hikikomori
Years ago

Listening in to Coaches

I speak of expletives for the listening in of coaches

One solution is: the commentators should just talk over the top of the coaches, or they shouldnt mic them up; becase its an intimate moment when a coach is trying to rev up his charges

Another thing is: why do they cross over to listening to losing coaches? Of course they'll be angry, and the chances of expletives will be higher for the coach of the losing team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Total non issue in my mind re: swearing.

Let's talk about who you think the dud coaches are based on what you hear in TV timeouts:

ADL Joey = legit
CAI Fearne = legit
MEL Dean = AIIIIGHT
NZB Vickermann = ok
PER Gleeson = ok/DUD borderline
SYD Cotter = DUD
TSV Dennis = ok
WOL Beveridge = legit

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Kobe24  
Years ago

I love the swearing, its a passionate game with a lot on the line. Your always going to get a more controversial situation out of a teams timeout that is losing. It makes for great viewing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anonymous #996 = idiot

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anonymous #010 = idiot

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Anonymous #008 = Kobe24

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Pure Silk  
Years ago

I love it.

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Perth Wilburs  
Years ago

The other team can listen to these can't they??

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Isaac  
Years ago

Some coaches look very poorly prepared for time outs. Cotter and Gleeson being two of them - need to wait until they know what they're going to say, and leave the captain to speak with players first. Wright and Bevo have both been solid.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

To me only Joey and Bevo give revelant info in the timeouts. The rest not so much and usually fill it up with garbage just to say something. Agreed Gleeson sometimes says nothing at all for what seems like most of the timeout? Demopolous guy not sure as he is new. Fearne on the other hand waaaay too much info and needs to cut it back to key points.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Isaac nicely said. You would think if the coach is quality they would be bursting at the seams to talk to their players after processing the way the game is heading and his team's deficiences from what has transpired on court? Why does it take twenty seconds to think of what to say. That is an alarm bell to me.

I remember Goorjian no timeout was long enough as he had so much input to give. He would keep talking even after the huddle would break up. And a key was when he criticised his players it was always constructive. I hate hearing a coach go off at players and not give any valuable input - what's the point - for 40mins you are at war and need tactics not naked fbombs.

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Isaac  
Years ago

I've said it before, but Smyth and Breheny would let the players sit and breathe, meanwhile standing a few metres out on the court and presumably working out what they were going to say. Then Phil would go into the huddle to speak. Some of these coaches could take something from that.

Better to have everyone remember one clear instruction than ramble awkwardly about 5-10 things and have everyone remember something different.

Didn't think Dennis was too bad tonight. Bevo seemed very clear with each of his messages.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Totally forgot but do remember Smyth and Breheny combo out on court fondly. Clever idea and two heads are better than one, merge thoughts or go with the better of the two and then go and talk to the team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I am in awe of all the coaching geniuses who have offered their two cents worth here...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Read the topic bozo. We're fans talking about what we hear the coaches say in the huddle and our opinions of it. Relax. It's the same as when we comment about what we see players do on the court.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Smyth was just listening what the real coach had to say before he passed it onto the players. Breheny was so underrated and Smyth took all the glory. Showed in the new Zealand series loss when he quit from boomers, didn't have Breheny with him, heard players say Breheny was the reason we won those titles.

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Anon  
Years ago

I dont read into time outs to determine a coaches effectiveness. If you had a post discussing who has the most effective training sessions, that's more relevant to their coaching ability. By the time the game rolls around, it's the players job to win the game. A coach can offer guidance, sure, but it's the leaders on the court that are more important come game day.

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Matt  
Years ago

Even from watching time outs you can see why so many players love playing for bevo he tells you straight down the line what he thinks the perfect example was Penney tonight.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

#559187 makes sense. Smyth was exposed in the Boomers series although it makes you wonder what due diligence BA undertook beforehand to prevent such an epic fail. Oh wait it's BA we are talking about.

#559197 We are fans on here so no access to training sessions.

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Bear  
Years ago

These coaches are just lucky the parents of these players are not there listening in on them being a bit prickly and telling them how it is...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Haha Bear.

Interested to see other ppl's summary of the eight coaches.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If someone came to your work and based their assessment of your competence on 4 to 5 isolated minutes, would that be a fair assessment of whether or not you're good at your job?

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Bear  
Years ago

Nice one anon^, so back to work people!

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KingPodge  
Years ago

I'm amazed that coaches don't swear more. You put mics in huddles at your own risk. These are grown ass men playing a grown ass game, this isn't a CWA cake sale.

(Note: grown ass women, playing a grown ass game should also be given the leeway to swear)

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Let's be honest  
Years ago

The coaches actually risk a fine by the league if they swear during the time outs, they have been put on notice about their behaviour while live and unedited on the air.

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Callisto 75  
Years ago

Why put the microphones in the huddle if u don't like swearing?

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Wilson Sting  
Years ago

The Smyth/Breheny example above is what Fearne/Downer used to do last year. I haven't paid enough attention to see if Fearne's doing that this year with Geordie (too busy hanging my head in shame and crying).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wilson would explain why Downer didn't sign a new contract as in the Post they had an article about him leaving due to contract terms. I'd say he got sick of not getting credit and no pay rise? So Fearne potentially is Smythesque... interesting.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If someone came to your work and based their assessment of your competence on 40 isolated minutes, would that be a fair assessment of whether or not you're good at your job?

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Jumpshot  
Years ago

Joey Wright: Okay in offence I want to play 135. In defence we are red on Childress, we are yellow on Cadee.

Damian Cotter: Alright ..... just hold it together... alright, alright, alright.

FFS if he says alright one more time .....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nothing was as painful as Guy Molloy.. Girls sat in silence for 50
Seconds as he read his notes.. Ref would say 10 seconds then he finally spit something out.

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King Podge  
Years ago

haha Downer left because he was sick of getting none of the credit? They worked incredibly well together.

Mick left because 1: there is only so much a regional team can afford to pay assistant coaches.

2: A guy with Mick's talent is worth a lot more than a regional team can pay him.

You wont find a better attention to detail/analytical guy than MD. outside of Lemanis I would have picked him for the Bullets job. If the Kings keep on playing like they have been he'd be my pick for the Kings job too.





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