Jack Toft
Earlier this year

Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Just when you thought there weren't any more good games left in the season, along comes this little pearler.

Season over for the Hawks, "no finals for you" said the finals nazi, "NEXT"
The pressure is on the Sixers though. More pressure than a guy with three girlfriends on Valentines Day. They need this win more than the Hawks. A win today secures 2nd IMO. The Sixers are up a game on the Cats, but need %. A win to the Breakers today sees them equal on wins, but with % the Sixers way.

Only a win by the Sixers locks in that 2nd spot.

Clarke and Conger have been solid performers all year, but the Sixers have just a little more firepower and should get this one.

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

Simple for Adelaide win and almost certainly be assured of second place.
Hawks don't have anything to play for but I wouldn't write them off.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Only a win by the Sixers locks in that 2nd spot.


Perth are only one loss behind us so we need to win this game and next week's game to lock in top spot.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

second spot I meant.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Yeah, it's a big game for Adelaide in the context of ladder position. They should win handily, but we'll see -
Hawks are the most unpredictable team in the league.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Rontei Clarke not playing due to heel injury

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Damn! Rotnei played terribly last time.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Kind of getting sick of Deng talking trash week in week out, every player in the league could snap him in half like a pretzel stick

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If Illawarra win this dead rubber it will be a victory of mixed emotions, like kissing your sister...which is exactly how Adelaide fans will celebrate if they win.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Coenraad playing well against us, as usual.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

They know my sister?

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Uncle Phil  
Earlier this year

I feel like Coenraad always kills the 36ers, he just seems to love playing against us

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twenty four  
Earlier this year

And for those without a sister to kiss, I've been told that anon's mum is very much available.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" More pressure than a guy with three girlfriends on Valentines Day."

Breakfast. Lunch. Dinner. Easy! That's what I'm doing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Your annual reminder that Childress' propensity to physically attack his opponents is "out of character" and he's a "really good guy."

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Illawarra look better without Clark

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Jack Toft  
Earlier this year

Sixers look better without Teys

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Nice one anon, but mine all know each other. We're having a fun dinner with everyone and all their parents. Should be a cracking night.

Illawarra's D is woeful

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Udog  
Earlier this year

They should do a swap

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Hodgeson! Where was that all year?

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Great to see some fire from Hodgson defensively.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Is that Ken Cole on the Adelaide bench?

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Doug  
Earlier this year

No Ramone Moore in the first half. Is there an injury?

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Uncle Phil  
Earlier this year

Is Moore injured?

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UseTaHoop  
Earlier this year

" More pressure than a guy with three girlfriends on Valentines Day."

So in this analogy, rival teams in the top 4 are ex girlfriends.

Any more than 2 gets difficult.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

If Creek leaves I'd love to see us go after Coenraad. He's a great shooter, has size and competent defensively plus the Hawks only give him 1 year deals. Offer him a 2/3 year deal to come over.

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Hendo8888  
Earlier this year

What's wrong with Ramone Moore?

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Disciplinary action

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Shane Heals head. Better for radio.

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Hendo8888  
Earlier this year

I thought only Teys was suspended? Or is this for something else?

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Rat10  
Earlier this year

Hodgson definitely has the ability to be the best shot blocker in the league. He's more athletic than most 6'11 guys in the NBL... he just has to stay on the court and not pick up silly fouls. You can live with the odd one where he gets called trying to block shots. I noticed against Perth too he was the only defender who Brandt struggled to get his shot off against.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Flop rule sucks

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Drmic's face just fouled Coenraad's elbow.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Do the refs need a quota of unsportsmanlike fouls per game?

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Btown  
Earlier this year

Another bad USF sixers way. Colour me shocked

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Adelaide starts some shit again. No doubt Joey will be complaining about Norton in the media during the week.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The refs are just laughable. I mean cmon. It's disgusting.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

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Hendo8888  
Earlier this year

Refs have lost the plot

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john  
Earlier this year

absolute amateur hour from the refs again

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sobey ejected on second technical for calling for a flop?? What a joke

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Refs are terrible but good to see Sobey ejected.

#kissingyoursister

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Flops, unsportsmanlike fouls. Spoiling the product.

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Uncle Phil  
Earlier this year

How was that usf on norton unfair, he blantantly shoved Drimic after the play was over - that has been called an usf all year. Two flops by the Hawks in the half yet the non flop by Sobey gets a T and then he gets a T for asking for the same to be applied to the other team. The refs need to have a hard look at themselves in the mirror.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Bullshit call turned into cheeseburgers. How good

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Burgers don't lie

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Rat10  
Earlier this year

Just ridiculous! "Are you kidding me??" as Shane Heal just said.

Sobey gets a very questionable tech for not flopping and then asks for exactly the same call down the other end and gets thrown out of the game.

The flopping rule is ridiculous - way too harsh a penalty for something way too subjective.

Scott Becker taking things too personally. We want to see the best players on the court - not being thrown out of the stadium because you can't take a player questioning your call in a respectful manner?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

can't take the NBL seriously until they employ refs that understand the game of basketball. It's the only thing fans are left talking about any game

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Oh you Norton shoved mean Drmic after he landed on top of him? A bit of perspective is needed for that call.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

I guess Bekker decided Illawarra need a make up woeful call after the USF on Norton.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Who knows, ref probably thought Sobey was calling him a wanker

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Refs in NZ any good? Can we fly some over?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You had every chance Hawks but you blew it

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Uncle Phil  
Earlier this year

Becker deserves a suspension after that, possibly the worst combination of T's resulting in an ejection I’ve ever seen, hopefully he watches the tape and realises how crap he was at his job today and apologised to Sobey.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Refs pissed the 36ers off enough to get them going from the look of it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The tech on Sobey was rubbish but Sobey needs to learn the rules. If the referee's call a foul they cannot also call a flop. Its either one or the other, you can't call a foul and a flop.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Clubs are paying a lot if money for players to play and fans are paying to watch them. Not the refs. Don't chuck players out for crap like that.

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Uncle Phil  
Earlier this year

DJ asking why on earth he isn't in the boomers team?!

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Just zero ball pressure from Illawarra. Adelaide scoring at such a high rate in the half-court is not acceptable

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Btown  
Earlier this year

We dont know what was said, no point in arguing the tech.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

One of the worst last quarters seen in a while by Hawks

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Percentage booster in the end.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Took care of business.

Now just need to beat the Bullets or if we lose we need Perth to lose 1 of their last 2 to lock up second spot.

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Hendo8888  
Earlier this year

"The tech on Sobey was rubbish but Sobey needs to learn the rules. If the referee's call a foul they cannot also call a flop. Its either one or the other, you can't call a foul and a flop."

Why not? They called a defensive foul on him. If it's a charge, then yeah, sure, can't be a flop, but why can't it be a flop when they call a blocking foul when he clearly flopped?

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Udog  
Earlier this year

I know how to fix it. Change the rules back.

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Rat10  
Earlier this year

The NBL needs to seriously take a look at the flopping rules in the off-season. They're patently ridiculous. The penalty just doesn't fit the crime especially when the crime is so hard to judge - it's a lottery what the refs will call whenever a player falls down.

When Sobey fell down, it certainly appeared that the contact knocked him off balance. It didn't look like Sobey accentuated the contact and was deliberately trying to deceive the ref which is why the penalty is so harsh for flopping. Was it a charge? Probably not. I think a no call was correct but the refs have to realise that it is possible for a player to hit the floor without them flopping and trying to deceive the ref. Maybe the contact was hard enough to knock them over? Maybe they slipped? Maybe they just lost their balance. So many possibilities.

To then be T'd up for being knocked down by legitimate contact is way too harsh given that the next T leads to ejection. Sobey had every right to question why Cody Ellis wasn't given a T for falling down given he was called for the same thing up the other end. If the refs hadn't called him for a ridiculous flop then he wouldn't be asking for the same thing. I would be open to the rules being changed for T's given for flopping not to be counted as T's leading to ejections - just 1 free throw and the ball back - that would be enough of a deterrent. T's leading to ejections should be given for play way outside the rules. As Heal said if you are going to throw out a player they need to have something "really bad" - and what Sobey did doesn't fit that category.

And the sad thing is that we are now discussing this rather than other talking points in the game that don't involve the refereeing. Points like DJ's great game, what the Hawks need to do next season to get better etc etc

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

As stated above Rat10, Ellis got called for a blocking foul. Once a foul is called you cannot apply a flop warning.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No Hendo, a flop that causes illegal contact (as in the Ellis case) is to be called as a foul. Once a foul occurs you cannot then add/apply a flop warning. It's a FIBA directive.

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Joe  
Earlier this year

Time for Bevo to move on.

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John  
Earlier this year

Hawks have a better team then last year. Word is a lot of in-house fighting. What's up with Bevo? need better coach.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Bevo is in the Hungry Jacks drive through right now. He could put some feelers out.

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Melbourne Boy  
Earlier this year

It's not Bevo... when you have a guy getting 30-40% of the salary cap not good enough to even really be in the rotation anymore you can't win

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Uncle Phil  
Earlier this year

Anon - just interested but does it say anything in the rule book about not being able to call a flop if there is a foul called on the player? Or is it a verbal directive from fiba to the refs? Just haven't heard of it before and it seems like a lot of others haven’t also.

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Rat10  
Earlier this year

Even if Sobey did know the rules he is within his right to ask why it wasn't called a flop instead of a block. What if one ref calls a block but the other has a flop warning - this could easily happen given how hard it is to actually determine if someone has flopped or not.

My point remains. You can certainly see why Sobey would ask for a flop to be called when he got called for a dubious flop warning down the other end.

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Camel 31  
Earlier this year

The successive smiles on those kids being taken for a day out by Josh Childress ... getting sneakers that they would never be able to have..... pretty good to see....
His name will appear on hoolahoops where people like to write about those they hate....

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"My point remains. You can certainly see why Sobey would ask for a flop to be called when he got called for a dubious flop warning down the other end. "

Sobey is a flop. How many does he get away with every single game? More than entire teams.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If Sobey knew the rules he would understand why he cant ask that question. But as usual he was just trying to be a smartass and unfortunately got penalised (incorrectly in my opinion) for it. If he doesnt carry on Beker has no opportunity to give him a T. Adelaide as a team push the refs consistently, at some stage it is eventually going to hurt them. Luckily in the end it didnt hurt them today.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Bottom line. Dump the terrible rules that aren't working.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Useless Hawks.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bevo totally lost the playing group, internally a mess, he's got to go

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What can Bevo do when AJ is cooked. Sack AJ.

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Cats 4 life  
Earlier this year

And Adelaide fan's we're bagging Redhage

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Jack Toft  
Earlier this year

FMD!

Do any of youse Cats fans actually speak Engrish or do you trounce around you cave dragging your knuckles endlessly beating your chest and making grunting noises as you discover fire and the wheel? Do you go to the local water hole with your club to find a partner?

"And Adelaide fan's we're bagging Redhage"

Fan's = possessive title
We're = we are
were = once was

Are you trying to say "And Adelaide fans were bagging Redhage (for flopping)"?

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Glen  
Earlier this year

Agreed, the flop is poorly administered, too contentious. Get rid of it sure. How about using the rules that have been around for ever, i.e. deliberately fouling a player on the shot after a foul already called on the play. 2:01 left in the first half. Not hard to get correct!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

SIxer fans didn't kick up a stink when damian Martin was teched for a flop when tripping on his own feet last week.

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Tornado  
Earlier this year

I think the whole Sobey flop thing is a bit over hyped.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Another swing and a miss for Jack. Stop trying to be funny.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

I'm with Glen. Makes sense to get rid of crap rules that make refs look even worse.

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FM  
Earlier this year

#387 that's because he flopped.

Gleeson: What happened
Martin: He stood on my foot.
Gleeson He stood on his foot He stood on his foot.
Ref: I didn't see that
Gleeson I did
Cough cough BS.

Video. flop.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

It did look like a Martin flop

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

Imagine if that Sobey ejection had come in a close, finals game? It would get spoken of for years.

His flop should've been a no call, and then him asking for a flop (with attitude) probably a warning.

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gongski  
Earlier this year

Hawks owner had a 3 year plan.......3 years is now up. Seems bored with his toy.... business has been taken over and kicked of the board. Why sign Bevo to a long term deal in this league. 4 years. You make the GF and next season players underperform but somehow its the coaches fault. What about front office when are they accountable, GM more concerned about being courted by pretty young things in short skirts, that was his major off season signing. Get rid off people loyal to the organisation and the team and bring back someone who last time they were involved threatened to sue the club. Thats the level of his ability. NOT GM material, wouldnt be surprised if owner walks...but hey just an opinion

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Another swing and a miss for Jack. Stop trying to be funny."

Not a Sixer or Wildcat fan, but I laughed.

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