knowledge4all
Two years ago

BigV 2018

Its that time of year again!!!

Julie Anderson has stepped down as BigV CEO so interesting to see who takes up the new role...

Obvious news is that Diamond Valley and Melbourne will be playing in SEABL for the 2018 year. Keilor & Blackburn D1M have made the move to go up to SCM with Whittlesea being relegated to D1M and Collingwood being promoted to D1M.

Billie Lucas (Chelsea D1W) & Tanarly Hood (Latrobe City D1W) have made the move to SCW with the Casey Cavaliers.

Would be great to hear of rumored signings and possible player movements.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Melton Men relegated to Div 2, Ivan Harris has joined Keilor.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Macabbi back in D2M

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Luke  
Two years ago

Casey d2w, not scw. Went the other way from d1

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BB  
Two years ago

Hearing that Coburg D2M have recruited well in the off season.

Partially expecting Bulleen to struggle a bit this season unless they manage to get another strong import or retain Bozeman. Sunderland is probably a bigger loss than most people on here would think.

Seems to have been a quieter offseason than usual. Interested to see what Blackburn's championship men squad will look like.

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gelder  
Two years ago

Casey Womens still D1!

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Dione58  
Two years ago

Sunbury SCW seem like they will be keeping their core in O'Relliy, Stevens, Stockill and Burns. But need to find replacement for Duever who is out for the season after doing her ACL at the WNBL level.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

All the NBL refs are in Big V for 2018.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Bozeman signed at Waverley hasn't he ??

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Blackburn might need one or two additions but if they can retain the same squad from last season I think that will be good enough to be competitive and win 5-7 games in my opinion.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Blackburn will add an import at least, maybe even 2 if they have the budget.

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anonymous  
Two years ago

The McKinnon Cougars have announced their imports for season 2018.

SCM returning import players Dillon Stith and Dondray Walker along with SCW player Ariel Thomas and new import Megan Kritscher.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I would think that Blackburn will be fairly competitive in SCM if they retain the majority of their squad from 2017. Adding an import or two will help them a lot

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Coach Rogers looks like he is rebuilding the Sherbrook program

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Chelsea D1 men looking near unbeatable

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Thebear  
Two years ago

Must of recruited a number of damn good players.
Who are they

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

So who else have Chelsea got ??

I have heard Standerfer, Brasser, Jake Martin and John King which is good but certainly not unbeatable....

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Jake martin has signed at goldfield in WA.
John king , the guy that emails or calls every club in the country every year but never seems to play?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

It'll be very interesting to see how Sherbrooke go this season under coach Rogers. Known for his recruiting, will he utilize some of their VYCM player and promote them to play D2M? Miraflores is a good signing but one has to question as to why he has been to so many clubs?

The signing of Nikoloff is a good one. He can shoot the ball and given the opportunity he will do well.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Standerfer looking to get citizenship so they can add an import....

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Thebear  
Two years ago

So,it's just hot air

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

LMAO @ John King

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Thebear  
Two years ago

Time for the big fella to come back to the gulls ,vlad tandov

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

John King will be a permanent resident soon.

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Thebear  
Two years ago

Do all coaches have to hold a working with children's card.?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

John King will tear D1 a apart.. guy can seriously play. Why is he playing D1 at Chelsea? They must be spending $$$$$$$$$

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Z  
Two years ago

Chelsea have also added a few others. They obviously are trophy hunting. Should have gone up to SCM like they were told to.

"Fishing in a small lake with a ton of dynamite"

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

@ Thebear, Why do you ask.

Think most would have a WWC card regardless of the rules.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

What are you basing John king 'tearing' d1 apart on? There is a reason no club picks him up every season. Guy would be a role player if he was a local.
Biggest problem for Chelsea is if they think it's going to be a cake walk because they licked their way into a gf. If bulleen didn't lose martin Chelsea would have finished 4th and been knocked out in week one of finals playing keilor. New season, new teams, everyone starts 0 - 0. The problem chelsea have is that they have to start or first sub is a player who has no impact on the game whatsoever. Depth will be an issue. Corey will still carry them to top 4. God help them if he misses games through injuries.

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Thebear  
Two years ago

So,if a coach loses,or has his WWCC taken from him,is he entitled to continue on?
Very interested and concerned.it saddens me how organisations sweep problems under the carpet.
They should come out on the front foot and let everyone know what action(s)have been taken.
This would be in the best interest of the sport and the public in general

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Thebear  
Two years ago

So,if a coach loses,or has his WWCC taken from him,is he entitled to continue on?
Very interested and concerned.it saddens me how organisations sweep problems under the carpet.
They should come out on the front foot and let everyone know what action(s)have been taken.
This would be in the best interest of the sport and the public in general

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

John king has turned down offers every season as they didn't suit him. This does so he will play.

D1M will be much much weaker next year. Chelsea will be a fair bit stronger, you work it out.

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aaa  
Two years ago

Pakenham men and yl will be very very strong again this year.

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anonymous  
Two years ago

Chelsea will have the same team so how will they be stronger? They should of lost to Melbourne Uni in the semi's. They have a superstar in Standerfer but if properly scouted they had nothing else after that. Basically it was showed by Keilor and other teams they lost to last year.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

What are people's view on how Collingwood will go in D1M?

One would assume being a inner city club, they won’t have much trouble in recruiting players from all regions of Melbourne.

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anonymous  
Two years ago

Manny Hendrix is a very good player for Collingwood and already has the experience at the D1 level so he should do fine but they will need to recruit some solid bigs to be really competitive.

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A  
Two years ago

If they feel the need to add another import then obviously they don't have faith in the team they had last season.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

DV's big recruitment announcement Meg Crupi

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anonymous  
Two years ago

^^^^^^^^^^Did you forget that DV is in SEABL???

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Surely Corio Bay will drop out of SCM, they will probably struggle to win a game if they stay there?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Do BigV clubs hold open tryouts?

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Southern Joe  
Two years ago

Whittlesea seemed to.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

How does someone join a SCM team?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Keep checking league and club websites or facebook pages for Big V open trials.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Nick Ross is on the look out for a new club after giving Pakenham the news that he will not be returning in 2018.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Haha, that's funny if you know

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Thanks Nick.....

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

wow...,,

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New Sting  
Two years ago

@659086 Corio Bay has a new coach Paul Hutchinson rumor around Geelong of big things happening. I believe they are playing SCM.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Rumour is rubbish, competition teams have been decided a while ago, Geelong are in Div 1 Men and Corio Bay are in SCM where they have been forever...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I think he's referring to rumours around Geelong, about Corio which is in Geelong, and playing in SCM

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"New Sting" is probably Hutchy himself

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New Sting  
Two years ago

Thanks 247 that is what I meant...CB looking impressive if the rumors are correct.

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Anon  
Two years ago

Nick ross to hawthorn

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Who is nick Ross??

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

If you ask Nick he's a combo guard similar skill set to Kyrie except with a better 3 ball.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Blackburn will surprise teams, very versatile and if Jack Roberts sticks around they'll likely be mid table. Won't be adding imports just not their style or budget, all the blokes have played there for years though so chemistry is top notch compared to a lot of teams that cobble rosters together each season.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Has the players Blackburn have picked up over the past couple of seasons from Sherbrooke, Warrandyte etc also played there for years ??

The sides that have to battle and "cobble rosters together" ensure there is a competitive and viable competition.

Who would the likes of Blackburn play against if some of these battling clubs didn't make the effort to "cobble rosters together" ??

These clubs do a very good job from what is usually not an ideal situation !!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I am hearing Hawthorn have signed Nelson Kirksey, interesting if true, hope they have done their homework....

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

What happened with Nelson at Kilsyth?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Didn't make them better. Good athlete. Got boards. Needed buckets. They needed a 6'3" electric guard that could score from the perimeter. He wasn't that. They had better balance when they played the young shooters. That was my view from the outside.

Could be really good in the right team with the right balance of players around him, especially at Big V.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Okay, so what are those rumors about Corio Bay that will make them competitive again in SCM after they could hardly win a game last season? Hutchy is 40+ and will not make any impact on court, he may be a decent coach but he is no Mark leader, so where is the improvement coming from not they lost Reardon and Hicks?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Stingrays will be competitive but I don't think they will challenge the top teams. Hard to replace a stud like Hicks who dominated Champ Men and doing well back in SEABL. Stingrays should have dropped a division in my opinion. Talk is only one import which will make things even harder for the "RAYS"

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

What has gone 'wrong' within the Stringrays camp over the last year to cause all this? Firstly, losing Reardon to Waverley and then Hicks to Geelong SEABL.

Is there some underlining factor that has caused this?

O'Leary only coached them for a season and appears not to have retained the top job, although he may have just been care taking.

Why this fall from grace?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Was always not very sustainable model. Once key guys would leave/retire they were going to struggle.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Are there any practice games lined up before Christmas?

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anonymous  
Two years ago

Every team needs some years to redevelop and improve. Thats why I don't agree with the relegation system the BigV applies. I'm pretty sure Eltham finished last a few times and they were never relegated.......Give Corio some time to fix things. Players change teams all the time albeit the Reardon situation but remember they entered the Comp in 2012 and made finals in its first year. Won in 2013, lost in the Granny 2014, winning in 2015, lost in the Granny in 2016 and struggled mightily in 2017.

So I think they can have a few years to develop so local youth and Hutchy will be a good coach for them.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Any practice games results so far?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

The big question is who can knock of Ringwood... very consistent and with a floor general in Snowball I just don't see them not making the grand final series for another year. Waverley will be around the mark but who else.

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anonymous  
Two years ago

Ringwood are only getting older. Depending on what imports they get this year will be key to them being successful. How old is Snowball now? But he still super effective! Young players take notes.

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Reality  
Two years ago

the league is getting weaker so if Ringwood's imports are solid they'll go close again as the locals they have are experienced and know the league well.

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anonymous  
Two years ago

I agree that the league is definitely getting a lot weaker! Not enough fringe NBL players coming back to play in the state leagues anymore besides SEABL. Wouldn't surprise me if Keilor go close to the title next year.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Keilor will finish middle of the road at best. They will not compete with the top sides. Not enough local talent to do anything in state champ.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Word is that Eric Gaff will play Stingrays next season so Corio Bay will get a quality big to fill the 5 spot who is as good if not better than anyone else in BigV next year.

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Reality  
Two years ago

Gaff will help limit the pain on defence but he does score enough they'll need some scoring punch otherwise they are still gonna get smacked!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Casey will look good next year. Will compete at the top of state champ men and also Div 1 women

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X  
Two years ago

Packy youth league looking scary good! Looked well coached and demolished Keysy last night 98-70

Keysy had some of there D1 men players play

I'm not from either club just went down for a look and was impressed

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Any NBL players expected to land in Big V? If so who? For what team?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Are Thoseby and Hodgson returning to the Raiders?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I don't understand how thoseby was even able to get a nbl contract. A "shooter" that can’t shoot. He can’t defend and looks horrible when he dribbles.

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Reality  
Two years ago

Agree with Anon but Gaze liked him after the tour of China where he paid his own way to go on that tour as an extra body.

Its speaks volumes for Gaze & Co when you look at the roster who they've picked up to fill out the bench hence when injuries came they showed no where near go enough to even hold there own.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

So they give out sympathy contracts in the nbl?

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Reality  
Two years ago

These are off the top of my head

Kings: Adam Thoseby - Amritpal Singh
United: Tohi Smith Milner
36ers: Adam Doyle - (Tey perhaps)
Cairns: Ash Constable
Hawks: Cody Ellis - Indiana Faithful
NZ: James Hunter

It was Melb Tiger culture back in the day to fill the end of the bench with "mates" or "boys" of the main players as training bait rather than a competitive bench to challenge the rotation players for minutes. The issue is when you ve injuries you get stuck playing these guys who simply aren;t up to it and will never develop into NBL level players.




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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Thoseby paid his own way on the China trip ? Lmao. If true no wonder Kings are in deep shit.

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anonymous  
Two years ago

^^^^^^^^Exactly^^^^^^^^

I say it all the time, their are plenty guys out there that would be better than the guys they are giving opportunities too. While the NBL has made leaps in bounds in being noticed on a international level some teams bench guys are not up to scratch at all!!! The second unit is almost just as important as the first unit....

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Knox would be fools to bring back thoseby who finished big v 2017 averaging 5 ppg in last games of season. And hodegson who didn't play the entire last month.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Does anybody have any idea how both Keilor teams are shaping up after their promotion to State Championship?

I'd imagine the women would add an import. On the men’s side they seem to have a good group of core players

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Keilor have added Ivan Harris from Melton. One wonders how that lineup will go.

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Melbourne Boy  
Two years ago

Keilor will have 2 imports plus 2 naturalized imports in their starting 5

*Import tba
Chuck Hayes
Ivan Harris
Jordan Coleman
Liam Norton

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anonymous  
Two years ago

Ivan Harris is not naturalized so will be an Import.

They have Chuck Long from last year, Liam Norton (thats news), Jordan Coleman? and all the regular locals from last year including Jason Todorov as well from Melton I believe.

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Melbourne Boy  
Two years ago

Harris is about to become Aussie

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Not many bench minutes for the Keilor role players... Hopefully Jordan Coleman can crack it for a starting gig in the first half of the season this year....

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

That group mentioned above won't compete at top end of state champ. Chuck shot barley 30% last year. Ivan is streaky scorer at best. They both got a year older and slower

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Who were the best champ & div 1 imports last year? Are any returning?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Ringwood have brought back Jacob Gibson and signed newcomer Scottie Stone.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Chris Kaba returning for Knox.

Dillion Stith and Dondray Walker returning for McKinnon.

Brandon Polk and Raheem Lemons returning for Casey.

Apparently stated above Ringwood have Jacob Gibson returning

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anonymous  
Two years ago

SCM is not much different than Div1...Those days of it being a step above is not the case anymore...Keilor will be fine. Chuck Long, Ivan Harris and Jordan Coleman with a few others will be able to compete and get wins against those teams in SCM....Who were some of SCM best players last year compared to D1M.
SCM
Chris Kaba(import), Dillon Stith(import), Brandon Polk(import), Matthew Hodgson, Jeremy Smith(import), Lee Jeka, Matthew Snowball, Ben Waldren, Chris Arkell, Desmond Simmons(import), Michael McCahey(import), Cam Baker(import), Ben Louis, Brad Kelleher, Mike Rose(import), Alex Bogart King, Justin Aver etc......

D1M
Corey Standerfer(import), Justin Patton(import), Xavier Blount(import), Damon Bozeman(import), Deondre McWhorter(import), Liam Norton, Alex Gynes, Calvin Inge, Javari Williams(import), Nick Masunda, Kourtlin Jackson(import), Tim Gainey, Brenden Trewella etc.....

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anonymous  
Two years ago

Dylan Travis has signed to play in the BigV. Not sure what team but here are his highlights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qil4sXTmJTo

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Anon 308 so you think those D1 guys could compete in Champ? Have any champ teams picked up some of the better D1 imports?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Ben Louis? This the same guy that averaged 6 turnovers per guy last year?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Dylan Travis has signed for western port.

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Reality  
Two years ago

Big V isn;t what it used to be particularly SCM.

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Southern Joe  
Two years ago

Dante Exum's brother playing for Whittlesea.

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anonymous  
Two years ago

I agree ^^^

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Big v isn't as good as it once was. Because players that average 6 turnovers are being classed as good players in the league

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Could any of those imports from SCM or D1 play SEABL?

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Reality  
Two years ago

The way Dante is going he'll be back there in a few years so good be a good combo!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Seabl over hyped. Seabl teams lose to SCM all the time in preseason games.

A lot of those imports played Seabl previously.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

That's because the SEABL teams don't care about betting Big V teams in the pre-season. It's like big brother beating up on little brother.

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anonymous  
Two years ago

^^^^^^Excuses...They just don't want to be seen losing to BigV teams because they will lose credibility.....There are heaps of players from the BigV Level that have went on to play NBL...

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anonymous  
Two years ago

Anon 312

Absolutely, and like someone already mentioned most of those guys have played SEABL AND SCM and averaged good numbers in those leagues.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Huge excuse!

Frankston and Melbourne wouldn't beat the top 5 teams of state champ from last season.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

If you back and see how teams have gone when stepping up, most have been fine. They add a few pieces etc and do well with their core.
McKinnon made a gf within two years of going up with core pieces from their d1 team. Made finals in first season.

It's mainly about signin good imports and the club being committed long term. Whittlesea won d1 a few years ago to get promoted but one year after the coach leaves and they have been relegated.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Casey Made finals their first season in State Champ last season...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Yes and sooo many of those Big V players have had NBL careers similar to those of Redhage and Kelly. The simple fact that players like Luke Egan (lovely bloke but he is in his 40's) can put up 40 points in a SCM game and ave close to 18ppg is an indication of the level of Big V.

Heck Sobey went back to Warnambool (Div 1) in 2016 when he hardly played for the 36ers and nearly averaged 40 ppg. Big V has and always will be trash.

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anonymous  
Two years ago

^^^ coming from an anonymous post....the last few posts have been facts so no need to get butthurt...The simple thing is SEABL is not as elite as people think but neither is BigV...Talent across the board is down but Individual talent is there...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Good to see a stud like Thoseby who averaged a healthy 18 ppg in Big V SCM tearing it up in the NBL at 1.3 ppg.

I'm not the butthurt anonymous poster throwing insults lol

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Really the discussion is that SEABL has greater depth in its league than any other 2nd tier competition in country.

The top 3 or 4 teams in QBL could easily compete and make finals in SEABL without question, then their quality drops away quickly the more you go down the ladder.

The rest of the other state league competitions are bordering on rubbish. Big V, Waratah and the SA premier league are not good leagues top to bottom. Premier league improved in 2017 after they removed some import restrictions.

Every league has some individual talent but anyone who says Big V is even close to SEABL across the board, top to bottom is seriously deluded.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

The best teams from the WA SBL would compete in QBL/SEABL also. But like the BigV the depth drops away FAST after the top 2 or 3 teams.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Who will be the best teams this season in Big V SCM? Big V D1M? Big V SCW? Big V D1W?

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Reality  
Two years ago

Those top WA SBL teams could compete particular with the a few Wildcats players and imports in the mix. but it drops away as well after the top 2/3 teams.

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Bear  
Two years ago

It would be great to see the top two or so QBL, WA and other Sate league teams in SEABL, that is how it should be.

As for the BigV, I think it is probably the top State league in Australia, probably has the biggest depth of all leagues.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Bear you might see something similar before you know.

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Reality  
Two years ago

Big V used to be legit but last 5 years it really fallen away.

Still better than CABL/Waratah thou

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I think Premier League in SA would be close to Big V champ & ahead of Div 1 Big V

Have there been imports or others who have played in both leagues recently? How was Starling in Big V?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

No way is SA Premier League stronger than Big V Div 1.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Woodville's mvp from 2 seasons ago went to Kilsyth in SEABL and got sacked pretty quick last yeah

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Starling was ok when played for Warrnambool D1M. One of their best players but a lot of players and imports in D1M were better.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Many of the imports shooting percentages from SA Premier League wouldn't be tolerated at Big V level, some of them are horrendous, particularly from the foul line.

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HO  
Two years ago

So Bear, why "should it be" that the top couple of teams from those other states compete in SEABL?

The SEABL is an over-funded cash drain, that produces very little. That is not to say it is a bad competition, it is not, but I as I have said many times here before, it actually doesn't achieve much, relative to the cost of competing and staging.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

So you're saying the better Big V D1 imports would compete in Premier League/SBL type leagues?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Easily.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Guys like Corey Standerfer, Justin Patton, Xavier Blount, Damon Bozeman, Deondre McWhorter - how good are they? Could any play NBL? Be effective SEABL imports? Or be ok in other state leagues QBL/SBL/ PL?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Talks of Jorden page and possibly an NBL player going to Casey.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Corio Bay announce team list:

"2018 State Championship Men's team, lead by Coach Paul Hutchison, looks to be another great year for our Stingrays Family.

We are excited to announce our team, including both returning and new players;
Michael Rebula, Joel McFall, Griffin Errey, Chris Eichler, Cohen Blythe, Steven Wiasak, Jackson Bentley and Phil Renteria

The Squad Members include;
Dane Bowe, Ethan McIntyre, Mitchell Stoop, Michael Todorovic, Chris Hill

Our Stingrays Family continues to grow and we look forward to the 'Singlet Presentation' in the new year."

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Bear  
Two years ago

HO, how are you mate, long time...........?

We can debate the financial benefits or lack there of for any sports and probably come up with an interesting pro-com list I reckon. Maybe you are looking at it the wrong way or too subjectively, but that's just my opinion, you have your own views which is fine of course.

I see SEABL as having the potential to be our winter season second tier-NBL competition, it just needs more support. I also see that if we could have a winter and summer national competition it could improve the promotion of the game and keep players in it at a higher level, create more pathways and generate more passion for the sport in general.

Those are just some of my reasons, off the top of my head that is.

It would be a good debate for us to have, discussing the value of the SEABL or a similar league, maybe a new thread even, :)...?

By the way mate, have a great Xmas and safe NY!!

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Bear  
Two years ago

BTW I meant pro-con list.........sorry!

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Bear  
Two years ago

Just to clear something up, I am not saying SEABL isn't already our second tier national competition, I am suggesting it can improve and expand by taking on the best one or two teams from each State league as a good start...

Begin the debate my friend.......

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Casey wanted Adam Doyle, but now injured.
Jordan Page a definite option.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Casey sticking to their locals quota well

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Looks like Corio Bay by my calculations still has 4 spots to announce. Congrats to Rays on Bentley, Waisak great get from Supercats and Renteria from Hume. So who are imports anyone heard anything.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Why is it that when we compare these leagues, it's always done through the prism of the Men's league?

SEABL Women is easily the second best women's league in Australia. Easily. No question.

With regard to the Men's SEABL - there is a discussion to be had but again IMO, SEABL is stronger across the board. Put the two together and it's not even close.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Hear Casey coach recruiting DKD now.

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Bear  
Two years ago

Believe Corio Bay were chasing Gaff, so wait for that call to be made official...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Thanks Bear, is Gaff considered an import as I understood he was applying to be Aust Citizen.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Gaff classed as import. That's the reason Geelong seabl releases him. Didn’t want him to take up their second import spot. Wanted him as citizen but his citizenship fell through.

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HO  
Two years ago

Bear, the SEABL probably already is our second tier competition to the NBL. But there are still lots of questions to be asked about it.

It doesn't serve as a development league, if only that in a practical sense it doesn't operate at the same time as the NBL. Lots of people tout it as a devel league, but it just doesn't achieve much in that regard. NBL teams are recruiting Australians out of College now generally, not out of SEABL, so it isn't fit for purpose - as someone pointed out earlier this may be different for the women.

If we accept that as a basis, why do we need a costly interstate league as our second tier? Why not kill the ridiculous travel, and simply stage it as a 10 or 12 team Vic based league, where no air travel is required? That would also allow better scheduling, more relevant rivalries etc. Mid week games could be staged where venues allow (school holidays maybe).

Let Mt Gambier play in SA Premier and make that comp better. Force Tassie to go their own way. Force Canberra into Waratah, ask AW to change their name to WA and let them stay in Vic.

Why is BA even running it? It is at odds with BA's core membership as I have said here a few times as well.

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Bear  
Two years ago

HO, I will agree wholeheartedly that SEABL in its current situation is not serving its potential and purpose, that's obvious.

I guess we agree that it either expands and is developed into what it's potential should be and to that end I would support my theory, however if it is left statistical quo then yes, it could be scrapped in order to improve each State league.

The issue I would have then is that the result would likely be a very, very strong Victorian State league, compared to some less than average leagues in comparison.

It has to be decided, but who would decide it...?

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Hmmmm  
Two years ago

I don't believe SEABL has ever wanted to be a developmental league. So why do people try to pin it as one? There are not enough teams nor talent in the WNBL or NBL to support a D League anyway.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I don't think people are saying SEABL would be a D league, but the fact that guys like Adnam, Moller, Sobey and alike are being recognised at that level suggests that maybe it can serve as a stepping stone for some. I think people are just saying SEABL could be a winter league at National level if it expanded but it needs to go one way or the other. I think if it stays as it is the cost of travel will always be a problem. Makes it an expensive league for only a few teams not in Vic.

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Melbourne Boy  
Two years ago

Sobey played QBL and Big V

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

And Ballarat Miners

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

SEABL at Ballarat

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anon  
Two years ago

SEABL plays a very important part in Australian basketball. It is clearly a notch up from State Leagues. Higher quality imports and generally better Australians. Gives a pathway to NBL and an opportunity for young or fringe NBL players to improve their games in off season. Australian Basketball is very strong and with only 7 Australian NBL teams there is a need for a higher level second tier comp. (every other serious basketball country has one or more ) Yes NBL does recruit from college but very few college players go directly to NBL. A number of very good Australians also don't go to college. Very few NBL players returning to Big V most to SEABL. The players know its a higher level comp. BTW if the Melbourne Clubs didn't want to invest in it they don't have to. They do because its a great competition. Yes it could be better.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Seabl also gives opportunity for imports like Evans junior at Cairns. It is an excellent comp for the winter months when no Nbl and catures for more players. Hopefully one or two seabl teams can soon get Nbl teams as well, Hobart and possibly Geelong.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Has page from dandenong signed with Casey?

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Southern Joe  
Two years ago

Question...

if you were a player turning 17 next year ... what would be a better step..... 18/1 s with a possible VC club or a DP with a YL2 side?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

southern Joe ... 18/1 s with a possible VC club any day

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Southern Joe would you not do both like most other DP !!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

You can be at two different clubs.
Play VC at one and then Big V at another.

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Southern Joe  
Two years ago

Thanks for the replies thus far ... the plan was to do both ... but the junior option didn't pan out. Long story short.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

More details Joe

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Southern Joe  
Two years ago

Not wanting to get into details .. but maybe I should have worded what I wanted an opinion on better.

What should be harder to make .....an 18/1s team with a good chance of making VC or a YL2?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Strange question on this thread. VJBL going into phase 2 of grading so your son has not made an U18 side for this season. Other option may be new club and VJBL U21 as this has not started. DP players train only and then sit on the bench so your son may be better playing Friday nights, no rush to make YL.

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anonymous  
Last year

Whats the latest around the league? BigV are slow with news? 2018 Draw etc...

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anonymous  
Last year

Western Port D1M & D1W have new imports

Dylan Travis & Attirah Munir

http://www.bigv.com.au/index.php?id=755&tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=2018&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=01&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=5393&cHash=7ade914d66d593c9687b4ce1cc2ef083

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anonymous  
Last year

Jorden Page & Matt Donlan to Casey Cavaliers SCM

http://www.bigv.com.au/index.php?id=755&tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=2018&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=01&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=5392&cHash=f03dacf2413c3608eb3cbaf21f76e84b

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Anonymous  
Last year

Predictions on teams that make playoffs in each division?

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thatguyontheend  
Last year

Any teams in pre-season games already or outstanding results from these. Can't read too much into them I guess but always keen to hear who is running hot in pre-season.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Latrobe City lost to pakenham 90-88 in preseason match few weeks ago.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Latrobe minus their imports ?
Who did they have running around ?

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anonymous  
Last year

Keilor SCM beat Waverly SCM the other weekend as well. Not sure what players were missing.

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Anonymous  
Last year

LAtrobe had both imports in the loss.

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Anonymous  
Last year

^^^anon

Hawthorn SCM beat Keilor SCM.

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anonymous  
Last year

Travis Julien

http://www.bigv.com.au/index.php?id=755&tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=2018&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=02&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=5403&cHash=fb267a7e6237def644da1a745531d193

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anonymous  
Last year

New Import D1W - Alyssa Bennett (Werribee)

http://www.bigv.com.au/index.php?id=755&tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=2018&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=02&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=5404&cHash=8db27b484e23996eb37a55ffdf41dfb4

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anonymous  
Last year

What's happening in BigV Land....

State Champ Men & Women have been really quiet as of yet....

Is the standard down on talent???

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VB  
Last year

In the women's competition the standard is way up. A few teams running around that could push for a mid to top ladder position in SEABL, particularly Waverley.

Sunbury won it all last year, have added an ex-Opal in Elyse Penaluna and another import, and kept the core of their group together, and they are sitting with three losses way down the ladder. Speaks to the strength of the comp.

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anonymous  
Last year

^^^ Appreciate the update ^^^

Definitely sounds like the Women's Comp needs more attention...

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Reality  
Last year

Womens is pretty strong this year for sure with teams recruiting well and very good on paper.

Mens on the other hand has fallen away again, watched a couple of games now and its down on last year let alone a few years back.

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Anonymous  
Last year

SCM is still a very good comp!

Obviously SEABL adding Melbourne and DV the last few years has diluted the available talent a little. But all in all still very good.

Big V need to be careful they dont lose any more teams to SEABL as that will impact the standard.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Big V is yawn! Terrible Terrible league, poorly run talentless boring shit.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Any thoughts or ideas on who will make up the all star 5 in each division?

Any clear MVP picks?

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