The only thing that they are doing well is holding back basketball in WA...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wow if that's true then what the f. What a joke by BWA.

Speaking of this kind of thing. Why is the radio show only 25 mins long?

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Peter  
Years ago

I wouldnt know, I have been trying to download the podcast but no luck!

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gary  
Years ago

i wish the wildcats bought the whole of BWA and not just the waves

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Oscar  
Years ago

I know their drive has been for WABL these last 12 months and not so much SBL. It's a shame because this year has actually produced on the the best fields with top 3 clumped together, then a solid midfield of about 5 or 6 teams and then the rest, compared to last years Geraldton domination. Add quality imports and we really have a good SBL league this year.

Hopefully they can turn things around!

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humph  
Years ago

Overrated- the fans of WA basketball sure there's a few that know what there talking about but for the most part clueless.

Underrated-all the imports considering they have played basketball at a higher level than all the other players in the league combined.

Top 8
Gero
Wolves
Tigers
Slammers
Magic
Redbacks
Cougars
Flames

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't download the podcast, complete waste of time. 35 minutes are of shit music and for a 25 minute show. 10 of those minutes were spent talking to a 14 year old kid. Absolute shit no way I'm listening next week

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Greeny  
Years ago

If BWA have stopped Random doing previews how about they step up and do something then. Why bother listening to the SBL radio show, they're probably censored on what they can say as well.
Looking forward to them employing a CEO that can get things moving

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Anonymous  
Years ago

BWA are a bunch of self-interested wasters.

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lel  
Years ago

Haha humphs post..

Overrated- Redbacks in Feb

Underrated - possession arrow, TF-1000 legacy, Cockburn in Feb

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Overrated - Matt Cecins

Underrated - Scott Harrelson

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Random isn't the first or last person to be "talked to" about having an opinion.

I was a part of the Radio Show the last 2 seasons, not anymore.

Unfortunately the SBL only wants propaganda, not real discussion.

And heaven forbid anyone even remotely suggests an Official makes an error

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Opinions about obvious downfalls and things they are lacking in?? A bit rough if you ask me. The league is clearly lacking in numerous areas, but heaven forbid if its said in public

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Paul Pierce  
Years ago

Someone step up and make some noise. Someone do a SBL podcast or write a blog or whatever lot of opinions but no one wanting to do anything about it.

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

Any ideas on the new CEO?
Has the position been advertised?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone willing to do the same maths for the mens strength of schedule that just appeared on the website?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So has Random been gagged by the league? Or just been given some sort of warning?

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Ganymede 37  
Years ago

Over-rated
All the guys that left Cockburn between this season and last

Under-rated
The ones who stayed

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Anonymous  
Years ago

For what i've been told, he has been 'strongly advised' if he wants to fulfil his state team coaching aspirations in the near future, he has to stop with the previews for fear of getting clubs offside, then in the worst case scenario a kid from that club misses out on a State Team gig, could come back to bite him and BWA in the Butt.

This came directly from him over social media earlier today.

Media wise - I am not a fan of Cecins, but at least he is promoting the League with Mansfield on the new radio show. If we compare what we do to what they do over East... SEABL have their own YouTube Channel, weekly highlights etc. The problem we have is the League, or more to the point the SBL has burnt several of those bridges (LMSC comes to mind) who are capable of such a production, in the past and so now there are even fewer options than the limited ones which would be on the table in an ideal world.

I read this forum and I know Random said something similar to me earlier on, but if all the people on here were as passionate in a practical sense as we are in a written form - the League would be a better place. It's damn easy to have a crack at BWA because on here your just a nobody, but Christian / Adam / Tiwai etc are very restricted in what they can and can't do, as per the direction given to them by the BWA Board of Directors.

If YOU want to make a difference to the League, rather than just whinge about what we do and don't have, get involved with your local club - set up a Social Media page or YouTube page and post highlights / blogs etc and then others will be encouraged to do the same. It sucks that Trav won't be doing the previews but the League needs more Random's... We could have a great product, but we definitely need more contributors. Stop taking the easy option and blaming BWA when your too busy being Keyboard Heroes rather than legitimately getting off your backside to make something we quite clearly all love... BETTER!

Whinge over!!

Over-Rated... Matt Cecins as a so-called 'Expert' (Stephen Charlton, Darren Russell & Scott Rubery = Experts) Cleveland Cavs (LeBron doesn't deserve another ring) Sydney Swans (COLA is the only reason they can remain competitive!)

Under-Rated... Forrest Gump (The Movie, not the Man!) Atlanta Hawks (They will win the East!) Young WABL Referees (Good luck to all the little tackers getting set for 18 weeks of abuse from 50% of spectators on every call, all so they can get a $2.50 medal in September so Mum or Dad can be proud of them getting a Grand Final!)

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Remember that Cecins is also heavily involved with the Redbacks, so has to toe the "company line" a bit there. I'm also sure if you ask him, he'd say he was far from an expert, that was something anointed by the SBL, rather than say "SBL personality" or something like that.

It is true that it's quite easy to comment on here and then do nothing. It is also quite difficult to effect change from within too. Even getting approval to film a game or be a media member isn't an easy thing.

Unfortunately right now there is too much emphasis on not upsetting select Clubs, rather than doing the right thing for the League as a whole.

Take a look at the fixturing where Clubs like Willo get to say their own Courts are never available on a Friday or Lakeside saying the same for Saturdays. Then go take a look at the overall fixtures. For fun take a look at Kalgoorlies schedule for this coming weekend. Absolutely brutal.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

the league definetely needs a good twist around, my biggest being the playoff schedules. I could care less if it means that an extra 2 weeks would be added to a schedule and more money cost to the teams but how the hell does a higher seed have to go and travel on the road first in a 3 games series when the first game is the most crucial game in a 3 game series as it sets you up to win the series.

Should be one at home, one away and last game at home of higher seed. Regardless of where the hell it is. Kal or Gero, who cares, its an extra road trip and a cost. Means screw it be the team to not be below them by the end of the season.

Instead we reward the lower team by getting to play first. Bizarre if you ask me but hey what do I know. I will say the big positive for the SBL is that they still play 48 minutes and i for one think its an absolute pathetic thing that NBL play 40 minutes. Its pathetic that so called professional athletes dont play the correct amount of time.

Basketball was created for 48 minutes, not 40 but because we feel like we need to suck up the rest of the worlds ass, we decide to make it 40 to correspond with everyone. Just out of curiosity, have they not realised that the NBA is the best league in the world, hands down. Perhaps we might want to take a look at their model and try to work off of it.

Granted we cannot afford the big name NBA players but the model of the game which makes the NBA ten times more exciting to watch than a pathetic NBL game in which the best highlights come from behind the 3 pt line or a two handed dunk by a 7 footer.

RANT OVER!

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Not Josh Garlepp  
Years ago

Josh Garlepp and Ben Purser have been putting together an unscripted podcast for some weeks now and expect it to be released in the next two weeks.The first trial was done with Corey Easley.

There is no script and no SBL affilitation, players talking about basketball in more detail and the league in general.

"Apparently garlepp is hilarious or something" Says an undisclosed source, and "the audio chemistry is palpable." said another.

I will post the link once its finished, will be similar to Grantland Podcasts.

upcoming guests,

Any player from the league that they know and is free wednesday nights.

anonymous

xoxo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Two blokes talking about the league in general, who actually play in the league? I can see their podcast lasting a while...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't compare the SBL to the NBA - you lose the argument then.

Every league plays 40mins in the world - from Olympics to college to Europe and Asia. SBL needs to play 40 mins also.

Also do like the SEABL and make it one off playoff games. The finals go for over a month! Too long.

The shorter the better.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

About time someone did a podcast with actual information. The boys sound like they will be worth a listen.

The seabl has such progressive media efforts with a weekly video show and encouragement of all clubs to promote the league as much as possible. The SBL with its restrictions is archaic, and frankly detrimental to the league, especially with their refusal to make major changes year in and year out. If you want actual progress change is a necessity.

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koberulz  
Years ago

Its pathetic that so called professional athletes dont play the correct amount of time.
Correct according to whom? The SBL and NBA are the only two leagues in the entire world that play 48 minutes.

Granted we cannot afford the big name NBA players but the model of the game which makes the NBA ten times more exciting to watch than a pathetic NBL game in which the best highlights come from behind the 3 pt line or a two handed dunk by a 7 footer.
Even if that were true (it isn't), that has nothing to do with the extra eight minutes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If the SBL changes to a 40 minute game it will be a joke. Unless they only allow 1 import. Every starter will just play 40 mins straight in the mens league.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

If this proposed podcast is anything like a certain FB page last year then I can't see it lasting long.

Being current players is also fraught with danger. But we all know all officials are always 100% impartial and NEVER hold grudges. Good luck lads.

Also, good luck getting change, there are too many dinosaurs in charge. Look at the makeup of the SBL Commission, not a lot of forward thinkers there sadly.


It's a shame, there are some great players, young/import/aussie, that would absolutely thrive in a well run, well reffed League. WA might get more players in the NBL/WSBL too as a lovely ancillary benefit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You do a lot of referee bashing. I think majority of the officiating is pretty good. They get it wrong, but the problems are mainly with the junior refs and how are we ever gonna have more senior refs without them.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

If you really think the overall standard of refereeing is good then you're watching different games to what I am. The consistency is sorely lacking and a lot of the issues are a core group of experienced officials.

The junior refs at least come in with no preconceived notion of who will do what.

Funny, I've mentioned refs twice I do believe, hit a nerve?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

To add on that comment ^ it is quite well known around the league which refs dislike which teams and players. That should NEVER be common knowledge and yet it is .

Sure we all don't have to like everyone, but some refs go around saying they 'he's a d***' or 'he acts like a c***' . And it does happen.

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Dh  
Years ago

So who is in th commission

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Feathered Fighter  
Years ago

Look at the BWA site, about us tab and board members.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Your ole's in the commission boi

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The scariest thing about this whole R@nd0m scenario is that he's anywhere near to state coaching contention. Sitting on the bench and yelling abuse at players from both teams as well as referees doesn't really count as coaching does it?

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Tiges  
Years ago

^signed, coach who got knocked out of wabl finals by rockingham. Probably one of those ones who only coaches because it's the only way his son will get selected. Then he starts the turd.

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ruddiger  
Years ago

Back on the topic of SBL, Tigers vs redbacks, whatt a game.

I hear Marshall brown has jetted back to the states to be with a sick family member. Good luck to him and hope he is okay.

Ray turner , who will unddoubtedly be player of the week, followed his monster performance vs perry lakes with another huge one. This time is was 58pts 23rbs. With all the balls going to him on the block, he was happy to work on the undersized tigers with Davis fouling out.

Free throws made down the stretch saw the Tigers win in double OT. Lots of fouls, lots of points, same terrible shooting perc from Damien Scott. Tigers need to perform better if they're to contend in the top 4, and really got out of jail in this game.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Turner is tearing the SBL to shreds, he should be playing in a much higher tier league. Why would he limit himself to the SBL?? A Rockhampton Morning Bulletin report from February stated he came to Perth to chase a deal with the Wildcats... dunno if that will happen, but he should definitely be elsewhere.

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ruddiger  
Years ago

He certainly putting up the numbers for a Wildcats spot. I'd choose him over Ernest Ross

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Well Earnest Ross isn't an import, and he's a guard, whereas Turner is a PF. The Wildcats would have to get rid of Redhage or Wagstaff to sign Turner, which I personally wouldn't want to happen nor do I think the Wildcats would do that

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koberulz  
Years ago

Lots of fouls, lots of points, same terrible shooting perc from Damien Scott.
Must say, it was delightful to see him getting those open looks in the corner down the stretch, having read the comments in this thread regarding his percentage/attempts.

Turner throwing fifteen different pivots on the block down three with eight seconds left could've cost the Redbacks that one. Prior was also right next to him when he threw up the hail-mary on the buzzer, and was probably the better option.

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Winston  
Years ago

Was at the Tigers v Redbacks. Black played the same guys for the last 5 of regular time, 5 of first OT and 5 in second OT. With Davis on the bench fouled out he wasn't very confident bringing on anyone else which I thought would be the end for them, just look at the playing mins.

having said that, Ben Smith played huge mins, Turner would have too had it not been for foul trouble.

Willetton undefeated at home, itll be interesting to see how Slammers go next week. One would think Slammers'll win easy but its a fun game to watch.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cory Cooperwood was at Stirling game on the weekend. Wonder if he will end up with someone??

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Didn't see the Tigers v Redbacks game but the stats highlight some interesting points.

- Was Turner's game the most dominant display in the SBL for the last few years? His overall production saw some crazy numbers...

- What is up with Damien Scott's shooting %? Is he missing open looks or are they shots at the end of shot clock or contested looks??? 2 of 13 from the 3pt line is not great. (he could of had 40 if he shot better)

- A win is a win and the Tigers are now 7 - 2. They would be happy with their record even if they are only playing limited guys.

- Will the Tigers add another import if Easley is becoming a non-restricted player??? (not sure if the Easley part is fact or fiction)

- Will Marshall Brown be back as there was some reported unrest in the Redback camp.

- Where is Dennis T???

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ruddiger  
Years ago

Well they only have the 1 import right? Would make sense if they got him on board. Plus I think his gf is in Perth.

Just on that, whats up with all these imports setting up camp here!?!

The old school guys all married with children: Vince Kelley, Jeff Anderson, CJ

Ephrem Davis, Cory Cooperwood, Corey Easley all got gfs or married. Carter Cook too I think.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

I hear Cooperwood is asking crazy money to play, he might price himself out of the League.

Tawhiti sat out due to Achilles concerns.

Perth were also missing Johnston and Mackavilitongia.

Brown went home due to Family issues, real Family issues, not the made up kind.

Scott got a LOT of open looks, just didn't make them. Perhaps he's not putting as much time into practicing as before? Conjecture on my part but reasonable.

I heard Jordan Wild may be back soon?

Willo were quite lucky to win that game, FT's kept them in the lead the entire first half. Prior and Wagner both missed shots to win the Game in regulation and OT 1.

Turner is a beast and played with a lot of composure, he took a beating in that game and didn't really react at all, just kept on playing.

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bo2  
Years ago

Tigers win takes them just 1 win away from the 2014 total win total.

Scott is missing open looks. It's amazing because when he actually puts the ball on the ground, his fg% is great. I don't think the Tigers are worried with him taking those open shots though, and if they start falling it'll be dangerous.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hawks badly need some help. Someone please give them Cooperwoods number.

Redbacks two imports (Ray & Turner) combining to score and rebound more than any other teams two imports.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Cooperwoods asking price is too high for PL according to my mail.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any ideas on how the SBL should format their allstar game ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any ideas on how the SBL should format their allstar game ?

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Oh and #303 and #320, really? Seems you really don't know who R@nd0m is with those comments.

He's passionate, loud and supportive when Coaching. He also doesn't have a son so bad luck with that "fact"

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

For one, the SBL All-Star Game should be on a separate weekend so all players can be considered. Jamming it onto a long weekend with Games being played isn't going to help Teams allow players to participate.

As for selections, who knows? Probably a FB poll to try drum up interest.

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Check out this dunk by Kevin Davis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkecezKr_9w

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ruddiger  
Years ago

I heard Cooperwood would only play for Stirling or Lakeside anyway, given his religious background..

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Hahaha thats funny ruddiger

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meggsie  
Years ago

allstar game ! city vs country allways works as their is always a bit of passion.( NRL )
gero,slammers,giants,magic vs the rest. I always wanted to see this happen in SEABL , but maybe the powers to be in the city are a little worried of the result

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G Fresh  
Years ago

R@nd0m being gagged by the powers that be is a blight on the league, lift your game Basketball WA and give the people what they want.

My 2c on Cecins don't know the bloke but you have to respect him, why are we knocking someone with passion for our game, there is no money in this sport so he is doing it for the love and some pocket change. Calling games, doing pods and the work for his club all take time and considerable effort.

Clearly there are a lot of problems going on with BWA but there are a hell of a lot of peeps that are putting in behind the scenes and out in the spotlight. Most if not all of it is community service...volunteers and player's alike. It's a thankless task but keep on grinding, the L and hoops in WA are in your debt!

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Paul Pierce  
Years ago

I think your forgetting about me you see me against the Raptors?

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meggsie  
Years ago

SBL ALL STAR GAME COUNTRY VS CITY.
COUNTRY

PG-- NICHOLLS/JACKSON
SG-- HARRELSON/BOWIE
SF-- LEWIS/RALPH
PF-- VOEKEL/ BEN SMITH
C -- MULLENAX/ WUNDERBERG.
COACH -- HERON

CITY

PG-- LAND/CHAN
SG-- SWING/SEB
SF-- FIELD/ELLIS
PF--TURNER/COOP LAND
C -- PRUE/ K.DAVIS
COACH -- ETTRIDGE.

there are 5 aussies/ 5 American born players.
im sure everyone has their own opinion on players.
would be an awesome game to watch. country just.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Can't see them agreeing to a game where 4 Teams get players in and the other 10 Teams only have 10-12 spots.

It'll probably be North/South, maybe in the WABL format for ease. Having said that, the WABL format somehow has Kalamunda and Perth as North, North of what I'm not sure.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Breaking news, Adam Forde has stepped down as coach of East Perth due to family reasons. No date for his return as yet. Joe Alan Tupaea will take over as head coach in the interim

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Flynn  
Years ago

I think I prefer Joe on the sidelines that the court. Won't be able to shirt grab and throw off the ball punches...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Or kick balls into score bench people's faces after the whistle has blown

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ruddiger  
Years ago

Philp instead of Cooper Land, Najee Lane instead of Seva

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meggsie  
Years ago

ruddiger- 5 imports only.philip fair enough for coop but you cant have najee over chan.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WABL is split north of the river and SOR.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The best way to do all star would be imports vs aussies, that would get the best support I would think. North verse south doesn't really give spectators something to care about in the game outside of the highlights. But imports vs Aus the crowd can get the highlights from the imports (mostly) and root for aussies vs the yanks.

The timing of it is the hardest.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Aussies vs U.S.A basically

Don't think that's really a fair contest

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

#581, you may want to re-check that. Kalamunda and Perth have been in the North for years and are both fairly South of the River.

Maybe the SBL can do something novel.

Pick the Coaches of the 2 top Teams at say Round 11 (just a guess)

Those 2 Coaches flip a coin for 1st pick and alternate "Draft Picks" until they have a Team of 12 each.

There can't be more than, say, 6 Restricted Players and no more than 2 from any one Team. There must also be at least 4 Front Court players per Team.

When playing, every player gets at least 6 minutes.

For the WSBL I'd say 10 players and 5 minutes min.

Just a rough guideline I thought of.

If you really wanna mix it up, ban the Coaches from picking their own players and/or let the public vote on their first pick.

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Just a couple of changes

SBL ALL STAR GAME COUNTRY VS CITY.
COUNTRY

PG-- NICHOLLS/JACKSON
SG-- HARRELSON/BOWIE
SF-- LEWIS/RALPH
PF-- VOEKEL/ BEN SMITH
C -- MULLENAX/ WUNDERBERG.
COACH -- HERON

CITY

PG-- ARMOUR/CHAN
SG-- SWING/HOBBS
SF-- FIELD/ELLIS
PF--TURNER/C LAND
C -- PRUE/L PHILIP
COACH -- ETTRIDGE.

I also think that the Aussie team would be very competitive against imports... If you could include Jervis

1. Kyle/Jackson
2. Ty/Trian
3. Lewis/Ellis
4. Ben Smith/Field
5. Tom Jervis/Prue (Wunderberg if no Jervis)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Really?

Aussie
Harrelson/Armour
Seb/Scott/Dech
Field/Lewis/Purser
Ellis/Huntington/Smith
Jervis/Prue

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LSP  
Years ago

safe to say Matt Cecins knows s*** all about basketball with his latest power rankings. what a joke.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do you want to explain what parts you disagree with? Maybe write your own to promote the league.

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Peter  
Years ago

I thought it was actually a good read, never going to please everyone.
Atleast the guy is making an effort to get something out there.
The more that is written the better.

Alot more in depth then and so and so "did all he could for ______"

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Anonymous  
Years ago

LSP >> Loves Sucking P _ _ _ S?! (Not that there is anything wrong with that if you are that way inclined!) Leave Cecins alone... the dude cops all sorts of flack for his views, yet is one of the few people around the traps who is liked by 90% of clubs, says hello to anyone he recognises and actually has a decent basketball brain!

I love the Keyboard Warriors on this forum. All 'experts' in your own right but won't admit your true 'feelings' to those you are so quick to 'troll' on here, in person. Next time they are handing out Bravery medals, make sure you and the rest of your 'mates' are at the BACK of the line...

This is R@nD0m - I wasn't going to go through the whole process of signing up on here as this will be my only post I put on this Forum.

Firstly, thanks for all the love re: my previews or lack there of. I will clear up something though... It wasn't so much as a gagging, more a heads up from a couple of coaches I highly respect, who said if I want to be considered for State Teams in the future, best to cease with the previews in case someone is inadverdently offended. Whilst i enjoy doing the previews, I enjoy my coaching more and would love to go further with it in the future.

To the person (I will be very dignified here and not call you what I would want to!) who suggested I 'sit on the bench yelling abuse at both teams players and the referees' - I have never openly abused an opposition player, especially with the age group I am coaching this year in Under 12 Boys. Yes I am loud (Passionate as RH puts it!) and I do question the refs from time to time (Older age groups more than the younger ones... Everyone has to appreciate that like players in U12s / 14s, refs make mistakes. If we don't get on players everytime they make a mistake, we shouldn't do the same to our developing younger refs) but I know my limits.

But yes, old mate Keyboard Warrior #1, clearly you know who I am, so rather than stick behind some phoney name on a Messageboard where its encouraged to remain a mystery whilst spreading BS, actually have the guts to tell me face to face. I won't get angry... i'd actually respect you a hell of a lot more, rather than making false accusations about me on here.

Sad to hear about Fordey - I hope everything is ok mate and we see you involved with the League sometime in the near future. Best of luck to all teams (Women's and Men's) for the rest of the season, and here is hoping Pacquiao can knock Mayweather the **** out this Sunday!!

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Peter  
Years ago

Jordan Wild back for Stirling.
Ellis must not be restricted.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Wild is replacing Ellis according to the article by Stirling.

Keep doing your thing Random, there will always be haters out there.

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CHARLIE  
Years ago

Ellis getting married so Wild a fill in while Codys away.

I thought the article by Matt was pretty good. Reviewed the year to date on a strength of schedule format, and used this for a forward view of the rest of the season. Obviously things will change as teams fall in and out of form, but as a snap shot of the league as at today, it's a very good article and very well thought through. Not bad for someone that's not an expert!!!!!

And Random what are you doing man?!? Right reviews, be sarcastic, stir the pot and make people ask and answer questions. No one will stand in your way for this. Hell if I can get a coaching gig your reviews sure as hell shouldn't be seen as a deterent.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Keep the previews going! I don't understand how anyone could take offense to anything you write.

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Sai  
Years ago

Yes,Random .Keep the previews going!We're waiting.

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Watcher  
Years ago

Find it amusing that it was suggested that Random stop writing if he wants to coach state teams BWA allow parents to coach their own childs age group so that they can make sure their child gets in even if they dont deserve to,so cant see a problem with a few comments in relation to SBL. This should not loose you a coaching job?

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lel  
Years ago

I don't think you understand how coaching and team managing works. If two kids of equal skills level are trying out for a team, and one of kids' parents offers to coach, who do you think is going to get chosen??

Even if one kid has slightly less talent than the other, but their parents can contribute VOLUNTARY time of course you take the kid with less talent. Finding volunteers for sport isn't easy, parents are more comfortable sitting on the sidelines and criticising.

So you might see it as unfair, but thats just life. Either get involved or get lost :)

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Watcher  
Years ago

Bit confused by your comments lel we are talking about state teams and not domestic. And have been involved for years as a volunteer and do not just sit on the sidelines ever. Just do not think it is fair to other kids or the child of the parent coaching. If we want the best state teams it needs to be the best players from our state playing regardless of who volunteers. Do your mummy and daddy volunteer so that you can get a game? Sounds like it

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Macca  
Years ago

Random, do what you feel is right for your future mate... you have our support. We will miss your colourful and witty previews and sadly I think it will be the final nail in the coffin for the old SBL Forum.

Just on the All Star Game... if there were to be a 3 point shoot out who would you like to see compete?

8 players max.


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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Bloody SBL, no Week 7 POW. Week 4 and 7 now, no POW...

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lel  
Years ago

Nope never made a state team Watcher, maybe I would've if my parents did coach or manage. It's just how it is.

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ruddiger  
Years ago

Average margin in 2015 (excluding games played this weekend):

Slammers 15.27272727 (astounding)
Buccs 17.7 (astounding)
Wolves 14 (v good)
Tigers 7.555555556 (big win margins early offset by huge loss margins in their 2 L's)
Magic 4 (grindin out wins)
Senators -3 (finding form now, close wins)
Cougars 0.8 (50/50)
Flames 0.4(50/50)
Redbacks -3.6 (1 man team means close losses)
Lightning -3.111111111 (same same ^^)
Hawks -13.66666667 (dud import, replaced by another)
Giants -13.88888889 (3 man team, tough season)
Suns -16 (2.5 man team with Chan having a good season)
Eagles -10.8 (no team)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Willeton only beat PLH by 6 last night, but Black put his team to sleep at half time. Outscored 46 to 31. Smart move due to their schedule. Clarke made a dive at the ball in the last minute or so and nearly ended Hobbs stay in Oz. How he never popped an ACL I'll never know. Nothing deliberate by Clarke but maybe basketball should adopt similar rules to the AFL with the below the knees stuff. Or at least run an education program. Nobody wants to see careers interrupted by this sort of injury. The ref chose to ignore the contact but Hobbs had a bit to say to Clarke.

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Winston  
Years ago

Yeah following the box score it seems as though Willetton was up 25 early, and coasted home. Smart as they have Slammers tonight , and it looked like Cody and Scott were both rested.

Good for the other guys to get a run too, especially as Black refused to make a sub throughout the end of the fourth quarter, 1st OT and 2nd OT verse Redbacks.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Watched Perth v Kalamunda last night.

Very interesting finish. Turner fouled heavily by Holmes with 10 seconds left and Kala up 1. No call, turnover. Was a shame as I thought it was a fairly well called game until that gaffe.

Perth really need work on their interior D and stopping dribble penetration.

Thought Tawhiti played a great game though, really battled whilst being undersized.

Tough road for Perth now.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They haven't gotten off to the best start despite a pretty incredible team on paper, but they aren't in trouble yet. They only have to make the 8 realistically.

Need the second import back though. Is he coming back?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I heard that Stan Okoye may be on his way over...that's just what I heard.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I heard that too, with his current team in Italy only 2 games away from finishing and out of finals contention. Turner and Okoye, thats a boss move right there...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pitty the rest of the guys wont get a touch

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The team might have more chemistry bringing back Okoye...??


Well done to the guy doing the video highlights every week.

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lel  
Years ago

Yeah Josh Zimmerman, I don't even see him in the crowd or on the sidelines but he keeps pumpin out vids. Good stuff, completely voluntary. SBL should snatch him up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone know when Louis Timms will be back?

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A couple of Kevin Davis Dunks from the Magic game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDGBU8behIQ

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EP Elite  
Years ago

Im just curious why the 18 year old for Eagles thinks he has the right to take more shots than the imports or the established veterans despite having one of the worst shooting percentages?

Its already cost us a couple games in my opinion.

We got him from cougars for nothing, I think they got the better end of the trade

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Imports? EP have imports?

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EP Delete  
Years ago

Did he take what you thought might have been your spot?

After 10 or 11 games the coaches would not let him blaze away unless they wanted him to shoot.

Most 18yo have a bit to learn. It is a lot harder when you're in a losing team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I hear a Wanneroo faithful is off to Willetton...

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Hogwash 51  
Years ago

I wouldn't call MC a "faithful"...3rd club supported in 4 years!!

:)

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Hogwash 51  
Years ago

I wouldn't call MC a "faithful"...3rd club supported in 4 years!!

:)

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Red74  
Years ago

Who is off to willo?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I've seen Vague play a few times this year, and while obviously still young he does tend to shoot a heck of a lot out of the offence. In saying that, seeing how the Wildcats run their offence and the number of 3's they jack up it's not unlikely that Forde gives him the same luxury in SBL. Not overly productive looking at their record though.

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Winston  
Years ago

haha according to his post he's been at Wannerro for 4 years now. Thats some Interstellar time-warp stuff right there...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Some interesting games this week..

Slammers will beat buccs I think.

Wolves should get Rockingham

Magic will get Tigers

Redbacks and Lightning could depend on Redbacks imports avail?

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johnson fred  
Years ago

Can confirm MC has been seen at Tigers home games

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lel  
Years ago

"Point guard Luke Wrensted had an accident on a moped while on holidays in Bali on Anzac Day, ruling him out of action for at least six weeks."

lel..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who is MC?!

*Random needs to grow some balls and do his previews
*EP is in all sorts of trouble. Not one of their starting 5 is a local product if Jervis doesn't play and apart from young Donlagic - there is not much coming through, so expect the EP of old as League Easybeats in a year or two
*It might just be me but will the All Star Game even be a success? Gero playing the Flames up in Geraldton = horrible scheduling. Why not do it when Gero and Kal are in Perth?
*I was forwarded an email yesterday which was sent to all Waves players advising in a very direct manner on Andy's behalf 'If you don't hear from us, we don't want you at tryouts...' or to that effect at least. With one good local product in Garbin heading to Townsville next year, will the Lynx be similar to the Wildcats and only give locals 'development' contracts until they prove their worth? Great way to get your local basketball community to buy in to the new model **Sarcasm**

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The young kid from EP will end up a better player than anyone else currently in the SBL.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's a huge call. He's certainly young and inexperienced. But that call would be based on him playing the 3 if he can shoot at a higher clip, create off the bounce and cut without the ball. Or he stays at the 4 and learns any post moves..?

He's a good young talent for sure but thats a stretch isn't it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bendat Basketball Centre. Well.

It would be more appropriate if they renamed the Entertainment Centre the BEC. That's where he makes his money and they have their sole interest. They merely have an office and train at Floreat. It is great that he has revitalized basketball at a national level in WA. I cannot recall the Wildcat organization doing much for junior basketball or junior basketballers over the years. We shouldn't confuse junior development with training fodder. You don't need to be great to be able to train with the Wildcats eg Justin Eckhardt.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

To Anonymous Reply #527428:

In regards to the scheduling of the Allstar game, no weekend was ever going to be a good weekend.

For starters, it was always going to be on the Monday of a long weekend. Obviously you could not hold it on a Saturday (SBL games being played) nor a Sunday (Buccs and Giants playing games in Perth).

So via a process of elimination, it could only be Monday.

Also Allstar games should always be held in the second half of the season.

So how many long weekends are there in the second half of the season? One!!!

The Giants are already playing in Perth that weekend so that works out ok.

Yes, the Buccs play the Flames in Gero on the Saturday night, but the Allstar game isn't until the Monday afternoon.

I don't see a problem. And I definitely don't see any 'horrible scheduling'.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't be fooled, the Bendat Basketball Centre is a venue naming right sponsorship deal. The report on Ch10 mentioned that it was for 20 years or there abouts.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

For those out there who like nothing more than another reason to stick the boot into BWA/SBL.....

"VenuesWest yesterday announced that they have secured naming rights for the WA Basketball Centre. This announcement was made yesterday morning by the Minister for Sport & Recreation, the Hon. Mia Davies. As part of this partnership, the WA Basketball Centre will be known as the Bendat Basketball Centre for the next 21 years.

VenuesWest have exclusive rights to the naming of the WA Basketball Centre and have negotiated the terms of this arrangement. Unfortunately, Basketball WA was not made aware of this announcement until just before it occurred and, as a result, was unable to communicate this to our Members or Stakeholders earlier.

After discussions with VenuesWest, Basketball WA would like to reassure the basketball community that this is a sponsorship arrangement. There has been some misrepresentation in the media that the WA Basketball Centre has been named simply in honour of Jack Bendat, this is not the case. The naming rights have been secured by a financial contribution that will benefit Basketball WA through the Co-Management Agreement with VenuesWest."

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thanks for posting that, Lukosius. When I first read of the name change (albeit via the Wildcats media machine) I questioned why it was happening. Prior to last month, Bendat's involvement had purely been with the Wildcats and not the wider basketball community. It wasn't until I heard the reference at the end of the Ch10 news segment that it clicked to me that it was a naming rights arrangement. Shame the Wildcats neglected to disclose that minor detail.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Looks like voting for the all star game is open to the public.

More details here: http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-5011-0-0-0&sID=78732&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=34533340

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

VenuesWest announcement which states 21-year arrangement: http://www.venueswest.wa.gov.au/news/a-name-change-for-the-wa-basketball-centre/

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What does that mean for BWA staff?? Think there'll be a shuffle?

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Paul Pierce  
Years ago

All star snubs???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

how do you not see an issue with the Buccs playing flames in gero? Its on a Monday which means they will play on a Monday and then have to be back in Gero for work. How is that not retarded??? Why not just have an allstar weekend where all players and coaches and fans can get together and have a good chilled out night and meet down at the stadium and make it something great instead of half assing something.

A monday night where people will have work the next day and for country teams will have to drive all that way back that night or miss out on work the next day in which I am sure the league wont be reimbursing for a day off work.

Pathetic attempt. Extend the season one week and make it a weekend of fun and relaxation with other people from the league, make it a spectacle instead of a testicle.

How many people do they expect to get on a Monday night? after already spending an entire weekend of watching basketball???

AHHHHHH what can you do people, sometimes u just have to give up and say well why did GOD ever get rid of the dinosaurs. ;)

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Winston  
Years ago

I'm quite positive Carter Cook or Bennie Lewis don't have work the next day. And even so, work would be pretty understanding. Those guys are worshiped up there...

From Kal, I doubt Muo will get a place so Jay Bowie and Jacob Holmen don't have work.

And from SouthWest the only all-stars will probably be Nichols and Voelkel..

Just stop being such a SBL knocker and deal with it. I don't think you actually realize how much time and effort goes into fixturing the SBL and liaising with ALL 14 associations to try and find what best works. BWA haven't just released these fixtures and told everyone to get along with it, they get requests from all associations before the season and go from there.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

If you want the ASW to thrive then I think it needs a stand alone weekend.

Make it special for everyone involved and make it the ONLY game for the Weekend.

I can see a situation where players are "injured" so that they aren't risked for their upcoming games.

Onto the voting side of it, how do they justify 2 Teams having 4 nominees?
Thats just silly. Either make every player eligible or have a 3 person rule and stick to it.

I'd think E.Davis and C.Easley at Willo would be a little disappointed their Coach didn't nominate them.

I'm also befuddled as to why every Team must have an All-Star. It reeks of "everyone needs to feel good" The best teams should have more players in the Game, look at the NBA model.

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gary  
Years ago

I also believe an extra week would allow the non all stars a week off. For the men they don't get byes like the girls, so for the teams that make the GF that's 23 straight weekends of having to organise their life around basketball.

OR Even if it means they have to play one extra double header, im sure most men would agree with this.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

pretty sure gero also have Mat Wundenberg in there and Ty works for the slammers, not just a player. regardless of all that, its still a rotten way to do it. Give it an extra week and then have everyone be able to go and support and enjoy in the festivities.

I am not an SBL knocker but when they make it so easy then how do we not. For years I have said that the finals segment is terrible. Why have a three game series for the entire playoffs and then one game to win it all. RETARDED!!!! so that means if someone goes down with an injury etc they don't get that chance to recover for that extra week and come back and win game 2/3. When has the league ever approached the players and asked what they might consider??? NBA and other leagues have playing committees in which they can voice opinions and they can be heard. The SBL if a player voices an opinion they get warned, suspended, christ even analysts cant even write previews cause they get told to HUSH.....



In the words of Charles Barkley "Thats TURRWWIIBBLLLEE"

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Lukosius  
Years ago

"Its on a Monday which means they will play on a Monday and then have to be back in Gero for work. How is that not retarded???"

I don't know what planet you have been living on but both my club (Giants) and also the Buccs do that every 3rd week.

Playing on a Monday afternoon (2.00pm remember, not Monday night) and then back home that night is no different to when we play on a Sunday afternoon (and then back home that night).

If any club should be whinging about it, it is my club. On that weekend we play at Lakeside on the Saturday night, at Wanneroo (12noon) on the Sunday, then the Allstar game is at 2.00pm on the Monday.

For any of our players in the allstar game (there will be at least one), that's a tough weekend.

But are we complaining about it? Nah. We will embrace, grow some balls, and get it done.

Really not much different to the triple-headers we used to have (three times a season).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone know who is in the 3 point shootout for the All Star Game?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Y'all should just forfeit the game v Joondalup ... Rest of the team head back to Kal.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Went to the Rebacks Lightning game to watch the Turner vs Swing matchup who was gonna score 50 first. Looked to be a bit of a dud game at first Lightning had 3 starters out injured (Dixon Parkinson Thomas) but ended up being close with lightning taking a 10 point win. Redbacks benched Turner way too much for long stretches, not sure what the problem was.

Hard for redbacks now surely..???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Turner was in foul trouble,

Was a lackluster game and it will be hard for the Redbacks coming up against the Slammers this weekend

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Turner had foul issues throughout the Game as well as carrying a thumb injury that hampered him.

Agreed, it's a very tough road for the Backs now.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He only finished with 4 fouls.. I thought considering they had no chance to win without him on the floor they should have risked it a bit more.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He also had an injury concern. Slammers Buccs was a classic last night, high scoring but over whistled I think

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

2 fouls in the 1st, 3 at the Half, 4th picked up in the 3rd. He was in and out all game. Plus his thumb was an issue.

Lakeside were really aggressive with fronting the post and Perth did a poor job of entry passing or moving the ball to exploit that.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Tom Jervis done already?

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

^Probably, I wouldn't waste my time with EP either

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Louis Timms is set to make his SBL return this coming weekend when the Joondalup Wolves take on the East Perth Eagles http://www.wildcats.com.au/article/id/wfcbulsgyyyx1mr3vvpebgrkc

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Makes you wonder what Budget Joondalup are working with this year?

Can't see any of the following not getting paid.
Trian
Seb
Huntington
Robbins
Timms
Davis
Matacz
Questel.

Then you have the Joondalup Waves.

Same could be said for South West and their 4 Aussie/Yanks.

Is there any point even pretending to have a Salary cap?

Also, did anyone else think it odd some Teams have 4 players up for AS nomination and others only 3?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

From what I saw when I voted, the fourth nomination was generally a league nomination. In the cases of Ty and Doccy, as the coaches nominating players, they clearly didn't want to nominate themselves but the league recognised they should be involved in the game and nominated them.

Asides from those two, where there any other teams with more than three nominees?

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

PL Women had 4 today.

It should be 3 per team or every player is eligible.

This is where the SBL gets itself into trouble all the time. They allow too much grey area, then the Clubs exploit that grey area to the nTH degree over and over.

Yeah it's a small thing, but it's symptomatic of a larger issue in my opinion.

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Dh  
Years ago

Is the salary cap even applied Who looks into this I guess they can receive a wage for development or such So there for not paid for SBL

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Theres a Cap and every Club President ( I think) has to sign a Form stating they haven't gone over it.

Pretty sure there are shenanigans going on there though.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Looks like Bennie Lewis has joined the Plymouth Raiders alongside Daryl Corletto

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And everyone was bagging Willetton out about going over their salary cap at the start of the year... Tut tut tut.

Wannerroo, Slammers, Mandurah, Perth. Mention these teams before Yall even THINK of saying Willetton.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What is the SBL salary cap?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

$60,000

I think a lot of these teams such as Wanneroo would be ok. The aussie players wouldn't be getting much if any, like 100-200 per game isn't going to scratch the cap. It's when you have two imports plus a host of aussies getting paid as the imports command 15-20k each.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ty would be the only Men's player paid by Slammers, Weeden works full time and Nichols and Voelkel are given part time jobs while they are here.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What are their part time jobs?

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Willo are in the same boat as all the other Teams named, big names who want to be paid.

Scott, Armour, Davis, Easley, ALL getting paid and not chump change.

Perth, 3 guys at most on money.

I wonder where these part time jobs and development gigs come from? The Clubs perhaps? Or do these players just get reeeaaalllyyyyy lucky with employment?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Obviously the club would sort out the work through sponsors etc but the fact is they are working normal jobs for their income while they are in Australia.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would be surprised if Slammers two imports weren't getting paid by the club PLUS their outside jobs as well.

For Willo, it wouldn't be hard to pay those 4 under the cap. The 3 aussies prob aren't getting import type money??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why would Perth be paying anyone outside of the two imports???

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

That depends on what Visa each player is on.

Technically if they are on a WH Visa they cannot have employment sorted out by the Club in any way.

If they are on a Sporting Visa, they can only be paid to play games.

Is the WH Visa a crazy grey area that is being exploited? Are the "jobs" real ones that are actually worked and not fronts for the cash in the envelope payment so many people have gotten?

Either way, if people think that all those players are coming to Aus or shifting Clubs every year just for the love of the game......well thats a naive way to see it.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

The numbers I heard being offered by Willo for players this year was not small change. 2-500 a week per player. Then add in Easley and Davis (who has to be on a Sports Visa), it's getting up there.

SW's guys will be getting paid, over or under the table, they are getting money

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agree Roy Hobbs. I think its fairly clear who from each club is getting paid, and you cant tell me only 2 out of the 4 Americans at SW are getting paid, likewise with Willo. I think a lot of under the table payments are facilitated. Look at Mandurah last year, only difference is that it got uncovered!

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Mandurah even gave out Signing bonuses last year haha.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyway moving on from the money which clearly won't get anywhere.

Anyone wanna have a crack at answering the 5 questions from the radio show?

1. If you were the lakeside coach would Jarrad Prue be starting?

2. Is getting within six points of the wolves a moral victory for the hawks?

3. Should the mens SBL move to 40 minute games?

4. Are the giants a legit top 8 threat?

5. Is Gav Field the Best WA player in the SBL?

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

1. No, as he has wavered in his desire to play and they will need Parkinson for the next 3-8 years.

2. Hmmm yes and no, Yes in that they were severely out-gunned. No as in they were close enough (in theory) to win it. Whether that was due to Joondalup resting people I'm not sure.

3. Please NO. There are enough places where we can see scores of 61-54. Plus if they truly want the SBL to be a developmental League, the younger players need court time from somewhere.

4. No, they just aren't deep enough for my money. They may well prove me wrong.

5. I reckon this is a YES. he is putting up phenomenal numbers and has Cockburn playing much better than anticipated pre-season. How he isn't being called up weekly by the Wildcats to sign is beyond me.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

1. No
2. Yes
3. No No No
4. No
5. Yes

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

No - save him, he just might play on next year.
No - have come late a couple of games now, but not able to play with the big boys when it matters.
Yes - I wouldn't like it, but getting 10 yo home at 11pm Friday night is a bit late.
No - unless they beat a highly ranked side soon.
Yes/No/Maybe - he's very good but a bit light for NBL. Would be interesting to see him get the oppositions best defender (or NBL Quality) every week.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I HATE the idea of a 40 minute game.

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Io 33  
Years ago

Corey Easley has a wife and family here, he has a full time job and isn't getting paid import figures. W

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360wtwb  
Years ago

Easley will be considered naturalised next season, so thats even less Willo will have to fork out. Scott and Armor both made the decision to join will for chump change plus a shot at a championship.

Armor knew EP were going downhill and Scott knew everyone was jumping ship at Cockburn (probs shouldve stuck around, wouldve been top 3 if he, Seva and Vague stayed).

Davis probably getting paid the most, but even he has a gf here and was happy to take a hit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nic Cody also getting paid at Willo... maybe Clarke also as last year's captain.
Do coaches salaraies get included into the cap? I couldnt see guys like Alan Black coaching for nothing.

Someone mentioned Mandurah earlier... is it just me or have we not recognised just how well they have come through the biggest SBL scandal this decade?

They have a rookie head coach, managed to sign a young PG with massive upside and a long career ahead, retained Mullenax, Hafford, Smith, Della's, Florence and are playing some great basketball beating the 4th placed Tigers on the weekend.

They are obviously doing something right down there to get out of debt so quickly and be super competitive in both the mens and the womens SBL programs.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Scott and Armour were the ones doing the jumping, for more dollars.

I'm told Vague left due to who the Cats suggested he play for, may be incorrect though.

Cody would be on $$ too. If you think Easley did all that work in the off-season for peanuts you are being naive.

Mandurahs situation is an odd one. How close were they to being gone completely? Only the SBL will know that. Apparently they had a Sponsor bail them out.
Hopefully they are on top of all that now.

They did a great job enticing JJ away from Perth, the lure of running a Team was too strong for him. Ben Smith coming back really helped too. Good for them.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Easley was shopping himself at import wage. Not worth that or even close to it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I dont think Clarke is getting paid. Apparently he looked at options elsewhere before deciding to stay at Willeton late in preseason

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Trees  
Years ago

My god, this thread has gotten to the point where it's just people starting random lies they have no factual evidence on.

Clarke and Cody are DEFINATELY not getting paid.. Yes to everyone else but how can anyone even suggest Clarke is getting paid.

And I'm not completely sure Mandurah is out of debt and have always been sceptical about how they've signed the players they have, but huge credit to their effort this season and even bigger credit if any of their players took salary hits. They're a good team.

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Paul Pierce  
Years ago

Game!!!!!

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

I wonder why Jervis has played only 1 game? Seems odd.

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Paul Pierce  
Years ago

Cause he had a falling out with EP about money. Not that odd.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

my understanding was Jervis had some injury niggles he had to take care of... obviously NBL career comes first

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Anonymous  
Years ago

my understanding was Jervis had some injury niggles he had to take care of... obviously NBL career comes first

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Peter  
Years ago

Jervis was only ever going to play enough games for EP to qualify himself for finals, he was also getting/got married this month.
So with EP no chance now for finals and basis he just got married, why would he play and why risk injury?



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ruddiger  
Years ago

Jervis Shmervis..

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MC  
Years ago

Tom Jervis is a great friend sad to see him leave. good friends at Willo too

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Anonymous  
Years ago

uh oh he found us^

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why would Jervis bother. Better to let Barnett and Vague get the experience so maybe next year they can get two good imports and Jervis and the usual 22 wildcats players and maybe make another run at the ship.

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Hogwash 51  
Years ago

Haha ... uh oh he found us^

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

I call imposter

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rinse  
Years ago

Picks for this WEEK!:

Magic @ Lakeside:
Should be a very good game with Mandurah 4-1 away and Lakeside 4-1 at home. If Swing gets some help then Lakeside, but you have to go with Mandurah by 5pts.

Redbacks at Cougars:
Again a good game with the big three of Cockburn vs the big 2 of Redbacks. Home court advangtage on this, 3 game skid will become 4 and will be the end of the Redbacks season as they take on Slammers later in the weekend. Cockburn by 3pts.

Senators @ Tigers:
Both teams on a 2 game losing streak, but I'll back the Tigers at home by 15pts. Senators really struggling with depth at the moment, Wild changing dynamic a bit.

Giants @ Magic:
Back-to-back playing a factor here with the Giants coming up good. 3 game win streak and they've got some good firepower, maybe not too late for the Giants. It'll go down to the wire but Giants by 4pts.

Buccs @ Stirling:
B2B for senators, this games gonna get ugly. Buccs by 25pts.

Slammers @ Redbacks:
Another B2B and the league leaders should quite easily get this one. Slammers are reaaaaally a well oiled machine, if anyone see them they'll agree. Ball movement is Spurs-esque, Voelkel dribbles in and draws D, kicks it out to Harrelson for 3 or Nichols cutting base, or dish it off to Weeden. Slammers by 16pts.

Tigers at Flames:
Second game in 2 days for the Tigers as well, may play a factor. I think if the Tigers get up enough on Stirling and rest their starters, then they'll get the double. Tigers by 6pts.

Buccs @ East Perth:
% boosting weekend for the buccs, winners by 25+

Giants @ Perry Lakes:
Giants may pull off the double this weekend, Perry Lakes on a 6 game losing streak. Can't be a fun place to be. Giants by 10




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Anonymous  
Years ago

What about Hawks v Suns

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

That game just doesn't matter.

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rinse  
Years ago

Very sorry, all games matter :)

Suns v Perry Lakes @ BENDAT (he told BWA to BEND-at over) Basketball Centre

If Perry Lakes is going to turn their season around, it has to happen now. Great opportunity for Chan to prove himself as most improved vs Hobbs, I just think Anthony and Philp from Kalamunda will prove too athletic. It will go down as a close one again I think (not many middle of the road wins here, either v close or not close at all this week!)

Sun by 4pts

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Sai  
Years ago

That 's why we need Random.
He is fair to everybody.

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rinse  
Years ago

Magic @ Lakeside: 5 v 8 (close)

Suns @ Hawks: 13 v 12 (close)

Slammers @ Redbacks: 1 v 10 (blow-out)

Tigers at Flames: 4 v 7 (close)

Buccs @ East Perth: 3 v 14 (put all the women and children to bed)

Giants @ Perry Lakes: 11 v 12 (close)


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good rivews rinse.
Write every week.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sorry preview.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

It wasn't that bad that you'd call it a "sorry preview"

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rinse  
Years ago

#366 thanks for your feedback, Im a big fan of your previews ...

I don't claim to be r@nd0m but if my review can spark some discussion on here than purpose served. It is a discussion forum after all, not a 'I'll occasionally bash anyone with an opinion forum'

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Seva Chan the most improved?

Corey Martin is having a pretty good year.
Increased his ave from 2ppg to 12ppg. Great defender and gets the toughest matchup each week. Also ave 4 rebounds and 4 assists.

Seva is having a good year but team is struggling with only 2 wins... its the ago old argument. Does the success of your team count?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't think team success is a factor for most improved, it should go on individual numbers alone. But who knows what the SBL mindset is with awards

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ben Ironmonger for most improved

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MC  
Years ago

Sbl game day tigers and senators tonight should be good good

Sbl blockbuster

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Seva Chan the most improved?

Corey Martin is having a pretty good year.
Increased his ave from 2ppg to 12ppg. Great defender and gets the toughest matchup each week. Also ave 4 rebounds and 4 assists.

Seva is having a good year but team is struggling with only 2 wins... its the ago old argument. Does the success of your team count?

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Jpz  
Years ago

Some big games on Friday night, with some big numbers.

3 triple doubles saw Mandurah get the W over Lakeside.

Cockburn show that 3 is better than 1, with their big three proving too much for a 50points performance from Ray turner

Bryton Hobbs led the Hawks to a much needed win over the Suns, 40 something performance.

Tigers grinded out a win, this game I managed to get down to. stirling looked the goods for 80% of the game, and then the Tigers turned on some defense and knocked down some threes. Nic Cody is improving at a rapid rate, and it helps when Davis is under performing. Tigers should have won by more, average effort but W is a W.

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Paul Pierce  
Years ago

Who knocked down some 3s was it me Paul cause I thought I tied that shit up truth

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Hawks win marred by Hobbs knee injury with 54 seconds left in the 4th

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Red74  
Years ago

Ankle injury bru

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Dh  
Years ago

Good win Hawks But Kal won last night What's with Magic coach ?? Ran his starting five till dead Hardlly used the bench . Can't win with 5 players.Left 3good players with little court time.

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Squad 101  
Years ago

No chatter about the 10th team knocking off the number 1...?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big upset isn't it. Wouldn't have thought the redbacks would have stood a chance after losing to Cockburn the night before and a seriously depleted lakeside the week before. Goes to show how even the league is. Senators nearly got the Buccs aswell, leading for majority of the game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just on Cockburn... a lot of people wrote these guys off as soon as Scott, Seva, Vague and Holmes left.

Parsons has these guys playing together and bought into the system. Maybe not a top of mind contender but a team that not many teams would like to face come playoff time.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They havea good mix of legit superstar (fields) two very solid imports and consistent veterans and youth.

If they still had Scott and Chan, would probably be top 4.

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gary  
Years ago

I think the only thing stopping Cockburn being a top 4 team is a another big.

The only reason Redbacks kept that game close on the weekend was Milam got into early foul trouble which left guys like Stanley to guard Turner.

Their guard department looks solid. Everyone knows their roles and they all know where the ball is going. I actually think having Scott and Chan would not necessarily make them better, in fact worse as they a ball dominant guards.

Look at redbacks. Crazy good starting 5, but doesnt mean they play well together.

Dont understand how they could beat the Slammers, after watching them on Friday, but good for the league. Hopefully they get it together cause Turner is unstoppable. Depth i think is their issue without a fit Prior.

Field must be a favourite for MVP, solid year. Get the guy an NBL contract please.

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rinse  
Years ago

All stars!:

My thoughts, and if I would choose them in my proverbial all star team.

North-
Bennie Lewis SG 28.8ppg YES (him and Swing will be a fun matchup)
Ray Turner C - 32.9ppg 17.6rpg YES (MVP)
Kevin Davis PF 17.5ppg 9.4 rpg averaging less than 30 mins/game YES (incredibly efficient)
Bryton Hobbs PG 28.9ppg YES (James Harden-Esque at drawing the foul, albeit annoying)
Kyle Lindbergh SF 18.5 ppg, NO - would prefer Ellis, if he was available
Seva Chan YES and NO. Lien is a great player but seeing Seva here is good for local talent promotion. He is having a good year no doubt.
Sunday Dech - YES, although now Keanu Pinder is here for a couple of weeks, he may of been my option

South-
Tre Nichols PG YES 30.0ppg - v good
Jacob Holmen PF YES 23.8ppg 11rpg sad that the 2 Kal imports are studs, and the rest of the team are duds. Muo came a little too late but you can't win the SBL with <4 players (ie Redbacks, Cockburn, lakeside)
Cooper Land C YES- last years MVP? And a monster game on the weekend to prove it
Gavin Field SF 28.3ppg YES never was a fan of this guy until this season/ just a personal view. He's averaging around 42 mins per game and has worked with the two imports to get Cockburn into post season conversation.
Jordan Swing SG 32.8ppg YES (maybe the best SG in the league, by player accounts DEFINATELY)
Ben Smith - haven't see enough of Magic basketball to make an assessment.
Kyle Armour - NO, would've preferred Nic Cody here. Cody playing good basketball and improving on all stats across the board, Armour seems to be messing up Tigers harmony demanding the ball too much

Alas, the people have spoken and I think the SBL deserves credit in the way they have given the people the right to vote for who they want to see.

As for my prediction:
North by some way. Turner and Lewis is a worrying combo, and to be honest if Kevin a Davis played minutes like what swing, turner, or field do, then he would be averaging something close to 25/15+ 4 blocks

Of course all star games are for fun and some mucking around takes place. Still, North by 12.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^^ why were you not an fan of Gav Field until this year?
Easy one of the best players to watch in the league imo.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seva playing ok on the worst/second worst team in the league. due to the have to have one from each team crap is the only reason hes in there.

Nic Cody over Kyle Armour??? wow, i truly don't see why people are all up in that ass. Average basketball player with a little bit of height and athleticism. Kyle is a good PG and can do most things on a basketball court.

There would be a few teams that deserve two or three players in there before others should even get their name mentioned but because the league is all about inclusion (like a school) then yep we have some good basketball players mixed in with actual all stars.

Just my opinion, that if its going to be an allstar event, then make it an allstar event. ALL means all doesnt it, not partial star???


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Peter  
Years ago

Is that true that every team has to be represented in the allstar game?

That cant be right.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah every team has someone in. Then the coach of each team fills out the roster with their own choices.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yep every team has to have someone from it. lets all hold hands and skip in circles and then sit around a camp fire and sing koombaya my lord!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

just looking at Nic Cody stats. He has had one good game against a team high on the ladder and that was against the slammers. The rest of his decent games have come against sub par teams.

Wolves
5 points

Cougars
11 points

Lakeside
9 points

Buccaneers
13 points

Magic
8 points

Flames
10 points

scored 20+ points 4 times and 3 of those were against redbacks, senators, eagles.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How old is Cody? I'm not his biggest fan but in his defense he's not much of a scoring type player. 10-15 points but will give you rebounds blocks steals maybe a few assists. The points will come as he transitions to a 3 man with the wildcats training..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kyle Armour is nothing short of an average, dirty player who sooks alot if he doesn't get his constant flopping called his way. He is a typical Willo junior whose constant efforts to 'buddy, buddy' with the refs each and every week in the hope it will get him a call or three, yet loves to throw a cheap shot when he can get away with it. I wood take Nik Cody over Armour any day of the week, at least Cody has a bit of heart and plays with passion... Kyle's passion is more focused on making sure his hair is styled correctly & his inked muscles are shining just enough to get his next 'victims' heart racing!

Whoever thought it was a good idea to have one player per team clearly didn't want to make it an 'All-Star' game - now its more like a cheap, money making event for BWA rather than the highlight spectacle it should be with REAL all-stars from around the League.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think we should get Random to do a preview of the All Star game... everyones got a player in there so nobody will be upset that he is being unfair or bias

Regardless of the 'everyones a winner' approach the league has taken it will be a great game to watch and most of the best talent has been selected. Hopefully the obvious ones that werent included in the first pass will be picked up by the coaches as they should.



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Anonymous  
Years ago

check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Turner_(basketball)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hankins Cole gone! Sounds like he must've slipped up some how off the court!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

From the Buccs facebook page:

MEDIA RELEASE
It is disappointing to announce that the S & K Electrical Geraldton Buccaneers have released Quincy Hankins-Cole from his contract. The Geraldton Buccaneers pride themselves as being the most professional club in the State Basketball League and a lack of professionalism is the main reason Quincy will no longer be part of our organisation. This decision has not been taken lightly; the board, coaching staff, leadership group, playing group and external mentors have all been consulted during the decision making process.
Q has been a big part of our first 14 games. He has entertained and excited the crowd on numerous occasions. His 19.3 PPG and 10.9RPG has help contribute to our 12-2 record. Unfortunately, we believe that Q, as one of our professional players, is not the right person to put us in the best possible position to win the 2015 Championship. On behalf of the Geraldton Basketball community, I would like to wish Q all the best in his future basketball aspirations. I know we didn't see the best of Quincy Hankins-Cole and I know he has a lot to offer in his next professional job. I truly hope he has learnt some valuable lessons from his experience with the Buccs.
Mark Heron
Head Coach
Geraldton Buccaneers Basketball Club

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sounds to me like he has gotten into a bit of trouble of the court, perhaps legal? Good to see the Buccs take a stand against off court behaviour and have a zero tolerance policy.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cooperwood is the replacement?

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Winston  
Years ago

Spotted at wildcats training. Jordan swing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cats would be crazy not to look at him.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Really... we've gone from James Ennis to Jordan Swing - and theyd be crazy not to look at him?! BTW i'm an avid Tigers supporter and are there some guidelines when it comes to Announcers? If so the Rockingham guy has to be handed them. His childish sound effects and mocking of opposition players, particularly at key moments of the game when our coaches were talking to the refs, is not warranted or fair. Maybe they should be fined to get the point across

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Squad 101  
Years ago

LOL. The Rockingham announcer is your fabled Random.

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Squad 101  
Years ago

LOL. The Rockingham announcer is your fabled Random.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Now that we've banned him from writing previews let's ban him from announcing!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Look at him, not sign. He doesn't fit the roster with Martin and Beal starting. But he would probably fill the 3 spot a tonne better than Daniels did. He was turrrrible in the 3 spot.

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Watcher  
Years ago

Maybe Anonymous should have a go at playing announcing and running a club. He or she seems to know everything and has plenty of opinions on everyone. Not many positive comments. Personally I think the Rocko announcer is entertaining and tries to get the crowd going. A lot better than most clubs announcers. Obviously not much fun for the opposition team but that is what the announcer is supposed to do Support his Club without crossing the line.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A bit more cheekiness from announcers would make home games way more interesting. As long as it wasn't insulting. It adds to home court advantage

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Very suprised J Prue wasn't taken by the coaches. Especially since Nic Cody was..??

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Ruddiger  
Years ago

Maybe because Jarrad Prue is sh*t now

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Random is a pretty decent announcer to be honest, compared to some around the league. The bloke who used to do Mandurah games was pretty good, Bunbury's guy is half decent too. Better than those who appear to just have the mic cos nobody else in the club wants it and do a half assed job. The more advantage you can get at home the better

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sounds like Ruddiger has been watching Prue kick his teams ass for the last 10 years

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Anonymous  
Years ago

quite surprised one jake JB burston from the tigers wasn't picked up for the all star game, simply as a hype guy. I have heard the young lad does bring plenty of banter on and off the court...could be useful on an exciting weekend like ALL STAR WEEKEND!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

His stats don't come close to warranting an all star gig though

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Ruddiger  
Years ago

Or maybe I'm just reporting what's obvious...

Jarrad Prue stats (change from last year):
7.3 points (-4.7)
17.5 rebounds (-6.5)
1.0 assists (-0.7)
0.9 blocks (-0.5)
2.7 PFs (+0.3)

He's just gotten worse, that's the truth.

Luke Thomas, J Swing, Corey Martin all deserve to be in ahead of Prue.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I agree with Ruddiger, plenty of others deserving an all star gig ahead of Prue

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Paul Pierce  
Years ago

Need a 3 pt contest who cares about all star game!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I Agree with 3 Point Contest

Jackson or Bell (Lakeside)
Iliadis or Salinas (Joondalup)
Ralph (Gero)
Prior (Perth)
Godfrey (Rockingham)
Hafford (Mandurah)
Witts (Stirling)
Vague (East Perth)
Nichols (South West)
Scott (Willo)

Would be a pretty decent contest right there!!

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

^Um, you missed the 3PT percentage leader this season... Ryan Smith from the Hawks

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gavin Field
Austin Bruton

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Change Prior to Smith
Bell to Swing
Witts to almost anyone else on that team
Vague to Williamson
Scott to Easley

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Jake Burston is the biggest fkn loser in the league. How is he in the SBL? Cant even contribute in C grade against average has been WABL players.

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Anonymous from earlier, Kyle Armour is by far the best player on that team, its no coincidence that East Perth have had a drop without him. He's a guy trying to become a full time proffessional so why wouldnt he be playing with heart. You obviously havent played basketball at any decent level and are literally the worst kind of person.

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rinse  
Years ago

News from BWA is that there will be a three point contest.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Round 11 -
Perth v Rocko - close game, Turner hard to stop, Cooper Land hard to stop. Redbacks by a few
Slammers v Magic - too many offensive weapons for SW, Magic struggle on D. Slammers by double figures
Lakeside v EP - Lakeside imports will be way too much. Lakeside by double figures
Cockburn v Suns - Cougs playing well, Field virtually unstoppable. Not enough offense for the Suns. Cougars by double figures
Buccs v Hawks - Hankins-Cole leaving makes the Buccs better. Buccs by plenty
Giants v Tigers - Picking the upset here, Haney's physical style will upset the soft Tigers. Giants by a few
Stirling v Wolves - Will be closer than some predict, but Wolves comfortably in double figures
Wolves v Lightning - good chance for the Lightning to take advantage of a potentially tired Wolves outfit. Wolves too good though, by a few

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rinse  
Years ago

Week 10 in review:
Ray Turner putting in work to get Redback's a key win over the Slammers
Geraldton get the double, survive scare from Senators (say bye to Hankins Cole)
Hawks snag two wins and keep their season alive
Seasons over for East Perth and Kalamunda

Week 11:
The Swinging Piggies @ Perth Raybacks (as in the Perth sitting on Ray’s back):
What a week by Ray Turner, and according to some excellent research by the SBL he has had 3x games above 40/20 and 4 games above 30/15. Redbacks were staring down the barrel of a 5 game losing streak but snapped it against the league leading Slammers.
As for Rocko, big game last week by Cooper Land against a Tigers team that looks lost on how to defend star-players (Turner 58, Land 45, Hobbs 31, Nichols 34, Lewis 37, Mullenax 30). I’ll go with Redbacks on this, it’s a tough call but Turner is just too much of a consistent threat. Arachnids by 8.

Mandurah Ma-d logos host SouthWest Spurs:
Let’s all admit it, Mandurah do have a very good logo (and least some positives came out of their financial problems. And as for Southwest, they (Voelkel) pass the ball VERY well, helps when you have 4 scoring threats.
Mandurah suffered a tough loss to Goldfields 28pts but put Lakeside away earlier in the weekend. They actually look more comfortable away from home, (5-1 away), so with all that in mind, the Slammers will win this won on the back of their newfound hunger, winners by 15pts.

L-east Perth vs Lakeside M&ms:
So Lakeside released a rap song, shout out to my boy JB and Jordan Swing. It turned out pretty good.
This one was a no brainer but I had a quick think if the inclusion of Keanu Pinder 17/10 in 26 mins v Buccs would make a difference. It won’t.
Lakeside by 12pts.

Suns vs Clap Cougars:
Cockburn is both a symptom and a place!
Unfortunately for Kalamunda though, their altitude training makes for little advantage and the only symptoms their experiencing are déjà vu for the last few seasons.
Cougars big three v Kalamunda’s big 2 and a half. Lien and KA at Suns are super athletic but Cougars just the more well rounded team. Amazing that at the start of the season we all would’ve thought these two would be fighting it out for 2016 Draft Pick supremacy. Unfortunately Seva’s squad won’t get the Foo-WIN and im calling Cougars by 16pts.

Coach Carter vs Very Late Hawks:
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadeq...you get the idea. Coach Heron dismissed Hankins Cole on the back of (we only speculate) a showing of 'unprofessionalism’. Whether it was banging Carter Cook’s tambourine a little too enthusiastically at Vibe nightclub or some other percussionary related incident, the Buccs have had to send home an import for the second time in 2 season.
The Hawks have left their run a little late but still, should be commending for their 2 win weekend. Hobbs has apparently changed his playing style to suit the SBL (not convinced), but he scored a bucket load of point last week and now has the feathered fighters knocking on the top 8 door.
Unfortunately that door is closed this week, and the Buccs will have the game finished quicker than Jason Conrad’s visit to Perth (people don’t forget). Buccs by 100. Jks 25pts.

Cold-fields host W155etton Tigers
This is a tough call for me and believe me, it’ll be a far cry from the season opener where Willetton reduced the Giants through a 38 pt win. The Tigers team that decides to show up has changed more times than Easley has applied for a Transfer request, but at least their bench keeps them in the game when Scott and Davis fall asleep.
Home court advantage playing a part here, Giants by 12pts.

76’s vs Stirling Traitors
DID YOU KNOW: There are 76 Senators in Australia. Number of them that I recognised= 1 (Nick Xenophon)
DID YOU ALSO KNOW: Trian Iliadis and Rob Huntington both played juniors for Stirling. A few others probably did too, maybe even Kevin Davis. Traitors, ALL of them.
DID YOU ALSO ALSO KNOW: Of all the names you could have chosen for a Basketball team, then Senators is the worst. FACT.
North of the River derby, pretty easy to pick the Wolves by 15 in the contest. Stirling choking in the fourth against both Willetton and Geraldton last week, but can you blame them?! All politicians fall-through last minute on their promises.

Traitors take #2 vs 6Gods.
The views from the 6 will be pretty good for this one, it might be closer than you think with Joondalup playing 2 games in 18 hours and Lakeside refreshed from their morning service. Wolves with too much fire power from all players except Baskin Robbins (I really wanted to make that joke), 2 wins in 2 days by 10pts. Joondalup take their win streak to 7! M-M-M-MEGA KILL…

There you have it! Another review, let us know who YOU think will win and I’ll be sure to not reply so as not to start a faceless and unconstructive argument.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

lol

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Peter  
Years ago

I liked it Rinse!!

Good work!!

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Bit harsh on the Jake Burston topic, maybe stop focusing on his c-grade performances and start focusing on his rig and rinsing skills.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ruddiger obviously has no idea what hes on about

Managed to report his averages per game going down but failed to report the facts that he is also now coming off the bench and playing approx 10+ minutes less a game...

So yes, his rebounds and points might be down on previous years but how many players do you know who average 17.5 rb per game in 30 mins a game?

Why dont you ask Ray Turner what it was like playing against Prue the entire game the other week while Parkinson and Thomas were injured? Im sure he will tell you how sh*t he was!

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Winston  
Years ago

Prue put up 3 shots in 47 minutes for that game anon. He isn't a fricken all star, his glory days are over. If your beloved Jarrod Prue is an all star why isn't Lakeside higher. Argument for the sake of argument, loser

Great review rinse

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Ray Turner would probably most likely be like,"who's Jared Prue? ohhhhhhh that white guy yer he was ok, ran alot" Not because hes being disrespectful, just because he's above this league skill wise. Rinse on J B

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Watched Perth V Rockingham tonight.

Perth were in control most of the Game but didn't extend their lead out enough.

Then the awesomeness of SBL refs came into play. No calls, phantom travels, extra free throws, and 2 ridiculous no calls on Brown as he tried to tie the game.

I know I bag the refs a bit but if this League is to get and keep great players and lift its profile, something needs to be done.

To let more and more fouls go is a disservice to skilled players. It must be frustrating as players and Coaches to see games won and lost on the whim of a person with a whistle.

Turner had 39 and 20 and probably deserved a few more calls his way. Also had 5 Blocks with another good block called a goal tending. Brown, on the other hand, is not really performing. Too late to replace? Maybe it's too late for them to even bother now.

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Gary  
Years ago

Cougars smashed the Suns to tonight.

Gavin field amazing as usual. I truly believe he is the favourite for MVP at the moment. Swing and turner up there but looking jat team record I give the points to field.

Cougars sat in a zone most of the game and the Suns didn't know what to do.

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Winston  
Years ago

Mannnn, slammers went down, redbacks went down, lakeside went down. Shyiiii

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Ruddiger  
Years ago

Ay yo ANON! Where was Ya boy Prue last HUH?! Rhys Vagus had him on lock that's where.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Muo, Bowie, Holmen too strong for Tigers

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone see what happened at the end of wolves stirling??

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Jake Burston the skinny anorexic malnutrition suffering individual? Yeah hes cool.

Kyle "Waylon Biggar" Armour is cool too.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Is there a new CEO of BWA yet?

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Lukosius  
Years ago

I think they are still reviewing all the candidates.

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lel  
Years ago

Won't be for another 3 or so months.

Looks like one of the anonymous posts got their wish with J Prue getting the call up

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ridiculous. There are plenty more south players that deserve an all star gig than that whinger

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can anyone describe what the CEO will be in charge of? Will it make any difference?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Going by the previous CEO, not a lot and no not really

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Travis Armour to be CEO apparently.

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R00ster  
Years ago

Spotted at Wildcats training: Swing and Nichols

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Both would be very interesting at the next level. Nichols is probably too short. Swing would have to play the 3 if he started.

They will prob end up with another 2nd round draft pick though.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Cats always have a few Imports at their practices.

Turner was there last week and apparently had his way with people there.

So what did happen at the end of the Wolves-Senators game?
I heard there was a superfluous timeout called with 3 seconds to go that irked the opposition Coach somewhat.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thats what they said on the radio. Up 8 or something and a timeout with 3 seconds left dribbling out the clock.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Typical Ettridge bullshit then, arrogance in spades with him

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Anonymous  
Years ago

RH how do you expect the bball community of WA to support you and your token little store in the city, when you continuously bag out different people and clubs you don't care for on here? Maybe your shop should be called Redbacks101 or something similar instead

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Good to see you have the guts to post as Anon, that's real brave.

If I hated the SBL, why did I sponsor it for the last 3 years?

If I hate all Clubs why did I have a sponsorship for SBL and WABL at times?

Please show me where I have sponsored the Redbacks?

I did the radio show for 2 years for zero payments, I even closed early to get to the Studio on time.

So I have definitely supported the Basketball Community at large. Have you?

Have you donated goods to people in need? I have.

Have you given your time as a Coach and Administrator? I have.

Have you invested your life savings into a Small Business to cater to toe Game you love? I have.

I also have the balls to have an opinion and not hide. Do you? Obviously not.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There is a difference between bagging and stating a fact. If Etteridge did what was reported, pretty low move.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Dave Lindstrom certainly thought he did. He's seen a few things and for something to get him that riled up, it had to have a lot of truth to it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oh im RH oooh look at me, ive sponsored the League for my own financial benefit but will say im supporting local bball to make it look nice! Get over yourself. Other people do exactly what you have stated being administrators, volunteers etc we just dont advertise it seeking the recognition/ego boost. B.E has done more in the sport at a local, national and international level than most people in this state - so naturally there is going to be some self confidence in getting to the elite levels he has. It is weak people like you who sit behind that glass counter gloating, or on the sidelines at Perth games abusing opposing players, coaches and referees that have zero reason to be arrogant. Yet you still portray it more than most ever will, all because you were on the radio with your Redbacks mate Cecins! "Golf Clap for Hobbs everybody, he was on the radio" #wow

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

So, what have you done? Apart from complain and bad-mouth someone to justify your defence of another person?

So which Team do you support?

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Why are 75% of all the posts on here either a whinge or an argument?

It's because anonymous users are allowed. Most of the things said on here would not be on here if you had to put a legitimate name to your post.

Instead of whinging, complaining and arguing, why not post something that we may actually be interested in.

What about an analysis of the two mens Allstar teams (without whinging about the team selections)? Anyone willing to add to that?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The south team SHOULD absolutely murder the north.

South has flat out scorers, distributors and legit size. North has Sebba, Trian and Lewis that can shoot, Turner and Davis with size. Given it's an all star game and there will be a fair amount of show boating anyone could win it. South is more talented though in my opinion.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

I reckon any SBL All-star team with Turner and Lewis would be really difficult to outscore.

Let's all get passed this childish sniping at one another. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and don't need to be critisised for having one.

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Macca  
Years ago

Anonymitiy is an interesting beast Lukosius!

South All Stars probably edge the North for me. It should be an entertaining game and cudos to the league for putting the event on.

Just on the radio show for 2015, does anyone have any thoughts?

Personally, I have really enjoyed the approach Mansfield and Cecins have taken on trying to provide a fresh approach to the media for the League. Mansfield's open letter to the players has been not just a highly interesting read but something players, parents, coaches and fans can appreciate and learn from.
To me, Cecins does a great job on the show of staying impartial and despite Mansfields attempts in the rapid fire questions to bring him undone he seems to me to have handled the redbacks questions with an honest opinion? His articles are a also a fresh approach from just a normal recap on the week's games.
I think its great they interview coaches/players after games as it really shows they are out there and talking to people and captures the moment. The live game calls are great too.

As we head into the backend of the season its surely shaping up to be a close one to make the 8. From 6-11 it can go many different ways! Hopefully that creates some opportunity for some quality banter on here... whinging or no whinging I think its great to have a space where people are at least having some conversation about our league! Especially now the SBL forum is dead.

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Tieler Mullinax  
Years ago

Lukosius Smells

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Josh Throns rumored to be returning this weekend?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Still wont help the Senators make the playoffs

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rinse  
Years ago

Week 11 in review:
Wolves jump to the top of the Ladder, and rightly so after a 7 game win streak! Slammers on a 2 game slide.
Tigers, Lightning, Senators all lose stock as Goldfields look to capitalise
Cougars on a 4 game streak, sitting fifth

Week 12:
Least Perth vs Leastern Suns.
Battle of the least worry's with 13th v 14th. It’s probably a tough call here as East Perth took out Lakeside last week [free throws win games guys-Lakeside (7/15) East Perth (24/29)] and with Pinder provided some sort of a bench for the Eagles, I’ll go with East Perth to drag themselves off the bottom of the ladder. I pray for their sake that they don’t go from hero to zero in one season! Eagles by 6pts.

Mandurah Mad-logos vs Cockburn Cavs
Cockburn from their predicted wooden spoon position have found themselves fifth thanks for Meelam (Love), Lane (Irving) and Field (James). And yes, that is a far stretch of a comparison but it’ll do for now. The Cougars are looking good, and have been taking their Azithromycin to stay healthy and free of any burning sensation.
They take on a fourth placed Mandurah who profited from the Tigers poor recent efforts and who knocked the Slammers off their perch at the top. The magic are making the most of their weekend escapes from the 6210 , now 6-1 away. This has to go their way, in a closish one, winners by 8pts.

Heron’s Buccs v Rocko’s r@nd0m Flames
Well well well, out with the old and in with the new for Geraldton. Out goes Hankins-Cole, Gero ...Thank-ins him for his services, and in comes Bang-bang Cooperwood. Word was Cooperwoods been looking around the SBL for a gig and found a home in the further possible clubs from the CBD. Nonetheless, it’s probably an upgrade and certainly should fit in well with the team in the Midwest.
Rocko got away with a 2pt win vs Ray Turner who had another strong performance, again getting to the FT far more times and making the most of it. The SBL’s toughest assignment playing up in at ActiveWest and the road doesn’t get any easier for the Hot House boys either, with Slammers next week and Joondalup the week after. if you were a betting man you’d bank on the Buccs. Winner by 14pts.

Lakeside Static vs Goldfields GIANTS
No pun needed for Goldfields, they’re playing like Gold and Giants…and a field. Gav Field. Anyway. They’ve now won 5 of their last 6 (probably should’ve beaten the Hawks) , but wins against Mandurah, Cockburn and Willetton prove that they can make the 8.
Lakeside will probably be the team that misses out as a result, with rumours Swing is setting his sights on a Wildcats gig. Brad Jackson was a combined 0/12 last weekend and Pat Banks 0/8, the lack of bench depth puts extra stress on Swing (48 and 42 mins). Lakesides FG% is astonishingly low thanks to their shot attempts which spills into triple figures, and much like a FIFO worker being laid off, they didn’t make the most of their many chances.
FUN FACT: Lightning bench only contribute 19% of their overall scoring. To put this in perspective, the Cleveland Cavaliers have the worst bench in the NBA as a % of total scoring at 23%.
Giants feeling it, and will get the DUB, by 10pts.

Willetton Kittens v Hobbling Hawks
Willetton was 8-2 at Round 10 and third. Now they sit 6th at 9-6. Formerly the best defensive team, they’ve dropped back to third and let teams below them beat them, something they had a handle on early in the season. It’s tough to point out any one problem for them, which they’ll have to get their heads around before its too late.
The Hawks who were looking like they could’ve turned the corner following Week 10s double win, look empty with no Hobbs. Purser is making like Frodo Baggins, unwilling to share the load (the load , the load) with 8 turnovers and 1 assist last week. The rest of the Samwise Gamgee Hawks team now down 28.8 ppg with Hobbs gone (not sure for how long?), look like the wooden spoon could come their way.
Willetton need this precious win, and they’ve been good at home (6-1). Tigers by 15pts.

WON-neroo Wolves v Perth Ray-Backs
Once again it was Ray Turner putting the team up on his back, with a 39/20 + 5 blks performance. Wouldn’t mind seeing him down at Wildcats training. His only weakness? Turnovers with 4.8 average, but you can understand why when he gets double and at times triple teamed on the post.
59 FG%, 33.3 ppg, 17.8rpg, 2.3bpg . MVP stat line.
Mediocre efforts from Marshal Brown and Marshal Nelson (backup PG returning from college) didn’t help last week in their loss by 2.
On the other hand, Joondalup at now sitting at the top and are consistently getting multiple players into the game. Over their 7 game win streak, they have:
-Won every first quarter except 1 drawn v Hawks
-Won 5 second quarters (vs Mandurah the game was over in the first quarter 45-16)
-6 games have had 5 or more dbl figure scorers
Still, Redbacks can produce upsets but the obvious choice is Joondalup by 10 pts.
WON-neroo Wolves vs GOLDfields GIANTS
Both teams going back to back, it was no problem for Joondalup last week and shouldn’t be this week either. Wolves by 20pts. With all their following games winnable until the Slammers, expect them to go 11-12 wins in a row. J33P3R$!

South West Slippers vs Xenophons Senators
SW are slipping, losing to Redbacks and Mandurah in the last 2 weeks. It won’t be havoc and chaos just get for Harrelson’s boys, but perhaps they’ll spend a bit more time looking over game tapes than making promotional videos.
Since Jordan Wild has showed up and Ellis has departed, the Senators are 0-5. Somewhere between being a generally bad bloke on the court, leading the team in fouls and talking unnecessary trash, he has disrupted the team chemistry they looked to have and it has probably cost them a top 8 finish.
Southwest to get back into the winners column, by 16pts.

*****ALL STAR GAME***** v2.0
Notorious North v Slamming South
NORTH:
Team scoring average: 267.1/13= 20.55 ppg
TAKING ONLY ALL STAR STATS:
TOP 10 REBOUNDERS: 3
TOP 10 ASSISTS: 3
Player of the Weeks: 3 (Turner 2x)

SOUTH:
Team scoring average 266/13 = 20.46 ppg
TAKING ONLY ALL STAR STATS:
TOP 10 REBOUNDERS: 7
TOP 10 ASSISTS: 7
Player of the Weeks: 4 (Field 2x)

It’s a really tough call, the team and rebounding capacity of the South (Prue, Wundenberg, Voelkel, Land, Mullenax, Smith) vs the x-factor in Turner, Davis, and Lewis. Being an SBL All-star game, I think the South will relax a bit more on the boards and passing, so this one goes to the North for me. Winners by 1 point!

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Press Up  
Years ago

Hi Roy, anyone who calls a time out when they are up 8 with seconds to go is an idiot in anyones book. But just being Devils advocate here, if you can get your hands on the game tape, you will see that Stirling were pressing up on the Wolves (in itself strange). So perhaps Ethridge was doing what most coaches would do, and that's call a time out and set something up? Not that he needed to (being up 8), but if Stirling are going to press up with the game over, might as well throw something back at them.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Hi Press Up,

I doubt I'll get the Game tape and all I have to go on is the word of a couple well respected people and your information. From that I'd say it seems like a bit of a grey area perhaps?

As pure conjecture maybe something happened for Stirling to press? Maybe they thought they had Reggie Miller in the game, I don't know.

My comments are based on what I was told as well as past dealings with the person involved.

I do appreciate you giving detail and some perspective on the end of the game, much appreciated.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Are the All-Star rosters confirmed yet?

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Sick Myth  
Years ago

Hey Hobbs...since you're such a support of local hoops and the SBL, whats the chances of reaching into this deep pockets with those short arms of yours and donating to Youth Focus on the day? That would be one way to shut a few people up on here. Actions speak louder than keyboard clicks...

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Not sure where people get this notion I am raking in money, I guarantee you that 95% of people working a full-time job get paid more than me.

Also, making "requests" in this manner is poor form. It seems like an attempt to shame me into something, something I'm sure Youth Focus would not be a party to.

So I will have to politely decline.

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Macca  
Years ago

leave Mr Hobbs alone... he does a lot for promoting basketball in Perth.

He expresses his opinions just like anyone else on here... maybe could ease off the refs from time to time but hey couldnt we all?

He has a small local business who has probably been more active in the local game than any other businesses in recent times. He also employs players from the SBL. I can remember Power Play sports had a bit of involvement a few years back but arent involved any longer from what i know? Outside of that i havent seen any of the foot lockers or rebel sports or name any other big chain who has thrown sponsorship at the SBL / WABL?
Id much rather support a local business like Kickz101 than any of the other generic chains who dont give two hoots about our local league

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Rabbit 64  
Years ago

So much negativity! Hobbsy very sensitive regarding $$ and who has/has-not given back to basketball as much as he/she would like

I want to propose a different chain of thought for the future of the League.

Conferences: North & South

North: Buccs, Wolves, Senators, Hawks, Eagles, Redbacks, Suns

South: Slammers, Magic, Flames, Cougars, Lightning, Tigers, Giants

* You play each team in your conference TWICE (Home & Away) / You play each team in opposite Conference ONCE (Alternating Home / Away) from year to year; Giving you a 19 Game Regular Season
* Top TWO Teams from EACH Conference Automatically Qualify for Finals, then Four Teams with BEST RECORD overall make up 5 - 8
* Season moved forward to align with SEABL / ABA to create a 'Western ABA'; with BOTH Regular Season Conference Champions qualifying for National ABA Tournament in September
* Week 10 of Season to be known as ALL STAR Weekend, with venue to rotate between Clubs Annually
* Revamped Finals Structure > Quarters & Semis: Games 1 & 2 Week 1 @ Higher Seed Stadium / Game 3 if required Week 2 @ Lower Seed Stadium (Earn right to get a Final on your court) >> Grand Final SERIES Games 1 & 2 Week 1 @ Higher Seed / Game 3 if required @ Lower Seed
* League to get Apparel Sponsor to fit out ENTIRE League > Increase Professionalism
* Increased Social Media Presence > Official YouTube; FB; Twitter; Radio Shows; Game Coverage (Play by Play Radio / Game of the Week NetStream ) Linking in with Curtin / ECU Journalism programs to encourage development
* New Clubs formed to allow for expansion: Mundaring / Bullsbrook / Butler / Baldivis / Albany

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Macca  
Years ago

leave Mr Hobbs alone... he does a lot for promoting basketball in Perth.

He expresses his opinions just like anyone else on here... maybe could ease off the refs from time to time but hey couldnt we all?

He has a small local business who has probably been more active in the local game than any other businesses in recent times. He also employs players from the SBL. I can remember Power Play sports had a bit of involvement a few years back but arent involved any longer from what i know? Outside of that i havent seen any of the foot lockers or rebel sports or name any other big chain who has thrown sponsorship at the SBL / WABL?
Id much rather support a local business like Kickz101 than any of the other generic chains who dont give two hoots about our local league

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nice thoughts Rabbit. I can see some potential in a lot of those points, and any idea that has someone other than Chris Pike writing articles I am all for!!!

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Rabbit 64, that is the best post anyone has made on here ever, besides the one that said Luksios smells that was extremely relevant and accurate because he does smell.

The league should definitely turn to a shortened season to allign with other leagues if more than anything to improve the leagues legitimacy. Even though turds like to talk about how the standard in WA is good and better than say QLD and NSW, no one on the east coast actually cares.

If anything our league should be trying to follow the NZ approach to a shortened season that fits perfectly with the NBL offseason, therefore allowing the best possible players to compete and be paid for if necessary. Any link between other leagues to encourage cross competeition should be encouraged because it is good for australian basketball at a minimum.

the conference idea is great also because if you talk to any of the players, having zero weekends off during the season is annoying as fug, Victorian leagues always account for long weekends and the whole league benefits for it.

Regards,

your dad

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rinse  
Years ago

Can someone acknowledge my awesome review please . Thanks

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koberulz  
Years ago

Playing the deciding game of a playoff series at the lower-seeded team's venue is an absurd idea.

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Dh  
Years ago

Awesome reviews Rinse Look forward to them every week Keep up the great work

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Suns should easily account for the Eagles.

Cockburn V Magic will be a great game. Who guards Gav? I don't think magic are defensively up to the challenge of Cougars

Buccs Rocko: Buccs should win at home, interesting to see how Cooperwood fits in and plays with their style. Would fit better to bench Ralphy and start CC.

Lightning Goldfields: Lightning lose 3 in a row, giants win 5 of 6. This game will be won by whoever actually plays defense..

Given the form of the tigers you could see an upset here maybe. Not without Hobbs though.

Wolves should easily account for the redbacks who are still to get it together. Also beat the giants who will struggle to back it up.

Bunbury easily. Need to get back to winning ways.


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cannot wait for the Cougars v Magic game, going to be a cracker at the Den

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who is Geordie Murray and why is Rhys Vague in a shooting competition?

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Geordie is a Redback junior that went o the US for a couple years. First season at Kalamunda. His shooting % is no joke, he's a great 3 point shooter.

I'm also kinda surprised at Vague, 29.8% from 3.

Austin Bruton is one I'd like to see in there. Joel Questel too? Led League in 3pt% twice.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wildcats influence getting Vague in

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Peter  
Years ago

How can you have a 3 pt comp with out
A.Bruton/B.Jackson/D.Williamson

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Most people who know me would say that generally I smell quite nice.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oh ok, didn't mean the "who is" comment as a slight. Hadn't heard of him before.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

who is in the 3 point shoot out?

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B jackson is having a poor year.

No way Vagus should be in there but definitely a Wildcats influence. You have to remember that the more the Wildcats and Lynx promote it, the more people come. Note Lynxs fb post.

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gary  
Years ago

time to label cougars contenders?, smashed magic by 40+ tonight even with quiet games from lane and field by their standards

have beaten wolves.

yet to play buccs.

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no  
Years ago

^No. Just No. They aren't in the same league as Slammers or Gero. Have you seen these teams play?!

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Ruddiger  
Years ago

Wasn't it only like 2 weeks ago they beat East perth by 7. Sorry Gary, Ya dreaming

Good team, but if they make the grand final I will publicly name myself and do a nude run at the GF

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Dh  
Years ago

Mandurah had no Ben Smith but played shocking .Loked like they weren't interested
cougars playing really well
Won't be surprised to see a nude runner at GF
So Magic beat Slammers Cougars Killed Magic . Are Tigers out of the picture? Interesting run home.

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Ruddiger  
Years ago

Tigers certainly need to get some wins on the board. Obviously the top 3 are set, and tigers were chilling in 4th for a while but now it's looking like :

Gero, slammers, Cougars

Cougars, Magic, Flames and or Tigers

Lightning, Stirling, redbacks and creeping into the picture are the Giants

Hawks, Suns, Eagles

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Dh  
Years ago

Contenders Buccs Slammers Wolves Cougars

Pretenders Giants Tigers Magic Flames These four teams in consistent
Don't hold much hope for the rest.
Stats
Are the big scorers scoring higher this year 25 was considered a good scorein previous years.This year we are seeing a lot of over 30 points by players

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koberulz  
Years ago

Anyone know what the story was with Ray Turner's fouls tonight? The Joondalup fans seemed to think he should have had one more than he did for most of the night.

Wasn't impressed with the PA announcer. Heckling the home team isn't really in the job description.

When did Joondalup become Joondalup, anyway? What was wrong with Wanneroo?

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Mimas 40  
Years ago

Wanneroo became Joondalup last year I think. City of Joondalup put a lot of money into their program.

Also if the Redbacks announcer was Mitch Tinley then that explains the heckling. Wannabe stand up comedian doesn't know when to stop, and got similar feedbacks from Willetton too

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

The announcer was M.Tinley and he was cringeworthy.

Calling Joel Wagner Joely all night was straight disrespect. Plus making your own nicknames up is not cool. Oh yeah, calling Dennis Tawhiti princess over the mike? Thats just dumb and childish. It should make people recognize the great work Mat Cecins does.

The Joondalup fans were quite vocal all night. I think they wanted 400 fouls on Perth and zero on Joondalup.

Perth were totally out-classed the last 3 quarters, outscored 100-49, not a misprint.

They had no counters or answers to Joondalup pressuring the wings and ball reversal.

The game did feature 3 of the best athletes in the SBL and they all put on a dunking show.

Better team won and handily at that.

I'm crossing my fingers Ceccy is back for every Redbacks game from now.

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rinse  
Years ago

Interesting thatTurner and Wagner have been pulled from the All star game, pretty poor effort if it's just the club saying we want to rest our players/not have them risk injury. IMO Redbacks should be replacing withdrawn players with other players from their team, not really fair. Especially when Buccs, Wolves, Slammers, all put up 3 players + coaches

Anyway, don't want to ruffle feathers if I'm wrong. But poor effort if so.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Who did Jarrad Prue replace in the South All-Stars?

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koberulz  
Years ago

Also if the Redbacks announcer was Mitch Tinley
The announcer was M.Tinley

Related to Catherine Tinley? That would at least explain him critiquing her free-throw technique ("there's a lane violation, so Tinley will shoot one more...and she will use her legs this time"), not that it makes it not a bad idea.

And after one of the Joondalup women hit a three, he announced it and followed with "and if someone could get a hand up, that would be lovely".



Oh yeah, calling Dennis Tawhiti princess over the mike? Thats just dumb and childish.

Did you hear the Joondalup fan yell "princess" at him just before he took the shot that led to that comment? Not that getting into it with opposition fans is a brilliant idea, but there was a context.


The Joondalup fans were quite vocal all night. I think they wanted 400 fouls on Perth and zero on Joondalup.

The thing I was asking about, though, was they seemed to be sure the scorebench screwed up somewhere. When Turner got his third, they yelled out that he should have four, then when he got his fourth asked if they were going to give him his third again, and protested that he should be fouled out after he got his fifth. It was all directed at the scorebench, rather than the refs, so I'm wondering if a mistake was made, or the fans were just wrong.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Koberulz, I didn't hear the princess comment from the crowd. Either way he shouldn't be saying that. Dennis wasn't too pleased having a Home commentator saying that.

With the foul count for Turner, I was unaware of that too. The score bench at Perth is very experienced so I doubt they'd mess that one up.

Mitch is Cats younger brother I do believe.

Rinse, you may be onto something with your thoughts.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Stirling Senators coached ejected tonight.

How old is that guy just curious?

After a massive alley oop dunk from Tre Nichols he was etched for some reason and ejected.

Pretty good game, Lindbergh sucks, filthy put back dunk from one of their young kids was a highlight. Place erupted and it was a Slammers home game. One of the best dunks I've seen

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Mordecai 56  
Years ago

Fun stat of the night:

Games played by Jordan Wild : 6
Games lost : 6
Seeing a rude player lose. Priceless

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Science  
Years ago

So first things first, a very fun day at the SBL all star game. Credit to BWA and the SBL for putting on the event, and also for supporting a charity with the proceeds.

Players all put on a show, and really got around each other which was good! Lots of scoring, dunks, oops, fun day.

My only really negative experience was the annoying samples the DJ KEPT playing. Okay, we get it, 'he's heating up' and 'my name is Jeff' very funny. But I counted over 50 for the day. Around 6 times a quarter, the same sample. IT got really annoying.

Cecins did a good job, sad to see Turner at the game but not playing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I hope Turner is pissed that he's not playing because of the stupid decision by the Redbacks.

High quality stuff, Tre Nichols "THE MAN" is a gun!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where was it initially posted that Turner wasn't going to play? I didn't know until got to the game, bit annoying.

I think the top 8 will stay as it is for the rest of the year. Giants won some good games but got flogged over the weekend. Muo also went down with a knee injury against Lakeside. Redbacks seem to be out of it, same with Stirling.

Magic might finish higher than Willo though.

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Mitch Tinley and Jake Burston, pretty much same person, both idiots.

What has happened to AJ from the Redbacks?

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

I think Turners withdrawal was posted up the night before, in the middle of the article announcing Austin and Rob being added.

AJ hurt his calf the previous week from memory, thats why he sat out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's a shame they held out Wags and Turner, it could lead to something being put into contracts regarding health and the all star game to prevent this kind of thing.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Why did only 1 Team do it? Everyone knows my allegiances and I think it was the wrong decision.

If we want the SBL to flourish and an All-Star Game to be a regular and successful thing, every Club and Team need to be 100% on-board.

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Peter  
Years ago

Turner is a crowd favourite and is very likely to be MSBL MVP so a bit of a shame he couldnt compete.
Im sure he wanted to.

As far as top 8 comments -
I would say Perth and Lakeside are fighting for the last spot in the 8.
Lakeside with 1 game in hand, and also the head to head advantage.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I dont know if Turner is necessarily "likely to be MSBL MVP" given the poor performance of his team. He is definitely a strong contender but you would have to consider some other guys like Swing, Nichols and Lewis given their performances this year too.

Someone needs to book Cody Ellis a flight home immediately if Stirling want any chance of making the playoffs this year. Wild on paper seems a good fill in for Ellis but it just hasnt worked.

Flames are not safe yet either. Looking at their last few games they barely beat Redbacks (2) and Stirling (with Wild, by 6) and were blown out by Gero, Wolves and Tigers. They still have to play an extra game and have to play 5 of the top 6 teams again.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mandurah are very susceptible on D, even without Ben Smith. Cockburn took them apart right from the tip. I'm not sure what game plan their coach has on D but it doesnt look effective at all.

Rocko are in deep trouble unless they can pull it together and beat some of the top teams in the next few weeks.

Jordan Wild needs to go home

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's tough for someone in one of the top teams to win the MVP because they often have great players across the lineup e.g. slammers. Nichols would probably win it easily if he wasn't sharing votes. He could still I guess. Turner won't get the 3 votes in his losses but would probably get 2 in each, and 3 in the wins.. so could go close...could say the same for Swing..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Does that mean someone like Gavin Field would be a favourite? Being that the top teams will all have votes shared amongst their top 2 or 3. Lane or Milam won't take too many votes off Bob in their wins

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seb Salinas should be the MVP. Best player on the best team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah Gav could be up there.

Is Seb better than Trian?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No way Seb will win MVP. May be ONE of the best players on the team but hasnt played well enough to earn 3 votes in every game

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Last 5 MVP's and ladder position:

2014 MVP - Cooper Land - Flames (team finished 2nd on ladder in reg season)
2013 MVP - Ben Beran - Lightning (team finished top of the ladder in reg season)
2012 MVP - Damian Matacz - Wolves (team finished top of the ladder in reg season)
2011 MVP - Anthony Lee - Hawks (team finished 4th on the ladder in reg season)
2010 MVP - Ryan Zamroz - Buccs (team finished 3rd on ladder in reg season)

I think its safe to say that being in the top teams in the league does not hurt your chances of being MVP. Probably the opposite.

As far as stealing votes looking at these teams there were plenty of players to steal votes from these guys. I dont know how well that argument sits either?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You only have to look at Luke Payne to see the arguement of stealing votes. Won 80+% of his games in 4 years, easily one of the top 2-3 players in the league. No mvp.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Damian Matacz teammates in 2012:
Jordan Wild
Greg Hire
Brad Robbins
Jackson Hussey

All of these guys had a good season and I am 100% positive would have stolen votes from Damian throught the year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Damian Matacz teammates in 2012:
Jordan Wild
Greg Hire
Brad Robbins
Jackson Hussey

All of these guys had a good season and I am 100% positive would have stolen votes from Damian throught the year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hire played 15 games, Robbins played 7, No Jordan Wild that year. Hussey averaged 13 ppg.

Damo was CLEARLY the best on that team that year. Well deserved.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sorry Wild was on that team. Not showing on the website.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Matacz was definitely deserving and in no way was I trying to say he wasnt.

Im saying that despite him being the MVP there were games that year that Hire went off, Wild went off and Hussey also had some ripper games that would have certainly taken votes from Matacz.

To me the argument that great players in top teams cannot win the MVP because they have teammates that steal votes from them isnt really accurate. Matacz MVP shows this and honestly so does Beran, Lee and Zamroz MVP's.
Land was pretty dominant in his team but also not without guys who would have stolen votes... i just dont get this argument

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Dh  
Years ago

Where is Hussey now

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Anonymous  
Years ago

desperately trying to remember what his Aussie accent sounded like

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Anonymous  
Years ago

haha

Hussey plays for Pikeville in the NAIA

his aussie accent has all but disappeared

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RMQ  
Years ago

SCIENCE - Thanks for the feedback.

This was our first time doing a major SBL event at Bendat Bball Stadium.

We don't usually use so many effects, and it was something new we were trying for the All Star game.

I agree that too much was used and we'll take your feedback on board and use less at our next event.

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Science  
Years ago

@RMQ, very professional to take feedback on board and to visit these forums to see what people are talking about.

The samples were the only negative, as for the music itself and everything else. Grade A. Good music choices with instrumentals etc. hopefully we see you at the big dance at the end of the year!

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RMQ  
Years ago

@SCIENCE - no probs. I actually posted a topic a few days before asking people for music suggestions.

We usually do the East Perth Games at Morley Rec- I'm a former East Perth player so we enjoy doing these games, but East Perth's sound equipment is from the 70s and a pain to use every week. Ideally we'd like to "free lance" to clubs to do occasional games here and there.

We were given an unofficial notice to book in the grand final so that's good news.

It's always a bit harder to do an all star game as there's no clear "home team" and fans don't really have any invested interest in either team - so we played more music than we'd like to.

A grand final would also have it's own uniqueness - as you can't be biased to one side.

Either way, we enjoy doing it and the challenge of trying to be the best - and would like to eventually get a go at the Wildcats, but I know there is a lot of restrictions and rules when it comes to doing the Wildcats games.

Thanks for the feedback on the music - that's good to hear (no pun intended haha). It really is an experience thing - we sometimes add things to our playlist that we think will work and then we use it and recognise whenit doesn't, so we are constantly adjusting.

Our general philosophy when it comes to game music is to play stuff at the right time that complements the atmosphere/emotion/pace of the game (much easier in a regular game). Not just play stuff for the sake of playing it.

We like to to play music that the players get into a bit too - even though the target audience is the paying crowd, I find that if you can see the players enjoying themselves and displaying some personality then they are more into it and the fans will benefit as well.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I thought the music was great. I really liked the little sound bytes aswell they spiced it up a bit.

I would suggest not using those sillier clips during the GF though as it should be all hype and business, not funny that day.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WHERE IS RINSE

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rinse has been shut down by the league...

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Science  
Years ago

PICKS FOR THIS WEEK! (Sorry for the lateness, girlfriend troubles)
And I have eluded the league this far!


HOT house host the SLAMMIN 5'10ers
It’s a mixed bag of emotions when I watch Tre Nichols play. On one hand I enjoy watching his athleticism, and on the other, I question my life up til this point and how a man 2 inches shorter than me can throw it down so easily.

Flames hanging on to that 7th spot or thereabouts, and form would suggest they’ll maintain it. But Geraldton last week, Slammers this week, it’s a tough gig. Slammers have proven to be beatable, but this week they’ll handle the Land brothers by 12 points.

Whittle-town Tigers v WINaroo Wolves
Tigers stock is dropping and the win against the Hawks last week at home was much needed. If I were them, I’d be sweating hard, harder than a one armed bricklayer in Baghdad. Their one shining light at the moment is that they’re 7-1 at home which really plays to their advantage, albeit v average teams.
Wanneroo are now hitting their stride and a 9 game winning streak is more than enough to place them at the top. Argue about stacking your team and not support youth later, but these guys are deeper than Cody Ellis’ range. Had the pleasure of watching Kevin Davis play at the All-star game, and though he plays low minutes, he has me excited to be at tonight’s game.
Wolves by 20pts

Poor-th Redbacks v Eastern Suns
Let me make this very clear:
Who will win the game? Perth
Am I happy with that? No.
It has emerged recently that Nik SLakovic did indeed pull his players for fear of injury. Neither player was injured (in case you didn’t know, Turner and Wagner) and it has caught the attention of many SBL followers that one of the best players in the league wasn’t suited up for the All Star game. He was courtside which was good to see that it wasn’t his decision to be pulled, and by all accounts he seems like a nice enough guy who is keen to be involved around the league.
I am a strong believer that this league will only improve and get better if all clubs are on board and buy into the philosophy from the top. If you’re at work, your organisation is only going to move forward if everyone buys in. Good work from everyone else. As you can tell, this really ground my gears, Geraldton and Kalgoorlie put up players and a team, as did Slammers. There is literally no excuse.

Anyway, rant over, Perth by 16pts.

Mountain Cats v Eight-side Lightning
This one should be a ripper! While Cockburn is playing very well, Lakeside MAY have turned the corner here, with Brad Jackson having a monster game. They really need that performance from their bench (0ther than Prue) if they want to solidify their spot in the top 8. Nonetheless, their win against Goldfields last week keeps them lingering around, like Mike Costello pre and post-game.
Cockburn on paper should get this, Lane, Milam and Field just clicking right now and disposing of Mandurah last week (their closest competitor) by a whopping 41pts! Cougars by... 10 pts.

Bendat Hawks vs Rocko
It still doesn’t sound right and I’m still tentative to call it the BBC. 3 pt shootout winner Ryan Smith probably could be the solution to a Hobb’less outfit, but the season is a write-off IMO. Rockingham on a b2b but don’t expect it to play a factor here, with the Land brothers getting the job done by 16pts.

PS anyone got an ETA on Hobbs? I would like to catch a game of his.

Suffering Senators v Eager Eagles!
Eagles have now strung two games together, while all those around them have dropped 2 or more. 2 really strong wins could actually see them jump up to ninth and their upcoming schedule don’t look too bad! Stirling, Magic, Redbacks and Lightning. If they want to make a push, it’s now.

The senators as people have pointed out, have been victims of Wild Cow disease. Once 5-4, they’re now 5-10. Nick Xenophon would not be please, but a chance here for them to get into top 8 conversation again. While Adam Goodes fails at constructively spreading the message of Indigenous inequality, so too does Jordan Wild succeed at being a Flog and fail at spreading the word of God, as he has claimed to do. (I have met and heard the guy) Actions speak louder than words friends.
I think East Perth’s luck runs out now, and Senators up by 6pts.

The Hills are dead vs Ger-ARRRRRRldton Buccs (sorry it’s all I had)
What’s a pirate’s favourite letter?
RRRRRR I THINK IT’S THE C!
No brainer in this contest, but it’ll be good to see everyone’s thoughts on whether the Buccs are better or worse with the Corey/Quincy swap.
Buccs by 25pts.

Jay and Jacobs Giants HOST Mullenax, Mafford and Mmith’s Magic

Mandurah will be out for blood in this road trip, after being victims of an upset back 2 weeks back by 28 points @ home. A loss for Mandurah could see them concede some ground to Rockingham, while a win for Goldfields could see them gain on Stirling, Lakeside and Perth. This will be my pick for match of the round, as Mandurah have been solid away. The Magic with more inside options than an all you can eat buffet (shout out to Lapa Brazilian BBQ where I’ll be next Monday). Magic by 5pts

Interesting Fact of the round: Mandurah sitting in 6th actually have a sub-100 F/A which is surprising given they’re 10 and 6! Close games both going their way and against:

L vs Buccs by 2
L vs Hawks by 1
W vs Redbacks by 7
W vs Lakeside by 1
W vs Cougz by 5
W vs Slammers by 3

Huge losses though in Joondalup (41), Goldfields (28) and Cockburn (41) though.

Cougz v Buccz
2 home games for the weekend! Last time I saw this was back in round 1 with the Eastern Suns, but they’ll certainly need the home court adv verse an always strong Buccs squadddd. 3rd best in offence and defence for the Buccs with 111 ppg and 96 papg. Cockburn a little less scoring power and allowing a little more, has to go Buccs way barring an upset. Cougars 6 game win string comes to an end, buccs extend to 6: winners by 12.


Questions for the Hoop faithful!!!:

Is Geraldton better or worse with Hankins gone and Cooperwood in?

If you were a coach, would you rest players during an All-star weekend?

Who will take the 8 spot?

Til next time!

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rinse  
Years ago

well...in case you haven't noticed now, rinse and science are now the same person. -_-... Apologies for my lack of awareness. Lucky I didn't bash anyone as Science though!! X

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anything with an MC reference in the write up gets a thumbs up from me!!!

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

1. Better I reckon after a couple of games.
2. Only Lackofdick would do that. He's best suited to recruiting other clubs juniors.
3. Who cares, they'll be gone by plenty in the first round.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cory Coopercole v Quincy Hankins-wood, I think Cory is a better all round player. Quincy more entertaining to watch.

Refusing to let selected players participate in an SBL All Star game is un-Australian

Lakeside will hold onto 8th

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ruddiger  
Years ago

Do you think Brad Robbins knows people think he's a dirty player? It makes me sick watching how he plays the game. Just bullying people off the ball. I know it's not domestic fun basketball, but still have some respect for the game it's not F*ing AFL

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

I think Robbo is 100% aware of what people think. I reckon he wouldn't give a shit either.

Why no Nichols for Southwest?

Was there a controversy in that game? Heard there was some paperwork handed in afterwards.

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Greeny  
Years ago

Will Suns be looking for another new coach? Or is it the extreme lack of depth, no outstanding juniors coming through and the good ones are a long way off playing SBL.
Suns need to chase players from other teams, until some juniors can step up.
I think Warren Kuhn was a mistake, had a lot of people come because of his development coaching then they left.

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Cold Ethyl  
Years ago

I thing Joe-Allen Tuppyeyea has got Robbo covered in the dirty player stakes!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Suns have massive potential to be a powerhouse club but seem to continually turn away good people

I don't know if it's necessarily the coach of the msbl that is ultimately responsible but they probably need to look at why they are not attracting or retaining the right people.

Losing Questel and Smith, the captain and vice captain of the team has to set off alarm bells. Losing Louis Timms, another big blow. Why are these guys all leaving?

Suns produced some decent SBL prospects in guys like Marshall Nelson who left for Redbacks and Jared Zornada now at East Perth.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Why didn't Cooperwood play this weekend?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cooperwood in Greece, will be back in the coming weeks

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Lucky  
Years ago

Cougars just seem to keep finding ways to snatch victory!
Gav Field is ridiculous! Unparralled shot maker. I hope the Wildcats give him a look in.

THE interesting thing is though...they keep getting teams on the backend of double headers and without key players - Magic no Smith, Buccs no Cooperwood...next up Tigers with no Cody I would suggest after hurting his ankle pretty bad Friday night.


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Bob  
Years ago

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great win by the Cougars on Sunday. The same cant be said for the articles this week, painful reads, especially Sunday's. When will the SBL start realising that this clown cannot write a review to save himself

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

I agree with Bob, well said. Keep posting these interesting articles.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cougars are legit

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Anonymous  
Years ago

With the Slammers struggling of late, are the two contenders Wolves and Cougars? Hesitant to say Buccs still are until I see them gel with new import.

Why didn't Nichols play?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is anyone going to sign Lee Roberts? Seen him around at a few games..

And Liam Rush?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nichols hurt his hammy at training during the week

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Liam Rush has been seen around Lakeside talking to Olley.

Simon Petersen rumoured to have hooked it up.

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Squad 101  
Years ago

You all need to realise that the time to add players is literally up. Adding studs at this point is almost out of the question.

Players must play a minimum of 9 regular season games to be eligible for playoffs (for those that make it).

Even Cory Cooperwood may be trudging a fine line if he doesn't return soon.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It is for some teams, a number have played only 17 or 16 games though.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

> When will the SBL start realising that this clown cannot write a review to save himself

Good question. I stopped visiting the site as there is little content of value there anymore. Perhaps the SBL should look to advertise the position next season. There would be plenty of freelancers/media students that could put more effort and enthusiasm into promoting the league.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Good old Chris Pike and his "so and so did all he could" articles. He must have a template he just fills out with player stats straight from FIBALiveStats

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Has anyone seen Pike at a game? Don't think he even turned up for the grand finals last season!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Straight from Sunday's piece about Cougars/Buccs:

However, of concern for the Buccaneers was the lack of production of the bench with the absence of Cory Cooperwood. The Buccs didn't score a solitary point between their four players who hit the floor off the bench with them just combining for three points, two assists, one steal and two blocks.

Brilliant...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not forgetting:

Mat Wundenberg seven points to go with 12 rebounds, three rebounds.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hahahahahahahahaha that is absolutely brilliant stuff

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gary  
Years ago

Interesting stat.

Cougars seven game win streak has happened all on their home floor.

They are at the end of a stretch where they play 8 games straight at home, and 9 out of 10 at home.

Cant say I've ever seen that before.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What's worse - Pike's horrible writing or the fact no one at BWA bothers to read over his articles to check for errors?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Its just an unprofessional look, he clearly has no idea about what goes on at games, and just writing from a box score is pointless when most of us read them ourselves

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I can understand the limitations of only getting the info off the box scores, but Pike's lack of writing skill is ridiculous.

Case in point, there is no 'story' in any of his articles, they are just recaps. Focusing on the men's comp, angles for him could be, Joondalup extending their winning streak to 10, Cockburn's continued surprising season, the now-exciting race for eighth between the Lightning, Giants and Redbacks, East Perth's mini-revival and Eastern Suns all-time low score. Even better you could do the majority of it just looking at the box scores, score progressions and player stats, if you're too lazy to head to a game or give a coach a five minute phone call. Instead we are treated to "he did all he could with X points, Y Rebounds and Z assists" each and every week" lucky us.

He is also classic over-writer-1100 plus words to wrap up six Saturday night's game is just silly. You won't see more than 4-500 word articles in a newspaper, there is simply little need for them to be so long, especially with such little insight. His shocking use of repetition does not need any more light shined upon it.

Anyway, In summary, Pike=bad writer.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Painful, just painful. For someone that is the media guy for the Wildcats its just sad

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bring back Random

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agreed

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who are we liking for this week's MSBL games? Thought I'd give it a go.

Lakeside v Willetton: Lakeside are starting to click a little bit, but seem to not be able to get over the line when it counts in the fourth quarter. Willetton have been on struggle street of late, but i'm banking on a return to form for them. Tigers by 10.

Mandurah v East Perth: Mandurah were terrible against Goldfields last week, was Mully still hungover from the All-star weekend? 6 and 3. But the Magic still have a huge size advantage over the young Eagles side, who have been big improvers since Joe-Alan took over. Whoever controls the pace of the game here will win. I think Mandurah by 6.

Perry Lakes v Joondalup. Joondalup will win, by a lot. 28 to be precise. The Wolves have too much fire power, especially if Hobbs is still out for the Hawks. Purser will get his numbers but there's no way i see Nixy's boys getting over the line.

Geraldton v Perth. Hezza's boys dropping one to the rising Cougars last week will be all the motivation they should need in front of their rabid home fans. Perth are hit and miss, but one would think Gero's superior chemistry, even if Cooperwood doesn't play, would be too much for the Spiders. Gero by 17.

Goldfields v Slammers. Ty returning to his old stomping ground for this one, with a lot depending on whether Nichols will play. Given their top four spot seemingly locked up, you would think he would take a cautious approach heading into this one and rest him. Goldfields returned to form after the long weekend hiccup, but i still think Slammers will get up in a thriller. Bunno by 5.

Joondalup v Rockingham. The Wolves shouldn't have any problem backing up after their Friday game with a deep team meaning minutes can be spread out. Cooper Land will get his numbers but the X factor will be if Ryan Godfrey can continue his good form in an excellent pg battle between him and Trian. Still think Joondalup are too strong, and should win by 10.

Cockburn v Willetton. A tired Willetton team heads to the hill to face the surprise packet of the season. Cockburn's big three of Lane, Milam and Gav have been superb all season, but there wins usually come when guys like Van Lit, Davey or McIntyre step up with 10-15 points. Damo facing the home Cockburn faithful for the first time since making his move will be interesting, but Cockburn should win this by 8.

Stirling v Kalamunda. A must win game for Stirling, who have stunk it up since a good start to the season. Ellis returned last week, and hopefully for the Senators got the cobwebs out of the way, because if they lose this, they can kiss there finals hopes good bye. I still can't believe Kalamunda only scored 60 against Redbacks last weekend, they'll put up more points than that here, but still won't be able to match the Senators. Stirling by 15.

Kalamunda v Lakeside. 14 hour turnarounds are not easy, and you would guess the Suns would put all their eggs in Saturday night's basket. Lakeside should run the legs off the Suns in this one up in the sticks, with it having the potential to get real ugly, real fast for the men in orange. Lakeside by 24.

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Squad 101  
Years ago

Willetton defeat Lakeside by 8
East Perth defeat Mandurah by 3
Joondalup defeat Perry Lakes by 12
Perth defeat Geraldton by 4
Goldfields defeat Bunbury by 8
Joondalup defeat Rockingham by 15
Willetton defeat Cockburn by 9
Kalamunda defeat Stirling by 5
Lakeside defeat Kalamunda by 18

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TYRELL  
Years ago

Steve Trajecki who wrote the suns articles a few years back was decent- had one on one interviews and features- where's he at?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Stirling might be able to turn it around with Ellis and Throns back now.

Is Nic Cody available for Willeton? Someone said here he's hurt?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I read that Cody wont play this weekend

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rinse  
Years ago

Alright alright ALRIGHT! Lets get into it, firstly a review from last week:
Big movers Joondalup and Cockburn on 10 and 7 win streaks respectively
Slammers lose 3 of last 4
Stirling, Hawks, Suns keep losing

THIS WEEKS MATCHUPS!:
Lakeside v Willetton
Fun Fact: Other than their 2 imports, both teams have only 1 non-homegrown player. Jesse Dixon (Perry Lakes) and Damien Scott (Cougars).
Both teams suffered predictable losses last week, with the Tigers going down to a well-oiled Joondalup squad, and the Lightning losing to the boys from Hammy Hill. The Tigers have a make or break weekend here, with the potential to drop 2 and go to 7th, or win 2 and go back up to 4th so a strong showing against Lakeside would set them up well for their clash against Cockburn the next day. No Nic Cody (ankle) makes things tough, Corey Easley may step up into the starters role at #4, depleting the Tigers bench. Lucky for them, the Lightning have little bench power, so this game hinges on Swing vs Scott/Easley, Davis vs Thomas.
Lakeside have Perth and Giants lurking and I don't think they’ll hold on.
Willetton by 10pts.

Mandurah Magic vs East Perth
Fun Fact: Neither East Perth or Mandurah have finished higher than 4th in the MSBL competition since 1991.
Eagles rollllling along at the moment with their young stars Dech(18.8ppg and 8.8rpg) and Vague (18.8ppg and 9.9rpg) both coming along. Heard Dech is off to college, not sure when, but will be a loss if its during the season. Magic took a hit against Goldfields last week, by a lot. I think this week will see the Magic bigs proving too much for the Eagles SG’s and SF’s. Vague simply hasn’t 'filled out’ yet,
Magic by 12pts.

Perry Lakes Hawks @ Joondalup Wolves
Fun Fact: Last year these two teams both missed out on playoffs, 9th and 10th. Joondalup have already passed their W tally from last year 2 weeks ago, whereas Perry Lakes are 3 losses away from equalling theirs, still with 10 games remaining.
The facts speak for themselves, and shows you what a solid off-season of recruiting and coaching change can do for you. Joondalup on a 10 game win streak and why stop there? Perry Lakes to make it 4 games lost on the trot.
Wolves by 18pts.

Buccs v Redbacks
FUN FACT: Ray Turner has only had 1 game in single digit scoring this season. It came against the Geraldton Buccaneers in Round 2.
Redbacks will travel up to Geraldton in an interesting contest. Both Marshall and Turner were firing on all cylinders v Kalamunda, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Coach Lackovic decides to rest his star duo in case they get Deep Vein Thrombosis on the drive up there...
Rumour has is Cooperwood will be back from Israel (not Greece) in time for the game.
You know know, but Buccs by 4pts.

Giants v Slammers
Fun Fact: in 2010, 2011 and 2012 the Slammers had a combined season record of 4-74. That isn’t a typo, 4 wins, 74 losses.
Slammers slowly sinking set sights on Giants sitting seven spots south.
3 v 10, and could well be a problem for the Slammers as Cockburn loom at the 3rd spot. But the Slammers should definitely be proud of their efforts so far and when you see that above stat. Giants have proven to be tougher at home, and I’m half inclined to call the upset here.
Slammers , 5 pts.

Cougars v Tigers
Fun Fact: in 2014 the Cougars and Tigers sat at 10th and 11th. They’re still holding hands up the ladder, now 4th and 5th.
2 of only 5 teams with a +ve pt%, this is probably Match of the Round for me. Result will hugely depend on the night before if the Tigers can put away the Lightning early enough. A part of me also thinks Damien Scott is starting to find some form and he is due for a big 30+ game, still probably feels comfortable at Wally Hagan.
Unfortunately no Nic Cody is probably tipping the scales toward Cockburn.
Give them the win, 15pts.

Senators vs Suns
Fun FACT: combine their losing streaks and you have 15 games where neither team has won.
Time for one of them to taste the glory!
Stirling INS: ELLIS, ILIADAS, THRONS
OUTS: WILD. this is why Stirling will take home the W. 12 pts.

Joondalup v Flames
FUN FACT: Kevin Davis is the championship for this team. Want to beat the Wolves? Stop Davis. Davis has only had 2 games this season where he has had < 10 points, vs Buccs and vs Cougars. Wolves lost both games. Furthermore, he has had only 3 games with 5 or more fouls, 6 vs Buccs, 5 vs Cougars (the third game was vs Suns but the game was well over with a 22/15 effort).
Also, Kevin Davis is averaging the lowest minutes per game of all imports.
If the flames can contain Davis, they WILL win this game. I had the pleasure of watching him last week, but he literally just comes on when needed. The Wolves ran a number of baseline alley-oop plays for him, but what put away the Tigers was the shooting of Salinas and Iliadis. Wolves by 10pts.

Eastern Suns vs Lightning:
FUN FACT: These two teams are the only in the SBL with weather related names.
Battle of the Sunday preferences as both teams play their second game for the weeks, but Lakeside with the day break on Sat. Lakeside should snag this one quite easily, Prue/Philp will be a good rebounding contest on paper, but Swing will be too much for Anthony. Lakeside by 14pts.

Questions for this week!:
Where would you see the Suns if there starting lineup consisted of Philip, Anthony, Timms, Questral?

Where would you see the Cougars if their lineup consisted of Chan, Field, Milam, Lane, Scott?

Who would win these matchups?
Wolves (1) v Lakeside (8)
Buccs (2) v Magic (7)
Slammers (3) v Flames (6)
Cougars (4) v Tigers (5)
For me, 1v8 and 2v7 is wrapped up, but man, 3-6 could all get through.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Love your work rinse and i love the questions to spark some debate.

one other guy you missed from the potential suns starting lineup was Ben Smith. I think the lineup of Questel, Smith, Anthony, Timms and Philip would be tough. Sadly i dont see any of Questel, Smith or Timms ever going back.

I think Cougars are better off without Chan and Scott. They play a much better brand of basketball and completely selfless. The pickup of Pesava was underrated. Macintyre is starting to play some good ball again and Davey looks ageless.

Wolves over lakeside in 2
Buccs over magic in 2
Slammers over flames in 3
Cougars over tigers in 3

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rinse,
Great preview as usaul, would love to hear your feedback on who you think the current front runners for the awards would be as of round 14 Mvp,coy,mip,Roy

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rinse  
Years ago

MVP
1. Tre Nichols will win based on team wins. He top scores, and he has on court flare that would attract attention.
2. IMO Ray Turner is the most valuable player in the league, but he'll come second because of the team’s position. It’s likely he has polled 3 votes in most Redbacks wins (Brown taking 2 games maybe) and 2 votes where they have lost. I mean 50 pt effort vs Cockburn and 58 pts vs Tigers AND 30pt/30rb vs Stirling all should attract at least 2 votes, maybe 3 if the refs were feeling nice.
Kevin Davis lacks minutes and the Wolves boys share votes as do the Buccs.

COY
I think Ettridge will get it. Again, I would prefer to see someone else get it, Cockburn’s coach perhaps for what they’ve done in their off season and on court. But if Joondalup continue to win, it’ll be tough denying the Wolves coach the silverware.

MIP
Rhys Vague
Lets just put some names up there, Chan, Martin, Cody, Vague.
Rhys Vague has improved his game +15.4ppg, +7.2 rpg and +1.2 apg. While Chan (+11.1ppg, +1.4rpg and +2.7apg) and Martin (+8.9ppg, +2.5rpg and +2.2apg) have both done well this season, it’s a no brainer for me.

ROY
I'm not sure as I don’t really know what the selection criteria is. Referees I WOULDN’T like to see receive the award: Brett Campbell, Mark Grist, the female (someone DiConza who struggles to keep control of a game)
Wouldn’t mind David Bull or Paul Throns (simply because he looks like Steve Carrell)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Paul Throns would have to be even further below Campbell, Grist, Diconza (Nicole). He is just not good and had no communication skills. Katie Roberts does a great job each week

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Give referee of the year to Clayton purely because he still wears those power bracelets with the silly magnets in them

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Katie Roberts? Oh god no, she's on a power trip all game. Throns is just a muppet, no feel for the game in any facet.

Grist, Hughes (mini-grist), Bird should all get demoted to u14's to learn how to communicate properly.

I'd take Campbell over all of them. He is consistently the same, a pain to talk to. So don't complain every call, you know it won't work. Just play the game and he will ref it consistently all the way through.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Hahaha wolves destroyed by perry lakes. That's a tad... Hawkward

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rinse  
Years ago

These damn teams making me look like a fool. I don't know anymore with this league.

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josh garlepp  
Years ago

Go Horks

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Dh  
Years ago

Wow Hawks beat Wolves Lakeside win over Tigers Macic scrape through over Eagles Lucky this is not a tipping Comp Final Eight will be very interesting Tigers and Magic don't have the form of early in the season, Why what has changed?

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Fathill  
Years ago

Tigers without Nic Cody, but they couldn't contain a run from Swing and Jackson in the third, same as Iliadis and Salinas last week. No perimeter defenders.
Plus I don't know what Alan Black is doing letting Kyle armor just hog the ball at the clear frustration from.his team mates. Sure he gets assists, but there is not ball movement because he just holds it.

Magic without Jarrad Jackson, not sure what happened there, and no excuses for the Wolves. Hobbs didn't play great but they still got trounced.

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Nix 85  
Years ago

hawkies for premiers lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hey Fathill, if Hobbs wasn't great, what is great? Just looked at his stats. 32 etc looked alright to me.

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Nix 85  
Years ago

11/29 and scores 12 in the last 3 mins against the D league
Hobbs for MVPLOL

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tigers in trouble

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rinse  
Years ago

Redbacks release Marshal Brown.

Sign 6'9 Raphael Putney.

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Willetton are having some terrible 3rd quarters. Poor basketball being played by them atm.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Putney couldnt hit water from a boat tonight. Interesting move by the Redbacks releasing Brown.

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Nix 85  
Years ago

Looks like the Wolfpack got back on track real quick.
Slammers next week...GOTW!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers are struggling hard, Wolfpack should beat them by 20 at Joondalup.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What has happened to the slammers?

Tigers also struggling losing their last 3 by big margins

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tigers taking bad shots on offense, Armour turning the ball over too much and being too selfish.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Went to the tigers lakeside game friday. Tigers tried to double Swing every time he touched it, he just kicked it to the rolling big and they couldn't recover quick enough without Cody at the 4... Lakeside bigs had like 60 points combined

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would not put it past Suns upsetting the Tigers this weekend if Cody isnt back in the lineup.

They were up the entire game against stirling (with Ellis and Throns back in the lineup) and lost in the last minute.
Suns also pushed Lakeside all the way on Sunday.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^^Seva is that you ?
thought I said no more talking up our chances on here.
Love john

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any thoughts on the weekends games?

Redbacks signing a new import?

Wanneroo going down by 30 to hawks? Where was Matacz?

Bunbury are sliding, as are Willo.

Who will finish second cougars or buccs?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not sure about the Redbacks signing, too little too late?? Another Lackovic brain fade??

Giants making a big push, if they make the 8 the top teams would be wanting to avoid them in the first round.

I dont think the Wolves would be too worried about that loss.

Willo are in dire straits at the moment, terrible FG%, selfish offense.

Could this just be a short slump for the Slammers? They could drop out of the top 4 if they dont get it together, plus they have Joondalup this weekend.

Cougars should be top 4 if they continue their form, I dont think they will go higher than 3 though. A huge double header for them this weekend with Flames/Giants. If they can win both they will be looking good.

Mandurah has a tough two weeks ahead of them, Gero and Joondalup. They could find their push for top 4 over by next weekend

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Heard Wundenburg and Lackovic got up close and personal on Saturday night.

Are Willo now 1-7 in the MC era?

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rinse  
Years ago

Willetton have only won 2 of their last 9 games, with victories against an average Hawks outfit (not the week just gone) and a terrible Stirling team. They have also lost 7 of 9 second halves in that span.
The Tigers start strong, and in the begin on the season they were getting out to 20 pts leads at the half but lately, their 2-3 pt leads at the main break haven't been enough to account for their falling away in the later stages of the game.

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rinse  
Years ago

Just to add another stat:
Tigers shooting 16/54: 29.6% in their last 3 fourth quarters

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Doesn't surprise with Lackovic, he never shuts up on the sidelines.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Biggest whinger in the league

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lako wishes he could stil be out there playing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

how much money do redbacks have anyway?

paying out Brown for rest of season and bringing in new import for 9 games would have cost a fair bit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Especially when I doubt they will make finals. More money than sense

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Surely the Redbacks will consider a new coach at seasons end? They usually have a pretty decent team on paper but can't quite get it together with him as coach.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They need a coach who can run an offense against zone D, Lacko still hasnt worked that one out yet...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seems the Redbacks made one great move (Turner) and a few bad ones (Brown, Smith, All-Star fiasco), all via the same guy.

I don't think SBL contracts need to be paid out.

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Contract man  
Years ago

If the terms he agreed on were that he would be paid out or that his contract was guarenteed in some way then it would need to be paid out. Just like some guys ask for playoff bonuses and or being paid for 3 games in playoffs instead of 2 due to the fact if your getting paid per game you might just want some extra funds so why not make all series go 3 games. It all depends on the individually worked out details. Standard SBL contract has nothing in it saying he would get paid out.

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Callisto94  
Years ago

Any updates on Nichols? Heard rumours of NBL talks. That would be exciting! I would definitely pay for his jersey!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nicholls is nowhere near good enough for NBL

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He is pretty damn close. He's obviously to short for the NBL. But skill wise he is right there.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If Nichols is there skill wise but not size wise then is Jordan Swing an NBL level pickup?

Jordan is 6'5, long and athletic and as skilled, if not more skilled than Nichols.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nichols>Delly

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You guys are underestimating the massive step up from SBL to NBL. Nichols averaged under 5ppg in 13 mins a game shooting 33% as a senior at college in a team that won less than half their games, nowhere near worth an import spot at NBL level.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

I've seen Swing just once but I don't think he is NBL level. Not really quick enough and not sure if he has enough commitment to D.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

OK here is something off topic.

Top 5 imports from 2015 vs Top 5 imports from 2014.

Who would be in each team?
Which team would win?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Name the teams ??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

My picks

2015 team - Nichols, Swing, Voelkel, K.Davis, Turner

2014 team - Tinsley, McDowell, Okoye, Roberts, C.Land

The PG matchup would be a lot of fun to watch as would the battle of Swing v McDowell.

For me Okoye and Roberts would edge out Voelkel and Davis. Turner would win the matchup over Land.

Im still finding this very difficult to pick but I would have to go with the 2014 team as they are probably a little bigger and stronger across positions 1-4 and a bit more versatility and outside firepower with their bigs.

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Oberon62  
Years ago

Just an opinion..I don't personally think his (Nichols) size matters or should matter, the skill set and athleticism is obviously there. The young man is an absolute GUN! He's got my vote!

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Swing: 4ppg in D-League, 30ppg in SBL. That would equal about 10-12ppg in NBL, defs not worth an import spot

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Harry Stylz  
Years ago

None of these imports other than maybe Turner have a realistic shot at NBL.
They end up at Wildcats training sessions as mere training fodder & that's it.
That's not a knock on them, but they aren't there for a trial or assessment.
Turner has been on the radar since his successful QBL season last season & has been generating interest with his numbers this year by a small handful of teams.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Turner is too small for NBL to play the 5. And he can't shoot to play the 4

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Turner has had at least 3 NBL teams inquire about him and NZ sent someone to watch him play.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It would be great if an SBL player made the NBL and not just a DP spot or play a game here or there.

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meggsie  
Years ago

nz coach dean vickerman come to watch turner play the weekend they played the wolves and the all-star game, turner would be just as tough with better players around him (NBL).yeah it would be good to see a quality sbl player playing other than a d-spot. not seeing too many cj brutons,martin cattalinis,ben peppers or james harveys coming out of the this league.

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I think the list of imports is a very high quality. Making a call on whether they would make it in NBL is impossible until they get an opportunity. There are many examples of players that have been successful, or otherwise, at Nba/d league/ Nbl/sbl and it largely is based on getting an opportunity and fitting into what team needs.
Take Redhage as example. Came across as seabl player after average college career in Arizona. Killed it at seabl and got gig with nz breakers only to get cut in less than season. Then finally lands in Perth and wins something like 6 club mvp awards and will end up being one of best imports ever for wildcats.
Then look at lisch, decent college career but not outstanding. Gets to wildcats and had everybody calling for him to be cut in first half dozen games. Bevo has confidence in him and he ends up being grand final mvp.
Then at sbl level is the import from Kalgoorlie a couple seasons ago called Steve weingarten who was cut part way into sbl season. He went on to play in Nba d league and have some much better numbers than most sbl imports that have played in d league.
In my opinion, some of the better imports in sbl would do well if put in the right situation in Nbl. As example, if Quinn McDowell was with wildcats this year u have starters Martin/heal/McDowell/Redhage/knight
Quinn is one of best shooters at any level and at 6'5" and strong could guard 3 spot in Nbl. Have him on perimeter with Martin and beal finding him. If you get him 12 good looks a game he could get you 15ppg.
It gets more difficult for a guy like turner who starts to see bigger players at Nbl and with limited range he would find it hard...
Tinsley and swing would be ok in the right situation as well...

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rinse  
Years ago

Out of action this week for a write up. Looks like y'all got the discussion covered anyways!

For my input, give Johnny Bo 200 John Dickson a call up to the Wildcats :P

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lee Roberts is another great example. Had a tryout with Wollongong in 2012 and was not picked up. Apparently told he could rebound better? Goes and plays in the second league in Argentina, leads his team to the championship and a promotion to the top league. This year Lee was an All Star in the top league in Argentina, something like second in rebounding and sixth in scoring and on a playoff level team. I'm sure if given the right opportunity in the NBL would also be a successful player.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Round 15 - a really close round ahead, a lot of games could go either way.

Lightning v Senators - could be a close game depending on which Lightning team shows up but they should get the W

Flames v Cougars - another great matchup, Cougars depth should make the difference

Buccs v Magic - Buccs should get this one, Mandurah dont have enough on D to contain the Buccs scorers

Senators v Giants - Giants to continue their winning ways

Wolves v Slammers - GOTW. Home court advantage to make the difference, Wolves to get the W.

Eagles v Redbacks - Who will stop Turner? Spiders to win

Hawks v Lightning - Lightning to get this one

Tigers v Suns - who knows here??? Whichever team shoots better will win, should be the Tigers but you never know!

Cougars v Giants - Cougars should get this on their home floor, both teams have the double header but Cockburn has an extra day break

Suns v Hawks - Once again, could go either way. Hawks, only just...

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Nix 85  
Years ago

What was the outcome of the Lacko v Wunders incident??
Let me guess, no action taken as per usual against certain individuals in the SBL. Great promotion.

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From memory the Willetton v buccs game last year had a bit of an incident at the end with both clubs getting a suspended penalty...
These things happen in a high intensity, pressure environment...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What actually happened?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

words were exchanged between coaches and players from both teams during handshaking. not nice from what i heard. Buccs were obviously pissed losing to a subpar team at home. one willo kid got spat on from the crowd. willo escorted out by security due to hostile environment

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Shockingly the camera didn't catch any of the altercations. It was only moved to record the action after everything settled down.

Some kind Gero "fan" told Wagner to "sleep c&#t" after he got hit by a Wundenberg back pick, then some other gracious "fans" wanted to fight everyones favourite SBL 'expert" Cecins.

I'll do a C.Mansfield with a Thumbs DOWN to the Gero crowd and video person.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So what happened between wundenburg and lako then?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gero crowd is disgusting. I've only been up there once but it was enough for me. The language coming from children and women on the sidelines was pretty poor, but the league will never do anything about it so long as they pull 850+ and bring in the $$$

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There isn't much the league can do about it. Unless they enforce clubs to employ security (some already do, most don't) that actively remove spectators from games for doing things like that. Just won't happen and shouldn't.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Massive weekend for Giants and Lightning, both playing senators. Both hoping to still catch Willo and Flames.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

also a massive weekend for willo on a 3 game slide and playing a suns team who were 1 possession away from beating Stirling and were up for a large portion of the game against Lightning.

Is Cody back?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes Cody will be playing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Will Alan be strutting the sidelines?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes he will be back after being away for last game for a wedding

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willo guy  
Years ago

Willo obviously has too many leaks I mean the misinformation is amazing lol.

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Strong Hold  
Years ago

There is a lot of rinsing going on at Willetton and not much winning

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Rabbit 98  
Years ago

Rinsing?

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Hawks the dark horse in the bottom 8. wolves last week, now lightning!

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Lightning were pathetic. I want my $10.00 back. The crap they just threw up wasn't worth $1.00. Pity the door lady left early, but not surprised.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lakeside were cringeworthy

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Rabbit 98  
Years ago

Supporters through thick and thin eh guys.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adam Forde back screaming/coaching last night.

Lackovic with some head scratching decisions again.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

I'm not a Lakeside supporter, just a basketball supporter.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lakeside supporter, lakeside were a joke last night. Shot 20% or even lower

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Hobbs for MVP

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Monday Dech  
Years ago

Whats with the Hawks just spanking teams of late? whats changed?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

so to adress the buccs vs redbacks situation. Cecins ran courtside and started verbally abusing Wundenberg in which fans began to turn on Cecins. Rightfully so as Wundenberg did nothing illegal as it was a clean back screen.

The fact the redbacks team didnt call out a back screen should be ashamed of themselves as it cost Wagner a nasty headache i am sure.

The buccs fans are loud and obnoxious of course, its part of being a spectator, if the guys on court cannot handle some jawing off and some kind hearted fun then they should go play a computer game without a headset or volume. The fact we even discuss this is pathetic.

The crowd is there to support their team, not the opposite team. And unless something racially or directly threatening to a player then who cares. Some foul language is not a cause for removal. Christ there would be 4 spectators left at a football game then.

People need to go to bunnings and get a bag of cement and harden up i say. The incident last year with Willo was due to how arrogant and rude the good old willo import was. Apparently the fact he was flipping off the crowd and talking shit to them was ok but a fan returns the favour its world war 2.

Its not the buccs or kals fault that they get more fans in the seats. Good on them i say and keep up the hostile environment. Not one player in the league would be upset about their behaviour as its such a fun place to play and try and hush the crowd.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So you are saying Cecins in some way as a rep of the league has brought the game into disrepute? If he has in fact done what you have said surely he would be reprimanded?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You'll find Cecins was in his seat and stood up after a Gero Fan abused Wagner. Telling a downed player to "sleep c$@#" is going too far.

Having a group of other fans threaten to bash him outside is also going too far.

Methinks that anon is from Gero

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rinse  
Years ago

Perry Lakes in their first 15 games:
F: 90.25 A: 99 -8.75

Perry Lakes in their last 3 games:
F:103 A: 65. +38

Looks like their defense has turned up, injured players coming back to the lineup too.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

the bloke from Gero obviously wasnt anywhere near the area where the willo incident took place last year. It had nothing to do with the Willo import.

Bennie Lewis, in frustration said a few words to Coach Foster along the lines of being 'gifted the win by the refs' instead of just congratulating him. Foster took a disliking to what Lewis said and had a few words of his own to say. Lewis's teammates then jumped to his aide as did their assistant coach. There was some push and shove and a few pleasentries exchanged but it all ended with both teams in the huddle giving 3 cheers.

Benny apologised in his post game speech for his actions which took a lot of maturity.

I dont think the players would complain about a hostile environment as long as things dont cross the line. ie where the fans above the Willo bench who were spitting on and throwing stuff at Willo players during this incident.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Funny how M.Heron apologized to people from Perth regarding the fan behaviour. He obviously wasn't happy with it.

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Harry Stylz  
Years ago

Interesting week of basketball.
6 weeks out from the business end of the season & the top 4 is all but solidified. Cant see anyone removing Joondalup, Geraldton, Cockburn or Bunbury.
A lot of movement could happen between 5-9 & possibly 10 with Perry Lakes hitting a recent purple patch.
Perth, Stirling, East Perth & Suns can pretty much hang up the boots for 2015.

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Harry Stylz  
Years ago

Interesting week of basketball.
6 weeks out from the business end of the season & the top 4 is all but solidified. Cant see anyone removing Joondalup, Geraldton, Cockburn or Bunbury.
A lot of movement could happen between 5-9 & possibly 10 with Perry Lakes hitting a recent purple patch.
Perth, Stirling, East Perth & Suns can pretty much hang up the boots for 2015.

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Kyle Armour with some great 3pt shooting on the weekend.

Too many "hangs" with Mark Cain and Devon Terrell.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

All the stats from the weekend have disappeared and players game stats from throughout the year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

All player stats from Match Centre are missing in domestic, representative and semi- professional.

FSP are investigating

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Race for MVP, who gets your vote?

Turner
Swing
Lewis
Nichols

Other?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Add Field to that list, all are potential winners, could be the closest race in years

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bennie Lewis
Gavin Field
Kevin Davis
Tre Nichols
Ray Turner

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Bennie Lewis is a surprisingly possible MVP candidate. Elevated his play & particularly scoring. Gero haven't dropped off either.
Numbers wise you simply cannot go past Ray Turner. The Redbacks poor year may hinder his chances(technically it shouldn't).
Team & stats wise its hard to deny Gavin Field right now.
Its sickening to think the Wildcats wont give him a look in as an actual contracted player.

The rest while honourable are pretenders in the scheme of things.

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TYRELL  
Years ago

You ^^^ forget Jay Bowie and Julius Holmen from Giants!

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

No I didn't. You've got a better chance of seeing Dan Hunt come out of retirement & suiting up for the Suns.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Clive, I concur

Field is 100% NBL quality and it is crazy he isnt in the league. Sure he could put on a few kg's but he can flat out play.

Great to see Bevo will be back on the sidelines in the NBL, sad to see him leave Perth though. Maybe he can take Bobby with him?

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TYRELL  
Years ago

wait and see then!

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Jay (Bowie) and Jacob (Holmen) would have both attracted plenty of votes over the past 12 games, during the Giants' 9-3 run.

However both have probably had the same amount of 'best-on-ground' games, so they would be taking votes off each other. Mathiang Muo has also had a couple of ripper games in that time.

That alone would likely take them out of MVP contention.

Historically the SBL MVP has usually come from a team that wins half to two-thirds of their games, and has a dominant player surrounded by a bunch of 'good' players, or role players.

You tend to find that the MVP won't come from the top few teams because those teams usually have more than one dominant player, and they take votes off each other.

If you looked at it in a team-by-team sense:

Wolves - Nobody
Salinas, Iliadis, Huntington and Davis all taking votes off each other.

Buccs - Lewis is a good chance.
Cook has been more of a role player this year. Wundenberg usually doesn't attract many votes while Thomas and Ralph are 'down' statistically from previous years.

Slammers - Nobody.
Nichols is one of the best imports in the league this year, but too many votes would be going to his other three countrymen (Weeden, Harrelson, Voelkel).

Cougars - Field a strong chance.
Have won two-thirds of their games and really only three guys attracting the big votes. Lane has been a bit hold and cold while Milam has been serviceable. That leaves Field who has usually been among their best two players each week.

Magic - Nobody
Mullenax is down on previous years. Hafford and Smith would get votes but not enough to challenge for MVP.

Flames - Cooper Land a good chance.
Despite carrying an injury, he seems to get big numbers each week and would have been the Flames best player in at least three-quarters of their games.

Tigers - Nobody
There has hasn't been anyone consistently standing up for the Tigers each week. Not enough to attract the big votes needed for MVP. Armour, Scott and Cody have had their moments but that's all.

Lightning - Swing is a chance
My suspicion is that Swing has received (by far) the most votes by a Lightning player. As they are under .500, my question is whether they have won enough games for him to get enough votes.

Giants - Nobody
Giants players would have received plenty of votes over their past 12 games, but they would have been shared between Bowie (40% of the votes I reckon), Holmen (40%) and Muo (15%). That's not enough to win the first ever SBL MVP by a Giants player.

Redbacks - Turner a roughy
Turner is a chance simply due to the fact that most Redbacks players have been playing below par (compared to previous years). I question though whether an MVP can come from a team that is currently 6-13.

Hawks - Nobody
Bryton Hobbs' situation is similar to the Redbacks' Turner. I just don't think he has been as dominant as Turner to get a look-in.

Senators, Eagles, Suns - Nobody

So my pick is that the MVP will come from Bennie Lewis, Gavin Field or Cooper Land, with Jordan Swing and Ray Turner outside chances.


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rinse  
Years ago

Just FYI, Ray Turner in a few losses:

32/30 v stirling *
31/19 v magic
34/18 v wolves
58/26 v tigers *
39/19 v Suns *
50/12 v Cougars *
39/20 v flames

* are at LEAST 2 vote games

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Field should get a good look for MVP. Deserving. other than him it's a tough one to pick.

Most improved will be interesting. Probably two front runners at the moment. Odd award it usually goes to someone who had a clear minutes jump.

Seva Chan:
2014 stats: Not on website
2015 stats: 16.4p, 3.3r, 5.4a
Best game/s: 31 p, 3r, 3a, 3st
21p, 4r, 7a, 3 st

Rhys Vague:
2014 stats: Not one website, but would have been low due to minutes
2015 stats: 17.9p, 10.3r, 1.8a
Best game/s: 24p, 10r, 6a
32p, 16r, 3a, 2 bl

Corey Martin
2014 stats: 2.8p, 2.1r, 1.6a
2015 stats: 9.9p, 4.3r, 3.5a
Best game/s: 25p, 5r, 3a
13p, 8r, 7a, 4 bl

Tom Parkinson
2014 stats: 4.5p, 2.9r, 0.3a
2015 stats: 12.7p, 6r, 1a
Best game/s: 33p, 8r, 4a, 2st, 4bl
32p, 7r, 2a

Ben Ironmonger: (comes off the bench)
2014 stats: 4.8p, 1.6r, 1.8a
2015: 9.2p, 3r, 2.6
Best game/s: 17p, 7r, 3a
16p, 3r, 5a

If you go by numbers alone probably goes to Vague.. But impact on team I would lean towards Chan. Chan has played every game.

I would like to include Ryan Smith from hawks but I am not sure of the rules when he wasn't in the league last year. Honorable mentions to Ryan Woodbury from Senators and Jaarod Holmes from Suns.

Anyone else?

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Dh  
Years ago

3 out of 5 from Cockburn ??? Cougars doing well but, what if these players had stayed.They would have been very strong Particularly with Chan

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who is the 3rd from Cockburn?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Holmes

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Chan has shown noticeable improvement & if he can cut his turnovers down & up his assists/floor vision in the future, he has the potential to be a handy floor general.
Holmes IMO is grossly over rated. Under sized for a block player. Inability to handle the ball on a wing.
Useful role player off the bench at best. If he was still at Cockburn he wouldn't even be getting a game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agree with Clive. Holmes is very overrated, only viewed as a decent player in a poor team. All 3 would struggle for minutes in the current Cockburn lineup

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Holmes is also one of the worst defenders in the entire SBL. Would struggle to defend a lollypop lady from driving to the basket.

Chan's impact on the team? They are dead last on 2 wins.

Its incredible that both these guys get paid to play.

I agree with Martin, Parkinson, Vague and Ironmonger being in this list. Could Sunday Dech also be in contention? He is averaging something like 18ppg and 8rb for a SG.

Also maybe someone like Jarrad Jackson who is also having a solid year starting for a playoff team after being a backup bench player last year?

Ash Litterick from Stirling has also really come along but maybe not as talked about as some of these other guys.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I wrote the initial list, I meant to include JJ. Sorry mate. He definitely has earnt a mention.

Sunday has played well, he won it last year didn't he?

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meggsie  
Years ago

MEN

COTY- ETTRIDGE
MVP - NICHOLS
MIP - SUNDAY DECH ( gun )you try playing 4 positions on the floor on any given night.
MOST OVER-RATED -REMMERSWALL AND WAGNER.


WOMEN

COTY- PETRICK
MVP - WHITCOMB
MIP - ASH GRANT
MOST OVER RATED - AMOS AND FIELDING.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do you guys know what your talking about???^^^^
Sunday won it last year and hasnt improved anywhere near as much this year

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Agreed some of these comments appear to have been made after puffing on a crack pipe.

- Dech won MIP last year.
- Jackson wasn't a back up bench player last year. He started all season. He has been solid, probably not mind-boggling MIP winning however.
- Remmers & Wagner over rated? Clearly you don't go to many games. Despite Remmers abnormal conditioning he has proven time & time again that he can play. He's put up the numbers & forged an impressive career against the odds some would say. He deserves peoples respect if anything.
Wagner has been the best PG in the league (imports included) for the best part of almost 10 years.
- If you are going to pick an MIP, numbers based it probably has to be Vague. Don't rate him, but numbers improvement based on last year have been the most substantial. Team success bares no weight in MIP consideration if you ask me.


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Meggsie clearly has no idea

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Figured for shits and giggles we would look at each position. Have taken stats, minutes played and team standings in to account on all of these. They are not ranked in any way, but i figured we could start discussions and then after that do the next position and work our way upwards to the Center position. I have selected what is considered the better PGs in the league and hopefully no one is missed and if so I shall give you one from the get go.

TRE NICHOLLS IS NOT the pg, he plays the two spot for bunbury and works off the wing, so lets get that out of the way as he is not a pg but a undersized SG and possibly the leagues MVP. SO no malice towards his skill.

Kyle Armour (Tied 6th position)
741 Mins
39 mpg
16.7 ppg
4.5 rpg
6.2 apg
2.8 tpg
39.1% FG
33.6 % 3PT
80.2 % FT

Jarrod Jackson (5th position)
557 Mins
34 mpg
11 ppg
3.5 rpg
5.1 apg
2.1 tpg
44% FG
28.3% 3PT
58.3% FT

Daniel Thomas (tied 1st position)
606 mins
30 mpg
10.8 ppg
2.8 rpg
4.7 apg
2.5 tpg
44.7% FG
40.8% 3PT
82.7% FT

Joel Wagner (11th Position)
732 mins
39 mpg
10.7 ppg
5.0 rpg
7.5 apg
3.0 tpg
38.7% FG
22.9% 3PT
66.7% FT

Taylor Land (Tied 6th Position)
698 mins
37 mpg
13.6 ppg
7 rpg
7.8 apg
3.5 tpg
47% FG
21.1% 3PT
65.3% FT

Seva Chan (14th-Last Position)
830 mins
40 mpg
16.4 ppg
3.3 rpg
5.4 apg
4.8 tpg
39.9% FG
33.0% 3PT
72.7% FT


Take a look through and some rather interesting stats for all players in this position. Remember once again Tre Nicholls is not playing PG for his team. Mostly works off the wings in the offence.

Hopefully someone an do the SG spot after this at some point.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kinda disagree with you on Nichols. I would say Ty plays the SG position. Nichols does majority of the creation and offense running, no matter where on the floor he does it though.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He runs down the wing and the offense is set up by others. That is not PG for me. Yes he makes moves to the basket etc etc, so do wing players which is where he is situated 90% of the time.

He very rarely walks or runs the ball up the court and decides the offence to be run etc etc. surprisingly this does take a skill and a PG mind to be able to know what the best thing to run is. Nicholls doesn't have to do this on Bunbury as others are doing it. The only reason why i didn't include him that's all.

By all means if u feel the need to include him then do so and we can all add him to that list. But PG and other positions are no longer just based on height anymore.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jordan Swing plays PG for Lightning. Although he is versatile and spends some time at the wing, 95% of his time as at point in his current role.

Jordan Swing (tied 8th position)
840 mins
42 MPG
28.5 PPG
8.5 RPG
5.2 APG
4.0 TPG
1.1 BPG
1.9 SPG
46.3% FG
38.5% 3pt
85.3% FT

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Is it just me or are the large majority of teams & players this year terrible at free throws?
Does nobody practice them anymore?

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Thursday Dech  
Years ago

Positions on the court were created so people that don't understand basketball could understand it. Position is irrelevant, but seem to be appropriate for this forum.

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Dwayne Johnson  
Years ago

Wait, what? The Buccs are tied for first?? thought they were 1 game behind? Maths definitely is a second language here #rockfocus

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Positions on the court were not created for people who don't understand basketball and are completely relevant to all who play and appreciate the game.
Whilst positions evolve over time and how they are used changes, their relevance will and always will be for those who play the game, coach it, ref it and watch it.

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meggsie  
Years ago

do you mean like a power guard or a point forward. hold on I will just have another puff on my pipe lads. interesting to see wagners numbers !!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

10.7 PPG, 7.5 APG, 5.0 RPG this year. Averages 15 PPG over his career. Wagner overrated? no. You incorrect? Yes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wagner is not over rated. He is one of the best PG's to play in our league, period.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can Lakeside hang onto 8th?

Will Giants continue their winning ways and have a win in the derby on their home floor?

Can the Hawks continue to knock off teams above them by near on 40 points each game? Slammers are on a slide and Hawks on a tear, but this one is a tough road game being played at Eaton on Friday night.

Can Cougars solidify top 4 by beating Slammers on their home floor? Oh how wrong we all were about these Cougars!

Magic arent safe yet. Wolves and Senators this weekend and struggling for form. Can they steady?

Tigers also not safe. Redbacks will be desperate for a win. A loss for them has to wipe them out completely from playoff contention?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Two losses for Redbacks will Putney them out of playoff contention

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Putney Mary's

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Dwayne Johnson  
Years ago

In what way have "we all" got it wrong?
The longest streak of home games nearly in the history of the SBL.
Cougars have 2 quality imports - put them at Stirling or Kalamunda?
4 championship vets?
And arguably the best Aussie and MVP candidate who has also won a championship.
Should we be saying its championship or bust?
7 losses for a Championship favourite?
#rockfocus

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We got it wrong because every single person wrote their name at the very bottom of the ladder. Don't pretend you didn't either...

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Dwayne Johnson  
Years ago

Incorrect
At the bottom of everything I write...

#rockfocus

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers about to be smashed tonight by Cockburn

No Worthington, Edwards or Keller.

3 kids on a 10 man team

Bout to get worked

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dwayne Johnson needs to go back to WWE forums where he would make more sense

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Najee lane just did a shut down job on trey nicholls keeping him to 5 points and fouling him out in only 20 mins.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ugly, ugly game at Curtin last night.

Kyle has been working on his bows, he threw more of them than passes or shots, pretty cheap.

Tigers don't like passing to Davis for some reason.

son of Black is a massive flopper too, someone feed that child some food.

Perth still so predictable on O, Putney is loooooong though.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cougars over Slammers.

Slammers missing 3 bigs in worthington edwards and keller, and played the night before.

Cougars missing Peseva.

Milam and Nichols in foul trouble most of the game.

Cougars always in control.

Quality outside shooting from Harrelson and Hitchcock kept them closer then it really was.

Slammers have the split on the cougars by +5.

Slammers more likely to get third as cougars yet to travel to joondalup and geraldton.

Meaning the cougars will have to go through joondalup to get to the grand final.

Also looking at possible match up with the Giants who i think are now favourite to get 5th. that will not be easy.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Marshall Brown got screwed over, Putney is weak af and can't shoot for shit.

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gary  
Years ago

what happen with games where stats wernt taken?

the mandurah vs cockburn game about 5 weeks ago still has no stats on the website?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The ladder is a mess! But I think it's probably set from here on out. I can't see lakeside making it back in with the way they have been getting smashed.

Mandurah and Willo could keep falling and Giants rising

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can Lakeside hang onto 8th?

Will Giants continue their winning ways and have a win in the derby on their home floor?

Can the Hawks continue to knock off teams above them by near on 40 points each game? Slammers are on a slide and Hawks on a tear, but this one is a tough road game being played at Eaton on Friday night.

Can Cougars solidify top 4 by beating Slammers on their home floor? Oh how wrong we all were about these Cougars!

Magic arent safe yet. Wolves and Senators this weekend and struggling for form. Can they steady?

Tigers also not safe. Redbacks will be desperate for a win. A loss for them has to wipe them out completely from playoff contention?

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Why is Willo so average?

Is Kyle "Uncle Joes" Armour overrated?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He has had a few shockers lately, trying to be too creative and taking bad shots in transition

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Putney and Brown are no pushovers, both have impressive resumes and great athletes

is it more how they are being used than their individual talent?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would say definitely

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Anonymous  
Years ago

are redbacks the biggest bust of 2015?

on paper have a great roster but just havent been able to bring it together

They have probably the best local PG in the league, a solid shooting guard in Ben Smith (was an all star in 2014), Dennis Tawitti who had a massive year last year and one of the best local young bigs around, 2 highly touted Division 1 level imports, a highly experienced guard in AJ johnson and a bunch of solid role players who would easily make any SBL team in the league.

Their top 6 players are any bit as good, if not better than teams like Buccs or Cougars

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redbacks would be my biggest bust for 2015.

They were defeated by a zone last year and still can't beat one.

Want to score on them? Pick and roll, easy buckets.

They didn't recruit smart, Smith does not fit in there. Volume shooter who cannot play D.

Turner is the only option allowed 90% of the time.

Makes it real easy to load up on them. It also stops all their other options from getting anything going.

Really, really poorly coached this year. This unit should be top 4. Lackovic needs to take a LOT of the blame here, I bet he won't.

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Red74  
Years ago

No the walking ego will not take any blame

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Anonymous  
Years ago

could lakeside miss the playoffs for the first time in forever?

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Ruddiger  
Years ago

Agree with the comment on Lakovic taking blame, and that Redbacks are the biggest bust.

It would be no easy feat trying to manage the expectations of Turner and Brown, but he has ust done a terrible job of managing the REST of the team. If he spent half the he uses yelling abuse at referees, on actual player management, they could be top 8. Should've been top 4.

I'm glad this team hasn't done well, and the coach should be reported for 'bringing the game into disrepute' for teaching young Redbacks that its okay to feed one player... It's not.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The excuses may include
We had injuries
We never had a full list available
We are a young team
We have no budget
The refs screwed us
Brown didn't play any defence

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ruddiger  
Years ago

Interesting point on injuries, who does everyone think has suffered the most from injuries?

Perry Lakes - Hobbs, Dixon, Cassir
Willetton - Cody
Joondalup - Timms
Suns - Horn
Redbacks - Tawhiti

Can't really think of any other major ones, looks like P Lakes win.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It hasn't been a good year for the Redbacks.

The move to Curtin hasn't been the success Lackovic envisioned. Gotta be an expensive move too. Wonder if Belmont will answer the phone???

The Brown situation was handled atrociously. Really poorly done.

Players injured and re-injured constantly. Wonder why?

Money flowing from somewhere, straight down a drain.

At least the Bar is well stocked....oh wait.

If Lacko returns, how many players stay? Over/Under 5 leaving?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I dont think budget is a major concern for the Redbacks, although it might be now seeing as though they have pissed money away with Curtin and getting a second import so late in the season. It seems that Lackovic has the pull of a president rather than just a coach. Most other clubs who appear to be out of playoff contention wouldn't even entertain the thought of getting a replacement import so late in the season. He should be accountable for their performance this year and the roster that they have. He is one coach in the league that is painful to watch

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Regardless of the crowds and bar, the move to Curtin was a good one. Belmont Oasis was terrible, and they couldn't even secure it for home court advantage in the playoffs. It's a much more professional venue to build around.

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A couple of really interesting games on this weekend, what game are you most looking forward to seeing the result?

Wolves @ Buccs is 1st v 2nd with the Buccs getting the chocolates last time but it was a Sunday after the Wolfpack played in Bunbury on the Saturday night. Both teams will be fresh and the loss to the Giants can only motivate the Buccs that little bit more.

Or will this game fizzle because both teams are clearly going to finish 1 and 2 and will avoid seeing eachother until the GF (if they make it through)?

Hawks @ Giants is interesting because both teams are in form and seem to be healthy. Giants with 5 games on the trot now and Hawks with 4 out of the last 5 (dropping a Friday night in Bunbury which is no trip) with a big win against the league leaders. Last time they met it was a Sunday game with Hawks having the extra day's rest after playing Friday night.

In my mind this is game of the round because both teams have a lot to gain by winning.

Flames @ Senators is another interesting fixture as it was a close affair last time with the Flames getting it by 6 on a Friday night in Rocko. This time the Senators are coming off a good win and need the result to give themselves half a chance of playing into August.

I will only mention one more game but any game involving Lakeside at the moment has plenty of meaning as they need to turn it around if they want to stay in the hunt. With there schedule though it's hard to see them getting back in the 8 now.

The other game with a lot on the line is Magic @ Tigers. Both teams have only got 1 out of the last 5 and seem to be holding on to a playoff position because of the great starts they had. Last time out Magic got this by 14 points and I think the Tigers will struggle with the inside presence of Mullinax, Smith & Della.

It's an exciting time to be a fan of the SBL with plenty of meaningful games over the next month.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redbacks are not made of money, so the Curtin move is costing them heaps.

Belmont is old but it was their Home, Curtin is just a place to play. Guess who pushed for that venue?

Hawks have definitely turned things around. Having Cassir back off the bench is very handy. Same with Smith and O'Sullivan.

Will Mandurah be able to hang on to a top 8 spot? Hopefully Jackson is able to return.

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If Jackson is back for Mandurah it will go a long way towards them keeping their play off position. They don't have a lot of play making without him on the floor. He is one of the quicker guards in the league that can stay with Armour and/or Scott so if he isn't back it makes it a little harder for the Magic.

I say good on the Redbacks for making a move and trying to upgrade their facilities. They have been training at the venue for a while and the crowds and conditions at Belmont weren't getting any better. Sometimes change can take time to bare it's fruit, at least they have tried something. Time will tell.

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Peter  
Years ago

The top 8 is basically set.

Tigers only need 1 win from the 5 remaining games which will get them 12 wins which will secure the last playoff spot.
(May even get in with 11 wins).

Hawks need to win all remaining games as Tigers have H2H.
Lakeside wont win the 3 x games required.
Eagles, Slammers, Buccs, Wolves and then Giants (A)



Wolves
Buccs
Slammers
Cougars
Flames
Giants
Magic
Tigers

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I dont think anyone is arguing the move from Belmont to Curtin is a good one for the reds, its the performance of their team that is really in question here

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think the wolves are going to easily handle the Buccs.

UNLESS they are missing players.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

The title is Joondalup's to lose this year. They've been somewhat idling along under the radar (at the top of the ladder).
Very well balanced roster. Players are on the same page (Timms is obviously content to be an impact player of the bench).
Well coached with Ettridge & co. Definitely an organisation doing it right.

Buccs I don't think can replicate last years performance.

Cockburn are definitely threatening & have a contingent of players still around from their last title only a few years ago.

Slammers I don't think are overly worrisome. Teams are finally figuring out how to negate their stars & take advantage of a slim bench.

Bottom half of the 8 I believe can't truly contend.

Seasons is over for anyone outside of the 8. But I'm happy to be proved wrong.

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rinse  
Years ago

Joondalup - (Buccs, Cougars, Lightning, Eagles)
Joondalup SHOULD finish with 4/4, but may drop 2 to the Buccs and Cougars. Comfortable at the top and don't expect any upsets in the first round of finals either.AWOOOOO (ps Joondalup supporters are so annoying)

Geraldton – (Wolves, Lightning, Tigers, Cougars, Senators)
Buccs should stay second, but that game vs Cockburn could be a decider as they’re up on H2H. Drop to Joondalup this weekend and they’re in a spot of strife. Again, I wouldn’t expect them to lose in the first round vs Tigers or Magic.

Slammers – (Lightning, Eagles, Tigers, Suns, Redbacks)
A very easy run to the finals will see them win 5/5 as they take on 4 of the bottom 6 teams + a pretty ordinary Tigers team. Interesting if Cougars lose a bunch of games, they could regain 3rd.

Cougars – (Redbacks, Wolves, Buccs, Hawks)
Tough matchups against Wolves and Buccs, plus a Hawks team that is on the move. Drop a game against the Redbacks, and they could go down to 5th as the Flames have a very easy run to the post season. Should finish 4th.

Flames – (Senators, Eagles, Suns, Giants, Magic, Tigers)
Eeeeeasy finish to the season, Giants game could provide a surprise, maybe Magic too. W,W,W,L,L,W would still see them 5th, and is probably a fair representation of where they are this season.

Magic – (Tigers, Redbacks, Flames, Hawks, Suns)
Will probably win 3 of their last 5, and their battle is with the Giants really.. Will JUUUUST hold on to 6th .

Giants – (Hawks, Flames, Eagles, Redbacks, Lightning)
The big movers of the SBL, the Giants have picked up their White Doves and are peaking at the right time. A relatively easy schedule, and as someone mentioned before, this weekend is crucial for finals basketball. Would be amazing if Giants and Buccs versed each other first round, imagine the atmosphere!!

Tigers – (Magic, Senators, Buccs, Slammers, Flames)
Don’t be surprised if the Tigers finish 8th. I think they’ve got enough games in hand to hold off the Hawks + the H2H, but they’ll be wondering what went wrong from sitting 3rd at 8-2 and now 11-10.

Just an observation:
Geraldton v Giants (Country clubs)
Slammers v Magic (South-most clubs)
Cougars v Flames (next South-most clubs)
Joondalup v Tigers (largest junior clubs)

ILLUMINATI

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Red74  
Years ago

Dude, there is no such word in that context as versed. Please stop using it and get a dictionary.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tigers second biggest bust of 2015 behind redbacks

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"there is no such word in that context as versed"

I believe Red74 should stop calling the kettle black

Rinse is not R@andom but he is the closest thing we have to him on here. Rinse, use whatever context you want, its much better than reading the insipid articles elsewhere

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Anonymous  
Years ago

even with no crowd, as a player curtin is 10x better than belmont. It is early days and maybe if redbacks can somehow get some uni students involved (a bar could help here) then there might be some more bums on seats. great move i think

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Watcher  
Years ago

On the Redbacks website it says they get 300 - 600 people at SBL games every week. Think they meant to say 30 - 60

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Red74  
Years ago

Anon 975 , care to elaborate?

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Ruddiger  
Years ago

Red74 go do one with your boy Lackovic, rinse has even said he is no random and isn't claiming to be him. You know exactly what he's trying to say. Go apply a rainbow filters to your profile pic

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rinse  
Years ago

Woops, sorry it offended you mate, I never actually knew there wasn't a past tense to versus.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

mate, in the way you used the word 'versed' it is a future tense. Therefore try this:
Would be amazing if Giants and Buccs PLAYED (versed) each other.

Wow that was hard.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This isn't English class fellas, who cares!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Instead of wasting your time picking apart tense and grammar (if you want to point the finger, you generally start a sentence with a capital letter anon 039), why don't you comment on what rinse has predicted?

Generally forums like this aren't to judge and correct people spelling, grammar or tense, they are to have some interesting discussion without worrying about all that crap

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No way on this earth do the Redbacks get 300-600 people at their games. Is the walking ego running their website as well?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

100-150 to games at Curtin would be reasonable as a number, but why let that get in the way of a good story haha.

You are probably right #044, he would definitely have input on what is posted there. It's all about image, not production.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Here's an article I've written for the SBL website with my take on the playoff picture....

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-5011-0-0-0&sID=78732&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=35187032

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Definitely one of the more sensible articles I've read on the SBL website. For that I applaud you Lukosius.
Bringing some positivity amongst all these narky & negative posts with nothing constructive to say.

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Wednesday Dech  
Years ago

Lukosius smells

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gotta love reading an article not written by Chris Pike! Nice work Lukosius

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rinse  
Years ago

I too , applaud the aforementioned Lukosius

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Anyone but Chris Pike, good stuff Lukosius! good read

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Sai  
Years ago

I too.
Carry on.Can't wait next one.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who would you rather be stuck on an island with?
A: Chris Pike
B: Nik Lackovic

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Add in C: MC

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Anonymous  
Years ago

MC all the way. He is a most legend, and can sing the song afterwards

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Anonymous  
Years ago

is there a choice D where we can just stay alone without any of those options?

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

For old times sake... let's do this!

Cougars @ Lacko's Lair
Wow what to make of the Redbacks. Alot has been said on here about their form, roster changes, head coach etc but to be honest I genuinely feel for the players, a few of which I grew up with. A season that promised so much will now end in being spectators in August... Cockburn on the other hand have been nothing short of phenomenal. If my boy Matt Parsons isn't a lock for Coach of the Year (Many will say Haney and Hammer you know any other time i'd be all for you, but your 0-8 start to go with the fact NO-ONE rated the boys from Hammy Hill's chances prior to Week 1, mean he HAS to get it!) then I will seriously question the voting system used!! (I was going to offer streaking at Grand Final but my coaching aspirations got in the way! #LEL) Cockburn to put one of the final nails in the already closed coffin that is Perth's season - winning by 12

God Squad @ Eagles Nest
Lakeside barely holding on to Finals aspirations but needing more than some Holy Intervention to assist them in that quest. EP is season all over but at least they are blooding some of the younger crew in the chisseled adonis (#nohomo) that is Donlagic and gun guard Dinnardo. Flip of a coin here really but to stop Lakeside, you just have to contain Sunshine... EP on the other hand have four guys who could achieve that feat on any one night, which is why they will win by 9

Ben's Bowl-Lickers @ da Iconic 8th St Stadium
**Game Of The Week**
No secret as to the ramifications of this match. MASSIVE loss for Hez's boys up in the Fields of Gold last weekend, but in saying that the Giants have been nothing short of impeccable lately as Lukosius pointed out the other day! That being said though, the Buccs ARE a completely different team on their home court, and in front of what should be a jam-packed Eighth St Stadium of Midwest Maniacs! Joondalup have been travelling very smoothly and the form of Sebba has been Sensational to say the least. Playing in Gero holds near fear for the Wolfpack, having won up there in previous seasons and they should be quietly confident of getting the W on Saturday night. SHOULD be an absolute classic played in a Finals like atmosphere on and off the court, but being at home i'll go with the Buccs to get up by 2!

Hawks @ the Bowler-Dome
EXTREMELY tough ask for Nixy and the Hawks in this one, with Haney and his Giants being THE form team of the League at the moment, especially after the win over Gero last weekend. Hobbs may need to have 40+ in this for the boys from Headquarters to be a chance, but I just think the Giants have too many weapons on the offensive end for the Hawks to cover. Giants to continue their magical run ahead of a double header on the road next week, comfortably beating the Hawks by 15.

Utley's Arsonists @ Cody's Court
Flames with a tough double header, heading up to Warwick to take on a somewhat resurrgent Senators side being led brilliantly by Cody this year, then with the quick back up against the reigning champs in East Perth back at the Hothouse on Sunday afternoon. Biggest challenge for Coach Lindstrom here will be his guards stopping the likes of T Land, Godfrey, Bowman & Roberts. Flames to get up in a close one, winning by 5

Magic @ Blacky's Basketball Stadium
Mandurah struggling of late... Willo, despite the $tar $tudded Ro$ter, struggling for a large majority of the season. Ladder position says Mandurah should win this by double digits. Current form suggests the Tigers could win this by 20+, such has been the drop off of the Magic of late. Could go either way and genuinely wouldn't surprise me, but I will go with Tigers by 4 with absolutely ZERO confidence at all!!

Fordey's Feathered Fliers @ T Moore Court
Both teams on the back end of Double Headers and to take the catchphrase of a very respected journo 'I am sure all players will try their best' ;-) The matchup between T Land and Jo-Alan is always entertaining to watch if nothing else, and in front of what should be a large Rocko crowd given no WABL games this weekend aside from the early morning U12s fixtures (Kudos again Mr Bowler for the 8am game... no, no its great!) I think the Flames will get up by 9 in what at times could be a very spiteful affair.

Senators @ Shed in the Sticks
DANGER game here for the Senators, with both sides only playing for pride now - and the Suns fresh whilst the Senators will be backing up from their clash at home on Saturday vs Rocko. Who stops Cody for the Suns is the big question mark here and could be the defining factor as to who gets the bickies here. Suns in an upset by 3

Slammers @ The Church
God Squad on the back end of a double header and the very likely / rather unwanted record of being the first Lightning team to miss the Finals since they came into the League? I am sure Lukosius can confirm that stat for me if he can be bothered! ;-P Slammers losing their early season 'invincibility' somewhat of late but still have a starting five which will challenge every other team in the League when fully fit... South West to get a W on the road, knocking off the God Squad before the Evening Service by 18.

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

For old times sake... let's do this!

Cougars @ Lacko's Lair
Wow what to make of the Redbacks. Alot has been said on here about their form, roster changes, head coach etc but to be honest I genuinely feel for the players, a few of which I grew up with. A season that promised so much will now end in being spectators in August... Cockburn on the other hand have been nothing short of phenomenal. If my boy Matt Parsons isn't a lock for Coach of the Year (Many will say Haney and Hammer you know any other time i'd be all for you, but your 0-8 start to go with the fact NO-ONE rated the boys from Hammy Hill's chances prior to Week 1, mean he HAS to get it!) then I will seriously question the voting system used!! (I was going to offer streaking at Grand Final but my coaching aspirations got in the way! #LEL) Cockburn to put one of the final nails in the already closed coffin that is Perth's season - winning by 12

God Squad @ Eagles Nest
Lakeside barely holding on to Finals aspirations but needing more than some Holy Intervention to assist them in that quest. EP is season all over but at least they are blooding some of the younger crew in the chisseled adonis (#nohomo) that is Donlagic and gun guard Dinnardo. Flip of a coin here really but to stop Lakeside, you just have to contain Sunshine... EP on the other hand have four guys who could achieve that feat on any one night, which is why they will win by 9

Ben's Bowl-Lickers @ da Iconic 8th St Stadium
**Game Of The Week**
No secret as to the ramifications of this match. MASSIVE loss for Hez's boys up in the Fields of Gold last weekend, but in saying that the Giants have been nothing short of impeccable lately as Lukosius pointed out the other day! That being said though, the Buccs ARE a completely different team on their home court, and in front of what should be a jam-packed Eighth St Stadium of Midwest Maniacs! Joondalup have been travelling very smoothly and the form of Sebba has been Sensational to say the least. Playing in Gero holds near fear for the Wolfpack, having won up there in previous seasons and they should be quietly confident of getting the W on Saturday night. SHOULD be an absolute classic played in a Finals like atmosphere on and off the court, but being at home i'll go with the Buccs to get up by 2!

Hawks @ the Bowler-Dome
EXTREMELY tough ask for Nixy and the Hawks in this one, with Haney and his Giants being THE form team of the League at the moment, especially after the win over Gero last weekend. Hobbs may need to have 40+ in this for the boys from Headquarters to be a chance, but I just think the Giants have too many weapons on the offensive end for the Hawks to cover. Giants to continue their magical run ahead of a double header on the road next week, comfortably beating the Hawks by 15.

Utley's Arsonists @ Cody's Court
Flames with a tough double header, heading up to Warwick to take on a somewhat resurrgent Senators side being led brilliantly by Cody this year, then with the quick back up against the reigning champs in East Perth back at the Hothouse on Sunday afternoon. Biggest challenge for Coach Lindstrom here will be his guards stopping the likes of T Land, Godfrey, Bowman & Roberts. Flames to get up in a close one, winning by 5

Magic @ Blacky's Basketball Stadium
Mandurah struggling of late... Willo, despite the $tar $tudded Ro$ter, struggling for a large majority of the season. Ladder position says Mandurah should win this by double digits. Current form suggests the Tigers could win this by 20+, such has been the drop off of the Magic of late. Could go either way and genuinely wouldn't surprise me, but I will go with Tigers by 4 with absolutely ZERO confidence at all!!

Fordey's Feathered Fliers @ T Moore Court
Both teams on the back end of Double Headers and to take the catchphrase of a very respected journo 'I am sure all players will try their best' ;-) The matchup between T Land and Jo-Alan is always entertaining to watch if nothing else, and in front of what should be a large Rocko crowd given no WABL games this weekend aside from the early morning U12s fixtures (Kudos again Mr Bowler for the 8am game... no, no its great!) I think the Flames will get up by 9 in what at times could be a very spiteful affair.

Senators @ Shed in the Sticks
DANGER game here for the Senators, with both sides only playing for pride now - and the Suns fresh whilst the Senators will be backing up from their clash at home on Saturday vs Rocko. Who stops Cody for the Suns is the big question mark here and could be the defining factor as to who gets the bickies here. Suns in an upset by 3

Slammers @ The Church
God Squad on the back end of a double header and the very likely / rather unwanted record of being the first Lightning team to miss the Finals since they came into the League? I am sure Lukosius can confirm that stat for me if he can be bothered! ;-P Slammers losing their early season 'invincibility' somewhat of late but still have a starting five which will challenge every other team in the League when fully fit... South West to get a W on the road, knocking off the God Squad before the Evening Service by 18.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Wow, welcome back. That was so good I read both versions. Great to see you back Random.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lakeside missed the finals in 2001 when they finished ninth with a 11-15 record, but they've already lost the second most games in men's club history

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Macca  
Years ago

Well that just made my day... welcome back R@ndom!

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The Poss  
Years ago

Has the gag order been lifted?

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Macca  
Years ago

Lets hope so!

Ive just read the preview a second time and like watching an epic movie there are so many things you miss the first time around.

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Dh  
Years ago

Cougars no Lane or Prince ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No Lane or Prince for Cockburn.

No Tawhiti or Nikora for Redbacks.

Very scrappy game, Turner was asleep the first half then woke up.

Pesava honed his acting skills all night, stop flopping dude.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Unbelievable that P Throns is still put on Lakeside games given his personal issues with the club.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What issues does Throns have with Lakeside?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes do tell what issues you have with your anon profile!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

38-9 last quarter for wolves, wow

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wow what a massive win from the Wolfpack!! Looking at the stats DT - 0 points in 26 minutes, great return for the $800 per game Gero are paying him! Surely he is the most overrated in the league?

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Huge win for Hawks in Ben Purser's 200th game, Bowie with another stellar performance for Giants

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Anonymous  
Years ago

with Magic in free fall and Hawks still winning is there any chance they can make the eight?

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Helen Bertolini  
Years ago

I get this is public forum where we are all allowed our opinion. However, when you make a statement about a player from another club, you might want to check your facts first. And I am happy to put my name to this post.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And what exactly are you referring to Helen? Did someone not get their facts straight?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Helen would be refering to Dt being the most overrated player in the league.The guy has worked hard to overcome a potentially career ending injury . A year off basketball you are going to have some good and bad games. And he is not getting paid $800 a week . So your facts are not straight..

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Someday dech  
Years ago

Throns is the worst ref in the league with actual experience some of the younger ones have at least an excuse of lack of experience but throns literally makes up rules mid game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

when did the SBL rookie of the year award change to most improved player? how did nick burston win ROY in 2003??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So what the hell happened at the end of the Rocko v Stirling game?

Accusations and innuendos on FB last night.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hey cant be Throns for obvious reasons.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Throns has something against Lakeside

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Throns has something against anyone that tries to question a call or ask him a question during the game. One of the most arrogant refs in the league

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Alright guys, let's change this up a bit. I want to hear your thoughts on who you think are the most beautiful women in the SBL. Keep it real!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do the Willeton Men count?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Or any male player with one of those stupid ponytails/buns?

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Kyle "Waylon" Armour is a 10/10.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nikita Martin

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red74  
Years ago

Not cool anon 887.
not the place. definitely not an appropriate question. They are not playing for your viewing pleasure. Keep it to yourself.

FYI Red74 = male

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Anonymous  
Years ago

ok, so maybe not the right place to start rating women on their appearance, but got me thinking what are the 'beautiful' things we get to see in the SBL.

Alan Black's sideline fist pumping = beautiful technique

The Rockingham fan who has the perfect "waahhh waahhh waahhhh waaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh" when opposition misses a free throw = just beautiful

Anthony from Lakeside's Michael Jackson dances = beautifully executed

Joe Allan's pull up jump shot from the elbow = beautiful

Cooper Land's rats tail = its wrong but strangely beautiful

Curtin Stadium = beautiful

Wanneroo Wolves mascot = beautiful to very few

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The private practice has made for perfect pumping.

Hope he's not allowed to breed.

"Break a Leg" Anthony.

How about his pull up elbow after your shot.

It's a Rocko thing.

Nice place - but there's something missing.

Like many from up that way, really big head and not much substance.

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nelg14  
Years ago

Wanneroo doesn't actually have a mascot......Joondalup however does ; )

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thanks nelg I'm so so glad you were able to clear that up. All is now right with the world

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

What about Adam Johnston's calves? Just massively beautiful

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Josh Garlepps hair is also a thing of fine beauty

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Josh Garlepp is the most popular man in the SBL by a margin, no idea why

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rumour is the entire Willetton mens team is going to do one of those fireman calendars so they can see themselves shirtless in print. Jake Burston to be on the cover

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Josh Garleep and Jake Burston. The 2 coolest people of the SBL.

By cool I mean ugly.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

While Johnstone's calves are incredible, Cockburn's Ben Stanley has been the long time calf champion.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think Andrew Black should be on the cover

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers D League star Jacob Kobzeff has the best calves on any man worldwide, they are just perfect

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Only if Alan Black is the coach

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Daniel Thomas social media game is sensational

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Anonymous  
Years ago

whats been happening?^ which social media platform are we talking?

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Wednesday Dech  
Years ago

Grindr

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Ben Stanley's are impressive until you see the tiny feet he has for a man of his size.

Is Willo the ugliest mens team of all time?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Willo no, Mandurah and/or Gero yes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Worst tattoo in the league? Justin Eckhardt's ridiculous Jordan tattoo must take the cake.

Also shout out to anyone who has their initials on their triceps (Bryton Hobbs we looking at you)

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Cant we just get on the topic of SBL.
I personally don't give a toss about peoples tattoos, pony tails, hotness factor or irrelevant topics from people who wish they were as talented on the court as they are on a keyboard.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

True Clive, back to business everyone

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Peter  
Years ago

Good idea.

Perry Lakes Hawks very much alive with huge OT win at the Goldfields.
They have big double header this weekend with two very winnable games (Senators and Eagles).
Win both and it gets very interesting for the top 8.

Also huge weekend for Flames with 2 x wins without C.Land who are trying to chase down the Cougars for 4th spot and home court advantage.

Giants on the road this week taking on Flames and Redbacks.
Could go 2-0 or just as easily go 0-2 depending on each team's injuries.

Redbacks must go 2/2 against Magic/Gaints to hold onto any slim hope of finals in 2015.

Magic (v Redbacks) need a win to keep Hawks and Gaints at bay or face very real chance of missing finals all together.

A loss this week for Lakeside (v Geraldton) will officially put them out of contention.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SBL_awards_and_honours
All SBL awards in one nice place, only Grand Final MVPs incomplete

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Clive has spoken

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No radio show this week?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Fascinating last few weeks of the teams in sixth through tenth.

If Lakeside lose against Gero this week, its pretty much season done for them. They will be stuck one 9 wins with only two games remaining. They will likely have the split over the Giants, but if the Goldfields club can win two of their last four games, that's it for the god squad.

The Giants must win at least two of their last four games to have a hope of making playoffs. The Hawks have the split over them, but Haney's team has it over the Magic. If they can get to 12 wins for the season, they will be gunning for the Magic's spot, three wins to take them to 13 for the season will be enough.

The Magic on the other hand are stuck on 11 wins, should go 1-3 over the last few weeks of the season. Two wins should be enough to hold on for a playoff spot, but they have Redbacks, Rocko, Hawks and Suns.

Perry Lakes are stuck on 9 wins and would need to go 3-1 to get to 12 wins, and have Stirling, East Perth, Mandurah and Cockburn to close the season, which is very doable.

Redbacks, stuck on eight wins, need to win all their remaining games and have other results go their way if they are to have a hope.

Willetton could only go 1-3 for the rest of the season with games against Stirling, Gero, Bunbury and Rockingham, but should hold onto 6th

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Willo are still a fkn ugly team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

1. Joondalup
2. Geraldton
3. Slammers
4. Cougars
5. Flames
6. Willetton
7. Goldfields
8. Mandurah

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

ROUND 18 Preview

Rocko @ Shed In The Sticks
Could be a danger game here for the boys from the South, as it should be quite chilly in them there Hills and with the Goldfields awaiting them on Saturday night - will definitely want to win this to keep their ladder position intact. Triscari's boys coming off a heartbreaking loss by the barest of margins and will look to turn the tables on the Head Coaches former club. Suns to push the Flames, but with C Land & Bowman expected back in the lineup... its hard to see them getting the W. Rocko by 7

Senators @ Headquarters
Hawks still clinging on to Finals hopes, coming up against Stirling who were involved in two nailbiters last weekend against the Flames and Suns respectively. If Iliadis or Bruton can't find a solution to stopping Hobbs (Your gameplan of Flopping when breathed on worked really well last week AB!) its hard to see how the Senators will win with Purser and Cody likely to cancel each other out. Hawks to keep the dream alive, winning by 4

Giants @ The Hothouse
The dangerous Giants hit the road after somewhat of an upset loss to the Hawks on their home court last Saturday night up in the 'Goorlie. Flames on the quick backup, but after defeating the Giants on the road earlier this year - should be confident of repeating the effort on the far more open expanses at Mike Barnett... Flames to get up in a close one by 3

Buccs @ The Church
Lakeside S-T-ruggling more than a working girl on Hay St the day before Pay Day... play host to a Buccs side who were once again given a lesson on their home court for the third year in a row by the visiting Wolfpack. Further bad news resulted in the ligament injury to Cooperwood and it leaves their bench somewhat exposed on this road trip. Gero to get back in the Winners circle, but barring a massive upset loss for the Wolves in the next three Weeks, they're probably just playing for 2nd now... Buccs by 17

Eagles @ SLAM-Stadium
South West needing to win to hold on to 3rd position from Cockburn & Rocko. Eagles splitting their double header against the Lightning & Flames last weekend, but the worry will be the fact Williamson didn't play in the game vs Flames on Saturday night. Definite Danger game if Williamson does play, but the BIG 4 of the Slammers should still have too much polish for East Perth in this one. Slammers to get the choccies, winning by 11

Cougars @ South Gero Stadium **Game of the Week**
Top 4 clash here but the key factor to this result WILL BE the fitness of Najee Lane. If he doesn't suit up, it is really hard to make a case for the boys from Hammy Hill to pull off the upset here, particularly on the road to a side who disposed of the Buccs by double figures last week up in Gero. For the Wolves, Sebba is in scintilating form at the moment and a major reason why the Wolfpack currently sit atop the SBL Ladder. Joondalup to continue their winning ways, defeating the Lane-less Cougars by 9

Redbacks @ Mandurah
What to make of this game... Magic on a four game losing streak would struggle to beat themselves at the moment!! Perth needing to win all of their remaining games plus have a heap of other results around the League go their way to be even a remote chance of playing in August. Like the Willo / Magic game of last week, very little confidence in this but I will go with Perth just to be the more desperate side, defeating Mandurah by 5

Tigers @ Stirling
Senators on their second double header in as many weekends, play host to an inconsistent Willo side that still need at least one more win to ensure they see Finals action in 2015 (13 wins WILL get you into the Finals this year!) If the 'real' Willetton shows up, they win this by 10+... if they can't stop Cody & Kyle then they lose by 8 and again risk not securing a Finals spot which many pundits thought would be a given before the season, given the talent on their Roster!

Giants @ Curtin Uni
How Goldfields back up is the most important factor to determining the outcome of this game. Both sides playing the night before within 20km of each other (Rockingham & Mandurah) and with both of those games expected to be very close, bench depth could be a significant factor here. Given that - Hurst has been phenomenal this year and has to be a candidate for Sixth Man Of The Year, and he should be the difference in this one. Giants to split the double header - winning by 6

Buccs @ Willo
Gero to still be angry from their loss last weekend... and will take it out on a tired Tigers side at The Boulevarde. Buccs to get up by 12

Hawks @ The Nest
Battle of the Birds here as the boys from Floreat take the short drive east to Morley to take on the Eagles, with both sides on the back end of Double Headers and the very suspect Eagles bench to be severely tested in this one. Perry Lakes still holding on to Finals Aspirations, and it will be those aspirations which should get them over the line in this one. Hawks by 14

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Stirling would be fucken no where with out Ellis

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Anonymous  
Years ago

imagine he played defense!

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maxymoo  
Years ago

Was at the Hawks v Senators last night.

First up - Piss Poor by BWA ...Presentation for Ben Purser's 200th game ...No BWA representative there. Connect with the grass roots and give a flying poop.

Stirling have no game plan other than put up 3's it appears ...they shot 38 of em (perhaps I'm the meathead because it nearly worked).

Perry Lakes were the better team but at critical times they just stopped. Hobbs was the difference - when the game was there to be won he was just silk. He split a triple team with a step through that was as good as you'll see.

What I didn't understand was the limited use of Krumel by PL's in the 2nd half. He is solid and bigger than anyone Senators had and he shot 6 from 9.

Hawks will probably scrape into the finals but I can't see them doing much damage unless they use all the tools in the tool box to their maximum effect.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If PL spent some time working on their game instead of their hair they would win a few more.

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What's going on at Tigerland?

Loaded Team, Master Coach & struggling to keep Finals dream alive. If they make finals they will most likely face Joondalup or Buccs - so is a 'straight sets' exit looming?

2 points after half-time from Kyle Armour tonight against Stirling simply not good enough from the All-Star Captain!

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Mandurah magic should refund the $10 to all supporters
I have never left a mandurah game early
And we have been through some rough years
But tonight took the cake
After 3 quarters of torture I'd had enough

First of all who is this coach
Gets down by 18 points in the first 4 minutes
No time out
No subs
No changes offensively or defensively
Get down by 33 mid way through second
Makes a few changes
Magic get it back to 16 at the main break

Second half
Exact same starters
16 points escalate to 33 points in 4 minutes
Again no time outs
No subs
Was this guy found in a week box box

Magic guys playing with no heart what's so over
Couldn't even get back on d
No rebounding
No ball movement
No defense


Years ago we struggling every game
But at least there was passion in the group

I won't be going to our next home game
The first I will miss in 3 years


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mandurah are terrible
Coach needs to be taught how to sub
And how to use timeouts
Both are legal moves in games
And both can stop runs
Never seen a team where players do
As they please and stay on the court
A heap of over rated players doing nothing
They will only make finals if other results
Go there way. Can't see them
Turning this around

Willo similar situation
Lucky to make finals
Very over rated

Waneroo
Buccs
Slammers
Cockburn
Flames
Giants
Willo
Perry lakes/Perth/mandurah(undeservedly)

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gary  
Years ago

http://wbuathletics.com/news/2015/7/11/MBB_0711155552.aspx

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Dh  
Years ago

Was at the Mandurah game and can see a very frustrated team .
Coach doesn't know how to coach ,agree with the we weetbix comment .
Why is Taylor Mullenax playing so bad He used to be good for 25 30 points Same with Rhett Della stats are way down . Brendon Della and Daniel are very aggressive on the court , now no court time . Ben Smith playing ok but not his usual self .
The club survived the financial hardships to end up like this. Yes the supporters were disappointed and most left. Any players looking for a game in 2016 can go to Mandurah, as if this coach is retained there won't be a team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good news for a good guy. Also great he is seeing out his tenure with the Slammers.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who is Mandurahs coach?

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Jason Kyle, first year as the Magic men's head coach

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mandurah were a top 5 team for first half of season and everyone was singing their praises! It's amazing how quickly things change.

The injury to Jackson is where things started to take a turn and also shows just how important he is to their lineup.

The last thing Mandurah need right now are fickle supporters. They have a talented roster and have managed to put it together despite the chaos of the chalk scandal. This is a feat in itself.

The playoffs are still theirs for the taking if they can pull things together these last two weeks. With a veteran team this is not out of the question. It would be great to see the supporters get behind the boys and the team when they need it the most. That is what true support is about.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Vague for MVP

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Have another drink ^^^

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Leonie Musgrave  
Years ago

I was at the Magic v Redbacks game too. I saw a few senior players that need a real attitude change. It's been a long time since I've seen us play like that. I bit of heart and pride would have been nice. When players dish up that sort of crap why is it always the coaches fault? Surely they are grown up and experienced enough to know what needs to be done to get a win or even just fight the game out.
Just for you detractors of JK ( Jason Kyle) he is a man of integrity, passion for this game of ours. I had the privilege to be his manageress when he coached our Magic Women a few years ago.
I'm guessing your a basketball fan or you would not be at the game. So when the going gets tough you leave, well done mate. No matter how bad it's gotten over the years and believe me there's been time when it's gotten real bad, I've been there and stayed till the end. The Mandurah Magic are my club and I'm damn proud of them.
AND I will put my name to this post.
Leonie Musgrave aka Mrs M.
LIFE MEMBER of THE MANDURAH MAGIC.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Important two weeks to round out the season to see who can pinch the 8th seed in the playoffs.

Mandurah & Perry Lakes are in the box seat to lay claims with 11-12 & 11-13 wins respectively. Either team winning one more game will advance to 12 wins & officially eliminate Perth, Stirling & Lakeside from the post-season equation (unfortunately at least one team will advance to 12 wins Saturday when PL/Man clash - so I guess they are officially out now technically).

Mandurah to play Rockingham in a vital fixture Friday night then an absolute blockbuster in terms of importance where they in fact will meet the Hawks.

Last round Hawks will then have to do it tough against Cockburn while Mandurah are possibly gifted the Suns.

Going to be an exciting finish. I think Perry Lakes should complete what will be an impressive second half of the season turnaround & squeeze out a sliding Mandurah.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers forward Brian Voelkel is currently leading the SBL in rebounds (17.9 per game) and equal first in assists (tied with Taylor Land at 7.7 per game).
Would surely be the first SBL player to ever finish the season first in both of those categories if he can keep his numbers up for the remainder of the year?
6 triple-doubles for the season isn't a bad effort either, with 5 other games missing out on the TD by just 1 or 2 assists.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Officially the Redbacks, Senators and Lightning are out of playoff contention (along with the Eagles and Suns).

The most wins any of those three teams can get is 11.

With the Magic still to play the Hawks, the 8th-team will have at least 12 wins.

So effectively the ladder can be split into 3 groups...

1) Guaranteed a playoff spot:
1. Wolves (21-3) - Guaranteed 1st
2. Buccs (19-5) - Can finish 2nd or 3rd
3. Slammers (16-7) - can finish 2nd, 3rd or 4th
4. Cougars (15-9) - Can finish 3rd, 4th or 5th
5. Flames (14-10) - Can finish 4th to 8th

2) In the mix for a playoff spot:
6. Tigers (12-12)
7. Giants (12-12)
8. Magic (11-12)
9. Hawks (11-13)

3) Cannot make the playoffs:
10. Redbacks (9-15)
11. Senators (9-15)
12. Lightning (9-15)
13. Eagles (7-17)
14. Eastern Suns (2-22)


Where can they finish:
1. Wolves - Guaranteed 1st
2. Buccs - 2nd or 3rd
3. Slammers - 2nd, 3rd or 4th
4. Cougars - 3rd, 4th or 5th
5. Flames - 4th thru to 8th
6. Tigers - 5th thru to 9th
7. Giants - 5th thru to 9th
8. Magic - 5th thru to 11th
9. Hawks - 6th thru to 11th

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Watcher  
Years ago

Well said Leonie from Mandurah. All too often these so called passionate fans are ready to walk as soon as their team is losing. A real supporter sticks by his club or team and is there no matter what. All too often everyone wants to blame the coach. I too know Jason and know that he has plenty of credentials. We are not talking about a little kids team but adults who should be made responsible for their actions. Agree that a few of the current senior players at Mandurah need to be spoken to about their attitude and lack of passion.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers player coach Ty Harrelson won't be returning to the team next season after signing as head coach at his old college in the USA

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redbacks must be bitterly disappointed with how their season went. I can imagine they invested some serious coin to make a grand final push and to fall short of the playoffs, with the roster they suited up, some higher ups there would not be happy. Some users had them a lock for top four, with a few saying they will be the team to beat.

Fair enough with some injuries, and issues with their second yank, but they have one of the most dominant imports in recent memory, along with a pretty talented aussie/NZ brigade. Is it time for the spiders to look at whether Lacko is the right man for the head coaching position?

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different  
Years ago

I have enjoyed this forum alot this season. Alot of people get to have their say. Sure u get the haters alot towards willo and perry lakes which is weird. But alot of the topics are interesting.

Any way my view of the season shows how important vets/role players are. Wannaroo recuited well and will probably win it. Gero again strong team to recuiting well. Slammers have 4 imports speaks for 3rd position. But cougars and rocko really show how important mature players are. Cougars got two gun imports. My pick for mvp field. Then davey, sheldon, prince and even van lit to be a very solid team.
Like everyone was picking this team for the spoon. Then rocko has the reining mvp and the annoying/best point guard this year in the lands. Then Godfrey had a pretty decent year but then its the likes of remmerswall, griffen, bowman and the big vet moore keeps this team in the top six for the second year. Which only gero has done.

Willo will win a championship if they keep this young core and bring in two gun imports. Just age and maturity have hurt this team. magic have fallen off but on paper they should make the finals just on talent. Then kal with pretty much 3 imports and perry lakes had a good run. But i ask why such the bad starts. I know chemistry is a key but still. This shows how important the early games are.

Perth are are massive disappointments. Good team on paper but just cant win. Lakeside are going through a transition but still under achievers. Stirling are where i picked them. East perth lost two guns but still a really bad season and lucky to even suit up a team some games. And suns are just bad. Two imports and last by a fair margain is not a good look.

Mvp field
coy the cougars coach
most improved ryan smith
Winners wannaroo over cougars just

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Tyrell  
Years ago

have to ask what is going on at Suns? Two imports and Chan plus some of the younger players from the WK era and they have actually gone backwards. BIG mistake getting rid of WK and DJ (both very knowledgeable and both top blokes- some love WK some hate him, but I know the guy well, and he is a top bloke with some excellent coaching ideas and the best fundamentals coach in Australia- big call, but I'm making it!!!) They had a core group who were coming good, instead they got rid of WK, lost Smith, Questel, Timms, Zornada, Manyang, Radar and Krummell and then obviously Nevill was never going to come back!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^ Finally someone telling it how it is.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WK is a great bloke but I don't know why people think Suns were in any better position under him?
In the two years he was coach they finished last and second last. That was with the core group that was supposedly coming good.
In 2012 Suns made they playoffs and had the same amount of wins as the last 3 years combined.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Personally I am not a fan of watching a coach tear strips off his youngsters on the sidelines for small things. I get that they need to learn but I always think there are better ways to do it. I didn't really like his style of coaching and hoped that the Suns could move forward with Triscari coming in, or at least retaining Jamieson. Triscari spends more time complaining to the refs than actually coaching so perhaps the Suns board need to have a good hard look at what they want to achieve come season end.

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gary  
Years ago

Cougars and Wolves will not meet in the GF.

The likely second round will be

Wolves vs Cougars/Flames

Buccs vs Slammers/Giants/Willeton

My pick is wolves v buccs, with Harrelsons attentions clearly going to be affected by his new coaching gig.

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Tyrell  
Years ago

First anon, from 2012 to 2013 they were pretty much different teams, and with WK's gamestyle being something completely new to the players it was always going to take time to develop, I think it was originally a 3-4 year plan. Suns were in a better position because of his gamestyle, which was based on fundamentals, they were competitive and the individual development that each player got over those seasons made them so much better. Think of Ben Smith, Timms, Questel, Kerrod Horn shot through the roof, Jono Diaz was an excellent defender etc etc all those players became better because of WK. Even when Nevill wasn't playing Suns were competitive. This current Suns team, playing 'traditional' ball (compared to WK) with 2 very good imports has not made any improvements. Had they have kept WK (DJ had other commitments so could not commit to Suns) they would have kept those core players and this season would have been far more successful.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Did those core players decide to leave before or after it was known Warren wouldn't be the SBL coach? The talk of them leaving started on here in mid November.
I watched WK coaching WABL kids in a game recently and the way he screamed at the kids and was right in their face was disgraceful. I'm aware he has failing health, but he had his face 30cm from a players face and I could hear him screaming from forty metres away. Not right for WABL kids 16yo.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sorry Tyrell but Questel was better under Mccormick than Warren, Ash also was the person that gave Jono Diaz his opportunity when many other disagreed with him. Ash had teams that won and improved, while including and helping Kalamunda juniors. Crazy how the Club turfed him out.

Warren inherited good players from Ash.

Ben Smith put up good number jacking shots at will. Timms the same. Thats not Basketball.

Players left this year because of him and the prospect of him staying. They sure didn't leave because he left. Neville and Timms the exception, as the payday for Neville ended and Timms did whatever Warren wanted.

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Tyrell  
Years ago

Anon- I don't know too much about Ash, but his record in 2012 (making finals) indicates he could coach. Which players are you suggesting Warren inherited?

Regarding Questell it's hard to say, because under Ash he had a stronger group around him whereas with Warren it was all relatively new. I know for a fact that Joel and Ben stayed on for 2014 with Suns because Warren was coaching. I also know firsthand several others left because Warren was not returning. The murmurings of Warren not continuing on earlier than November.

I get what you're saying about the yelling. He is most certainly passionate and whilst his methods are definitely not mainstream he does get results.

Nonetheless, good to have some SBL and Suns banter!!

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Watcher  
Years ago

Think there is a fine line between pushing players and getting the best out of them and verbally abusing them in front of everyone until they have tears welling in their eyes. Watching young men get to this stage during SBL or WABL games is not right. There is a thing called respect and it works for both the players and the coaches.

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Watcher  
Years ago

Think there is a fine line between pushing players and getting the best out of them and verbally abusing them in front of everyone until they have tears welling in their eyes. Watching young men get to this stage during SBL or WABL games is not right. There is a thing called respect and it works for both the players and the coaches.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Can we please stop talking about a 2 win bottom of the table side when it is almost playoff time.

With the regular season coming to a close - what has been everyone's singular favourite moment to date? Whether that's an individual players performance, team performance or club performance.

I'm interested to know what blew peoples hair back...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Come on Clive, it's an SBL forum topic, thus the above is warranted.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

singular favourite moment to date?

Josh Garlepps screen on Chutney the mantis.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Clive "fun police" Nicholls needs to relax a little

Clive's favorite moment of this season, getting on the forum and telling people what they should and shouldn't talk about

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Take some tongue in cheek humour with a grain of salt you anonymous sad sack.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Speaking of changes of coaches, the Giants decision to appoint Michael Haney has proved genius. After some teething problems early, in part to losing Franich in the opening week and adding Muo, they have been rolling since getting their first win going 12-4 after starting 0-8.

Both the Suns and the Giants have been cellar dwellars the last two seasons, but with Haney at the helm and the Giants following the model of success (getting a fringe NBL guy in addition to 2 imports-like Gero have with Lewis), they have seen their fortunes change pretty quickly.

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Jersh Garlepp  
Years ago

I am not a hero... @Anon063

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Josh Garlepp you moron.

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Hairy  
Years ago

Lets Talk awards winners.
only 2 weeks away from playoffs and we have seen some huge individual performances this year.

who gets the nod for:

MVP
MIP
COY
ROY

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Most of that has already been discussed.

MVP: Lewis, Nichols or Field most probably.
MIP: Vague, Dech, Martin, Parkinson
COY: Ettridge or Parsons

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

MVP is a two horse race in my book this year.

1 - Brain Voelkel
14.6ppg, 17.9rpg (1st in league), 7.7apg (1st in league), 1.5spg, 50%FG, 40%3PTFG - 3rd ladder position

2 - Gavin Field
26.2ppg, 9.3rpg, 4.3apg, 1.4spg, 1.8bpg, 41%FG, 90%FT - 4th ladder position

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

What about the WSBL?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

what's that?

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Peter  
Years ago

Ray Turner is clearly the best player in the league.
31/16 at 58%
Although they wouldn't have won enough games

Then it is either T.Nichols or Bennie Lewis.

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Peter  
Years ago

Field's form as dipped (marginally) in the back half of the season, although he did set an incredible early standard. He is still the best Aussie born player this year I would think.

N.Lane 22.3/9.8/3.9 @ 48.3 leads the league in steals. Will take votes

Millam (22.3/8.3 @ 54.3%) will take some votes also.

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Cooper Land also has been impressive right

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Greeny  
Years ago

WSBL
MVP Sami Whitcomb
MIP Ash Grant
COY. Ryan Petrick

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Can anyone seriously touch Wolves in the MSBL?

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

They must be praying that hawks dont make the 8th spot after they spanked them earlier this year, like seriously praying super hard.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I watched that game. Wolves kept players out and limited minutes of others as they had a game the next night. Seb didn't shoot well, Illiardis looked like he only tried hard in one quarter, Robbins was not interested and no concerns shown on the bench. PL played well but not under the pressure you'd expect from Wolves.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mvp bennie Lewis
Most improved Rhys vague
Coach of year Matt parsons

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Has Robbo been interested at all this year?

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AG  
Years ago

Cougars beat Wolves at home mid-season but no Seb for Wolves. Wolves smacked the Cougars last week but no Sheldon and Lane was in hospital for most of the week. If they meet in the semi's it could go either way...

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Both those teams are tough but gotta love Perry lakes going into finals,

Kyle Armour has been there before dont sleep on him and Willo either.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Calm down there Big Johnson, PL have to make the finals first before you can start singing their praises. And IF they do make it, I'm pretty sure the consensus is they wont go past round 1.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"IF" they make finals they will go out 0-2. I'm sure any of the top teams will be looking forward to that match up.

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Kyle Armour is too busy Uncle Joe's-ing with Mark Cain.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who the hell is this Mark Cain person?

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Mark Cain was my dad, but he moved over east

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Hang on, did Chris Pike really publish a genuine article for once? That Giants' piece was actually readable

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cant have been Pikey, probably plagiarised it from the Kal Miner

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Calm down, the article is a transcribe of the SBL Slam interview Haney did.

I imagine Pike is just doing what he has been asked by the SBL. I question why the SBL continue to waste money on such a product when it's clear nobody even values the articles.

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Big Sexy  
Years ago

LEL Pike doin a readable article is like saying a Stirling player is going to win defensive player of the year award!
Why has nothin been done about East Perth never havin more than 8 or 9 playas? Aint there some rule sayin you have to have a specific minimum or somethin? Or is Forde pullin his 'Wildcats Card' to just allow it to happen..
Most Overrated Player: B Voekel - dude belongs in a mental institution not on a basketball court!
Most Underrated Player: J Jackson - Magic suck without him in that lineup.. too old, too slow, too much egos!
Likely Mens Champions: Wolves
Dark Horse: Kalgoolie
Newsworthy Story after Grand Final: Ref forgets its about the two teams playing not all about him.. Gets WNBL contract terminated

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Magic suck without Jackson
They were fine last year
No hack onJackson definetly makes them
A fat better team
Just the guy they brought up from the
D league doesn't seem to help

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big Sexy- don't know how a player can lead the league in rebounds AND assists and be overrated....

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Ceres 64  
Years ago

Big sexy ... Such a hater

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Lukosius  
Years ago

To Big Sexy..... FYI.....

ByLaw 3.3.1 Regular Season Minimum
Each Club is required to have a minimum of eleven players on its playing list at all times and to have a minimum of nine players dressed, eligible and able to play for any regular season game.

I would guess EP asked for an exemption to suit up only eight players, but who knows.

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Big Sexy  
Years ago

LEL leads the league in rebounds cos he gets stuck CONSTANTLY on offense at the elbow then throws the ball off the backboard to himself and dumb stats ppl call it a rebound.. Call me a H8R all U want but I still think he and the other three seppos down there are a bunch of front running sooks who point tha finger at errbody but themselves when going gets tuff!
LELELELEL Mullenax was fit last year, not so much now.. The walking ego Hafford actually passed the rock last year, not become a black hole that his 2k15 version is.. Della has struggled with hair loss, a tidy missus, work issues so maybe he should retire.. Jackson only positive down there - prove me wrong!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bunno has 2 players that lead the League in empty stats. Brian the whiner and Ty "I will play myself 40 minutes to accumulate the stats I need even if we are up 35"

Great call Big Sexy

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Ceres 64  
Years ago

Magic can prove you wrong or right this weekend

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Big Sexy  
Years ago

Really Ceres.. wasnt aware that might happen aye LEL Based on your two posts, your either Gerovich or Della bored on a fri afternoon, or one of the talentless Mandurah juniors rather poorly sticking up for your centrelink handout for a club! Nunawading Spectres wanna kno why you copywrighted their logo then put diarrhoea stains on the side as well!? "Thanks Chalky" LELELEL

That's the BOTTOM LINE, cos BIG SEXY says so..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Project Thirty Four actually designed Mandurah's logo. Good input though Big Sexy you are a winner mate

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seems Big Sexy is another could've been who couldn't get a game in the Magic D League team. Nobody wants to read your hate motivated crap, so piss off.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Keep posting Big Sexy, you've hit a nerve

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big sexy is definetly big

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Big Sexy  
Years ago

Hey sorry guys I was wrong,

didnt mean any of it, I actually didnt make the SBL team to tell you the truth, well I made some games but never got on.

I do love basketball though.

I was extremely vulgar earlier, and I again apologise.

Lets go hawks this saturday!

Ill be the supporter in the diaper

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Thought I would re-post this from the SBL Forum, courtesy of Basketball35. A good read.....



FRIDAY

Tigers @ Slammers....Important game for both sides, Slammers can really lock in the 3rd seed with a home victory in this one. Assuming Ty is away gives the Tigers one less dangerous player to worry about. If Slammers can exploit there interior size with Weedon,Voelkel,Worthington then I think that can go along ways in the Slammers handing the Tigers a loss they dont need. Tigers would find themselves sitting at the 7th (BUCCS). No one wants to travel 4 hours instead of the quicker trip to Slammers (3 - 6 matchup). Tigers are more then likely set in the finals but where and who they play is a big mystery. Nichols / Armour will be a key matchup. In the May 2nd meeting 116-102 Slammers won at Willo seen Armour not play. Nichols took advantage and had 34 pts (6 THREES). Weedon and Harrelson both chipped in with 22. If Ty isnt in the country and they can control Clive with Davis/Cody/Easley then maybe they can make this a interesting , close game. I can see that but going off recent form, Willo losing to Stirling by 18 last weekend when also FRESH scares me. Slammers 115-105.

Flames @ Magic.... Another very important clash. Flames can still grab the 4th and homecourt vs Cougars. Magic on the other-hand can secure there own destiny if there to play basketball in August. Week 7 in April seen the Magic get a big win at Rocko. This will be a tight , physical contest that could be come down to the Rimmerswaal/Land vs Della/Mully. I think the guards will cancel out and depend on the interior players to determine the winner. Im predicting a upset here...Magic set for a big night as they get 6 players scoring and contributing...102-98.

Wolves over Lakeside.... Who cares.


Cockburn @ Gero.... Ankle injury kept Cooperwood out last weekend but Gero coasted to 2 easy victories. Now they return home to finish out whats been a crazy but then again normal season for Gero as of late. Lil drama but always W's. They will secure the 2nd see and now prepare for the QuarterFinals. Buccs are looking at a number of potential opponents going into this weekend...Giants,Tigers,Magic,Hawks. Cougars were happy to see Lane back in the lineup after a small scare from the reports..Great NEWS! They will have a tough run home with Buccs, Hawks. They could , maybe drop to 5th which would only mean they get GAME 1 at home..haha. Will Gero continue the good form with the likes of Ralph getting 25+ for ya and handle Cougars....YES, 114-94. Yes Cockburn beat Gero Wk 13 105-98...Keep Gero under 100 and you win will not apply to a fresh Buccs squad.

Magic @ Hawks.... Magic will I promise ya limp into this one, or I should say by the 3rd quarter they will be filling the pinch. Hawks, flying on all cylinders will be just hitting stride and if form remains the Hawks will role in this one. Magic have a chance? They could if they each dig deeper then they have all season and play defense. Im predicting Magic going 1-1 this weekend so still are alive going to face the Suns in the last week while Hawks would battle Cockburn who may not have any reason to win that particular game....could be interesting what happens.

Eagles @ Giants... Eagles come off two tough loses to Slammers/Hawks last weekend that seen them only suit up 8 players...Williamson missed the Sunday clash as well vs Hawks. No Dech is seems for the season? Vague have plans? Does he travel...surely. Going to be interesting who shows up on the BUS from Perth to face the GIANTS. Oh wait they then have to travel 35 more minutes to Kambalda to an stadium they have never seen or played in before. Giants have made this a tradition the last 3-4 years and have had overall success (2-1 I think??) Eagles rely on the 3 ball, Attempting 2nd most attempts in the SBL (1.Lakeside)...8th in 3PT MADE is the reason they struggle to score points. Giants to have a good night in front of some news fans...104-8

Perth @ Stirling... Stirling WINS if everyone plays for them.

Suns v Slammers...SLAMMERS

Basketball35

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Only front runner for Slammers is Nichols, with Ty away and Voelkel getting fouled out and Weeden/Worthington injured it was his time to stand up tonight and show what he is worth and responded with 5/20fg..

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Couldn't have said it better myself Anon.

I'm predicting a first-round exit for the Slammers. Injuries, coach AWOL, players self destructing.

Now they look like they will meet the Tigers again in two week - a team that has just smashed them by 30 at Eaton.

In fact I reckon the winner of the Buccs vs Giants quarter final series will make the GF, as they would be licking their lips at the prospect of playing either the Tigers or Slammers in the semis.

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Juno 14  
Years ago

Kevin Davis destroyed lakeside tonight with the biggest two hand reverse alley oop I have ever seen.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big sexy shaking things up I like it!

Wolves looking the goods tonight against lakeside. Davis with some huge dunks, one of the biggest dunks I've ever seen on poor Corey Martin who jumped to try and steal the alley oop pass.

Also this talk of slammers getting knocked out in first round is ludicrous. They were without their head coach and starting pg. He will be there come finals time. Also this crap about Voelkel being overrated needs to be put to bed. The guy is legit. Maybe not a real scorer but dominates the game. Perfect fit for slammers.

Magic on the other hand...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Martin had his hand on the ball and looked like he had stolen the pass. Davis plucked it right out of martins hand and threw it down two handed without even looking at the rim. One of the best dunks I've ever seen

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Juno 14  
Years ago

Somewhere Alex Wilson is smiling :)

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Oberon  
Years ago

Another loss to Magic
Can't see them beating hawks

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any chance of the Davis dunk footage being put on YouTube?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mick Cronin and grant lauterbach were taking photos at the game, if one of them got any pics of this could be a lock for picture of the year

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I seen a pic of Davis dunking on Keani Pinder that would be photo of th decade

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Anonymous  
Years ago

TAB has suspended betting on the Suns v Slammers game pending a stewards report .

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Hawks for premiers!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Josh Garlepp for MVP!

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Josh Garlepp hungry much?

what a fucking m8

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rinse  
Years ago

Voelkel is legit, and his stats on Saturday proved it, recovering from his fouled out performance on Friday.

29pts, 23rbs, 14 assists.

And I'm a Tigers fan

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The charge call which led the Voelkel's ejection was an absolute shocker. He carried on far too much, but that call alone should send that little ref back to the D-league for the rest of the season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great stat-padding game for Bunno. Win by 47 and play Brian the whiner 42 minutes and 39 seconds.

Even Nichols played over 43.

Way to play the bench guys.

While I'm at it, whoever the guy reffing with Steve at the Stirling game last night needs to be demoted.
One-sided is a kind way of describing his performance.

I vote we start up a fund to help Lackovic buy a book on Zone Offence, he sure needs one. Maybe the book store will offer a discount if we get him a book on how to defend the pick and roll too. 3 years of the same shit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Magic missing finals - biggest fail of the year considering their lineup? I would put good money on Jason Kyle not coaching next year

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No, Redbacks missing finals with their lineup is biggest fail of the year.
Maybe lakeside finishing 3rd last with their lineup is not far behind them
Magic going from top 4 mid season to out of playoffs a close third

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rinse  
Years ago

Rankings for the years based on preseason expectation. Grading them first through last if you will :

A+++ -Cockburn : we had them last. The 3 'experts' preseason had them last. They're fourth, and I'm sure no one wants them during the finals. Definitely #1 for exceeds expectations
A+ -Giants : most people wrote these guys off too and after seeing them in round 1, I thought they were pretty ordinary. Add Muo for depth and things got interesting.
A- Wolves : being predicted to go #1 is something, to back it up is another.
A -Buccs : as above
B -Slammers : they were the team to beat in the first half of the season, little bench capacity but still their starters tore it up. They've dropped off in recent time but as a whole, a good season.
B- -Flames : beat the teams below them consistently and lost to the ones above. A solid team and finished where we expected them.
C+ -Tigers : from here on we get to the disappointing season performances. The Tigers in 2015 were no trainwreck by any stretch (see 2014) but ambition was higher than 6th with the players they pulled. Vs Slammers will be interesting in the first round after splitting the season 1-1
C -Suns - a bit like a rugs'a'million closing down sale Ad, we're sitting here at the end of another season questioning if anything will actually happen in the Hills..
C- -Hawks - hopes were high when you saw a 7ft import centre and a decent player in Hobbs. Only one of those two came the goods and although they've had a great run down the main straight to the finish, it's still a net loss from the preseason expectation.
D - Stirling - probably should've/would've made the eight had it not been for Jordan Wild... certainly a fail for one of the God Squads, back to the drawing board, but they have a lot of young talent coming through.
D -East Perth - okay sure, Armour left, Muo left and Jervis was a maybe. But you don't go from SBL champions to cellar dwellers in one season. Just no. Vague is improving in leaps as is Dech. The old heads need to go and make room for some more young D league players IMO. Their season was done long ago.
D-Lakeside : Add a Div 1 star in Swing to replace Tinsley and a solid/similar player in Thomas for Palkert. Lakeside didn't really gel from the get go and never got a win streak going. For a team that put up 100+ shots per game regularly, thanks to Prue's rebounding, the eight should have been in the equation. Dixon and Jackson were non factors, but shining lights in Parkinson and Martin.
D- Magic : add Jarrad Jackson to a bunch of bigs who can finish at the ring, and you expect to be, 5th or 6th. Mandurah is on a massive slide and if they miss the post season then it's a bad year.
F. - Redbacks. ex NBA player, amazingly talented big man, and another late tall import + B Smith and all the usuals, and they didn't make the cut. The worst part is, we can't even blame the players, because it seems quite common knowledge from anyone with a basketball IQ, that the coaching caused oppositions to run all over the Redbacks in 2015. Want to get people though the door? Forget the clever marketing, new stadium and big names. Get a new coach.

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Big Sexy  
Years ago

#639.. LEL Not the REAL Big Sexy, your just an imposter, cant even get a spot on a WABL roster, trying to act like the real BS, when all you talked was lots of BS! Big Sexy thinks you need to take yoself back to hacking school and learn some new jokes.. and keep the funny stuff to us cool folk.. You just been told, in case you didnt know.. and thats the bottom line, cos Big Sexy told you so!
Voekel proving what a tool he is, getting thrown out because he didn't have his anger meds.. Ooooh he put up a trip dub the next night, you were winning by 40 and played 41 minutes two weeks out from Finals, no smart move Coach Van Lit LELEL Big Sexy also hears dat Coach Harrelson is not coming back either.. if they get thru the first round they wont b so lucky in the semis! And wheres my boy Ceres now?! Yo Magic choked on the weekend worse than yo mama did on my magic johnson last nite LEL

Big Sexy is OUT.. Enjoy YoSelf

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can anyone explain why Louis Timms went to the wolves? His numbers are basically 1/3 what they were at suns and he's getting 10-15 mins a game. I know he was injured to start the year, but he made the decision to move before the injury. For a kid with such a bright future trying to make the NBL why would he take a backup role

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Big Sexy  
Years ago

yo yo yo...

PS Bunbury have put together a very decent team this year and Harrelson here or not should be happy with that. I cant wait until suns tryouts next year because I just bought some Jordan 11's and they helped mike so why wont they work on Sexy. Voekel is an honets mVP candidate this year a shame tre and him are on the same team.

All the best for everyone before final.

god bless.

BS

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Kyle Armour seen rooting Chris Masten on the weekend.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Louis Timms drank the koolade!

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Tha REAL Big Sexy  
Years ago

Pffft imitation once again, you gets no love unless its from Men, you buy Jordan 11s for the thrills, cos Tha REAL Big Sexy knows you got no skillz! LEL Now go tell yo mama to take the Morning After Pill, otherwise i'll have to spank you like yo daddy should have, because yo phoney hacking attempts sure aint ILL! You steal my ID because you have no heart, tha most productive noise yo body has made lately was that sloppy fart, now go in a circled room and sit in the corner, cos you so dumb yo favourite NBL big man is Ray Borner! LELELEL

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Tha REAL Big Sexy  
Years ago

PS Whats everyones thoughts for finals? Bunbury surely are close to favourites, but what about darkhorses? ie goldfields and buccs?

Also can anyone give me a lift to the games, my car got yellow stickered....AGAIN.

TRBS lel

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bunbury favourites? You must be gargling bong water after brushing your teeth

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Peter  
Years ago

Wolves are the team to beat, the Hawthorn of the SBL.

Buccs - Not sure on Cooperwood's injuries but regardless he has missed too much basketball and wont have the fitness or form to give Buccs that little bit extra they need to get it done.

Slammers - Regardless if Ty returns or not his head wont be in it. They cant win it.

Cougars/Flames - Both on wrong side of the draw.
I would of given them some chance in a 1 off game against the Wolves in a GF, but not 3 game series without home court.

Giants - Good chance to make GF so that means they are a chance.

Hawks/Tigers - No.

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Dh  
Years ago

If you rate the coaches as to where the team finished Does that add up If Redbacks Suns Magic had a top coach ,would they be in finals ? Who are the top coaches and why

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Before I say how I think it will pan out - irrespective of who makes 8th (Mandurah or Perry Lakes - if Hawks beat Cockburn they are in, if they lose & Mandurah beat suns they might miss out pending on the head to head), the first round result will be the same.

Joondalup (1) defeat Perry Lakes (8): 2-0
Geraldton (2) defeat Goldfields (7): 2-1
Southwest (3) defeat Willetton (6): 2-1
Cockburn (4) defeat Rockingham (7): 2-0

Joondalup (1) defeat Cockburn (4): 2-1
Southwest (3) defeat Geraldton (2): 2-1

Joondalup defeat Southwest

CHAMPIONS 2015: Joondalup Wolves

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Before I say how I think it will pan out - irrespective of who makes 8th (Mandurah or Perry Lakes - if Hawks beat Cockburn they are in, if they lose & Mandurah beat suns they might miss out pending on the head to head), the first round result will be the same.

Joondalup (1) defeat Perry Lakes (8): 2-0
Geraldton (2) defeat Goldfields (7): 2-1
Southwest (3) defeat Willetton (6): 2-1
Cockburn (4) defeat Rockingham (7): 2-0

Joondalup (1) defeat Cockburn (4): 2-1
Southwest (3) defeat Geraldton (2): 2-1

Joondalup defeat Southwest

CHAMPIONS 2015: Joondalup Wolves

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Lukosius  
Years ago

The top-8 is set - Magic cannot make it.

In fact the top 5 positions are set, none of those teams can move from their respective positions.

The only thing that can change in the top-8 is that 6th, 7th and 8th (Tigers, Giants, Hawks) can shuffle around depending on results next week.

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

Hawks have a 2-0 (+40) H2H over Mandurah, suffice to say the Magic are now spectators for the Finals, regardless of results this weekend.

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Press Up  
Years ago

Anon re: Louis Timms' move.

Timms is a known product with a foot in the door. For him, it's not necessarily about playing 40mpg and averaging 20 & 10, it's about working and developing his game to get to where he wants to be down the road.

Being in a system like Joondalup with very good coaches and players he can learn from, is a lot more beneficial for him than playing in a rubbish system.

Ben Ettridge > John Triscari
Joondalup Wolves > Kalamunda Eastern Suns
Practicing against and Developing/Learning from Matacz/Huntington/Davis > Playing alongside Phillip
Winning > Losing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dh
Redbacks undoubtedly have a playoff level roster.

Whilst their coach can recruit well and talk a good game, he just hasnt been able to get them to play well together as a unit. I think in Redbacks case you put a different coach at the helm you get a much different result.

Suns have the weakest roster in the competition and a very experienced coach at this level. I doubt putting a different coach in charge here would change much.

Magic also have a playoff level roster but a rookie coach. Id say put an experienced successfull coach in charge of this group and they would have a different result.

Not having the cattle is one thing even a highly experienced or great coach cannot coach his way out of.

Recruiting a bunch of gun individuals is also not a recipe for success.

To be a successful coach you need to have a roster that can compete but you also need to have the ability to manage people in a group setting and motivate them towards a common goal, accept roles and bring accountability.

This is where I think Parsons and Heron have done exceptionally well in getting their teams to really play as a team.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

BWA have announced their new CEO with details on their website. We should all wish him well.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Watched the wolves play lakeside on the weekend and Timms looked like a fish out of water the entire time he was on the floor.

was driving into his own teammates and turning the ball over and couldnt defend anyone he matched up on.

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rinse  
Years ago

BWA CEOS looks to have a half decent résumé

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This Suns team is terrible this season. The loss on the weekend by 41 to a Slammers team who were coming off a huge loss the night before plus were missing three of their starters Harrelson Weeden and Worthington is an embarrassment.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I for one welcome our insect overlord CEO

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Something a bit different here. If every club were to retain their junior products what would their top 5 Aussies look like from current players in the league?

Ive given my best crack at this from memory but admit i will likely get some wrong. Feel free to correct.

Would be interesting to see if you were to add 2 quality imports to these core groups who you think would be the power teams of the competition?

Starting by ladder position:

Wolves
1. Matacz
2. Gates
3. Ironmonger
4. Easther
5. Welsteed

Buccs
1. Wrensted
2. Ralph
3. Wundenburg
4. Thurkle
5. Dann

Slammers
1. Worthington
2. Edwards
3. Hickert
4. Hitchcock
5. Richardson (Hawks)

Cougars
1. Davey
2. Field
3. Macintyre
4. Vague (Eagles)
5. Scott (Tigers)
*I cant recall if Della's from Cougars? also Daniel Thomas?

Flames
1. Godfrey
2. Bowman
3. Griffin
4. Roberts
5. Moore

Tigers
1. Armour
2. Clarke
3. Cody
4. Noordhoeck
5. Ballantyne (Giants)

Giants
1. Hurst? I have a feeling he isnt a Kal jr?
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?

Hawks
1. B. Dixon
2. Purser
3. Garlepp
4. Tupaea (Eagles)
5. J. Dixon (Lakeside)

Magic
1. Rimmerswaal (Flames)
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?

Senators
1. T. Illiadis (Wolves)
2. Salinas (Wolves)
3. Huntington (Wolves)
4. Timms (Wolves)
5. Ellis

Redbacks
1. Wagner
2. Smith
3. Johnson
4. Cassir (Hawks)
5. Jackson (Magic)

Lightning
1. Martin
2. Parkinson
3. Jackson
4. Prue
5. Bell

Eagles
1. Dech
2. Bruton? (cant remember if he was EP or Hawks?)
3. Dinardo
4. Dongalic
5. Pass

Suns
1. Questel (Wolves)
2. Nelson (Redbacks)
3. Zornada (Eagles)
4. Diaz
5. Horn

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Anonymous  
Years ago

lol @ the joondalup senators

or is it the stirling wolves??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yeah dellas and Dt are from cockburn products as juniors.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Hurst was a Cockburn junior too.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Missing Throns Iliadis littirick Woodbury from Stirling.

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nelg14  
Years ago

Should we be including juniors who have moved on to play NBL?

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nelg14  
Years ago

apologies. just read the original post correctly.
disregard the last question.......

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Daniel Thomas' original junior club was actually East Perth (if I remember correctly), before moving to Cockburn.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Actually scrap that it was Kalamunda

CN

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Anonymous  
Years ago

it could be argued that Rob Cassir played at willetton as a junior before redbacks

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oi  
Years ago

By the looks of the Joondalup Senators, they would likely be the powerhouse. Add in the players who are still at Stirling in Throns, N.Iliadis, Woodbury and Littirick as well as 2 imports and that is quite a stacked team!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

plus Caleb Davis^

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ryan Smith from Hawks for Slammers

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes forgot Davis. Fair bit of talent there. Even add Lewis Thomas to that group even though he isn't playing ATM

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ben Purser first played at Willeton.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It also raises some questions on what some clubs are doing in their juniors?

Kalgoorlie once upon a time produced some pretty good SBL talent. They have nobody in current rotations in ANY club that they have produced as a junior?? Miles Tierney was listed with Hawks but hasnt played.

Also looking at Magic, who else outside Rimmers is a Magic product?

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Damian Scotts dad used to be a pastor at the Lakeside church, he played his first years there

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Ben Purser at Willetton?? he's a Hawks boy through and through since his WABL days. Where's this anon getting his info...

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koberulz  
Years ago

it could be argued that Rob Cassir played at willetton as a junior before redbacks
When was this? I've seen multiple people make this claim, but absolutely no indication that it's at all true.

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rinse  
Years ago

It really comes down to 'when' they become a home product. Is it at domestic level? Or WABL... Because Cassir did play domestic at Willetton, as did Jarrad Jackson, Ashley Stephens, Jared Zornada, Dinardo, Kerrord Horn, Hayden Bell and Rhys Vague.

What shot Willetton in the foot was not holding onto these kids when they got cut from tryouts, so they went elsewhere. Long history of politics at the Boulevard. Fantastic Junior program though , I think it's the biggest (300+ teams, and they play 2 seasons)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DT spent his junior years at cockburn then moved to east perth for a few then back to cockburn if i remember correctly. East perth had a great team bojan, dt, westerhout, cam murray, justin james and always versed Willetton with Cam tovey, hayden slayman, justin wilson, stuart irving. Rocko had good squads too with bowman, hughes, gorman and others.

What other junior teams back in the days were stacked???

I remember a willo team with almost the entire starting 5 of a state team a few years above playing u/18.

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koberulz  
Years ago

It really comes down to 'when' they become a home product. Is it at domestic level? Or WABL.
WABL. Playing in a domestic league that happens to be run by Willetton isn't at all the same as playing for Willetton.

What shot Willetton in the foot was not holding onto these kids when they got cut from tryouts, so they went elsewhere.
What else are they supposed to do? Hang around and not play for a year in the hope they somehow get picked the next season?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Ben Purser at Willetton?? he's a Hawks boy through and through since his WABL days. Where's this anon getting his info..."

From the horses mouth. U/14 Tiger.

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Watcher  
Years ago

Ben Purser always at Perry Lakes and Rob Huntington was Kalamunda originally until he was told he had to go to Stirling if he wanted to make the State Team in U16's or thereabouts. Also not sure if Tommy Remmerswaal wasn't originally Bunbury? Maybe the league needs to look at protecting clubs who spend time coaching juniors. Now it is Wildcats coaches and money even though there is supposedly a salary cap that is luring juniors to other clubs and not being loyal to their home club. Or maybe clubs should have to have so many of their own juniors playing SBL so that they do not continually poach from other clubs and buy premierships. Some clubs have no development in place and just rely on the money they can throw around to buy an SBL team. The funniest thing I have read is that Damien Scotts dad was a pastor at Lakeside. Obviously that is supposed to be a joke :)

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

Kyle Armour played for Mark Cain's pubic hair.

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koberulz  
Years ago

Or maybe clubs should have to have so many of their own juniors playing SBL so that they do not continually poach from other clubs and buy premierships.
It'd have to be a pretty low number, though, or you're going to end up limiting where players are able to go if they do want to leave their junior club for whatever reason.

And then how do you define 'their own juniors'? If someone plays for one club almost their entire junior career, and then plays their last year of U/18s for a different club, do they count for the first club, the second club, or both? You can't really place too many limits on adult players that result from decisions made when they were ten, but if they count for the second club in that case it largely defeats the purpose of the rule.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Or maybe clubs should, rather than complain that their juniors left, spend some time and effort into creating an environment where junior players actually want to stay and represent their club - not leave at the first chance. There is a reason why Stirling and Kalamunda have lost the amount of players they have. Their SBL programs aren't exactly encouraging.

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Watcher  
Years ago

And as I said before you have coaches promising Wildcat careers or state team selections or the richer clubs throwing money around which would definitely not come under any salary cap. Sorry not too many juniors are going to stay at a club where they are not getting paid when another club is offering the world. There are a lot of SBL players out there at the moment getting paid who should not be as they have not done their time yet or proven themselves at this level.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Barely any local players actually get paid outside the a few starters of suburban teams and big market country teams,

and if they do who care thats great... country footballers get paid for being tall and being able to walk. This is the top league in western australia and although thats not saying much it takes up alot of your time. The more players that get paid the better it just means they can approach basketball professionally rather than rocking up each week.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where i think it is a problem is when clubs throw money (or other perks) around to recruit players in over developing their own SBL talent.

It kind of defeats the whole purpose of having an elite pathway for players within your club if you arent investing in developing your own talent to an adequate SBL level. In addition to this if they are developing talent, but recruiting in over the top of their own players it creates scenarios where those players have no choice but to explore other opportunities.

Look at a kid like Josh Throns. Had absolutley zero chance of being considered in the SBL program at Wolves which is his junior club. They recruited in guys like Trian, Seb and Robbins over him. He goes to Stirling and averages close to 20ppg in his rookie season showing he is one of the brightest young talents in our league.
Throns was not actively recruited there or offered promises or money. He didnt take anyones spot at Stirling given half their junior program moved up to Kalamunda when Kuhn took over and Don relocated there as well as Wolves opening up the chequebook to take all their elite players.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Heres a good question for you all.

If Giants were to face Buccs in the first round of playoffs and knock them off, does Haney enter the race for Coach of the Year?

Pretty remarkable run by the Giants in the second half of the season. Barring them losing those first 8 games where they were still finding themselves and also dealing with the Franich injury they have performed like a top 4 side.

Since the 0-8 start they have gone 13-4 and likely to finish 14-4 after this weekend.

They knocked off Cougars twice (Parsons has featured strongly in the COY discussion), Magic twice (when they were a top 4 side earlier in the year), Slammers, Buccs and Flames.

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

IMO if Parsons doesn't get COY, then surely Haney has to be a lock for it. Etto and Hez have the roster talent to be where the current ladder position is, but as highlighted by Anon aside from the teething problems Mike had up in Kal, their back end of the year has been nothing short of outstanding. Muo could be the recruit of the year given he wasn't anywhere near as consistent or productive in his time at EP than what he has done this year.

What a quarter finals series that would be >> You'd expect very limited standing room only at both regional venues if it indeed does turn out that way.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I agree Haney would be in consideration for the COY award.

Not sure how its awarded but I would consider the below.

Comparing wins is probably not the criteria I would look at in deciding this but instead I would be looking at the following
Budget vs. Performance (Ladder Position) Vs. Expectations (Pre-Season)

So this to me would look like this:

Giants - 70k Budget - 6th or 7th - Finals
Wolves - 70k - 1st - 1st or 2nd
Cougars - 0k - 4th - 14TH
Buccs - 70k - 2nd - 2th to 4th
Slammers - 70k - 3rd - 2th to 4th

Crazy I know but the award can only really go to one guy based on this information and that is Matt Parsons from Cockburn.

The only other guy based would be Ettridge as he has his team on top.










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Anonymous  
Years ago

I agree Haney would be in consideration for the COY award.

Not sure how its awarded but I would consider the below.

Comparing wins is probably not the criteria I would look at in deciding this but instead I would be looking at the following
Budget vs. Performance (Ladder Position) Vs. Expectations (Pre-Season)

So this to me would look like this:

Giants - 70k Budget - 6th or 7th - Finals
Wolves - 70k - 1st - 1st or 2nd
Cougars - 0k - 4th - 14TH
Buccs - 70k - 2nd - 2th to 4th
Slammers - 70k - 3rd - 2th to 4th

Crazy I know but the award can only really go to one guy based on this information and that is Matt Parsons from Cockburn.

The only other guy based would be Ettridge as he has his team on top.










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Anonymous  
Years ago


Cougars have two imports so budget would be above zero.
COY should be between Haney and Parsons IMO.
Would Nix be considered, had a poor start and ok finish?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cockburns imports do not get paid by the club or a sponsor. They are both here on working visas. So cockburns budget is $0

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Haney: first year coach working with money, taken team from wooden spoon to finals contention, almost completely new team from last year, team's best Australian goes down with an ACL injury in week one, integrates a high-usage player (Muo) into rotation, records wins over cockburn, gero, bunbury and rockingham. pulls off unlikely run to the finals.

Parsons: first year coach working with no money (pretty sure the yanks aren't being paid), takes team from missing playoffs to top four throughout the season, loses Scott, Vague, Chan and Holmes in the offseason, retains the best Aussie in the league, gets back Davey and McIntyre, flogs gero in gero.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cockburn beats Gero x 2, Wolves, Slammers, Flames only top 8 team they did not beat is Giants.


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cockburn beats Gero x 2, Wolves, Slammers, Flames only top 8 team they did not beat is Giants.


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where do Cougars imports work???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

COY should be Parsons. The three teams above them are loaded with talent and $$$, Cockburn have done wonders with their locals and no $$$. Haney would go close but Cockburn's win/loss record should seal the deal for Parsons. If Ettridge wins it, the system is floored.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

What a lot of people don't remember is that almost everyone (including myself) picked the Cougars to finish low down the ladder based on what we all thought their team was going to be.

And at the time the word coming out of Cougarland was that they were only going to play one import in 2015 (Lane) and that import really didn't come with any serious raps.

This apparently was confirmed at the pre-season tournament when only one import was seen (Lane) and he didn't even play.

In fact it appeared at the time that the Cougars 2015 roster was only going to feature two players over 6-4" (Field & Stanley), hence a lot of people were writing them off, and probably deservedly so.

Their round one loss to Lakeside, while playing with only one import, further gave us all the assumption that only one import was going to be used in 2015 and thei season was going to be mediocre at best.

Then out of nowhere comes second import Eric Milam from round two onwards and their fortunes change.

Though not an out-and-out allstar, Milam is still a handy big man accumulating 22 and 8 for them. He's a journeyman who has played all over the world and has added the extra size and length that we all thought the Cougars weren't going to have.

So we shouldn't be surprised that they are a better team than we first thought, and maybe we should have revised our preseason predictions once Milam had played a few games.

Then we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.

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Hawks would have to come into consideration if you are basing it on injuries and reviving a season. After round 9 concluded:

Giants sit in 11 with 3 wins & 8 losses

Hawks sit in 12 with 2 wins & 9 losses

Both had key injuries and Hawks played with only 1 import (technically still do).

Ettridge has clearly done a fantastic job, he recruited well and sowed up 1st with rounds still to play.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's not based on injuries and reviving a season though. It's based primarily on record. Which is why Haney and Nix have no hope of winning it... You can't just make the 8 and have the coach of the year?

It has to be Ettridge or Parsons. Historically it's gone to the best Record (Stewart) or a team that has performed better than expected and produced a great record (Parsons)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Recent coaches of the year:
2014 - Mark Utley
2013 - Andy Stewart
2012 - Jason Chalk
2011 - Andy Stewart
2010 - Andy Stewart
2009 - Andy Stewart
2008 - John Gardiner
2007 - Andy Stewart
2006 - Steve Charlton
2005 - Shayne Hampel
2004 - Shayne Hampel
2003 - Shayne Hampel
2002 - John Gardiner
2001 - John Gardiner

In the years Andy won, his teams finished the regular season first every year, as did Johnny G's teams.

Chalky's fifth place finish is the only recent time a team has over-achieved for the coach to get the nod, although you could argue Utley taking his squad from 11th in 2013 to 2nd the year he won as exceeding expectations, but he did have the league MVP so that does help.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So what if Giants were to knock off the higher seed in the first round? which in my opinion on their current form is a high probability. Particularly if they play Buccs.



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Anonymous  
Years ago

Award is only valid for regular season

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swegsma  
Years ago

#8505 you ain't seen em working at yo house late at night?!?! HA GOT EEEEEEEEM

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Parsons has coached at eagles before for one year !!
but parsons or Haney should win it no question about it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bryton Hobbs for crying out loud pass the ball!!!

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Dh  
Years ago

Noticed team not too keen to pass to Hobbs Better sort that out

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hobbs for coach of the year!!!
It's Hobbs v everyone
Doesn't appear to have much respect for many of the sideline decisions . Haven't seen him look at the coach once in s timeout.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Spent too much time complaining to the refs, shooting the ball and looking completely uninterested in D. He will hurt them in the first round

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hobbs doesn't display a good attitude on court or around the bench. However, he did get 37 @ 44%, 9 rebounds and 7 assists.
He played D on Lane and Davey who got 28 between them.
Cougars bench were into him all night about D, they should have thought to mention that to Lane.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hobbs = perfect Chris Pike import!!

"(insert name) did all he could with (insert great INDIVIDUAL stats), despite the loss"

Seen it all year ...Turner, Philip, Swing...

Great players in their own rights.

Team players??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lane is leading the league in steals. Sounds like he plays pretty decent D to me.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Homegrown dishes the rock, just usually to da other team!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And then blames his teammate afterwards

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And then sulks around the court / on the bench

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Slammers should be very worried for next week when their only scoring comes from Voelkel and Nichols (mainly). If they have a repeat of Voelkels foul out performance, they'll be out first round...

Tigers finally pulled a good game together last night, played their brand. Davis got rebounds, Scott scored, lots of fast paced running basketball.

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Dh  
Years ago

IsTy back for the finals No coach no win Proof of the difference a good coach makes to a team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

With Voelkels ejection J Prue takes out the rebounding title. Off the bench for most of the year.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Season-high 32 rebounds to Prue last night in what was his last ever SBL game. And it was a legitimate 32 boards.

Lightning coach Dave Olley announced it was both Prue's and Brad Jackson's last games.

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Lukosius  
Years ago

Isn't that Voelkel's 2nd ejection in the past 3 games?

Must have been a night for it. Lakeside's Luke Thomas also get sent to the changerooms after two techs. Then got a 3rd after giving the refs a further spray while being led out. Funny stuff.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Voelkel must be off his meds now, no Ty, no control

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Round 1 predictions ?
Wolves Hawks
Buccaneers Giant
Cougars Flames
Slammers Tiges

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Round 1 predictions ?
Wolves Hawks
Buccaneers Giant
Cougars Flames
Slammers Tiges

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Anonymous  
Years ago

With Prue taking out this years rebounding title he now finishes his career having won the league leading rebounder 10 times. Last night he showed he is going out at the top of his game. His 32 boards were hotly contested most of the time up against 2 or even 3 giants players on his own and he was still ripping them down.

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Dh  
Years ago

Hawks Giants Cougars Slammers

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Dh  
Years ago

Whoops wolves not Hawks

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Willo hitting stride now, favourites to win it all.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Only chance Willo have is if Ty doesn'y play. If he does will be a sweep.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^ Weeden out with ACL aparently?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wolves Buccs Cougars Tigers

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Weeden out with ACL on Saturday so doubt he gets up.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

As talented as Nichols is, they cant do it without Weeden & an intermittent Harrelson.

Changing my prediction to a Joondalup v Geraldton Grand Final which seems inevitable at this stage.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think Cockburn is second best team, just on wrong side of draw

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Prue finishes on 5998 rebounds

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cockburn very unlucky to finish fourth and have to potentially face Joondalup in the semis

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cockburn are tough !!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hawks 2-1
Gero 2-1
Cougars 2-1
Tigers 2-1

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Fixtures are already up, impressed. Thought it might take a few days to sort it out.

Wolves 2-0
Gero 2-1
Cougars 2-1
South west 2-1

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What a joke!
Scheduling women's finals on a Friday night at 6.30 pm!!
Way to showcase the league!!
Guarantee Hawks pushed for that one, and the friends upstairs bowed down.
Hope Tigers smash them!!!

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Hogwash 51  
Years ago

Feel for the Joondalup girls who have to be in Bunbury for a 6:30 tipoff on Friday night....what a masterstroke!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can't find the Finals fixtures, can someone tell me when the Redback men play?

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Lukosius  
Years ago

WSBL game in Bunbury on Friday night is actually scheduled for 8.00pm, not 6.30pm.

Also all clubs had to approve the fixtures so I don't think anyone is complaining.

The Hawks vs Tigers WSBL game is at 6.30pm on Friday night because the mens game is at 8.30pm.

And the reason they are on Friday night is because the Tigers men play Saturday night at home. Thus enabling the Tigers womens team to watch the men.

Common sense fixturing really.

I laugh when people start complaining about things like this. The Buccs are having to take the whole of Friday off to travel up here to Kalgoorlie by bus. Don't think they're whinging too much.

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Phobos 25  
Years ago

So if the womens game in Bunbury is scheduled for 8:00 what time is the mens game on Lukosius??

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What up  
Years ago

Men are at Willo saturday night!

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Phobos 25  
Years ago

oooooh..sorry ....my bad!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

2 days off to prepare for Giants...Buccaneers in 2 for me.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What about two days travelling to prepare for the Giants.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Um, that's what I just said...

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rinse  
Years ago

Amen to Lukosius. Every season keyboard warriors bash BWA for failing to get fixtures out on time. And now it looks like Bowler has covered all the bases with the teams and produced a half decent fixture in record time. Getting all the feedback from the participating clubs and merging it isn't easy.

Well done for getting the draw out early BWA. Good luck to all teams.

Word has it Harrelson may not return to finals due to cost of flying him back. With Weeden out too, the Tigers should take it out 2-0, but will probably go to 3.

Wolves far too strong, 2-0. They won't let the Hawks walk over them twice in a season.

Cougars should take out the Flames, Land will have the edge on Milam, Lane on the smaller Land. But Gav Field has Remmers covered.

Buccs Giants is for me , the match up of the first round. Two country associstions going at it, good luck to people trying to enter 10 mins before tipoff. Carter Cook had a good game on the weekend, and they'll need him to step up. I think this game will be won on the boards, Cook, Wundenberg, Coooperwood and occasionally Lewis should have Holmen covered.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nothing wrong with the fixtures if you ask me. Tough for teams like Rocko and Cockburn who play each other in the mens and womens draw. At least they have done the right thing and scheduled the women for a Fri night in Cockburn and the men on Sat night in Rocko so each get a crowd for game 1

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Nic Cody out for the season with a torn bicep. Wow.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Has he done anything worthy of a mention this year?

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Hogwash  
Years ago

The way the Slammers and Tigers are going with injuries/availability etc etc, the winner of the Buccs/Giants will probably be one of the grand finalists.

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Last post was lie....Nic Cody has no biceps.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Classic Pike/Hobbs!!

"Bryton Hobbs did all he could to try and keep Perry Lakes' winning streak going heading into the playoffs with 37 points, nine rebounds, seven assists and three steals"

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A few more weeks of Pike's crap and then it will be over!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pike did all he could to do the write ups this week with no knowledge of the actual game, no attendance at any games and grand master level of copy and paste skill on the computer

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rinse  
Years ago

Nic Cody is not injured. Don't believe all you read on here guys, the kid had a split eyebrow that's all.

And yes, Nic Cody has been a very strong player all season.

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Peter  
Years ago

Game 1 predictions.

Wolves v Hawks

Hawks have done very well to secure that 8th seed, but not really much of a reward to face the red hot Wolves in the first round.
Forget last time they met, Wolves have the clear advantage all across the floor.
Hawks just do not have the talent to match the deep Wolves.
Wolves by 20pts+

Buccs vs Giants

Buccs with 3 losses from the past 6 games.
Im not sure where Cooperwood is at, not at 100% and hasnt played enough to gel with the team or get his fitness up.
Giants in great form and at home I see them getting the win.
Giants by 10pts+

Slammers V Tigers

Slammers big advantage all year was having the 4 "imports" and if they can now only suit up 2 then they are back down on a level playing field and Tigers sweet the series.
If Ty plays then series will be close but with his head elsewhere, I think the Tigers by 10pts

Cougars V Flames

This is the series of the round.
Flames need someone else to step up and help C.Land with the scoring load, I dont think they can put up enough points to beat Cougars.
This will be a close game but the power trio for Cougars will likely be the difference.
Cougars by 5ps

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Prue finishes with 5998 rebounds"

of which 5028 of them were the classic Prue "tip"...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

His records will never be broken. Easily one of the best SBL players ever.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I agree. A very good SBL player with a special talent.

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ruddiger  
Years ago

Lien Philip (Suns) will return next year
Luke Thomas (lakeside) told not to

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I agree. A very good SBL player with a special talent.

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Metro Dech  
Years ago

Prue will forever go down as an amazing athlete and rebounder but also the greatest illegal rebounder in history.

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Yep  
Years ago

Care to elaborate metro dech

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Big Johnson  
Years ago

he pushes people in the back every time and all the refs suck his dick

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Metro Dech might be one of the many who tried boxing Prue out but couldn't.

I've never heard of an "illegal rebound" before. Is that even a thing?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think an illegal rebound is in the same category as sour grapes and learn to box out. it will be a very long time before you will see someone like Prue in the league again.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Glenn Ellis SBL playing stats:
STIRLING 1989-1990 - 47 games, 827 points @ 17.6 ppg
SWAN CITY 1991-1994 - 88 games, 887 points @ 10.1 ppg
SWAN CITY 1996 - 5 games, 5 points @ 1.0 ppg

How then did he win WSBL Coach of the Year in 1992, 93 and 95 ?? Any one know?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

during one game a few seasons back we had our assistant keep tally of all the rebounds prue grabbed. By half time he had 17 which is outstanding however on the stat sheet they had him down for 24.

End of the day regardless of what people say Prue is a legend of the SBL and a rebounding machine. He does the little things in a game of basketball that all teams would love to have.

Good luck in your new ventures.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Illegal rebounder, what a joke.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Illegal rebounder no, crybaby yes. Either way a great stalwart of the game and will be missed massively by Lakeside

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Prue also averaged 10ppg at 70% from the field for his career.

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Big Johnson are you Josh Garlepp's ugly hair do?

Cry baby bitch ass.

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Josh Garlepp  
Years ago

Na not me, Prue is legit obvs

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'll second the dodgy stat keeping... #HOMECOOKING

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I was at the Kalgoorlie game on the weekend and was tracking Prue's rebounds after halftime as he had 20 something by then.

by my count he actually had 35 rebounds but ended up with 32 on the stats sheet.

I dont think there are any conspiracies involved, just that human interpretation is invloved. The ones where Prue tips it to himself, maybe seems to gain control before flicking it out to someone else, who gets the credit? Some statisticians might rule Prue had control therefore gets awarded the rebound. Some might see otherwise. Even while I was tracking his rebounds there were some that were 50/50.

Instead of making up crap about people gifting him rebounds and that his achievements arent legit, lets appreciate one of the best SBL players of all time.

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Little Johnson  
Years ago

I would disagree. Prue is a good player and one of the greatest rebounders the league has seen but one of the best players ever? That's a stretch.

Anyone who plays 48 mins in lakesides system where you're role is essentially to rebound and screen, would be disappointed not to average at least 15 rebounds a game.

Lakesides success in the past was built more on great coaching and the play of 2 legit imports. Sure Prue (and other role players) enabled them to play that way to a degree but as seen in lakesides results the past two seasons, it takes more than rebounding to win games.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Classic Pike

"The Hawks looked all but out of playoff contention at 7-12, but then won eight of the next nine matches to qualify for the post-season after missing out in 2014"

No they didn't.
That would give them 15 wins and 13 losses - only 26 games in a season.

Hawks are also the only team with a losing record in the finals. A simple glance at the ladder would show this.

Once again, he did all he could in writing this article.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Little Johnson

I guess Rodman shouldn't be considered one of the greatest NBA players of all time, shouldn't be in the hall of fame, shouldn't even be in the picture because he played alongside Thomas and Dumars and had a great coach in Daly. Shouldn't be even considered for his complete domination on the glass playing alongside Jordan and Pippen and being coached by Phil Jackson.

And for the record Lakeside finished in the top 4 last year and made the semi's... I don't think they had a losing record to achieve this? I also wonder if Prue averaging 25 boards a game had anything to do with that?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pike did all he could in the 3 minutes he dedicated to the write up this week. He averaged 25.5 cut and pastes and used the calculator as many times as he could, but in the end came up short

... Again

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And according to Pike the women's top 8 was already decided before the last round of the season......also incorrect. If he bothered to do some research he would have known that East Perth had the head to head on Cockburn, so if EP had beaten Joondalup, they would have knocked Cockburn out with their loss to PL. Investigative journalism at its finest. In all seriousness though, I hope BWA does something about their media coverage next year. It just doesnt look good having someone report on games who has never actually attended one this year. What are we to expect for the grand finals if he doesnt show???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A Stewart said publicly a number of times Prue's rebounding was the main reason that allowed them to play their style of game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Playing in that system does allow you to get a lot of rebounds, as you are more often than not in a good offensive rebounding position, but Prue's ability to run all day, combined with his strong legs, super long arms and impeccable timing, means he gets about six or seven more a game than if another player was the man the spot.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Prues strong legs"

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Go follow @Dammithayds on Instagram for some topless fun.

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Good Luck tonight Bunbury!

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Lexington Steele  
Years ago

Good luck Willo, you're going to need it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perry Lakes are gonna need it more like it

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Wolves very lucky to get that win, Hawks deserved it the way they fought that out. Longest 2.8 seconds ever

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hawks need a clock operator who is under 75yo. Would have won it if they started the clock when the inbounds pass was received.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Hawks need a clock operator who is under 75yo. Would have won it if they started the clock when the inbounds pass was received."

Bahaha! So true.

It was hilarious to hear the Hawks faithful complain about it 'being a long 2.8' seconds. You're at home with your own stats/bench people!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hobbs refusing to shake Wolves hands at the end of the game. Class act.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perhaps if Garlepp had either

a) Jumped

b) Put either or both his hands up

c) Boxed out properly

d) all the above

Then PL would've held on.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

hawks were robbed,

they get one back saturday...

sunday is up for grabs

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JG  
Years ago

Yer u right anon, cant argue with that.

S my D

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Anonymous  
Years ago

hawks were robbed and all that. if it was right and there was 2.8 secs to go, ive seen the footage and done the old stop watch and it was a legit last shot (don't follow either team FYI)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tommy woulda gotten the rebound eh josh

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JG  
Years ago

Most Likely,

we would have also been up by 20 though,

as he would be MVP of the league.

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breezy  
Years ago

hahaha actually very good point

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Anonymous  
Years ago

pity you wouldn't want him on the same team as you eh lel dont be jealous

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why doesn't Josh G have a sun tan?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

When does it get to the point where courtside announcers need to be told to stop making personal jokes about players mid game. Rockos announcer is shocking

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Hogwash 51  
Years ago

Some brilliant reporting here...No final score or margin and nothing about the on the buzzer winning shot at all??

And in the men's thriller on Friday night, the Hawks were able to carry on their tremendous form to end the regular season and lock in a playoff spot, and took it right up to the team that finished on top of the standings clear by three games.

Little separated the two sides all night in a physical, tense and hotly-contested battle, but in the end it was the Wolfpack who prevailed to take the one-nil lead in the series as it heads to Joondalup next week.

Trian Iliadis top-scored for the Wolfpack in the win with 21 points, eight rebounds and three assists with Rob Huntington adding 20 points and 12 board on the back of shooting 8-of-12 from the field.

Kevin Davis added 19 points and 12 boards as well for the Wolves while Seb Salinas contributed 13 points, five rebounds and three assists. Damian Matacz also had eight points and eight rebounds off the bench.

Bryton Hobbs again did all he could for the Hawks with 30 points, six rebounds and six assists while Ben Purser contributed 20 points, six boards and three assists, and Ben Dixon 10 points, three assists and two rebounds.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gotta love the Pikeartist

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Because he's spent his life in Tommys shadow?

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Wonka  
Years ago

Tigers lost the game last night, a game that was there's early. Up by 10 against a slammers that had Nichols(3), Voelkel(4) and Worthington(4) all on 3 or more fouls before half time.
Kyle armour once again refused to pass the ball or shoot it with the shot clock winding down, had about 2 turnovers there. The other 3 shot lock violations he would pass the ball last second so as not to rack up a turnover.
Ephrem Davis was atrocious from the foul line and slammers employed hack-a-Davis well.
With Harrleson in the team, Willetton won't get 2 wins in Eaton.

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Wonka  
Years ago

Theirs*

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Yep  
Years ago

Shot clock turnover is a team turnover not a personal one

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Lukosius  
Years ago

A shot clock violation actually gets recorded to a player as a turnover.

It's a judgement call made by the statistician who has to decide who was probably most at fault in causing the violation. So it doesn't necessarily get recorded to the last player who had the ball, but it does get recorded to someone.

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different  
Years ago

The flames vs cougars game was a defensive grind. Flames looked like they wanted it more. Field had a shocker/c land defence on him was frustrating him. Umpires let alot go. Milam missed freethrows hurt the cougars. Was in the cougars side of the crowd and boy oh boy did they wanna kill the rocko announcer.... i thought he was funny and im a cougars fan. Highlight of the game was lane on a fast break about to stuff it home and bowman pinning him against the back board. Yes bowman.... guy hasnt jumped in 5 years. Godfrey the x factor to this series. Cougars vets need to step up bad games by sheldon, davey,prince and van lit... still reckon they will win this series.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where has Brad Robbins disappeared to? Went to the quarter final on Friday and there was no sign of him. Someone at the game mentioned he hasn't played for a few weeks. Is his absence due to injury or another reason?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Robbo was away for work.
Rest assured he is back this weekend.

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Ben and Jerrys  
Years ago

Good riddance to Baskin Robbins I say. I don't wanna see another final being played with another dirty has been player. Robbins v Lakeside 2013, Tupaea v Buccs 2014

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Anyone think Geraldton can recover & win two this weekend against Kal?
Could be a tough ask. I definitely think it will go 3 games.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Robbins against Lakeside in 2013 was an embarrassment to himself and the club.

Gero can definitely recover at home. They were up in Kal and let the game slip. Cooperwood will play better at home not having to do the travel on an already unfit body. Would prefer Kal to get up though.

Rockingham game was a bit of a suprise, wasn't there but I guess Rocko's experience with so many veterans got them over the line? Good game from Pesava off the bench for the Cougars.

If Hawks had stolen the first game Wolves would have been very nervous in game 2, but surely it will be over in 2 now.

Slammers to win in 2, Willeton can't win twice in Bunbury.

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Watcher  
Years ago

I am also not a Rockingham supporter but at least their announcer is alive and kicking and gets the Rocko crowd involved. Not knocking other announcers as they are all volunteers but some might as well not be there!! Apparently the jokes re Gavin Field alias Shaggy were not appreciated but from what I have been told is that after the game Gav was in the Rocko clubrooms and stayed for quite some time after the game chatting to the Rocko players and supporters. Did not seem upset at all.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Aaron Ford is the best SBL announcer

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

As Watcher has said, Gav stayed for a fair while in our clubrooms afterwards. I went up to him just to make sure he wasn't offended and he said "No mate we are fine. I am sure people in the stands say worse to me under their breath. It wasn't negative just a reference and it was harmless'

I am sure if Gav's old man was annoyed to the point he wanted it stopped, he would have come up and told me so having known him for several years through WABL / SBL etc. I got on Gav because he IS their best Australian, and again - if I didn't know him off the court I wouldn't have done it. Same with the Princey incident which I have seen been told irked a few of the Cougars supporters. IF they were at the Stadium when Alex arrived with Cortney, we actually joked re the no booing etc on the microphone - we had a laugh and I said no but that beard might cop some flack. Again laughter and a nod from Cort but it was one comment, one he was well aware of and I even messaged him on FB later that night to make sure he wasn't offended. Same response from him as I got from Gav.

I think so long as you're not overstepping the mark, and if you don't know the players personally you shouldn't be saying much at all - then simple observations and comments are fine. C Rice grew up with me, knows what i am like on the microphone and I would never overstep the mark - it's not worth the hassle to be honest.

Have to agree with Anon - A Ford was the best in the business when he did SBL at The Church. The guy they have this year could certainly learn alot from him! You're there to engage the crowd and provide info in a mostly-unbiased manner. I think sometimes, especially in Finals, people need to remember you are there for your club to win so in a 'must win' situation it will be a little more biased than usual. Go to Kal or Gero - it doesn't get more parochial up there but again, it gets the crowd involved and thats why there were 1,000+ at Brookman St last Sat night and why there will be over 1,200 crammed into Eighth St this coming Saturday night >> Because they enjoy the game-night experience provided, and the Announcers are a big part of that.

For Anon who #540676 - I have a fair idea who you are and again you're entitled to your opinion. But I do know neither Gav or Princey were offended and as stated above, I personally made sure of that post-game. I do apologise if it affected your game night experience down at the 'Ham though! Regards, TY

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

The PC brigade out once again.

Everyone wants entertainment, banter, conversation buuuuuuut not about them or their Team.

Can't have it both ways.

Keep at it Trav, you're one of the few people that say things out in the open and also will talk directly to anyone that wants to talk.

Banter is good, chuckles are good.

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easty  
Years ago

go hawks

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Lexington Steele  
Years ago

AF easily the best announcer.

Josh Garlepp are you an accountant? No joke or pun, just wondering as you dress like one. No disrespect.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Checking the Wildcats pics on Instagram and trying to see whos who???
Anyone know who got a training invite? (WA kids)
Think I saw Julian Pesava in one pic - great to see an up and comer getting a go!
I assume Vague would be there somewhere.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't think Pesava was there. Think that was Josh Throns you saw.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

both equally awesome salards

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Anonymous  
Years ago

three great ginger salards in throns, pesava and garlepp

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Lexington Steele  
Years ago

Hawks for the cup, prediction

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Poor prediction.

Doesn't really matter - Gleeson has a proven track record that they aren't overly interested in developing locals. They are merely training meat, which is disappointing.

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Wayne Simmons  
Years ago

BALLS AND ALL PEOPLE, BALLS AND ALL.

Wolves look very good. I like this time of year y'all, let's see some upsets people!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is your "Solo Groove" still in YouTube? I like to watch it every few years to lift my spirits.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is your "Solo Groove" still in YouTube? I like to watch it every few years to lift my spirits.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is your "Solo Groove" still in YouTube? I like to watch it every few years to lift my spirits.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rhys vague , josh thrones and Jordan wellstead I think I saw in the photos also a couple other !! Any ideas ??
They my be training meat but you have to remember that in the last few year of sbl some of the most improved players have been DP dech Scott I think field also won one and it proves that if you work hard enough you have a shot at the Nbl look at Greg hire he was DP before making the squad!
Vague was DP last year a had a great sbl season this year if wellstead and thrones make it look for them to have massive breakout years next season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I believe Corey Martin also attended

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Looks like Lewis Thomas (Perry Lakes/Stirling Junior) was there, looks like he's come back from college with a fair bit more muscle and a lot less hair (RIP hairline). Looks like Perry Lakes' Ben Dixon was down there too.

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Wayne Simmons  
Years ago

It's Solo Groovin' you cunt.

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StreetX  
Years ago

Wellsteed is dope, hope he goes to the US soon.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

I don't believe Wellstead is really that big a prospect if at all. But that's my opinion.
Thomas is already linked with the Redbacks. I believe he has even played some D-League games already?
They will all train & then they will bring in some odd eastern states choice (a-la Anthony Fisher).

Its the same story every year, train hard & 1 of you 20 guys might earn the only DP spot available, as the others have always already been ear marked for other pre-selected individuals.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good spot, He's played two D-league games for the spiders. He would be a handy piece to have, now if only they could figure out how to beat a zone defense.

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StreetX  
Years ago

Wellsteed definitely has the athleticism and shot. Just needs the aggression and attitude. Could do damage if he is taught the game well.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Clive Nicholls is a good prospect

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

I dont know where u get off anonymous, but I know, for a fact might I add, that I am a terrrrible prospect and infact always was. Hence why im such a butthole on forums

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Looks like I am being trolled for a second time by someone who thinks its funny to use my name.

The above comment isn't mine. Clearly I've hurt someone's feelings with an opinion.

Imitation is the biggest form of flattery I guess....

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StreetX  
Years ago

Looks like that happened to a few names on this thread Clive.

Big Johnson
Jake Burston's Mole
Lexington Steele

They all seem to be a victim of this if you look closely.

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StreetX  
Years ago

Wellsteed is hot

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wellstead and Throns have similar abilities. Throns has a more consistent shot but needs to attack more. Both would improve in the Wildcat environment.

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StreetX  
Years ago

And now I have been a victim to this copycat.

It's probably Josh Garlepp.

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Phil John  
Years ago

What happened to these threads, when Matt Hughes and I talked trash it was a lot better.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

5 reasons why the Giants will eliminate the Buccs from the Playoffs this weekend.

1 Giants are a tougher defensive unit
2 Bowie & Muo are a better combo than Lewis & Cook
3 Giants have a more balanced scoring attack
4 Giants have all the momentum
5 Giants are fitter, stronger, grittier, hungrier and are the only team in the competition who actually love playing on the Buccs home floor

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Anonymous  
Years ago

*only AWAY team that love playing on Buccs home floor

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cougars torched the buccs up there by 25 they might dissagre

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FIG JAM  
Years ago

Lewis Thomas a DP at the Cats??
What a joke!
Can't play defence to save his life and the worst 'all about me' attitude I've ever witnessed in basketball!!
God help us!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Announcers should take whatever advantage they can get for their home team, I know I have in the past. Love your work Trav keep it up

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Anonymous  
Years ago

only problem is cougs could very well be eliminated themselves this weekend

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I see the cougars bouncing back on Friday then it's just a 1 game series at Cougars home. That court is a horror to play on.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Not sure how you figured Kal have a more balanced scoring attack? They have Muo, Bowie & Holman. The rest of the squad barely get a shot off with the exemption of Hurst, but he is hit & miss as to what you will get on the night.

Buccs have more firepower with Lewis, Cook, Ralph, Cooperwood & Thomas all capable of throwing up heavy numbers.

Going to be a big two games this weekend (it should go 3 games).

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Phil John  
Years ago

Can we do an all ugly SBL team?

PG: Trent Gerovich
SG: Damian Scott
SF: Nic Cody
PF: Jaarod Holmes
C: Ben Smith

What are your thoughts?

Would actually be a decent team tho.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

rude, g team though

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Phil, we have no doubt you would be the first choice as coach.

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Tyrell  
Years ago

Holmen or Bowie for league MVP. Hands down!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who would be your all star 5?

PG - Nichols
SG - Hobbs
SF - Lewis
PF - C Land
C - Turner

In my opinion, one of the most talented all-star lineups in recent memory.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'd take copper land out and put Gavin field in you cannot have a all star five this season without field!!
He has has just been too good

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agree field needs to be in there. Also take out Hobbs and replace with Swing.

Hard leaving Voelkel out of this lineup

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nic Cody has the rudest head i've ever seen

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not to mention the guy can play

Probably more important than all of that is he is one of the most humble genuine people you will come across in the league

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Phil John always sucked, like actually always

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Giants to SWEEP Buccs in 2

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Anonymous  
Years ago

you did/do suck at basketball though, like hell bad

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Phil John  
Years ago

Say it to my face.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Guys seriously. Go down to City Beach and sort this out. Let's get back on topic. Big weekend in the MSBL this week. Kal on a roll, Wolves gotta win, Tigers gotta find consistency, Cougars must prove themselves. WSBL is a bit more straight forward. I can't see any of the teams that are down on those series getting up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers will wrap this series up in 2 provided Voelkel doesnt blow a fuse and get ejected
Giants and Wolves will also wrap their series up in 2
Cougars will win it in 3

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Anonymous  
Years ago

fiery clash at the den.

cougars not standing for the Lands shit.

hope cooper land get sited for pushing mcintyre into the wall well after the whistle was blown.

confrontation between the two teams after the shaking of hands.

game 3 is going to be a ripper

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dog act by Cooper Land. Sad that some of the Rocko fans think that Cockburn were the bad guys in all of this. Game 3 will be a cracker

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Classic Cockburn with the Live Stats fucking up.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

The Giants, 2015's East Perth Eagles. #7 seed defeating #2 seed. Lewis couldn't hit water from a boat tonight, 16 points majority from FTs... Bowie and Muo on the other hand, on fire! Impressive display from the Giants!

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

And to think Hawks could have been 2-0, Wolves on shaky grounds. Game 3 will be epic

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That game between Rocko and Cockburn was game 3 !!
What happened sound like a few fiery incidents

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Were the Cougars up 27 - 9 in the first quarter?

Hawks were down 16 in the second.

Wanneroo bench/timekeeper must be a Perry Lakes reject.


They didn't stop the clock and then they didn't start the clock. Maybe the clock malfunctioned.

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breezy  
Years ago

Go Hawks

Hobbs for president

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Luke Ford  
Years ago

Ben "Vac Clerk" Purser to the rescue.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Be aware of the #7 seed

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Be aware of the big bad wolf!!
Enjoy the offseason.
Maybe get a point guard who can pass to his team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anonymous 542219,couldnt care less about the Wolves or Hawks, post was referencing a previous post about the Giants attempting to do what the Eagles did from 7th spot.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You care...this is all you have...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Giants v Slammers - this quick legitimately go either way. Let's say Giants in 3 because Slammers looked a bit more shakier in their first round finals series
Wolves v Flames (2-0)

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gary  
Years ago

harrelson out this week

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers are done

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Luke Ford  
Years ago

Kyle Armour already talking about leaving Willo.

Lakeside a possible contender for his services.

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JG  
Years ago



Sources say his heart lies in floreat.

hey luke

btw this weekend was really fun thanks for everyone that came down.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Josh G should spend more time doing his hair and less time on Kevin Davis highlight packages...

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JG  
Years ago

Some of those dunks were sick, thanks for noticing my hair xo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wasn't hard, you stood next to Cassir a lot. Not sure whats worse, his 3 point shot or his hair line...

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Phil John  
Years ago

Cassir = Johnny Drama

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Anonymous  
Years ago

One thing about Cassir is that he can play, unlike youself Phil.

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Rod Cassir  
Years ago

Unlike me, Robbie does not have any "D" associated with his name

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JG  
Years ago

Robbie is an elite defender, great teammate, and has recently come off a knee reconstruction. I repect the wordplay though

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Someone on Joondalup just sneezed, can we please check that Mike Krummel is ok?

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MC  
Years ago

robbie c is a good good friend and i value his friend ship very very much friend for a life time

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Anonymous  
Years ago

wow some serious haters on here, i assume they all are people that dont play

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No, Josh Garlepp, Rob(d) Cassir and Krummel are all "players"... apparently

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They played, therefore are players, not sideline plebs wishing they were out there, no matter how much you think ur apart of the game ur not

CF

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Semi Final Predictions and Key players

Wolves v Flames
Wolves faltered against the Hawks. Bounced back and the 4th quarter Sunday was class.
Iliadis and Davis have been the anchors.
Rob Huntington is their key
Flames fought hard as expected in a 4-5 matchup. Experienced heads having been here last year will help.
Can Big Tom Remmerswaal play at a high enough level for long enough. He is the key.

Wolves in 2 tough ones.

Slammers V Giants
Slammers to state the obvious - Ty Harrelson is the key. Head coach and Point guard missing game one is to much to cover right now.
Giants - Can the Paddy Hannan Express keep rolling.
Muo has gone to another level. Slammers have no matchup.

Giants in 2, and very easily.

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No surprises there. Armour needs to learn there is no 'I' in TEAM. Won't be surprised if he ends up playing for every club in the SBL before his career is over - chasing rainbows!

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The Admiral  
Years ago

It will be a Wolves vs Giants grand final, and deservedly so.

Since round 7 these are the best 7 records....

Wolves 18-2
Giants 16-4
Cougars 13-6
Flames 12-7
Buccs 11-7
Hawks 11-9
Slammers 9-8

The Wolves have been the form team of the season, while you can forget the 0-8 start by the Giants - they have been one of the top-2 teams for two-thirds of the year.

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anon  
Years ago

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anon  
Years ago

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anon  
Years ago

Giants picked up with the arrival of Muo took some time to get going, he is the main reason for their turnaround.With the Giants up 1 game his freewheeling offence killed the Buccs.

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Phil John  
Years ago

I thought I was pretty good. So did my Mum.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Phillip, this is mummy. We all know you were no good so stop pretending and get back to work.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Some great banter in this thread, so many intelligent comments. Keep em comin'

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hi guys
I saw there is a "lost SBL" Facebook page.
Is it worth checking that to see if my jump shot is there?

Josh G is such a lad.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah can we talk about something or someone relevant?

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Anono  
Years ago

Wolves to win the flag.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Possibly

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wolves very lucky to advance. Dont count your chickens before they hatch Wolvlings

The boys from the Eastern Conference, Goldfields Giants, are shaping up as a real contender now that Ty has shifted his focus towards the next stage of his career.

If Slammers dont win game 1 out in Kal they will not win this series. With their head coach absent for this game and their lineup reduced from 4 americans to 2, I dont see them getting within 15 points of the Giants on their home floor.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers now have to play with 2 imports just like everyone else!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What is best for the league? If we put bias / sentiment etc. aside and consider if it's better to have a team like Slammers that effectively has 3 imports (not counting Ty as he's naturalized) and contends or a team like Suns who, with two imports, can still only win two games. Slammers were like Suns until they spent some money. Is it healthy for the league to have teams that are not competitive? Surely it doesn't help those teams ability to attract players or encourage junior development. Slammers are a bit different. Many developed juniors move to Perth. Not many local players will move from Perth to Bunbury just for SBL. Junior development down there is different also. Huge commitment needed from kids and parents to travel to Perth every second weekend. Some have to travel 100+ km just to train.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

"not counting Ty as he's naturalized" - Weeden is also naturalized, so...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"not counting Ty as he's naturalized" - Weeden is also naturalized, so...

Not trying to get into an argument about eligibility or anything of the like. Sometimes situations arise where teams get lucky with naturalized players etc. Just trying to begin discussion on weaknesses of the league and what would be best to fix it.

Should teams like the Suns be allowed a higher points score, greater salary cap etc.?

Should the league do something like equalization of funds, special conditions for country based teams who struggle to have juniors developed and those outer metro teams like Suns and Magic that may have a smaller population base to draw from?

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Hydra 49  
Years ago

And what about poor Perry Lakes. Really small population in their area due to the mansions being built on half acre blocks. Strong competition from other sports like polo and yachting. Private schools taking the kids on excursions to places like the Swiss Alps and French Riviera during the winter.

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Greeny  
Years ago

Kalamunda is an ageing area with only a small number of juniors that try out for WABL no competition for spots. Turn out for WABL trials and you'd have to be pretty unlucky to get cut, some teams only have 10 turn up. With kids coming from Gidgegannup, Sawyers Valley and Mundaring it amazes me that BWA have granted Mundaring a WABL licence, Suns and Mundaring would then both be struggling for numbers and weakening the competition further.
Suns need strong SBL teams that can get bums on seats with imports and local players doing some promotion at schools in the area.

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Hydra 49  
Years ago

season should be shorter to allow NBL level players and other league players to participate that will make teams better, making our league more enticing than the NZNBL, QBL or Big V.

Perry Lakes is the best club IMO

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Hydra 49  
Years ago

"Perry Lakes is the best club IMO"


They can afford to be.

Perry Lakes do have a strong junior comp and have done well in developing juniors. Not so good now with their SBL squad made up of players from all over. Getting kids ready for D League and then SBL is the key to having a strong club without following the Wanneroo model of chequebook success. Getting home grown juniors through to SBL is a key to maintaining junior development.

But, as stated above, you have to have junior numbers to start with. Also need good junior coaches who don't fill kids heads full of false hope and promises.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I agree with Greeny. More WABL teams is not a good thing with several clubs unable to field teams in some grades and some really poor teams through the whole comp.

I hope I'm wrong, but I would see Mundaring teams as being easy beats through most grades.


More clubs is not good for WABL and not good for SBL as it will dilute the current competition strength.

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Press Up  
Years ago

Greeny - "BWA have granted Mundaring a WABL licence".... surely this can't be true?

Hydra 49 - "Wanneroo model of chequebook success.."

Exactly. $40K-$50K split between 4 players before even getting to the import and other fringe players.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

isnt it funny, the same argument was used when Lakeside were applying to join WABL and obtain an SBL license.

In such close proximity to Willetton, the most successful junior club in the competition, and Cockburn who are also a well established club surely the Lakeside Lightning were destined for failure.

Does anyone question the decision to allow them into the League now?

Mundairing might actually have a bit more nouse than the people heading up Kalamunda. To me it comes down to the people running the show, leadership and direction as to whethere it ends up being successful or not. Who knows, maybe Mundairing providing some healthy competition in one of the biggest catchment areas of any club in WABL will spark them to get their act into gear.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Does Kalamunda and Mundaring really have a large catchment area. Large area obviously, but how many people compared to, say, Wanneroo or Willeton?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Next thing you know BWA will give a WABL License to Busselton or Margaret River if the Mundaring rumours are true! Where they DO need a new club is Butler / Two Rocks. JBA has too many teams as it is for their junior domestic competition and they repeatedly say no to new teams because of the lack of available court space. With the northern suburbs growing quicker than anywhere else in the metro area, and with such a large catchment area - this surely has to be the next area to base a WABL club out of, and possibly an SBL club in the not too distant future!

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Greeny  
Years ago

Kalamunda have a large catchment area but not a large population. Mundaring have been granted a WABL licence but don't have to field all age groups, don't know when it will start though. BWA could look at the growing areas of Butler, Mindarie or down the southern corridor, North and South is where the growth is not East.
Its good lakeside have prospered being so close to Willetton and Cockburn, but how many of the kids were Willetton Juniors. With different divisions being introduced in all the age groups, clubs like Redbacks, Suns, Cockburn and even Lakeside won't pick up kids that didn't make Willetton teams. More divisions are good but I feel probably more so for the strong clubs with huge domestic competitions. Hopefully for the good of the competition these clubs tell good young players that miss out that there are other clubs out there if they want to play WABL.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I agree with getting a new club under way north of Joondalup. Are there facilities to have games/training etc. in those areas?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If Kalamunda has such a small catchment in relation to population why do they have pretty much the biggest netball association in the metro area?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This is an SBL thread? Who could actually tell?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

maybe go to the SBL Forum, I hear its pumping over there

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well at least we seem to have gotten rid of the spineless, childish few who get on here and put shit on other people.

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Lexington Steele  
Years ago

We re still here

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

I still think Bunbury can get it done & take the series 2-1.
Joondalup to go 2-0 over the flames but not easily.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bunbury missing Ty for game 1 is huge, wouldn't expect them to beat Giants on their home floor (won 9 of their last 10 home games, including the game out in Kambalda over East Perth). Giants should win then take that momentum down to Eaton and make their first GF appearance since the glory days

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Anonymous  
Years ago

the only chance bunbury have of winning this series is to steal game 1 in Kal. Without Ty the odds are stacked against them.

Bowie
Muo
Holmen

Slammers do not have logical matchups for these 3. Voelkel can only guard one of them. Nicholls too small to defend any of these guys effectively.
Worthington highly foul prone. Kickert is not reknowned for his ability to stop anyone. Edwards while gallant is well past his prime.

Giants will win this series.

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Flipside  
Years ago

Look at the matchups the other way...

Nicholls - His eyes will be as big as dinner plates when he sees Giants PGS.
Giants cannot handle the middle PNR, poor rotations and bigs Zunic/Hurst avg 1.3 blks between them - no rim protection.
Hickert and Hitchcock will be getting wide open looks as Bowie and Muo have to help middle to stop Tre.
Zunic and Hurst are nailed to the keyway at both ends. Wortho with his 3 point shooting will mean when Nichols penetrates, slow feet can't get there, ofr wide open Wortho.
It then becomes a battle of the boards, and I reckon Voelkel wins that by himself.
Giants are a 3 prong attack, and its been running well.
I'd be making the 20%ers shoot the 3 ball- Santia, Forlano and even Holmen and double teaming Muo/Bowie.

Giants loss to PLH - a pg mis match and workmen on the boards.
Also - no logical matchups = Zone!!
Remember Gero last GF??

Then Ty gets back...or maybe he is already??

And as the old saying goes...momentum is great, until it stops.

Slammers in 3!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Unless Slammers have the 4 imports they dont win.
That simple.
Would Slammers play finals if they didnt have Ty or Clive all year?
No.
Giants easily.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers don't have 4 imports though.

Slammers in 2, just like the number of imports they have.

Tre drops 50.

Voelkel goes full tilt and gets a 20/20/15 triple double.



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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Has Weeden been totally ruled out of the playoffs?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Flipside is on the juice!

This is a no brainer and i cant wait until the Giants win by 15+ in game 1 to ask flipside and the clown above who picked slammers in 2 what happened.

Clearly you were not watching the last series Kal played in, too caught up in the moment thinking youve won it all with your 4 imports.

The Giants just swept, yes swept the Buccs. The Buccs actually match up mutch better to the Giants than the Slammers do, even with Ty.

From memory Slammers were lucky to even win game 2 on their home floor against Tigers who choked from the free throw line.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Looking forward to the hard men of Rocko playing the stray dogs of Wanneroo/Warwick/Kalamunda/Joondalup.

Stray dogs not too impressive against the Hawks. Rocko too tough for Cougars.

I predict Rocko to knock out the stray dogs in the third round if they can contain big Kev and keep him below the rim. Hawks had moments where their concentration lapsed and let Kev and the shooters loose. When a three game series is decided by a combined twelve points that's all it takes. Illiadis won't be treated as kindly on penetration and nor will Seb. Rocko need to have their help D on track and block out the stray dogs big leapers.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joondalup - Rockingham match up may be quite good if the refs don't get intimidated by Ettridge. He whined when the foul count was about 25 to 2 in his favour last week. To his credit, he had the refs calling it the way he wanted which is the reason any coach gets on their case.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No rim protection? Holmen and Exell average 2.5 blocks between them. And who is going to stop Bowie and Muo on defence? Hitchcock, Nicholls, Phillips? Giants should get game 1 pretty convincingly

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Flipside  
Years ago

They do. And that's great for your wings...

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Flipside  
Years ago

Well that's awkward....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good win minus Ty and Weeden Slammers!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

must admit wasnt expecting the Slammers to play the way they did, huge credit to them for getting the win in Kal tonight.

Great game that had a lot of twists and turns, in the end Slammers played the better ball when it mattered.

Again reminded me why I dislike Campbell, looks like an old man and reffed like one.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seems like Giants need to pay some attention to defense. There's an old saying about defense and championships.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

flipside was on the right side

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yup would have to agree, Defense was the key ingredient missing by the Giants, that and still not getting their rotations right throughout the match. Credit is with the Slammers for getting the W

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Flipside  
Years ago

Giants are a downhill team.
Momentum has swung.
The big three all did their thing on offense.
Unfortunately they can't defend.
They'll spend this week working on defensive rotations, however with Ty back, it all changes.
Expect the Slammers at home to be up and about!!!

PS - 1 block isn't rim protection

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Anonymous  
Years ago

prediction for game 2 Flipside?

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Flipside  
Years ago

Read my original post.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Happy my Joondalup v Bunbury prediction before the playoffs kicked off is a mere week out from fruition! :)

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

8=========)

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

^^ Shout out to my imposter as well I guess.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Actual size though

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

^^ Honestly mate. Its 2015. Trolling was cool two years ago. Now you just look like a dick even behind a moniker & keyboard.

Lame.

Anyways - back to SBL.

Anyone think Goldfields or Rockingham even have a chance to push a series to a third game?

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Hogwash 51  
Years ago

Rockingham NO CHANCE.
Kal - YES...Bunbury not that good so expect that series to go to 3 games!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Possibly Bowmans last game and the Lands also for the Rocko Flames.
Expect fireworks early and also if the game gets out of hand late!! Nothing to lose either way.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Land's planning to call it a day on their time in Rockingham after the season...??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Taylor Land would not last another season with how much he is hated in the league

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Taylor is a premier guard in our league. I certainly dont get the impression he is hated in Rockingham.

He plays tough, physical basketball but is a pro through and through. Why anyone would hate a player like this in our league is baffling.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perhaps because he is dangerously dirty? He's dirtier than Jo Allen and thats saying something.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

anyone who watched the cougars series know it was him starting all the crap off the ball and in rebounds just his brother got pinged at the end of game two
Joe Allen Taylor Land Brad Robbins dirtiest players in the league this year hands down at least Joe and Brad will get you face to face not in the back when you're not looking

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sounds more lyk some Cockburn boys stil with sour grapes from losing their quarter finals. Dry ya eyez princesses :'(

Wolfpack in 2, Giants in 3, most of kalgoorlie to be off their chops at perry lakes nxt sat night! lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Taylor Land for Mayor!

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Trooper Land  
Years ago

following Hugh's lead, this will be my last game for the Flames before embarking on my new career in the UFC. looking forward to Ronda Rousey knocking me out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

speaking of Hugh's exit to footy, i reckon Taylor would probably make a good AFL player.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Has Weeden been totally ruled out of the playoffs?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

ACL tears don't generally heal too quickly so I would expect he would miss the rest of the playoffs and a chunk of the 2016 season too

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He's a bit of an older bloke isn't he? May retire?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

guys like land would get smashed on the football field for the stuff he does

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Anonymous  
Years ago

he wouldnt though, because if he did that on the football field noone would care, because its a full contact sport

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Weeden is only 26/27, likely has a few more years in him

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bit quiet on here now a few of the biggest tools in the league have made an exodus from the finals, and as the rounds have rolled on, not hard to work out where you come from!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Refs selected for GF's

Men: Bret Campbell & Steve Diconza
Women: Craig Copes & Adrian Diconza

A battle of referee egos in the men's GF

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Joondalup v Southwest in the big dance.

Joondalup been the unequivocal benchmark all season long.
Southwest kicked off the year in tremendous fashion, slumped in the mid to tail end of the season, had their share of personnel issues & have still managed to pull it together when it counts amidst a host of doubters.
Great for Southwest to make it this far after really being in the doldrums for the best part of 15 years.
But alas, Joondalup just have to much depth & should be able to negate what ever Southwest can throw at them.
Joondalup to hold their nerve in the big dance defeating Slammers by a comfortable 16 points.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bit quiet on here now a few of the biggest tools in the league have made an exodus from the finals

the problem with this statement is a few of the biggest tools in the league are still in the finals.

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RMQ  
Years ago

Myself and "Wild 1" will be back as SBL Sound Technicians for the Grandfinal this weekend.

We'll be doing both the men and women's game. Lachie Reid will be the MC for the mens (not sure about the womens).

You will be happy to know there will be much less repetive sound FX usage than the all-star game.

We plan on playing less music than at the all-star game and just letting the crowd dictate the feeling of the final.

And with Lachie at the helm we are trying to stock up on as many basic "clap along" songs as possible.

Any suggestions/advice is welcomed.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

to be honest this thread has been a bore the last few weeks without the so called "tools"

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ben dickson  
Years ago

yer it sucks now

go horks

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers to cause the biggest upset of the year and win the championship in 2015.

Harrelson to win Grand Final MVP

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not really interested in going to the game given it should be a landslide Wolves win.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bret Campbell reffing the GF......really???? Can pick a handful of refs better than that moron

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

GF refs should be independent of the clubs involved. Campbell isn't.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

brett campbell is the only ref appropriate because hes the only ref that doesnt get swayed by crowd/emotion/player profiles. Even if hes a bad during the game at least hes equally bad hence making him the only option.

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Backspin  
Years ago

congrats to both men's teams, think Wolves will do it ezy

With the gf, haven't been to one before but are they going to have it on the radio? Wasn't sure if they have ever had it on tv, but was that explored?

Would also recommend speaking to the announcers/music ppl from each club involved in the women's gf and men's gf and find is there any music they play to fire the crowd up and put that in the playlist.

Since their supporters be in the audience that fires up their respective teams maybe even some phrases for lachie to use?.

do they have half time entertainment, dancers or something might be handy?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

who will win GF MVP?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Trian favorite
Davis roughy

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RMQ  
Years ago

Backspin - I'm doing the music for the game.

I have been in contact with some clubs and have been given some information for music for each team - as far as run ons.

Unfortunately not all teams have the best sound technicians/game night people - and some clubs do it a lot better than others. But not to fear we will have it covered.

The SBL is still sending me through requests and specific songs for each team, which I can guarantee will be played.

I've also been in contact with Lachie to see what he's feeling and any request he has.

We will be trying to channel the old Paul Malone/Lachie Challenege stadium vibe. Although it's a bit harder when the MC is impartial.

The atmosphere of the game will ultimately depend on how close it is.

Fingers crossed its a tight one!

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RMQ  
Years ago

On a side note - if anyone attending the game does like the background music and style we provide please email your supporting thoughts to the wildcats.

We'd love to have that opportunity and we are hoping that if we do well enough this weekend that it might open some doors.

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The Merriwa Tavern & Bistro Joondalup City Wolves confirm that 2013 WSBL Championship winning and current Head Coach Vlad Alava has informed the club that he will not seek to renew his contract with the Wolves in 2016.

http://www.wolfpackbasketball.com.au/news/general_news/vlad_alava_/290

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

I find it rather hilarious that RMQ has mentioned he has contacted 'some' clubs when there is only four involved, and I for one know Rockingham hasn't been contacted regarding any music / 'run ons' as you put it!! And I also know the Slammers haven't been contacted either as I am close with their admin people and announcer - Either do it properly and contact ALL clubs rather than doing what could be perceived as a half assed job / Your personal "favourites" effort by only contacting those clubs / people you do know... just my thoughts!

Wolves should win easily in the Men's as many people have said but Grand Finals can be strange games!! Ty's last game in charge of South West could lead them to be more passionate too given the amount of work he has put in down there. Can Voekel's meds last long enough for him to see out the game against the likes of Robbie, Damo, KD & Timmsy?! Can Etto last a whole quarter without blaming Brett or Steve for every 50/50 call against the Wolfpack without getting T'd up!?

Seb or Tre will win MVP depending on which team wins although I would not be surprised at all to see Trian walk away with it given the form he is in at the moment. Ty the obvious outsider for MVP should the Slammers get up!

Now I am biased because my club is involved here but I think the Women's GF could be one of the closer contests in recent times. Two gun teams with stars a plenty and two clubs who are traditional rivals in the South - should make for a great game in front of what is hopefully a good sized crowd!

Best of luck to all four teams - well three haha (Sorry all of my Willo friends!) in the two big games this weekend and lets hope its another great showcase of Basketball in this state.

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RMQ  
Years ago

Random - Read what I said. I'm waiting on the SBL to get me the music.

It's not my job to contact the clubs - that lies with the SBL. And secondly it's not even a job, this is a volunteer gig - so chill.

I've been in contact with "some" clubs - Willo and Wolves through personal relationships I have with some people at those clubs. I could care less who wins this weekend, one actually reached out to me.

The SBL is the one responsible for getting in contact with the clubs for run ons. So I'm waiting on them.

And in fact I received Rockingham's run on song on Monday. I've been told it is "When a fire starts to burn" by Disclosure.

I find it hilarious that you are one of the most die hard SBL fan boys out there but are so quick to judge on someone that's trying to help out.

I've played for East Perth - My only bias for the weekend is making sure it's a fun event and the background music we provide creates a better experience than a Wildcats game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

R@nD0m give us your awards predictions for both men's and women's.

I enjoyed your men's reviews this year so let us have the awards predictions.

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

Hahaha whoever told you its 'When A Fire Starts To Burn' needs to be shot... twice! (C Rice if that was you who made that decision you're better than that - just sayin!)As such, We don't have a song... I say WE because I am the one who does the announcing / sound technician'ing as you put it - down at Rocko.

We're all volunteers mate... aside from the occasional liquid payment some of us more fortunate folk recieve at some clubs (Rocko, Perth to name a couple :P ) we do it because we love being involved with clubs we usually love - except for this time of the year where anyone involved with SBL & WABL can't wait to see the back end of the season and FAST!

I am sure you guys will do a great job - I won't be there on Saturday but i'm sure with the best announcer in Australia in Lachie doing it, it will definitely be a blast!! Just to show there is no hard feelings, if I handle the pre-GF drinks well enough and im not too 'molly' afterwards to remember, I will even come up and say what a good job you've done / are doing etc - Its not an easy gig at all but you've been blessed to be the one to be chosen!

Side note - If you can find a censored version of Fetty Wap's Trap Queen or anything Hip Hop / Trap Remixes (Flosstradamus goes well) then I know the Flames girls will be more than happy!!

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RMQ  
Years ago

^Thank you for the constructive feedback.

Fetty Wap is on there and it's clean too. Have both that and the instrumental.

What is the run on you would like then? Or what do you find works well.

Your original post makes more sense now.

I'm only relaying what I've been told mate. So if you have anything to add please send it through to the SBL and they'll get it to me :)

The whole reason I posted here is to make sure I cover all bases - and clearly it has worked.

Thanks.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Former Redback Marshall Brown has returned to Japan, just incase anyone cares: http://www.australiabasket.com/Australia/news/418510/Marshall-Brown-joins-Kanazawa-Samuraiz

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nah we dont

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

As Requested

Men's Champions: Wolves
'John Gardiner' Men's Coach of the Year: Matt Parsons (Cougars)
Men's MVP: Hobbs (Hawks) or Lewis (Buccs)
Men's Most Improved: Hitchcock (Slammers)

Women's Champions: Flames
Women's Coach of the Year: Ryan Petrik (Flames)
Women's MVP: Whitcomb (Flames) or Tomlinson (Tigers)
Women's Most Improved: J Bourne (Flames)

Ref of the Year: Steve Diconza
Most Improved Ref: Adrian Diconza
Personality of the Year: Craig Mansfield

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Anonymous  
Years ago

how do they even vote on best ref?? ridiculous, ask the players to vote who the best is and its the only way to get a fair reading on best ref.




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Anonymous  
Years ago

There is no way Rhys Vague won't get Most Improved Player. Went from 3 points a game to 18 points and 11 rebounds.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

they should 100% ask the players who the best ref is,

they should also to a player questionaire like every other league, so the league knows what best to improve on. Instead of doing nothing forever.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Player survey would be great. Half of it could be released with questions such as "who is hardest to guard" etc to generate discussion/media.

The other half could be kept confidential to help the league grow.

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Greeny  
Years ago

RMQ a suggestion for you for music in the men's game, when the refs come out how about playing the Skyhooks classic, Ego

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RMQ  
Years ago

^haha three blind mice maybe?

There will be no ref hazing. Gotta be unbiased and fair.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good old pikey's mens preview has Clive Weeden as a key contributor for the slammers in the big dance.

Mmm not sure about that one!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Congrats to the Flames and Sami Whitcomb, 41 points, what a champion!

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Another great year from Whitcomb, she beasted and feasted. Should be a good season for her coming up with the Lynx

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pikey went to the game tonight. ZOMG!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Congrats to the Wolves... Theirs to lose all year and they finished it off with a smashing of the Slammers.

Disappointing to see Timms only playing 11 mins or so. Needs to be somewhere else next year

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Anonymous  
Years ago

timms is over rated. athletic, but thats bout it. no basketball IQ

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

It's that time of year again,

Offseason,

Anyone know of who's going where in the State Basketball League for 2016.

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Everyone's going to the Tigers. The cheque book is being dusted off as we speak.

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jesus  
Years ago

We need a new thread.

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Tyrell  
Years ago

hahah anonymouse^- great call!!

Timms is under-rated, at Suns he was putting up big numbers and developing well, however in recent years his gameplay has been stifled by over-technical, oppressive, textbook coaching whereas Warren Kuhn allowed him to play naturall, freely and to have fun whilst doing so.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Is Timms still with the Wildcats as a DP?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cos winning championships is sh!thouse?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He's one of the best aussie bigs in the league. Should be playing way more than 11 mins a game

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Came off a pretty serious injury halfway through the season into the number 1 team in the league.
Played a great role on a championship team.
Kid has massive upside.
Nothing wrong with where he is and what's to come.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Timms is in good stead still.
Was able to ease into the season coming off a foot injury. Played a role & won a championship on a real basketball team. Shows everyone the kind of character he really has.
I cant see Matacz going around again, so some minutes will open up for him in 2016 anyway should he remain with a championship winning side.

I'm quite sure Ettridge will be good for his ongoing development.

Congrats wolves.

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Not Nic Cody  
Years ago

Adrian Majstrovich to Tigerland

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nic iliadis  
Years ago

ben dixon, purser and garlepp to waneroo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, Dixon for sale, Purser to retire and Garlepp to Warwick.

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Me to do the league a favour and retire to work on my dream of being a full time instagram model.

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nic iliadis  
Years ago

Word is that Redbacks are rumoured to be signing greg oden?

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

these trolls tho haha

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redbacks will be signing Lackovic to play and coach and manage and drive the bus lolz. There won't be anyone else left.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tre Nicholls announces he is back for Slammers via a fans Instagram page...before the dust has settled on his poor performance in the GF...and before a new head coach is announced....

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gary  
Years ago

seen that post, highly doubt he would have committed to coming back already, especially since he wasn't being paid down there.

Surely he could get some big bucks elsewhere

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nic iliadis  
Years ago

crazy him AND voekel werent getting paid

yet some teams struggle to find one productive import.

They should both make a bit if they want to leave next year

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Anonymous  
Years ago

haha not getting paid

hahahahaha

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gary  
Years ago

they wernt, ty was taking all the money.

weeden voekel and nicholas all had jobs

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Gee what about Jake Burston's 40 point effort in the first round of the d-league playoffs, dude balls just as hard as he rinses

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Anonymous  
Years ago

haha love how niave some people really are.

Nicholls, Weeden and Voelkel not getting paid ahahah

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ask anyone involved with the club (player or committee member) and you will find out they weren't paid to play.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I also heard that Ray Turner at Redbacks wasnt getting paid. Neither was Lacko

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Anonymous  
Years ago

'paid to play' is such a furfie.
We will pay you $1000 a week to do development but not to play.
That ones been used for years mate

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Voekel was working at Exit bar as a glassy, as well as selling bali cigarettes on the side

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Will Voelkel be back to pick up glasses at the Exit Bar down in the South West in 2016?

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

What happened to Brett Kranz-Little at Suns women? Thought he did ok with what he had.

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Hogwash 51  
Years ago

Lots of SBL head coaching jobs available just a couple of weeks after the season...............
2 x Lightning
2 x Bunbury
1 x Joondalup
1 x Eastern Suns
and maybe more to come???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Stirling will have 2 new head coaches in their program from what i hear

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone have any hot tips as to who is going to win the lakeside summer comp this year? This is what its all really about

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Whoever has Rowan Mackenzie let's be honest

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ramjets?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

mastrovich apparently taking his talents to easley and kyle armour ...beach

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in the know  
Years ago

Andy Stewart to coach Stirling MSBL

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

What does that mean?

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Anon  
Years ago

Nice try "in the know" Stirling just announced Mike Ellis as the Mens SBL Coach

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon
Mike Ellis has been appointed as High Performance Director not MSBL Head Coach.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Take a comprehension course or re read the article.

Mike Ellis will champion the development pathways & programs within the club in both the Western Australian Basketball League & State Basketball League competitions. Mike will also coach the club's men squad in the State League competition. Mike Ellis will champion the development pathways & programs within the club in both the Western Australian Basketball League & State Basketball League competitions. Mike will also coach the club’s men squad in the State League competition. Mike Ellis will champion the development pathways & programs within the club in both the Western Australian Basketball League & State Basketball League competitions. Mike will also coach the club’s men squad in the State League competition.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So looking at the MSBL, who's job is safe for 2016?
Who is going to be under pressure to perform?
Who has big shoes to fill?

You would have to think Ettridge, Parsons, Heron and Haney would all be safe for 2016 providing they retain their rosters.

Lackovic has featured heavily in this forum for his underperforming team in 2015. With the chequebook open and a poor result the pressure to perform will be on.

The man who possesses the best sideline fist pump in the league, Alan Black, will be under pressure to perform after also opening the chequebook and recruiting hard last offseason. They had all the hype heading into the season but were a bit of a fizzer at the business end.

Jason Kyle down in Mandurah would have to be under some heat. After being in the top 4 for the first half of the season and then missing the playoffs with a team full of experienced veterans and a gun young PG, the fadeout was almost unexplainable?

John Triscari up in Kalamunda. After winning 2 games in MSBL and taking out the wooden spoon with the next team 5 games clear it goes without saying.

Big shoes to fill:
Whoever coaches Slammers Men
Whoever coaches Lakeside Men

Question Marks?
What do East Perth do in 2016? Does Forde return to the sideline or does Joe player coach? It wasnt until Joe took the reigns and stopped them playing 48 minutes of zone that they started winning games. To go from championship in 2014 to second bottom in 2015 certainly begs the question.

If Andy Stewart does return to the sidelines in Blue will there be a mass exodus from Lakeside and players coming out of retirement (Prue, Sofoulis bros, Jackson)?

Can the Slammers find another naturalised American who can stuff a stat sheet in every category to replace the great Ty Harrelson?
Better yet, can they find some money to pay Tre and Voelkel so they dont have to pick up empty glasses at the Exit Bar?

Can Nix get a decent import to bolster Hobbs and Purser from the beginning? If so they are a top 5 team in 2016.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I guess the Andy Stewart question mark has been cleared up!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Most Legends V Jets tonight... big match

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Some interesting teams from last night,

Lewis Thomas, Tahiti, Wags, Damien Scutt and drew williamson teaming up in one pretty decent social team.

do they have the heart though?

Prues angels, having one last run at it should be considered favouites.

Watched Jets go down easily to Most Legends, No arm sleeve could stop the perry lakes losers from winning

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Anonymous  
Years ago

just being honest, nobody cares about Lakeside social comp here
start your own thread that is more aligned to Lakeside social comp Movers and Rumors, not SBL

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Dione 91  
Years ago

I care please continue, the league contains half the SBL but is more progressive

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Dione 91  
Years ago

L Timms, 28 pts in a loss

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FIG-JAM  
Years ago

I'm not interested in any team that has Lewis Thomas playing in it....him and Drewy Drewy in the same side is interesting though, 2 massive egos together!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They had a very close match against austin kisslev, jackson and timms

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FIG-JAM  
Years ago

how were the rest of the games from thursday?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

D grade on court 4 went off

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Prues Ramjets were stacked but went down to the more youthful, Seva Chan, Peseva, Holmes forming a dominant set of hair pieces

very interesting

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Anonymous  
Years ago

abbott out, turnbull in.... what does this mean for the SBL?

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

D League men/SBL bench & young kids final pits the Joondalup Wolves against the Perth Redbacks.

Can Joondalup claim the SBL/WABL double or can Perth salvage some pride from a disappointing season?

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Uncle Fester to get the W.
Joondalup still hung over.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wanneroo beat them first week of finals the day after the GF..

Wolves will win by 20

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Ahh. Lacovic must have taken over the coaching then.

Joondalup coaches busy trying to counter the 12 offers other clubs have made to Timms. Chequebook fever.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

multiple mens SBL coaches watching timms at lakeside Mens A grade on Thursday

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What do people see in Timms? He isn't that good.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What do people see in Timms? He isn't that good.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

heart

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Really  
Years ago

6foot 8 inch, athletic, young, Australian... Should I go on...

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Tyrell  
Years ago

Lou an block shots, has a good bball iq, is great around the rim, is athletic, and can also shoot- head firmly screwed on and is a great all round nice guy!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

agree with everything but the IQ bit but that will come with time

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Anonymous  
Years ago

haha quite a low bball IQ imho, if it was higher he would have moved on from the SBL, especially at 24. I would say hes 6'9 easy, and yes he is a freakish athlete. Can play

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Tyrell  
Years ago

the thing is, he hasn't been playing that long compared to others. I am pretty sure he barely played any WABL. Good bball IQ for a big guy, I know it's a generalization, but big guys don't have the best IQ.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yer thats incorrect tyrell

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C'mon  
Years ago

That excuse has been trotted out for 3-4 years now. He's played enough and seen enough to have picked up on things.

Physically he has tools, mentally he doesn't get the game and he may never really do that. It's not a knock, just a reality.

Will Ettridge be back in 2016? Olympic year usually means Rollers duties from memory. Same for Trigger?

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Tyrell  
Years ago

which part is incorrect?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

big guys having generally poor basketball IQ's, id say its actually pretty even and is just a stereotype

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Tyrell  
Years ago

Fair enough, though I did say it was a generalization! I still think Lou's IQ is decent.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

East Perth announce their new coach.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joe will do well there

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Interesting to see Ben Smith playing alongside Joel, Trian and Huntington. A nice pick up that would be!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do we conclude then that Ben Smith replaces Timms at Joondalup?
Timms moves to ...?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Timms is a 4/5, Smith is a 2. Why would he leave??

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No D  
Years ago

The Ben Smith that absolutely positively allows his man to post career numbers every game? Yeah that'd only be a HUGE downgrade at Joondalup.

Unless you mean the B.Smith from Mandurah, then that changes things.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, I was thinking the Mandurah Smith.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mandurah's Smith possibly heading to Rocko next season if Cooper Land doesn't return

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Anon  
Years ago

Mandurahs B.Smith is a beast, he'd be a great pick-up for any Team

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If Ben Smith leaves Magic then they can say goodbye to any championship dreams for the next 10 years...
With some teams either having a 3rd american (non-restricted) or at least an import level aussie or two, the Magic will really struggle losing Smith who has been their best player the last couple of years.
A lineup of Jackson/Samuelson/Florence/Import/Mully is solid but not going to compete against Wolves, Buccs, Giants, Flames, Tigers (assuming these teams keep their roster together)
Add Smith back into that lineup, and carefully select the correct import to replace Hafford then you are right in the mix.
The only other option if Smith leaves is to have Mully become unrestricted and add 2 quality imports, ideally a couple of athletes...
As for Flames, add Smith to their lineup and you have the flexibility to get a couple of wings... A lineup of Godfrey/import shooter/import wing/smith/remmers is one of the best starting groups going into next season.

A long offseason of rumours to come...

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Herd last night smith-mandurah & samuelson both confirmed to flames and chudier pal back from college also to flames. no word on whether brothers Land will go back there or not. mullenax seriously looking at retirement and questions over della x 2 and gerovich playing also - leaves mandurah with almost noone. Also herd buccs very interested in turner-perth and a well known aussie guard. will lewis go back?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would be surprised if the Dellas return, Gerovich should retire. Mullenax would have to be close to permanent resident surely, but with coach Kyle returning for next season, Mandurah should prepare for a mass exodus and a rebuilding season in 2016

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

It would almost be safe to assume that Ray Turner has priced himself out of the league with his exceptional season (well you would hope anyway)....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's the Buccaneers. Dan Hunt and Al Erickson got paid in crayfish. No doubt the is a way to pay Fade away Ray.

Also of note, Boof Godfrey graduates his teaching degree, this year, lots of jobs for teachers north, and if as the rumour mill has it he's a bit disgruntled with the Flames, a nice fit up there.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

There'd be a teaching job available in Kalgoorlie I reckon. Nuggets taste better than cray.

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Flipside  
Years ago

Plenty of schools in Bunbury if Godfrey is looking...

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Flipside  
Years ago

Quality player and bloke. Boof could name his own price almost for Gero, Kal, Bunbury. Smart move like Hezza, Shamus going country to teach and play.

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

Does it bother anyone else that the 2015 playoff stats have not accumulated in the player profiles on FoxSportsPulse? I can't seem to get a response from BWA from two requests now. It's really irritating seeing only the regular season stats averaged out

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hawks could arrange something at Scotch/MLC/Christchurch for Godfrey? Plus hed get to play with the best team in the league on and off the court.

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JG  
Years ago

hmmmmmm interesting...

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Flipside  
Years ago

Not having a massive feeling of self entitlement rules Boof out of Hawks.
Plus Hobbs would never pass him the ball for crying out loud!!!

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Flipside  
Years ago

In saying that credit where credit is due the hawks players are great men. They work hard and are in their positions based purely on the hard work of the club, families and community as a whole.

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Flipside  
Years ago

Hahah!!
As thought, Hawks players , staff and admin are the only people on this!!
What a joke!

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Flipside  
Years ago

but seriously they are integral to the league but the world owes no one nothing,

hey guys check out my website

http://flipsideburgers.com.au/

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No point advertising your burgers on this Hawks site, unless you have a caviar burger served with champas.

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Flipside  
Years ago

We're closer to making another GF tha Hawks.
Nichols over Hobbs any day of the week

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nichols failed under pressure of finals.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Um...Hobbs was hated by team mates and fans while
Nichols packed out Eaton and is loved.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

OK, you have love with Nichols - I'll take the points and assists from Hobbs in the post season. With a fair bit of rubbish around him he lifted that team to be decent - and did it against the best team in finals.

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Flipside  
Years ago

Hobbs or Nichols were both great players, one things for sure though both players would have hated all the plebs posting on this, particularly the overweight bunbury turds

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, love or hate them, they were both very good players and great for the league.

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Rock lobster  
Years ago

If I am the new Gero coach, I've already spoken to Hobbs and Turner. Hobbs wasn't paid last season and wants a pay day. Turner has already played in Nth QLD, Gero won't phase him.
Those two up here would be awesome.

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Rock lobster  
Years ago


Hobbs
Ralph
Wunders
Turner

Throw in a half decent two guard...Godfrey/Ben Smith are names being thrown around on here....

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anonymous  
Years ago

"If i'm the new Gero coach..." - Did we miss something, Heron not coaching? That being said ive heard Turner is a definite chance of heading to the Midwest. Congrats to everyone's favorite preview writer Random too on getting a state gig.. At least the hiatus this year was worth it mate!! Best of luck with the 14 Metro boys over east.

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Thomas (healthy)
Hobbs
Ralph
Wunders
Turner

That is a very tough starting five... Not sure about the depth though... Wrensted to backup Thomas/Hobbs...

If they could get Godfrey up there as well then they are right up there for championship talks...

Turner would be a massive recruit for any team but the key for Giants is to keep Mua there... Even with two stud imports (as they had...) they won't be real contenders unless they can keep Mua as the third piece of the big three...

Carter Cook will be in high demand if he is leaving Buccs... Imagine what Hawks would have done if they had Carter as second import this past season...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

SBL website announced Buccs looking for a new HC.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pigarz does it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lacko is Turners agent he not gonna let him go to another team in the league

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hahaha  
Years ago

lacko has no chance with turner, burned bridges galore there

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If that is true then Turner needs to fire his ass ASAP

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Flipside  
Years ago

pingaz?

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Anon  
Years ago

No truth to lackovic being turner's manager, based on when ray left the two were not talking to each other. Nothin on sbl site about Buccs looking for new coach either!

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hahaha  
Years ago

(Mod: Sniping)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Interesting WSBL head coach appointment at Stirling Senators. Glen Clark. The club should make big strides under his guidance. Congratulations Glen.

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Mambo #5  
Years ago

Could we see Mitch Clarke following Dad down to Stirling in 2016??

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da trooth  
Years ago

Ranking of best leagues below the NBL

Talent

SEABL
BigV Champ
QBL
SBL
Waratah
Big VD1
Big VD2

League Adminitstation (how the league is run)

SEABL
BigV's
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air
-
rest

Referees

SEABL
Big V's
-
air
-
everyone else

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Where does the Lakeside Thursday night comp fit into this list?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It doesnt

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It definitely run better than the SBL, no joking involved.

often 3 referees

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Anonymous  
Years ago

SBL WA should be making big changes 2016!

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Confirmed Mitch Clarke to stirling, confirmed Nic Cody to retire to focus on rinsing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone see this 3x3 comp with redbull looks interesting....

very well organised too, somewhere between QBL and lakeside comp.

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Rock lobster  
Years ago

As I said, Buccs looking for a new head coach...

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Cock Mobster  
Years ago

Just two days early with your comment. Or SBL site two days slow.

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Rock lobster  
Years ago

What do you reckon is the case?

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Lock Robster  
Years ago

people not happy with the way Horse is running the club or the fact moot has far too much input into how the team should be run or threatenin to pull the pin if he doesnt get his way! why must politics always ruin basketball in gero especially with the buccs. Feel sorry for mark, he did a good job considerin the knives were out a long time ago by supposed influential people stuck in the past.

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Know who horse is but moot???

Hezza had a pretty decent roster to work with but obviously had some problems getting the right player/person for the second import spot.

Decent results over last couple of seasons but in all reality they probably underachieved... Without knowing what happened behind the scenes it is hard to know if a change in coach is a good or bad decision.

With Lewis now playing in top league in UK then he would become a restricted player in SBL next season so the model of having 3 imports is not going to happen... But with rumours of Ray turner going to Buccs then they will still have a decent shot at it...

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Lock Robster  
Years ago

moot is wundenberg. if duke (ducas) isnt the new coach it will just be the same cycle of locals not trusting the out of town new coach and its fine for one or two years but as soon as certain players or individuals involved with the club are unhappy, they will get the same treatment as mark did.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Sounds like there is some major whole sale changes taking place for a number of teams this off-season.

Ray Turner is now over in Japan for the upcoming season. Cant imagine he will return any time soon.

Unsure if B.Lewis would become a restricted player. Is he classed as an import/restricted player in that league?

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Anon #3  
Years ago

I think the BBL is classed as second tier from memory. That would mean Bennie will still be unrestricted.

Any word yet on new Coaches for Lakeside or Bunbury?

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As per the SBL bylaws, the UK is not listed as a country that a player would be considered 'restricted' if they play there... So Bennie Lewis would still be considered unrestricted if he returned to SBL...

Dangerous grounds when players start to dictate the how the team should be run, especially if said players haven't coached a team before.

Sometimes there are decisions to be made and plans to implement that don't suit some players but are for the better of the team. Some players seem to believe that playing a certain number of games all of a sudden makes them an expert on how things should work... Getting input from these players is a must, but them threatening is a bit over the top...

Duke has coached before, what was the reason he was replaced in the first place???

Has browny ever shown interest in coaching???

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Moot  
Years ago

Haha Lock Robster,

What a classic hide behind a fake name post. Mate who ever you are I would gladly discuss the latest news regarding the Buccs. Rather then make up rumours and try run my name down how about you get the facts. If you read the local paper you will see Hez has been offered a teaching/coaching position too good to refuse and both he and Zoe have lost countless nights of sleep in making their decision. I and the entire playing group have thrived under the guidance of Hezza and we as a whole club are very disappointed although respectful of Hez and his families decision. By no means was Hez sacked in fact we did all we could to try convince Hez to give it another shot. He is with out a doubt the most professional coach I have played under or played against. The buccaneers value the services of Hez so highly it will make it tough for the next coach whoever that may be to reach his standards. As for myself threatening to quit if I don't get my way? Haha what a laugh mate 12 years of both service and honor playing for this great club for nothing but love and a couple beers in the change rooms after the game. Geezzz you really are reaching for a rumour aren't you.

Since both Hez and horse have been involved in our great club we have gone from strength to stregth. 2 great home and away season with some bad luck regarding our 2nd import hurting us come business end. There is no sour grapes with the boys from North and we can't wait for season 2016. Who ever does become the Buccs next coach I'm sure will be excited knowing he has got a returning playing group dog hungry for finals success and ready for the hard work to begin.

So like I said gladly have a conversation if you would like rather then make up bulls*^t about both my self and the buccs. My number is 0429990239 give me a buzz mate.

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Macca  
Years ago

Moot, nobody believes this guy's story but a classy response none the less.

All the best to Coach Herron moving to Perth and to the Buccs in finding a suitable replacement.


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Michael Van Lit and Julie Ann Bissaker named new coaches of the Slammers

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

Well said Wunders... Although you shouldn't have to justify a response to the load of BS that was put up by some keyboard hero! Maybe it was someone who has lost to Chapman Valley one too many times in GABA Grand Final hahaha

Anyone who has seen you play since the start of your career knows you give your all to the Buccs, along with Ralphy, being local boys who are the stereotypical 'Gero' basketball players: Tough, Physical, Leave it all on the court... but will have a beer with you after the game regardless of the result - so to suggest otherwise or that you would put yourselves before the club is a joke and a half.

Totally agree with your comments too re Hez - massive shoes to fill but knowing the replacement will have a strong, hungry squad and 1,000+ Midwest Maniacs behind them each and every home game has to give them some confidence heading into the position. I think Duke would be a great option (Even told young Lexxy this last week at SPP camp down here) but maybe he is just comfortable being the reliable assistant!

As a matter of interest on a somewhat separate issue - word is that the Mustangs are looking at getting back into the League in the next 3 - 5 years... So with that which would be more beneficial for the SBL >

Having one of the most successful clubs of the early 90s (Mustangs) and their quaint surrounds of Swan Park back in the League?

or

Making it truly a 'state-wide' League again (Well in the south anyway) and having the Raiders back in the League out of Albany. I know that they were close the last two years to getting their license back but ultimately fell just short of meeting those requirements but surely they would be getting close to having the ol' Rainbow Coast back on board... Imagine that Southern Swing double Header for the likes of Gero / Kal > vs Raiders @ Albany Saturday night; vs Slammers @ Bunbury Sun Arvo!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

From a players perspective its a 50/50 having another country team in the league.
SBL is a huge commitment and the road trip weekends make it a really long week when you work mon-fri.
On the flip side, our road trips are a hoot and would be great to have another weekend away with the lads.
Guess this is fence sitting but just my opinion.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Start paying the players a minimum amount per game then talk about more teams

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Red74  
Years ago

No way mustangs would work, there is no junior or senior program there, except a little dodgy comp the shire runs

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

There is absolutely 0 truth/rumour to the Mustangs returning.

No suitable venue (Swans is in dire need of an upgrade).
No market (Kalamunda is the established eastern suburbs team for now & they have the old Mustang licence anyway).
No junior competition.
No funding.
No interested parties.

Would take a miracle to see them re-activated. You have a better chance of seeing Albany returning.

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Adding Albany back into SBL would be great for the league but only if it is a sustainable model.

It might also be an opportune time to look at the fixturing.

Is 20 weeks too long a season? It always seems that by the end of the year everyone involved is happy to get it over with...

Maybe going to a 16 week regular season and then finals taking it to 20 weeks?

With 15 teams it would be 28 games. Maybe that lends itself to a 18 week season (10 double headers = 20 games, 8 single games)

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JG  
Years ago

16 week season would be great, as well as a league wide bye on Easter long weekend or ANZAC day long weekend or both.

Lots of the players are pretty tired of the regular season by the end with time constraints. The byes would substantially help with this.

Also while they are at it could consider making the league 40 minutes like every other league, would help with its legitimacy.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Moving to a 40 minute game would be a terrible move. Starters would play 35-36 mins a game, and benches would become almost unnecessary.

Look at the minutes the good players currently play in this league.. In non blow outs they play 40-43 mins.

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I definitely think the 48 minutes should stay... I'm not sure this has anything to do with the legitimacy of the league considering the NBA still plays 48 mins...

It would likely be the reverse, 40min games would be starters v starters (as posted above) and quite often results in low scoring games.

As much as I appreciate a great defensive system, it is always better to see a higher scoring game.

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JG  
Years ago

Shorten the season though and give us a bye weekend.

Would encourage better fringe NBL players to play in the offseason if there was less cross over with the NBL preseason.

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R@nD0m  
Years ago

My idea for the future would be move to Conferences - North & South. You play each team in your Conference twice (Home & Away) and you play each team in the opposite conference once (One year at Home, the next Away). I'd have the League look like this:

North - Gero, Joondalup, Perry Lakes, Stirling, Perth, East Perth, Kalamunda

South - Cockburn, Willo, Lakeside, Rocko, Mandurah, South West, Goldfields

This would equate to a 21 game season, meaning you could run the regular season over 14 weeks with the need for only 7 double headers per club per season. Alternatively you could have a 16 week season and only 6 double headers with each club getting a bye in there as well which could accommodate for such things as an All Star weekend, rotated between venues each year.

If Albany came into the League, it would mess up my conferences seeing currently there are 7 teams in each haha

Reducing the quarters to 10 mins makes no sense. The NBL did it purely for TV purposes so Ten / One would get them on FTA... We can barely get decent video out of some venues let alone TV and as it has been mentioned above, essentially forgoing any sort of player development given the reduced court time / opportunities.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Love the conference idea, seems like a no brainer. One conference will have one extra team if Albany come in wouldn't be a major issue I'm sure

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The only problem with the conference approach is that you don't play every team the same amount of times.

As seen in the NBA, and also closer to home in the WABL.

If one conference has stronger teams then you will see these teams miss playoffs while the weaker teams of the other conference get through.

The NBA Western Conference is generally stronger and then you get teams in the East that make playoffs with a losing record.

Unless the SBL grows by 3 or 4 teams and makes playing a home and away schedule to long, I would prefer not to move to conferences.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

I see no benefit in conferences. It just mimics the current WABL format. No dice in my opinion.

A shortened season sounds great in theory, but cant see it happening due to the simple logistics of it all.

Why is everyone talking as if Albany might actually come back? Its zero chance of happening in the next 15 years. Probably for any new club to be established in all honesty.

Anyways, any player movement news? Its about now that coaches & players will already be discussing trying to whoo one another.......anything?

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Macca  
Years ago

I like the conference idea Random. 16 week season with a bye.

The conference system appears to work in WABL, it works in the SEABL, College and in the NBA so why it would throw the SBL in disarray I dont know?

However, as West Australians we are well known to resist change... dont get me started on Daylight Savings haha

With new coaching appointments usually comes player movement.
Michael Van Lit to fill the big shoes of Ty down south.
Joe Allan taking the reigns from Forde at East Perth.
No word on Buccs or Lakeside Head Coach positions being filled to date.
Is Utley returning to Flames for 2016?

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Ganymede  
Years ago

"A shortened season sounds great in theory, but cant see it happening due to the simple logistics of it all."

Its pretty freaking simple, I'm sure if someone spent the day doing the scheduling they could easily figure it out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

In SA, any teams training yet? any players looking like they could be surprise packets in 2016?

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Cock Mobster  
Years ago

I hope some of our SBL court announcers cum dj's could read the article by Boti Nagy. Not all, but some.

"The one thing we have to remember to do is RESPECT THE GAME.

If we disrespect it with intrusion masquerading as faux "insight" or nonstop music masquerading as "entertainment" then how can we expect the masses we want to jump on board to respect it?"

http://www.botinagy.com/blog/respect-the-game/

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I reckon.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Any SBL or Lakeside A grade players competing in this REdBull rain 3x3 comp thats happening on the weekend? Seems very well organised, perhaps BWA should employ the organisers?

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G-Money  
Years ago

So C-Mobster who is doing a good job, people that go to various venues what is the call who put on the best game night experience in 2015?

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

^^ shout out to my imposter again.

smh.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Slammers are probably the front runners for best game night experience with their intros and such

Kalgoorlie always have a great game night experience as do Buccs

As far as metro I think Stirling are right on it. will be interesting to see how that develops when the new courts are done

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Big win for spurs last night at the Lakeside comp, apparently the salards are the team to look out for at the redbull event.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

who are the salards? where is this redbull comp?

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Perth, McCallum Lane, Victoria Park, Western Australia, Australia

Yer exactly... WHO are the salards... amIright

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thanks Clive as always very informative,

I will have to check it out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WOLFPACK BABY YEAH

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Anonymous  
Years ago

As Clive said The salards won.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

you dont make friends with salards

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Julian Pesava, Nick Cody and Seva Chan.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redbull Perth
32 teams
Salards played 13 x 10min games 3 players no sub
Won some cash & stuff
Air tickets to Melbourne 2 nights accomm at Crown for Redbull Finals 24 Oct

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Wish the bloke with crap grammar & talking about lame ass haircuts & 3 on 3 could get another name instead of using mine.

Its not hard.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

But congrats to the salards and all SBL players involved,

it was a well run day.

Might have to get one of these "Salards" for me self lol. Me misses is on me case for dat.

have a blessed week

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Honestly mate....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good luck boys.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Does Clive Nicholls have a split personality?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Crappy name so not sure why he/they are so precious over it.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

In the real world im a simple pleb, but on here... the internet ..."Clive" is so much more...

I'm an oppinionated pleb, who is due for salard...hold the dressing

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

I'm Clive Nicholls and so is my brother

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm really impressed by the way you guys can type so well with one hand.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

he mostly comes at night.... mostly

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

No, there is no split personality.

Just some dick troll who thinks its funny to talk about anything not SBL. Its the worst thing about this forum.

Hopefully everyone will just recognise my posts as I post constructive posts about SBL & not utter rubbish.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

In saying that though both personalities have equal amounts of credibility.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

^^ smh

No.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Why not use the SBL forum instead of this ridiculously long single thread. You have to expect crap on a forum that allows anonymous postings.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

let it be known that EVERYTHING posted on here is crap

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Really  
Years ago

If u remove posts from Clive Nicholas then there is minimal crap in this thread...

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DaHuzyBru  
Years ago

^Word.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

East Perth SBL trials begin this Sunday at Morley.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That is way too early! Joe-Allen is gonna run them into the ground!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pretty sure Tigers started in October last year for this years season. They still made playoffs but definitely faded in the back end of the season.

Joe obviously serious about not being cellar dwellers next season

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Very early start, will most likely have a substantial break for christmas but joe is a hard working player lets hope his team can keep up.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

I'm retiring the Clive Nicholls name.

If it pops up or remains in use any more its from the troll/name stealer/immature turd.

Good luck to all the SBL teams for 2016.

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Wait ignore above, IM THE REAL CLIVE NICHOLIS NOT HE ABOVE GUY

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

haha Clive Nicholls you are getting trolled hard, but you just keep feeding him!

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Will the real Clive Nicholls please stand up please stand up

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In the no  
Years ago

Apparently Clive Nicholls to start for the hawks next year, you didnt hear from me though.

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Really.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

If you go right up to the top of this page and click on the "Most Replies" link, you will see that this SBL page is the most popular topic on the whole Hoops.com.au website.... by a long way.

My question is.....

Is this the most popular because of:

(a) The SBL has the most passionate, and online savvy supporters in Australia.

or

(b) The SBL has the most basketball fans in Australia who dribble shit.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

(b) Ref above 5 posts.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

or C that the SBL Forum is dead and there is nowhere else to post anything

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Anonymous  
Years ago

D anyone commenting that isnt a player is generally a piece

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Anonymous  
Years ago

who will win SBL 2016? early favourites based on what youse all no know?

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Anon  
Years ago

Of course only players know what they are talking about. Good try there.

As for 2016, there must be player movement already. Signings will surface soon.

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*Mandurah to play out of Rockingham due to stadium unavailability, maybe they forgot to pay their court hire costs with all their debts from chalky!
*AJ Majstro to finally address those rumors and suit up for Willo a year later than expected
*Lakeside to miss finals for second year in a row with no krump, prue or any1 of note
*EP to win rounds 1 - 7 then die in the anus from fatigue rounds 8 - 21
*Buccs or Giants to win the 'Ship... they're due!

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'Ego' will NOT be a dirty word at Tigerland next season!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Isn't ego the only word at Willeton?

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Clive Nicholis  
Years ago

Easily to be a naturalised australian next season.

Word is he could be heading to bunbury to complete the stars and stripes of starting fives.

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Really  
Years ago

No one will compete with wolves and giants if they keep rosters together.
Slammers done withTy leaving
Buccs done if Lewis not back
Tigers will have to recruit at least one more established sbl player which will further make mockery of their claim of developing juniors
Redbacks apparently losing lots of players
Stirling may get Cody Ellis back permanently based on current Nbl form but will need another stud import
Lakeside cooked, struggling atm just to get coach
Hawks could be improve but need to get import selection correct this time

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where is the wolfpack money coming from?

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Clive Nicholls  
Years ago

Heard Hobbs back for PL?

Taiwhitti to NZBL?

Godfrey to Gero?

DT to Cockburn?

Ben Smith to Rocko?

Ben Stanley to Star Wars Ep 7

Tom Garlepp back to stop JG from shooting so many shit shots?

Cam Gliddon back to Bunno to show us all his dirty mo?

Donlagic and Balcombe to Cockburn?

Timms to Lakeside?

Burston, Nordheek and other pretty boy crew off to footy?


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gliddon doesn't have a dirty mo more like bum fluff.

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Clive Nicholis  
Years ago

Any chanjges in the lakeside comp from last week?

apparently andy stewarts crew are doing well?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yer they are doing well I think,

Dazza morgan appears to be chopping.

the majority of my previous comments were retarded

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I wouldn't see anyone going to Lakeside at this stage without a coach announced.
Would be bad move for Timms who needs a coach to continue developing him.
Burston and Noordheek a big loss for Tigers. Although they weren't used that much, they essentially were in the 7-9 rotation and were solid contributors when given opportunity. Tigers lost a lot of the core that you would look to build off in future over last couple seasons. Jacob Reed, Noordheek, Burston, Andrew Dunnel. This would make a decent rotation with 2 imports, Kyle, Damien Scott, Nic Cody, Mitch Clark.
Not sure the Cougars would take DT back? They seemed to flourish with the way their team worked together and played team ball. DT is talented but can want to much of the ball.
You won't see Gliddon or T Garlepp back in the SBL for a while I wouldn't think. Both are major role players in their respective teams and wouldn't risk injury/fatigue.
Ben Smith to Rocko would make them serious contenders, and kill any hope Magic have for the next 10 years (assuming it is the big Ben Smith, and not the SG from Redbacks)
Donlagic and Balcombe to Cougars has some merit with Parsons being involved at East Perth. May disrupt the balance they had there but adds some depth.
I guess we will see in the next 4-6 weeks on where players are starting to surface.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm told Lakeside have a coach, just haven't announced it publicly yet.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How the hell are Mandurah going to play out of Rocko? Not good for their fan base, even though its 15mins up the road its more the inconvenience for the locals. A new court, new surroundings. Could potentially be a bad year for both teams

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Clive Nicholis  
Years ago

Yer thatd be mind blowing to drive 15 minutes and watch local basketball. Honestly how will they cope

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Nive Clichols  
Years ago

Do mandurah have any other options though - wabc / waroona / halls head / pinjarra? Heard Chudeir Pal - formerly with rockingham, to suit up for east perth. nice pickup if true, muo re-signed at goldfields, dt to lakeside or mandurah, d scott back to cockburn along with donlagic and balcombe as mentioned in earlier post, gerovich retired with reappointment of j kyle as mens coach at mandurah, smokey of burston noordhoek & co to join clarkey up at warwick, timms headed to willetton

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Nive Clichols  
Years ago

Timms to Perry Lakes? Junior club, apparently hes good friends with the guys there. They need a true centre

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Does anyone actually have any inside knowledge on Timms or are we all just speculating???
Going to a 3rd team in 3 seasons in not really a good look, or going to help him I don't think. Depending on opportunity at Wolves (will Damo retire) there really isn't a better club for him. Ettridge is at least equal to other coaches in development, and has a ton more contacts. The Wolves seem to have a great culture, and I'm sure they would be paying him.
Tigers may pay him but there would be no development program for him.
Hawks would probably not pay him but may help in development.

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Nive Clichols  
Years ago

I just made it up, just like everyone else.

i guess it just depends what he wants out of basketball

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dont see DT going back to Mandurah especially under Jason Kyle. Lakeside probably more realistic if he is in fact leaving Gero. Ben Smith going to Rocko, Hafford likely not coming back, Dellas possibly retiring, who will fill the gap in Mandurah.
Cockburn making moves already, will be a force if the above moves are true

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ahahah DT to lakeside....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Doubt thats happening

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anon  
Years ago

Lakeside will have a hard enough time keeping anyone from their last year roster let alone attracting new players.
They need to announce the coach, if there is one, and hope they have a higher enough profile to turn things around.

Magic are in for a world of pain. There doesn't seem to be any local talent coming through that will help in the short term. Players shouldn't dictate who the coach is but if they are losing the roster as discussed then maybe a change of coach was the better option.

Will be interesting to see what Cougars do. They really went well based on a lower talent level roster buying into the system and playing hard for each other. If they bring in a bunch of new guys they might mess with this recipe for success. Scott coming back sounds good but they were a lot more successful without him so not sure it will really help them.

The smokey might be the Suns. If they can get the imports back, or upgrade, keep Seva improving and possibly add a couple of pieces. Maybe Ben Smith (the guard) will head back there? And lets add them to the Timms list of possible places.

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Wolfpack look good to repeat.

Why did dad name me after him, such a sht name :(

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Suns are not a smokey, unless your talking for the wooden spoon?

No way on God's green earth Ben Smith goes back there from Redbacks where I am lead to believe was being paid pretty nicely.

Seva is a lower tier point guard in the league and not great under pressure.

I notice you didnt mention Holmes?

Suns need to get Horn healthy and get 2 of the best imports in the league to even look like moving off the bottom of that ladder.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cockburn making moves early. There new import is Brandon McGill.. Averaged 19 points in the British League, which where Michael Vigor and Bennis Lewis (was) playing. Doubt very much Donlagic will play for Parsons though, Parsons never played him when he was at east perth.

Timms has plateaued - would be a great pick up for any team, but you can't seriously talk about 'developing' him. Great athlete with the lowest basketball IQ.

Dennis, Ben Smith and Marshall Nelson not returning to Redbacks 100%.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

*their

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anon  
Years ago

Even if Timms has plateaued as posted above, if he can get back to pre-injury numbers then that would be more than handy for any team in the league.

It is interesting that the poster mentioned a low bball IQ. Part of having a good bball IQ must come from experience, and from my knowledge Timms has only been playing a key role at SBL level for about 4 years.

So I would assume he would continue to develop and grow in that area.

I also know he was RH dominant so he can develop the LH considerably.

I think that if he recovers from his injury/surgery that he can continue to develop into a high end SBL player in next few years.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Easley to Slammers legit or at least have any credibility?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If Cockburn have a new import who out of Lane and Milam isnt returning?

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Is that you Alan?

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Anon  
Years ago

Easley will go wherever he can get paid that also has colours he can match with his 23 arm sleeves, 58 headbands and 17 socks all carefully colour-coordinated

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The cockburn guy mentioned above is a guard so have to assume it's lane that isn't returning?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Easley would have to be one of, if not the longest tenured SBL import in recent years?
Granted he has bounced around a few clubs he has not been out of a job where many players probably more talented have.

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Skewered  
Years ago

Word is a big exodus over at spider town.
Players giving the game away, a number relocating to opposing teams & some retirements.
Wont be much left to work with there.

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Nive Clichols  
Years ago

'Wont be much left to work with there...'
Until the walking ego learns how to beat a zone or put the team before his own personal vendetta, why would any decent player bother with playing there?

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Nive Clichols  
Years ago

To be fair I'm really scared of lako myself, he actually beat me up once

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Skewered care to share who is leaving, giving up the game, retiring, relocating to other teams?

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Cnive Lichollssss  
Years ago

Nikora - Gone Purple

Lewis - Gone Purple

Tawhiti - Gone

Imports - Gone

Bennison - Retired

Rendulic - Retired?

Johnston - Gone USA

Makavilitongia - Gone

Wagners - ??????

Coaches - 1 Gone

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Anonymous  
Years ago

haha Rendulic.. the oldest D-League player in the history of basketball..

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Flip Flop  
Years ago

lol there has been way older getting around D-League

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Anonymous  
Years ago

so Cnive if we are to believe your post and other posts re the Redbacks,they are not retaining Smith
Nikora
Lewis
Tawhiti
Bennison
Rendulic
Johnston
Makavilitongia
Nelson
Imports
Assistant Coach

and Wagner is a question mark.

This might be a first where an entire roster barring the Head Coach doesnt come back?

Oh I love this time of year where the rumor mill is in full swing and the claims are bold and beautiful

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Cnive Lichollllls  
Years ago

Not all will move but over half sure will

Bold? sure.

Beautiful? Damn right I am.

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Anonymouse  
Years ago

Redbacks starting five for 2016 will be all year 12s from Hale.
Nick needs someone to buy him a mirror for Christmas.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

he would have a million of those already

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gary  
Years ago

Ben Smith approached by the Slammers

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Straight from Lakeside facebook

Lakeside Lightning are pleased to announce the Head Coach and Assistant Coach for the 2015 Mens SBL Season and welcome them to Lakeside.
Head Coach: Sam Oatman
Sam is coming to Lakeside from Neenah Wisconsin in the USA. He played College Basketball at East Tennessee State University and was part of 4 conference championships and 2 NCAA tournaments. Sam has also played professionally in England (EBL Div1) and spent time as a playing Assistant Coach with the Coventry Crusaders. He has a vast experience of coaching and development across Basketball Programs in both the UK and the US. Sam is an outstanding leader and we are very excited to have him and his family coming to Lakeside. In 2016 Sam will take on a leadership role in Basketball Development at Lakeside and this will include the Head Coaching role of the Men's SBL Team.
Assistant Coach: Tony Ronaldson
A man who needs no introduction - the 'Bear’ is a two times NBL Championship Player and all time games record holder with 665 NBL games across a number of clubs including the Perth Wildcats who he captained in 2005/06. In addition to this he has represented Australia at international level, including the 1996 and 2004 Olympic Games. We are really excited to have Tony join our program and look forward to the partnership between him and Sam.
Our full Coaching group and pre-season training opportunities will be announced shortly.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

which Ben Smith are we talking about?

Big Ben or Little Ben

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Confirmed Mitch Clarke to Stirling. Spotted him at a stirling scrimmage last night

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would think little Ben, Big Ben is headed to Rocko from all reports

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tony Ronaldson?!

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Nik Lackovic  
Years ago

Great to see all the support on here from a bunch of tough guys hiding behind fake or no names having a go at me. If you had any guts at all you would actually say some of the things written above to my face rather than posing behind some joke of an ID. Stick to Lakeside domestic comp being your career highlight whilst I'll give you a quick update of my credentials:

Multiple SBL Championships
Club MVP
Multiple Individual Accolades as a Player
NBL Player
Coaching Awards
Major role in developing juniors within my own Club

So if all of those achievements leave some of you posers to think I have an ego or apparently don't know how to beat a zone, making me the mockery of certain individuals on here, show me your long lost of failures and compare it to mine. In regards to supposed player departures for 2016, we will be announcing some key signings in the next month, so those who have left have created opportunities for new players to be welcomed into our Club and for some of our more promising juniors who I have had a lot to do with in terms of development, particularly with last years U20 & D League Squads, get their chance to progress to the State League level.

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Oh my  
Years ago

^ and this is why everyone mentions your ego.

Actual great people don't spout on about it being all about them, but you do.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm off to put some popcorn on, shit is about to get real!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nick,
Why waste your time responding to these guys.
you open yourself up to this sort of criticism. But now seeing that you brought it up yourself, I'm going to have fun watching the fish bite.

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Let's leave Nik and get a decent topic On the 2016 blog finish this year off

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