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Dazz
Earlier this year

#40829

Can Melbourne make the Finals?

By my calculations, they need the following:

Sydney Beat Perth
Adelaide beat Cairns
Melbourne beat Perth

Cairns, MU, NZ, and Sydney all finish on 14 wins
The resulting mini-table gives:

Wins Loss
MU 7 5
Sydney 7 5
Cairns 6 6
NZ 4 8

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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:33 10 Feb 17

Reply #623857

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

What if Illawara end with 14 wins if they lose to Brisbane?

Time to revise the above.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:34 10 Feb 17

Reply #623858

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

Can Melbourne make the finals? Yes. End thread.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:37 10 Feb 17

Reply #623862

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

NBL TWITTER

By our calculations, if the Perth Wildcats beat the Sydney Kings tonight, then Melb United are out and the Cairns Taipans are a top 4 lock.




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Dazz
Earlier this year
19:39 10 Feb 17

Reply #623863

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

If Cairns win, leaving only one extra spot,
The 3-way table would be all tied up on 4 wins apiece, and barring a blowout, Sydney would get through on %.

If Perth win, then I think MU can't make it?
Best they do by beating Perth is let NZ in ahead of Perth.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:45 10 Feb 17

Reply #623868

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

So going off NBL TWITTER... if then Perth lose on Sunday who goes through - PER or NZ? Although by then MEL have nothing to play for but just interested.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:54 10 Feb 17

Reply #623869

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

It would have been cool if the league had an interactive what if results/ladder on their website for fans to tinker with the what ifs. They haven't capitalised at all on the ridiculous playoff qualification scenarios that are in play. What if? We will never know.


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PeterJohn
Earlier this year
19:59 10 Feb 17

Reply #623871

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

"if then Perth lose on Sunday who goes through - PER or NZ"

NZ would go through
Perth would have to rely on Illawarra beating Brisbane


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PeterJohn
Earlier this year
20:05 10 Feb 17

Reply #623872

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

"What if Illawara end with 14 wins if they lose to Brisbane?"

Sydney 10-6
MU 9-7 (3-1 & +5 in head-to-head with Cairns)
Cairns 9-7
Illawarra 6-10 (2-2 & +11 against NZ)
NZ 6-10


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:28 10 Feb 17

Reply #623874

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

NO


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:29 10 Feb 17

Reply #623875

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

Perth wins tonight at worst they will finish 4th. Best case is 2nd if Cairns loses in Adelaide


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:48 10 Feb 17

Reply #623878

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

Mark my words Melbourne United might make the finals this season.


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Hendo8888
Earlier this year
21:04 10 Feb 17

Reply #623881

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

"By our calculations, if the Perth Wildcats beat the Sydney Kings tonight, then Melb United are out and the Cairns Taipans are a top 4 lock."

Does that mean that we play Cairns in the first round if we beat them?


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MidRange
Earlier this year
21:14 10 Feb 17

Reply #623883

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

As an MU fan I hope this is the final kick in the guts to fix our attitude problem. We play with a percieved entitlement rather earning anything. Very frustrating year and just another year Todd Blanchfield and Majok have been wasted.


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Dazz
Earlier this year
21:15 10 Feb 17

Reply #623885

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

Not necessarily.
Still too early to call where exactly everyone will finish.


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LV
Earlier this year
21:39 10 Feb 17

Reply #623895

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

If the refs stop helping Perth and give the Kings a chance to win then yes, United are still in it.


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LV
Earlier this year
21:43 10 Feb 17

Reply #623900

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

lol at this shtyeful Perth crowd, they get about 14 calls in a row, then complain when a correct foul is whistled against them


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LV
Earlier this year
21:44 10 Feb 17

Reply #623902

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

^ wrong thread!


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
21:46 10 Feb 17

Reply #623905

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

Poor LV, Cats even dominate his mind loool


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ROFLcopter
Earlier this year
21:54 10 Feb 17

Reply #623913

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

Can United make the finals?

Who gives a toss?
United don't deserve to be there.
They play for themselves.

Fingers crossed Perf don't make it either...they don't deserve it.

I'm hoping:-
6ers
Hawks
Snakes
Breakers
Anyone can win that series....good times and looking forward to it.

United, DD, Gleeson & Wildcats are flogs!


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Vic Wildcat
Earlier this year
22:40 10 Feb 17

Reply #623968

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

I'm as confused as hell, how do Cairns go above us if we tie on the same wins, didn't we finish in front of the spread.


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Zodiac
Earlier this year
22:56 10 Feb 17

Reply #623982

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

No, Melbourne United officially eliminated now.


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K
Earlier this year
22:59 10 Feb 17

Reply #623984

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

"I'm as confused as hell, how do Cairns go above us if we tie on the same wins, didn't we finish in front of the spread"

I'm not sure if you're asking this because they are saying on the Wildcats coverage that Cairns are definitely in? If so, I think it's more that they're saying that the lowest that Cairns can finish is 4th based on the various permutations of win/loss in the upcoming games. Whether that's true or not I can't say (have given up on going more than just waiting til the round is over!).


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PeterJohn
Earlier this year
23:03 10 Feb 17

Reply #623986

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

because all teh scenarios with Cairns and Melbourne tied also have someone else tied with them. Cairns did better than Melbourne against all the other teams that might make up that multi-team mini table. So they end up with a better win-loss ratio than Melbourne in all of those possible mini-tables.


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PeterJohn
Earlier this year
23:04 10 Feb 17

Reply #623987

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

any way it's irrelevant now that Perth have beaten Sydney. Melbourne will finish 6th and Sydney 7th.

Cairns are in the playoffs.

Illawarra, NZ and Perth in the race for the last 2 playoff spots.


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Vic Wildcat
Earlier this year
23:07 10 Feb 17

Reply #623990

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

So on Sunday United win, that leaves Wildcats-United-Cairns all on the same wins. We have the points diff against both of them and we miss out.


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Dazz
Earlier this year
23:23 10 Feb 17

Reply #623996

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

So yeah, no they can't.
Only thing they can do now is knock Perth out and help NZ in.


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
23:44 10 Feb 17

Reply #624006

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

Wonder what version of Melbourne we're going to see on Sunday.
Now that it's meaningless for them it wouldn't surprise me to see CG43 go for 40+


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Btown
Earlier this year
00:05 11 Feb 17

Reply #624012

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

I'm still confused even with 2 teams knocked out lol.
So cairns is a lock with 14 but cats are not a lock on 14 even with taking the series. Assuming because of getting whooped by nz, could it mean the turnover at the end of the home game that allowed nz to hit the game winner will cost finals. Ouch.


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AC
Earlier this year
09:07 11 Feb 17

Reply #624073

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

Clearly I'm missing the obvious, but if both Cairns and Perth lose would Utd not move up to 4th based on percentage?


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paul
Earlier this year
09:37 11 Feb 17

Reply #624082

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

AC, I think that would make it a four-way tie with Perth, Cairns and NZ on 14-14, where the Taipans are 7-5, NZ 6-6, Perth 6-6 and Melbourne 5-7.


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Hendo8888
Earlier this year
10:14 11 Feb 17

Reply #624085

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

"So on Sunday United win, that leaves Wildcats-United-Cairns all on the same wins. We have the points diff against both of them and we miss out."

NZ would also have 14 wins. So they count to the mini-ladder.

If Illawarra also win, they have 15 wins, so they finish 2nd.
Mini-Ladder then has those 4 teams.
Cairns are 7-5, Perth and NZ are 6-6. So that then goes to the next step in the process, Perth are 1-3 against NZ, so they miss.

If Illawarra lose, they also have 14 wins.
Mini-Ladder has 5 teams.
Cairns are 10-6, Perth and NZ are 8-8, Illawarra and Melbourne are 7-9.


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Anon
Earlier this year
10:24 11 Feb 17

Reply #624089

re: Can Melbourne make the Finals?

Come on Brissy finish with a win. Hope the bench will be playing the 4th in Adelaide. Oh the thought of it...


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