Alabama slammer please some respect.

A misquote from the OP, Wright was asked how Wiley ranks as a dunker and he provided the above response which is fair enough. Had Wiley played during the NBL's semi pro days he would have been pulling rims down like nobody's business!

*By misquote I mean quoted without proper context

Wiley has provided some of the best dunking displays so far in less than one season. If he sticks around he'll be in the mix (if he isn't all ready). He's doing it on some pretty big, athletic blokes as well.

A misquote from the OP, Wright was asked how Wiley ranks as a dunker and he provided the above response which is fair enough. Had Wiley played during the NBL's semi pro days he would have been pulling rims down like nobody's business!

Improved the topic title. If he was as good a player, I think he'd be getting more minutes!

He's a better dunker than Crawford but obviously not a better player.

Obviously on a whole different level but is a similar discussion to who is the GOAT...

It is near impossible to compare players from totally different eras.

If you could put modern day Wiley directly into the era that Crawford played, Wiley would be a far superior player with his athletic ability and skillset.

Players back then didn't have the same level of professionalism in training etc

whatever buddy, how about you input to conversation rather than critique posts...

point being there is so much difference in the game now that comparing players is near on impossible.

I agree it is impossible to compare players across eras. The rules are different enough to impact the way the game is played and how players are developed. So if Wiley played, say during 1995- he wouldn't be that good although he is an excellent athlete.. same goes for Crawford if he played today as he would be dealing with a lot more size and shooting/ ball handling bigs in the modern game.

As a dunker- Crawford definitely has him on this one I believe. I have never seen anyone on these shores who can elevate as quickly or high (at that size). Crawford used to wait until the opposition left the ground and them would be wel above them on their shot release, that’s pretty amazing regardless of any era.

I reckon he's going to develop as a player.

As for who he's dunking on it's like comparing Borner to Bogut.

JC's "problem" was that dunking was so effortless for him, and he rarely put any extra mustard on them to make them look more impressive, nor did he have any interest in using them to show up an opponent or to fire himself up. For him they were pretty much just a very-high-percentage FGA.

Its a pity Crawford isn't playing in the current era. Semi pro era or not i would have enjoyed seeing him elevating and dunking over Bogut

Couple of things.

Firstly, I have to agree with Luuuc (Luuuc, you could abreviate your name with a "w" instead of 2 of the "u"'s you use currently. Luuuc could become Lwuc or Luwc!). Crawford was oustanding in the frequency and ease of his dunks. Did it in traffic more often than not from memory. But not flash. Wiley is certainly flash but more opportunistic than "this is what I do (all the time)". More like "look what III can do (sometimes)!". Wiley great to watch, but Crawford in my team over him, that is, if they were both the same age at the same time with same set of skills.

In both cases, please accept that I am allowing for Wiley, playing "then", may not have developed some of the flash he now displays. Similarly, Crawford may have been flashier than he was in his time/environs if he was playing now (right age etc).

Secondly, I love the English language and I am pedantic as hell.
When I read the following, "Had Wiley played during the NBL's semi pro days he would have been pulling rims down like nobody's business!", couldn't help thinking that at that time, Wiley was around 25 to 30 years younger than now. I just don't see toddlers or unborns-yet "pulling rims down like nobody's business!". Can you?

Yes it's true that Crawford didn’t play as often as ex NBA guys. I do remember him going over and dunking on Winston Crite who was a fringe NBA player and about the closest we had to former NBA guys in those says. And Crite was a great athlete. Later on Branch and McClain came who had those credentials also

Ooh I missed this earlier.

If you could put modern day Wiley directly into the era that Crawford played, Wiley would be a far superior player with his athletic ability and skillset.

McClain was what 6 foot 6"? Was he a shot blocker? We now have Bogut, Boone, Long and co.

BBL and co merely step ladders

If you could put modern day Wiley directly into the era that Crawford played, Wiley would be a far superior player with his athletic ability and skillset.

Back in the 48 minute period he played in Crawford would have been on court for a good portion of the game. He also played for 2 decades. Wiley has played a portion of one season and shares the minutes much more in a 40 minute game. He isn't playing much at Center like Crawford did a lot either. Then there's the oposition they play against and the size of those guys. So don't know if blocked shots are a good comparison for the two players.

48 minute period

Then there's the oposition they play against and the size of those guys.

Wiley is not one tenth of the player JC was.

As for dunkers. Man people have short memories. Joe Hurst, Calvin Talford, Trimmingham, Mario Donaldson, Emery Atkinson, Bennett Davison, Leroy Combs, James Ennis. That's without really trying. All better dunkers.

How about Prather's dunk on Ogilvy. I'm pretty sure that dunk broke AJ.

As for dunkers. Man people have short memories. Joe Hurst, Calvin Talford, Trimmingham, Mario Donaldson, Emery Atkinson, Bennett Davison, Leroy Combs, James Ennis. That's without really trying. All better dunkers.

Bret Rainbow.

Be nice to see a compilation of these players dunks. Someone want to have a crack? Wiley definately would have some awesome clips in his short career so far.

Trimmingham probably has 10 dunks way better than any of Wileys.

Why's everyone gotta hate?
Who gives a fuck. Let’s embrace every star in their own way.

I want guys like Wiley in the NBL. Couldn’t care less if he dunked like J.C or Trimmingham.

Wiley creates highlights ( hope he has a few tonight ) and gives the NBL exposure.

This forum is full of tossers shooting everything and anyone down.

Here’s a tip for all you haters:
Embrace positivity and positive outcomes will come your way then maybe you wouldn’t be so bitter and shitcan everything.

#lifesnotthatbad

Love Wiley but he's got nothing on JC. Crawfords head was near the rim on every dunk and it was normally off one or two steps!!!

Has Wiley really dunked over the top of anyone yet?

Pffffttt.... If your talking about dunkers Billy Fikes was your man. Savage...

JC was just a phenomenal athlete. His standing jump was incredible.
People forget that he was only 6'9, but routinely outplayed much taller Centres.
Despite playing till he was almost 40 (not counting his last game for Canberra) he maintained an average of over 22 points. (Albeit in the 48 minute era.)

Copeland early exponent of the alley oop. And DiVencenzi, short time only but nasty dunker! Think he flexed a bit, too.

But some of the guards, mentioned above, were outstanding. Loved Smith.

Didn't Andrew Gaze perform the greatest dunk ever seen in the NBL, over Cecil Exum?

Threw it down so hard it resulted in legal threats years later.

Youtube search, Damian Martin dunk. If he did that today, all of Australia would be on their feet!

Surely the most iconic dunk is Gaze over "Insert NBA Players Father Name"

JC significantly shorter than 6'9". -- 6'7" was about right - in shoes.