Anonymous
Two years ago

Grand Final Series: Hawks vs Wildcats, Game 2 (Mar 1)

Game day

Cats to go 2-0 up with a 10 point plus win. Cotton to top score with 30 points.

Bring on the clean Sweep!!!

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Isaac  
Two years ago

Pretty much must-win for the Hawks. Would be tough to go down 0-2 and have to fight for survival in Perth.

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ROFLcopter  
Two years ago

Hoping the hawks win and win well to give them confidence for game 3 away.

Can't wait for tipoff. Pumped!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth by 12

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Im pretty excited for this one too. I hate Perth and am finding the hawks are really growing on me. I keep thinking back to all the title upsets in sports of late, and the Hawks have a chance to continue that trend. Of course this is a must win at home, but like their chances regardless of the consequences. Go hawks go!

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cats 4 life  
Two years ago

Why would it back an upset? Hawks by memory was in the top 2 or 3 for most of the season. They got talent as much as Perth does. If the hawks had hca would people still think Perth would be favorite?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Man your grammar is getting hard to read these days. I think due to home court, more rest, form that Perth usually show this time of year Perth sadly are the clear favourite. Look at the bookies, they have Perth to shit in. And to say they finished in the top 2-3, or where there the majority of the season, says little, most teams had a nice run at the top at some point.

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Brett M  
Two years ago

Given the two sides are about on par talent wise, and both sides have shown the ability to win on the road, the sheer volume of GF/finals experience that the Wildcats put on the floor may well be a deciding factor, even in Illawarra.

I personally think Hawks should be faves at home, but it will not surprise me at all if the Cats get up.

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PH  
Two years ago

Do we know if Harris is playing?

This is the Hawks' 3rd game in a week. Combined with the extra travel, I think that will hurt.

I also think this is a "needed" win for Perth. If they can win this, they have a good chance of sweeping the Hawks on Sunday. If this goes to 4 or 5 games, I think the Hawks can come over the top.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I just think with Prather and Cotton, who can both break open a game with ease and in a heart beat, unfortunately I see this as too big a weapon up the cats sleeve. In the past, for me its always been about the cats defence, but these guys make them a offensive issue.

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Ricky  
Two years ago

Lot of weapons in both teams.. will be tight unless a Wagstaff or Knight go off again, then it's Perth. Will have too many options on the night and have guys left open.

Forman and Coenradd are also the danger men to look out for on the wings.

Will be cracker.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Hawks fav at $1.83, Perth @ $2.02

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Agent 15  
Two years ago

With streaming the game using nbl.tv can you reqind the game to the start if its already half way through? I wont get home from work until 5:30PM so will miss the first half and dont want to wait 2 days for the replay to be uploaded...

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Agent 15  
Two years ago

* Rewind sorry

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PH  
Two years ago

yes, provided you get on before it ends.

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Ricky  
Two years ago

Yea, I was able to on the PC during Game 1..

Would've been in the middle of the third Q.

Made sure I turned the sound off and covered the score area with some paper, enough to be able to move the point back to the start of the production.

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Ricky  
Two years ago

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Agent 15  
Two years ago

Thought that was the case, as for hiding from the score... I do this all the time for NBA games... just squint the eyes and turn the volume down haha.

My next question was, if I get to the game before it ends and go back to the start, can I then pause it and play it later on? Anyone tried this?

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SteveK2  
Two years ago

Do we know if Harris is playing?


He's back and will suit up tonight.

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leungtl  
Two years ago

I'm tipping

- Hawks to win
- Rotnei +17.5 pts
- Cotton +22.5 pts
- Prather -21.5 pts

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Well I can pretty much guarantee that 3 of your predictions won't come true :p

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AC  
Two years ago

So not a single mention of tonight's grand final game on Channel 9's sport segment (Melbourne), yet AFL preseason is a hot topic.

I can't even blame it on media bias anymore, I think the onus is on the league to sell itself as a premier sporting event to the media and get this back on a more accessible free to air channel on a regular and weekly basis.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Where is John Casey :( This is a GF ffs

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Hawks hi-low great early

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Knight clanking it now thinking after that last time he is money from his jumper.. lol

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AngusH  
Two years ago

3 steps by Prather.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

All NBL teams are so soft on the road.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

...although Ogilvy clearly fouled Prather on that block on that replay.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

I may be a Hawks supporter but even more so I am an NBL fan but when the Hawks are rolling they are sure fun to watch.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Ellis just carved through the Cats "D"

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Btown  
Two years ago

No way this manic tempo keeps up.

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PH  
Two years ago

I just don't get it.

The Hawks seem to have only one defense, their 2-3 zone.
And what is Gleeson's great strategy to counteract this? ? ?
Apart from running the floor and taking hurried shots before the D is set?

A 5-game series is going to be won by the coach who is best at adapting.

I realise Gleeson is relying on the Wildcats trademark grinding-down of the opposition, but how far can he let the lead blow-out?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

No surprise. Gleeson is a dud in the perfect job.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Codey Ellis keeping Perth in the game

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Very Old  
Two years ago

has Perth already signed Ellis ?

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Very Old  
Two years ago

can these two commentators talk about anything other than themselves ?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Heal on every game especially playoffs is a joke.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

As a completely impartial Kings fan, I respectively disagree with you both. ;)

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Heal was on the first Kings championship team :P

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

what a flop

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Even Prather can only laugh at that joke of a call

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Fool  
Two years ago

Lol.... charge eh?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Now that's a flop and a half

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Btown  
Two years ago

How were feet set on that charge

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Fool  
Two years ago

They were set on a backward jumping trajectory. Does that count as being set?

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Wildcats80  
Two years ago

Where have these Illawarra fans been all year. Talk about bandwagon fans.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Have there been bad crowds in Illawarra this year? I haven't noticed on their broadcasts.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Ok lets all focus on the one shit call of the half.

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Fool  
Two years ago

Bandwagon or not. Its good to have more people on here

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I've been to the Gong before for Game 2 of 2010 GF series. They locals all openly admitted to me they only come for Grand Final games... lol

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GordonG  
Two years ago

"Where have these Illawarra fans been all year. Talk about bandwagon fans. "

'Anyone but Perth'. Me, I couldn't care, I'm watching a fun series of GF (which unfortunately we're not a part of)

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

Cats are relying on Prather to score too much. I know Cotton has 3 fouls but Matt Knight isn't even getting involved on offense.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Prather's handle looks real shaky tonight.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Not bad only a 5pt game. Hawks feels like should be ahead by more.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Happy to escape that half down just 5.
Cotton's foul trouble hurt. Hawks did a great job of going at him.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Does Prather dropping the shoulder factor in on the call? Obviously it does/did, but does the rule book factor that kind of thing in?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Brandt has been good

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Brandt sure has been good.

As the earlier poster said it feels like the Hawks should be further in front. AJ really keeping his head down and playing well, Rotnei on point, Cotton sitting and not scoring much and its still close.

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Btown  
Two years ago

Hawks look a lot more impressive than the cats, surprised only a few points in it. Anything could happen, cotton's 4th quarters have been impressive when cats are down so ill hold on to that hope if it comes to that.

Brandt stepping up to fill the bench points stat that is so desperately needed.
Clarke looks to be the most determined player on court.

I can't be the only person to cringe at Ogilvy's shooting motion regardless of the result

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AC  
Two years ago

Also on the "anyone but Perth" bandwagon.

Rotnei is a WEAPON. Hoping Illawarra can hold out this game, would be near impossible returning to Perth at 0-2.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I think hawks will run away with this. Perth faithful seemingly happy with this half time score are in denial I'd say. Hawks behind Clarke don't seem to stop once they get starts like this, as a 36er fan trust me on that.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Ouch. There's Prather's 3rd

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Double ouch

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

Well there goes Knight to another injury.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Wow. Knight ANOTHER concussion

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Btown  
Two years ago

Well Brandt's time to shine

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Btown  
Two years ago

Aside from the KO where was the foul on prather

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Green 53  
Two years ago

Must have thought the hit on the backboard was a foul

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Btown  
Two years ago

Wow refs gone from only calling decent fouls to calling anything. Can't even be consistent within the same game

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

McKay with a sneaky alternate 4 point play lol

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Cats getting some other contributions now. Good stuff

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Hawks do many things well....boxing out is not one of them

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Green 53  
Two years ago

Redhage looking very lost on the court

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Btown  
Two years ago

Omg waited for contact and none came

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Game on

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Perth putting the strangle hold on.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Outside of that easy high/low basket a few mins ago, Ellis has been as responsible for the Hawks going into the 4th down than any Wildcat, on both ends of the court.

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Btown  
Two years ago

Prather dribbling like the ball has helium in it, it's the reverse of the tom Brady deflategate lol

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Yeah. I'm not a fan. At least Oscar spreads the d

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perth has not won a road GF game since 2000

WTF... yet so many titles

Goes to show how soft road sides are

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

That's a flop yet Coenrads was a charge before. Alright

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Btown  
Two years ago

That's a ton of contact

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

HaHaHa

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

I know it was Flophage, but that was not a flop. That's a costly fuckup

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AngusH  
Two years ago

lol... maybe the first time in his long career that Redhage has actually *not* flopped and been called for it?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

So Redhage finally gets called for a flop... on a clear charge. These refs are pathetic

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Only took 36 or so seasons for Redhage's reputation to catch up with him.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Wagstaff flop! Boooooooooo!

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Wildcats80  
Two years ago

Classy crowd in Wollongong. Disgraceful

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

These commentators are embarassing

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Damoooooooo

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AngusH  
Two years ago

I wish the Hawks played like this vs Adelaide.

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MACDUB  
Two years ago

Perth are the superior team in this series. No doubt about it in mind. The Hawks rely so much (too much) on making shots.

Suggest people get used to the thought of Perth winning another title.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Sixers made the donkey Hawks look good.

Sad not an ADL PER final

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Perth just grind it out so well and with the class of Prather and Cotton they only need a few others to help on offense.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Damooooo

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

This is the easiest championship for the Wildcats since they beat the Hawks in 2010.

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TimberBall  
Two years ago

It's funny how we are the Cats but the Gong has all the ferals

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

When Demo's hitting threes you're pretty much screwed. Normally you're happy to give those looks up.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Prathoooo

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Can't we all just agree that Perth and Illawarra both have their fair share?

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

Clean sweep for the Wildcats. Doesn't even seem like a GF series. Boring.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Two years in a row where we've had a great regular season followed by an awful finals matchup.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Harsh. This has been a good game so far

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AC  
Two years ago

Hawks now playing that 4th Quarter Panic Ball

Can't stomach another Perth victory.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

This is more boring than 2010. yawn At least Hawks won their home game back then.

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J  
Two years ago

Martin and prather with bullshit 4th fouls. Pathetic

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Flashback to 2000 GF... those were the days :(

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Dewey Michaels sighting!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Bring back the Titans

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

I wish they'd show a flashback to when the 36ers won the championship, whenever that was I can't remember.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

Martin has done it again.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Is that Martin or Curry. Mmmmm

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

No team is beating Perth if Martin goes 4/5

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Btown  
Two years ago

marto bang bang BANG

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J  
Two years ago

Another phantom foul. Aj gifted another call

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

From my tenuous perspective, I wonder why anyone would doubt Perth deserve to be 2017 champions.
I think all the 8 teams have found their rightful precipitation level.
2017.
Best season ever.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

AJ is not a marquee player

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Playoffs have been boring though. Taipans choke. Sixers choke, now Hawks choke.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

I don't even think Adelaide choked, Illawarra just played really well, and shot the ball really well.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

At half time I was all ready to praise AJ for showing more heart than I thought he had.
He's been pretty spudly this half though.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

We choked.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

No. Randle hero ball gave Hawks the series.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

Conehead bahahahahahahaha

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

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re: Grand Final Series: Hawks vs Wildcats, Game 2 (Mar 1)

I think hawks will run away with this. Perth faithful seemingly happy with this half time score are in denial I'd say. Hawks behind Clarke don't seem to stop once they get starts like this, as a 36er fan trust me on that.



Nostradamus

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

Series over. Yawn.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Randle talking it up and then not delivering in Illawarra by overly forced hero ball due to crowd on him = choked

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Johnson, where art thou?

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Too good. Disappointed because it might mean only one more game to watch.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

How can a pro have a shot as ugly as AJ's? dafuq

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AC  
Two years ago

In a parallel universe Illawarra take this to a 5 game series and clean up. This is not that universe.

Looking forward to next season and hopefully Perth miss the finals altogether.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

So much of this game is in the mind.
Hawks just did not seem to have the belief in the 2nd half, and I don't know why, coz they can flat out play.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Last eight years or so no competition for NZ or Perth. Shame on you other NBL clubs.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Wortho voice = not for TV... or radio... or anything... lol

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Very Old  
Two years ago

well, Hawks have to go 3 -0 for the rest of the games to win , and do it on 2 perth home games. Got to say its unlikely, but...

what a series if they at least make it to the 5th game.

be good for the NBl if they do...

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

The series is over. Let's be realistic here and not run with the "what ifs" and "it's not over until it's over" crap...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Imagine if Perth had not recruited Cotton.

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Btown  
Two years ago

Hawks played with 1/10 the aggression of the first quarter after the quarter time break.

Martin mr clutch, wagstaff became a beast defensively after knight went down and hit important 3s.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Soft and weak Hawks. How can you not be up for a GF.

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Btown  
Two years ago

"The series is over. Let's be realistic here and not run with the "what ifs" and "it's not over until it's over" crap..."

Meme alert: warriors blew a 3-1 lead

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Vic Wildcat  
Two years ago

Great win considering i don't think we played that well. Too many turnovers , hopefully we can tidy that up and get the W on Sunday for No 8.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Yep, if the Cats are up 3-1 I certainly won't be counting my chickens after what the Cavs did.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

I thought we were pretty good from the latter part of the 1st Q. Maybe not fluent and pretty, but considering the Hawks pressure I thought we played a really tough game.

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Kyrie2Nation  
Two years ago

As a Cavs fan I see where people are coming from but this is 2 completely teams in a different league. The Wildcats are far superior experience wise and that's a huge reason they're 2-0 up.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Btown fail!

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J  
Two years ago

Wagstaff can defend, who knew.

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DaHuzyBru  
Two years ago

carn the mighty cats!!!!!!

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Btown  
Two years ago

There's been bigger upsets than this, all I'm sayin. I may be a cats fan, but I'm also a st.kilda footy fan, pessimism comes with the territory of being a saints fan :p

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

As an nbl fan can't help but wonder just how much adelaide shot themsevws in the foot and choked a title up. Perth look okish but definitely beatable, but these Hawks played their GF in the semi final series and celebrated accordingly. They were elated and for good reason but feel like they knew then they had already overachieved. Cats will win number 8 meh... Dazz will be happy somewhere out there

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LV  
Two years ago

Just think, Perth were one Melbourne United 3 pointer away from missing the playoffs just over a fortnight ago. Now they look almost certain to win the title.

Yet another example of a great truth of sports. It doesn't matter who the best team is during the regular season. It doesn't even matter who looks like the 'team to beat' at any stage. It's all about finding form at the right time.

Western Bulldogs were a great example of this, and now we have another.

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LV  
Two years ago

(Likely) have another. Lest I speak too soon. Carn Hawks!!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Bored with it all after all the sackings, buyins, injuries for other teams that can't afford to replace players with talent like Cats can and all the who is replacing who crap.. And where are the rules, the review dodgy inequality, the reffing, the lack of transparency. Season was done before finals started with so much going on across so many teams.. Thinking many across the nation shut off after soke of the decisions made by NBL of late. Too buay watching NBA trades, injuries and Westbrook !!!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

When do we find out how much luxury tax this title has cost the Cats?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

lol seems like a bit of a salty excuse to me. Plenty of other big spenders this year and teams making changes. Pre-Cotton we were all asking the question of where the Wildcats were actually spending their money. They didn't seem to be bringing in the big guns like some other teams were and throwing cash around at big names like we knew they could afford to.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

"Yet another example of a great truth of sports. It doesn't matter who the best team is during the regular season. It doesn't even matter who looks like the 'team to beat' at any stage. It's all about finding form at the right time."


That would make a daylight call half way through the season look quite stupid then I guess.

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PH  
Two years ago

I suppose Perth did outspend Illawarra but I doubt they outspent Sydney or Melbourne

"As an nbl fan can't help but wonder just how much adelaide shot themsevws in the foot and choked a title up. Perth look okish but definitely beatable, but these Hawks played their GF in the semi final series and celebrated accordingly. They were elated and for good reason but feel like they knew then they had already overachieved. Cats will win number 8 meh... Dazz will be happy somewhere out there"

Agree with those points.
Adelaide clearly the best team all year should have made the Grand Final and it would have been a great battle. Perth with Cotton have proven the advantage of coming good at the right time.

I also think we cant overlook the finals experience of Perth.

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Btown  
Two years ago

To be fair the worst part of the cats season was during martins injury. If not for that they probably would have cleared 2nd on the ladder.

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Udog  
Two years ago

Illawarra look like they're lucky to be there. Did well to make the grand final I guess so well done. Out in 3 is my prediction though.

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Isaac  
Two years ago

Perth just hustled and hustled and it paid off. Didn't like Illawarra's subs much. Harris looked tired almost from the start (-16 in 12 minutes). Oscar hit a three and didn't get much more time - find him more shots while he's out there?

Sometimes you play to the scouting report and a player gets hot (Martin in this game) but there's not much excuse for soft passing that makes for easy steals. It was a close enough game at times that a couple of these were enough to swing it.

Once down about 5, Illawarra kinda looked like they expected to lose. The commentators commented on the bench being lifeless.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Standard 3rd quarter performance from the hawks yet again.

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Sam  
Two years ago

Why the hell is Bevo kids on the bench hi 5 players, it's the grand final.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

does anyone else hate how long it always takes the NBL to post a post game update on facebook? Straight after a game is when people would be most active on social media looking to like, share, comment etc on a game and the outcome. Both clubs and even some media outlets have already made posts, while the NBL only just did... an hour after the game.

Would help them in the future imo to get something up asap to help reach a wider audience and spread the brand. Social media is basically free advertising, getting something up right away and having people comment and like it helps it reach a lot of people.

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Ricky  
Two years ago

Love how Kenny ended up on the press conference like he was man of the match..

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Bol  
Two years ago

^^^^ Haha yeah Ricky i was thinking the same thing

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Perths best player was Ellis. Geez.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Illawarra's 3 best players were the refs

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Bol  
Two years ago

The adversity the cats have faced throughout the year has held them in good stead these finals. They are just playing with cool heads and drawing on their experience to get the job done. Even when they were 11 down they looked at ease and just turned the screws in the third. If they can tidy up the turnovers game 3 will be a blowout. The hawks' up tempo game plan is impossible to maintain with all the travel they have done. Tonight in the second half they looked spent!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cotton's recruitment changed the game. Marvin worked extremely hard to close him. Well done Marvin.

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Fool  
Two years ago

Anon do you really think the refs cost illawarra. The calls were bad all night. But the dubious non existant calls actually did favour the hawks.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I feel like game 3 could quickly turn into party time in the Jungle. You'd think the Hawks would have lost a lot of their motivation and belief while the Cats will be hungry to close it out at home. Once the Cats get a sniff of a lead and go on a run, I wouldn't be surprised if Hawks drop off like they did tonight and it turns into party time while the cats run away with it easily.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Agree with the above anon just like my 36ers were destroyed in game 3 in '14 I can't see the Hawks putting up any fight next up. Why would we think otherwise? Pure hope? One eyed support? Sure but reality is this was their chance to extend the series make the cats think and stress especially if knight is out, instead theybwere embarrased in that second half from a 'have a crack show some heart' point of view. Not all losses have to be a blow out to be embarrassing ala my 6ers last Thursday.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Doesn't help that Hawks lost a star player to go back home to critically ill dad. Stayed for game against Sixers just to help them through bit that now leaves the NBL with a poor GF series. Would have better for Sixers to go through on a prayer they would kick in to gear and give everyone a fantastic 5 games.. That was lost and hasn't done the NBL any favours to end a great season... Boring now.. Bet the viewing is down and site hits sliding..

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Sweep.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Fool, read the comment, I was stating that the refs calls favoured the Hawks.

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Pizza Hut  
Two years ago

Can the Hawks bounce back from here?
Logic, tradition, and stats say no.

Next question - can they bounce back enough to make a fight of it?

If Knight can't play, does that give the Hawks hope?

"Once down about 5, Illawarra kinda looked like they expected to lose. The commentators commented on the bench being lifeless."

Too True
I know the Wildcats have a history of grinding teams down, but other teams have taken them right to the wire and won.

How do Illawrra start out dominating the boards then just seem to tire?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Marvell's Harris is NOT a star player hahaha sad situation and all but hardly a go to guy for the hawks.

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Udog  
Two years ago

Oh well. It was a good regular season.

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J  
Two years ago

Cats had plenty of adversity, some unfortunate all 3 pgs out at the same time, some from poor decisions ( import rotation). However they persevered and got through. They made a very unpopular call letting Johnson go the second time, can anyone blame them now, imagine if sydney and Melbourne used as much due diligence and made the tough calls when replacing there imports.

It very well could have being sydney then daylight, lol.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Marvelle starred in Game 2/3 and had an impact.. No denying that.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cats by about 40 in game 3.

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Vic Wildcat  
Two years ago

The limited minutes for Oscar is fine by me, when he gets on a role he can seriously shoot. He seems to hit a shot and then goes to the bench, plus i'm sure he could help on the boards. So i'm happy he's sitting for extended periods :)

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Lost In The Sky  
Two years ago

Fantastic road win by the Cats!!

As LV said, All a club has to do is make the playoff's to be in with a shot of winning... Then it is totally about finding form at the right part of the season.

The Wildcats have done just that and the Cotton signing has definitely turned things around. But saying the reason the Cats are 1 win away from another title solely due to Cotton is totally wrong. Damo is back at his best, Prather is injury free and killing it, Wagstaff coming up with huge plays at crucial times, Brandt in career best form.

As to being over the cap.. I'm not sure what the Cats are paying Cotton.. But I'm pretty sure Nick Marvin has said we tried to stick pretty close to the cap as the Cats didn't want to pay luxury tax. No doubt Cotton would have tipped us over by a little bit, but no where near the insane Sydney or Melbourne numbers.

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Brett M  
Two years ago

Redhage will come off the salary situation, and if we're being realistic, possibly Matty Knight. Hopefully that means we can keep Cotton and give Brandt a deal that will keep him around long term.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Brandt has a two year deal

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Ricky  
Two years ago

With Lucas Walker still hanging around, it's a good chance he'll be in Redhages spot next year.. what a luxury to have available to do.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

Bit rich from those posters belittling the Hawks achieving what they have.

Sure they have faded badly in the second half of both GF games but they have made the GF on their own merits and dealt with Adelaide on the way.

The way they play the game at such a high tempo has probably taken some sting out of them at the back end of games.

They aren't far away from being a championship team. (by some miracle they might still be).

Replace either Harris with Craig or Hollyfield with McKay and their rebounding and defensive shortcomings would be far less noticeable. Perth have demonstrated how much difference one star import added can make and I am not even talking superstar here.

Cant take anything away from Perth. Solid veterans led by arguably the toughest competitor to ever play the game(note I'm not talking talent)and one of the best import duos in a long long time.

Just hoping for a underdog victory in game 3 to extend the series.











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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Serious question marks over crap Hawks recruiting though. 2/3 of their imports flat out suck. It has cost them a ring. Sucks to have a good Aussie core + Rotnei with those two.

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Maxymoo  
Two years ago

Bloody great effort to get there by Bevo - lost the Killer K's and still make a GF.

Bevo just needs to upgrade @ the power import spots and keep that core together.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I think Bevo wanted a different import. But ownership forced him into the big (Holyfield)

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Wow really? Sucks for Bevo. Holyfield is awful, must be cheap.

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leungtl  
Two years ago

Looks like it'll be a very healthy crowd on Sunday, just single seats left!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

What was the crowd at the Gong? Sellout?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Norton
White
Coenraad
Kay
Ogilvy

Not a starting 5 I expected to be competing for an NBL championship this season with all the talent around.

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leungtl  
Two years ago

Martin
Rotnei
Harris
Ellis/Forman
Holyfield

That bench could go with anyone though.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"What was the crowd at the Gong? Sellout?"

They said 5k during the telecast, not sure of the exact number

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GordonG  
Two years ago

@FSTOS "Bit rich from those posters belittling the Hawks achieving what they have."

Yep, same ones who were dissing the Taipans.

I think it's actually showing just how good the Wildcats are this season - just took them a while to get their act together.

But all credit to them, they're about as together as they need to be, aren't they? Sweep Cairns, possibly sweep Hawks - either way they've won the four in a row that actually matter at this end of the season.

There's always next year... (*crosses fingers*)

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

More like Taipans & Hawks stunk. I know they are regional teams but if you as the fans don't demand better and accept mediocrity you'll keep getting the same crap dished out to you.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

so anything but the title is mediocrity and the teams suck.

You really are a clueless fwit.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

It was more directed at Taipans, man they choked. Enjoy being the only club with no title.

Hawks I guess benefitted from Randle hogball. But then you make the GF and come out like that in your first game at home? Pathetic. Enjoy.

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Thunder Jam  
Two years ago

I hope you can find the other half of your brain!

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

In my opinion Adelaide, Hawks and United when rolling were just sensational to watch this season. As good on the eye as any for a long time.

There have been so many other great games in this incredible (yeah the playoffs have been a little one sided)and every team has played their part. To crap on about how poor some teams are shows you have little concept for reality or knowledge of the NBL.

None of the easy on the eye comments are meant to be a criticism of Perth who one cant help to admire because of their commitment to getting the W and the crowds they get game in game out.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

"It was more directed at Taipans, man they choked. Enjoy being the only club with no title.

Hawks I guess benefitted from Randle hogball. But then you make the GF and come out like that in your first game at home? Pathetic. Enjoy."

I rest my case your Honour.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Commitment comes down to club culture. Perth have it, the rest don't, despite the horrible style of ball played they win as they don't accept mediocrity. Hence the playoffs have sucked as no other teams (excl. NZ) seem to have it at this stage of the season and fall over. Hence constant Perth or NZ titles rinse repeat.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

You really think every club doesn't want to win. Perth have a very solid core AND have been the beneficiary of a benevolent benefactor who liked to win to such an extent that he provided enough resources to build the team. This got them through the period until the new arena allowed the club to be more self sufficient.

I am sure the Hawks would have loved to dump Holyfield and Bring in say Josh Boone or Harris and bring in someone of Cotton's standard.

If you really believe that is to do with culture and not $$$ you are a bigger tool than I thought.

People on here generally don't like Perth, they dislike smug fwits who gloat on here when they win or whine about refs etc whenever the team l dropping a game.

Your culture was a point or two away from not even making the playoffs. Get a freeking grip.

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FSTOS  
Two years ago

I meant to say "people om here generally don't dislike Perth"

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Good points but you've got it wrong as I HATE the Perth gloating, but have to admit they are delivering.

I'm a neutral who has been saddened by the one-sidedness of the playoffs. I wanted to see someone bring Perth down. Also last eight season NZ Perth NZ Perth... so boring. But money talks sadly but do we really know how much more $$$$ these clubs spend vs. the rest? It is all speculation.

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Isaac  
Two years ago

I think one issue with the Hawks imports was that Harris started the season well, while Rotnei was struggling. The latter however was on a two year deal, so he'd be expensive for a community club to cut.

When they might have noticed the chance for an upgrade on Harris (no idea if they were of this view, just that I was) they had made their way to second spot on the ladder. Why mess with the roster then? Bit like Ferguson being pretty deficient but starting through the Sixers strong run and being part of the top regular season team.

And then with Holyfield, they already had essentially four local bigs, so where do you spend your third import? End up with two import SFs along with Coenraad? They had PG covered.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't retain either of Harris or Holyfield, but I can see how/why they didn't get replaced.

I think SG/SF is right for one spot, but ideally someone more experienced. And then a big that gives them a different look - Holyfield not far off that being exclusively an inside player.

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Isaac  
Two years ago

It is all speculation.
There's speculation and then there's informed speculation.

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Pizza Hut  
Two years ago

I don't think Cairns stunk or choked. They did well to make the playoffs ahead of most of the big budget teams. Only I feel their 2nd placing suggested they were better than they were.
The wildcats knew they had to win on the road and it would make their job easier if they did it in game 1.

I also feel that there have been 3 wildcat teams; the middle-ground team with Johnson, the injury ravaged team, and now with Cotton. If they'd had him all year it would have been a different look and we might have been expecting this.

Plus also we are missing the best team. Adelaide with HCA would have been hard to beat in a 5-game seris.

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Ricky  
Two years ago

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Isaac  
Two years ago

Plus also we are missing the best team. Adelaide with HCA would have been hard to beat in a 5-game seris.


I also think Adelaide would've been more dangerous to Perth than Illawarra. Both teams are good at their best, but Adelaide just tended to be at their best more often.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

A neutral but you hate Perth? Makes sense....

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Not hate just bored of them or NZ winning constantly.

Who knew neutrals weren't allowed to get bored...

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PH  
Two years ago

I am a Perth fan, so of course I want them to win, but even I must admit this is getting old. If the Wildcast win that will 3 out of the last 4 and no signs of them slowing down

It was a great season so I really hope next year is another corker and there is stiff competition for the championship.

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Agent 15  
Two years ago

There kind of is signs of them slowing down... this season they scraped through and got lucky with the Hawks beating the sixers. Damo & Matty Knight surely dont have many seasons left in them, also Redhage set to retire. The core players are starting to come to an end and with that the club could also start to struggle to continue this dominance.

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PH  
Two years ago

That's true, of this playing group.
I suppose I was referring to the organisation as a whole. It's hard to secure good local players, but I feel the Wildcats would have the chequebook out.
It's not like AFL where you have to go to the draft and then spend 5 years developing the players.

Only stumbling block would be if there was too much turnover. If suppose they needed two new locals and all new imports because the others got better offers.
Even then I suppose they would be competitive.

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Ricky  
Two years ago

I'm sure Perth will beable to lure decent Aussie talent over once Damo, Matty and Wagstaff retire given the history and allure (money + success) of the organisation..

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

@FSTOS

'You really think every club doesn't want to win.'
Yes all teams want to win but do they take the necessary steps to win? This is like saying everyone wants to be a millionaire, but some believe Centrelink is their ticket whilst some will go out, get a qualification then a good job.

'Perth have a very solid core AND have been the beneficiary of a benevolent benefactor who liked to win to such an extent that he provided enough resources to build the team. This got them through the period until the new arena allowed the club to be more self sufficient. '
James Spenceley is the Hawks' benevolent benefactor is he not? He maynot have the net worth of Bendat but he is worth more than enough to take care of the Hawks.

Putting aside money for a moment, there certainly is an element of culture at work with the Wildcats. They seem to have a continual pursuit of excellence. Case in point, JJ ---> Ingram ---> JJ ---> Cotton. They knew they'd cop flak and look bad but they were willing to do the hard yards and admit they were wrong and try something else.

Lets take your beloved Hawks 2014. Spenceley spent money to bring Jahii Carson in, next to Gary Ervin of all players. That failed miserably, but they kept with the same formula until it was too late.

See the difference? Thats not just money, thats a mindset.

I am sure the Hawks would have loved to dump Holyfield and Bring in say Josh Boone or Harris and bring in someone of Cotton's standard. '
Yes but the Hawks didn't despite having the backing of Spenceley.

'Your culture was a point or two away from not even making the playoffs. Get a freeking grip.'
This point I agree with, those openly boasting about the Cats should recognise how perilously close they came to not making it at all. In fact in 2015, the DeAndre Daniels year, they had to rely on MU spluttering at the end to make the playoffs, only to be swept.

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