Jack Toft
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Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Just when you thought there weren't any more good games left in the season, along comes this little pearler.

Season over for the Hawks, "no finals for you" said the finals nazi, "NEXT"
The pressure is on the Sixers though. More pressure than a guy with three girlfriends on Valentines Day. They need this win more than the Hawks. A win today secures 2nd IMO. The Sixers are up a game on the Cats, but need %. A win to the Breakers today sees them equal on wins, but with % the Sixers way.

Only a win by the Sixers locks in that 2nd spot.

Clarke and Conger have been solid performers all year, but the Sixers have just a little more firepower and should get this one.

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Hogwash
Last week
14:14 11 Feb 18

Reply #672228

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Simple for Adelaide win and almost certainly be assured of second place.
Hawks don't have anything to play for but I wouldn't write them off.


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Zodiac
Last week
14:16 11 Feb 18

Reply #672229

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Only a win by the Sixers locks in that 2nd spot.


Perth are only one loss behind us so we need to win this game and next week's game to lock in top spot.


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Zodiac
Last week
14:17 11 Feb 18

Reply #672230

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

second spot I meant.


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AngusH
Last week
14:18 11 Feb 18

Reply #672231

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Yeah, it's a big game for Adelaide in the context of ladder position. They should win handily, but we'll see -
Hawks are the most unpredictable team in the league.


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Anonymous
Last week
14:30 11 Feb 18

Reply #672234

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Rontei Clarke not playing due to heel injury


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Udog
Last week
14:36 11 Feb 18

Reply #672235

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Damn! Rotnei played terribly last time.


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Anonymous
Last week
14:54 11 Feb 18

Reply #672237

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Kind of getting sick of Deng talking trash week in week out, every player in the league could snap him in half like a pretzel stick


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Anonymous
Last week
14:56 11 Feb 18

Reply #672238

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

If Illawarra win this dead rubber it will be a victory of mixed emotions, like kissing your sister...which is exactly how Adelaide fans will celebrate if they win.


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Zodiac
Last week
14:58 11 Feb 18

Reply #672239

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Coenraad playing well against us, as usual.


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Udog
Last week
14:58 11 Feb 18

Reply #672240

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

They know my sister?


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Uncle Phil
Last week
14:59 11 Feb 18

Reply #672241

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

I feel like Coenraad always kills the 36ers, he just seems to love playing against us


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twenty four
Last week
15:09 11 Feb 18

Reply #672244

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

And for those without a sister to kiss, I've been told that anon's mum is very much available.


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Anonymous
Last week
15:09 11 Feb 18

Reply #672245

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

" More pressure than a guy with three girlfriends on Valentines Day."

Breakfast. Lunch. Dinner. Easy! That's what I'm doing.


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Anonymous
Last week
15:12 11 Feb 18

Reply #672246

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Your annual reminder that Childress' propensity to physically attack his opponents is "out of character" and he's a "really good guy."


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Udog
Last week
15:15 11 Feb 18

Reply #672247

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Illawarra look better without Clark


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Jack Toft
Last week
15:19 11 Feb 18

Reply #672249

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Sixers look better without Teys


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Manu Fieldel
Last week
15:20 11 Feb 18

Reply #672250

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Nice one anon, but mine all know each other. We're having a fun dinner with everyone and all their parents. Should be a cracking night.

Illawarra's D is woeful


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Udog
Last week
15:21 11 Feb 18

Reply #672251

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

They should do a swap


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Udog
Last week
15:23 11 Feb 18

Reply #672252

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Hodgeson! Where was that all year?


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Zodiac
Last week
15:25 11 Feb 18

Reply #672254

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Great to see some fire from Hodgson defensively.


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Anonymous
Last week
15:26 11 Feb 18

Reply #672255

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Is that Ken Cole on the Adelaide bench?


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Doug
Last week
15:26 11 Feb 18

Reply #672256

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

No Ramone Moore in the first half. Is there an injury?


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Uncle Phil
Last week
15:27 11 Feb 18

Reply #672257

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Is Moore injured?


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UseTaHoop
Last week
15:27 11 Feb 18

Reply #672258

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

" More pressure than a guy with three girlfriends on Valentines Day."

So in this analogy, rival teams in the top 4 are ex girlfriends.

Any more than 2 gets difficult.


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Zodiac
Last week
15:29 11 Feb 18

Reply #672260

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

If Creek leaves I'd love to see us go after Coenraad. He's a great shooter, has size and competent defensively plus the Hawks only give him 1 year deals. Offer him a 2/3 year deal to come over.


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Hendo8888
Last week
15:30 11 Feb 18

Reply #672261

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

What's wrong with Ramone Moore?


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Manu Fieldel
Last week
15:31 11 Feb 18

Reply #672262

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Disciplinary action


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Udog
Last week
15:31 11 Feb 18

Reply #672263

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Shane Heals head. Better for radio.


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Hendo8888
Last week
15:33 11 Feb 18

Reply #672264

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

I thought only Teys was suspended? Or is this for something else?


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Rat10
Last week
15:35 11 Feb 18

Reply #672265

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Hodgson definitely has the ability to be the best shot blocker in the league. He's more athletic than most 6'11 guys in the NBL... he just has to stay on the court and not pick up silly fouls. You can live with the odd one where he gets called trying to block shots. I noticed against Perth too he was the only defender who Brandt struggled to get his shot off against.


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Udog
Last week
15:46 11 Feb 18

Reply #672267

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Flop rule sucks


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Udog
Last week
15:52 11 Feb 18

Reply #672268

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Drmic's face just fouled Coenraad's elbow.


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Udog
Last week
15:55 11 Feb 18

Reply #672271

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Do the refs need a quota of unsportsmanlike fouls per game?


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Btown
Last week
15:55 11 Feb 18

Reply #672272

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Another bad USF sixers way. Colour me shocked


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Anonymous
Last week
15:57 11 Feb 18

Reply #672273

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Adelaide starts some shit again. No doubt Joey will be complaining about Norton in the media during the week.


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Anonymous
Last week
15:59 11 Feb 18

Reply #672274

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

The refs are just laughable. I mean cmon. It's disgusting.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME.


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Hendo8888
Last week
16:00 11 Feb 18

Reply #672276

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Refs have lost the plot


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john
Last week
16:00 11 Feb 18

Reply #672277

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

absolute amateur hour from the refs again


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Anonymous
Last week
16:00 11 Feb 18

Reply #672278

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Sobey ejected on second technical for calling for a flop?? What a joke


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Anonymous
Last week
16:01 11 Feb 18

Reply #672279

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Refs are terrible but good to see Sobey ejected.

#kissingyoursister


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Udog
Last week
16:01 11 Feb 18

Reply #672280

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Flops, unsportsmanlike fouls. Spoiling the product.


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Uncle Phil
Last week
16:02 11 Feb 18

Reply #672281

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

How was that usf on norton unfair, he blantantly shoved Drimic after the play was over - that has been called an usf all year. Two flops by the Hawks in the half yet the non flop by Sobey gets a T and then he gets a T for asking for the same to be applied to the other team. The refs need to have a hard look at themselves in the mirror.


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Manu Fieldel
Last week
16:02 11 Feb 18

Reply #672282

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Bullshit call turned into cheeseburgers. How good


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Manu Fieldel
Last week
16:02 11 Feb 18

Reply #672283

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Burgers don't lie


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Rat10
Last week
16:02 11 Feb 18

Reply #672284

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Just ridiculous! "Are you kidding me??" as Shane Heal just said.

Sobey gets a very questionable tech for not flopping and then asks for exactly the same call down the other end and gets thrown out of the game.

The flopping rule is ridiculous - way too harsh a penalty for something way too subjective.

Scott Becker taking things too personally. We want to see the best players on the court - not being thrown out of the stadium because you can't take a player questioning your call in a respectful manner?


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Anonymous
Last week
16:04 11 Feb 18

Reply #672285

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

can't take the NBL seriously until they employ refs that understand the game of basketball. It's the only thing fans are left talking about any game


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Anonymous
Last week
16:04 11 Feb 18

Reply #672286

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Oh you Norton shoved mean Drmic after he landed on top of him? A bit of perspective is needed for that call.


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AngusH
Last week
16:04 11 Feb 18

Reply #672287

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

I guess Bekker decided Illawarra need a make up woeful call after the USF on Norton.


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Manu Fieldel
Last week
16:05 11 Feb 18

Reply #672288

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Who knows, ref probably thought Sobey was calling him a wanker


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Udog
Last week
16:05 11 Feb 18

Reply #672289

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Refs in NZ any good? Can we fly some over?


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Anonymous
Last week
16:07 11 Feb 18

Reply #672290

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

You had every chance Hawks but you blew it


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Uncle Phil
Last week
16:09 11 Feb 18

Reply #672292

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Becker deserves a suspension after that, possibly the worst combination of T's resulting in an ejection I’ve ever seen, hopefully he watches the tape and realises how crap he was at his job today and apologised to Sobey.


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Udog
Last week
16:09 11 Feb 18

Reply #672293

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Refs pissed the 36ers off enough to get them going from the look of it.


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Anonymous
Last week
16:11 11 Feb 18

Reply #672294

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

The tech on Sobey was rubbish but Sobey needs to learn the rules. If the referee's call a foul they cannot also call a flop. Its either one or the other, you can't call a foul and a flop.


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Udog
Last week
16:11 11 Feb 18

Reply #672295

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Clubs are paying a lot if money for players to play and fans are paying to watch them. Not the refs. Don't chuck players out for crap like that.


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Uncle Phil
Last week
16:13 11 Feb 18

Reply #672296

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

DJ asking why on earth he isn't in the boomers team?!


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Manu Fieldel
Last week
16:14 11 Feb 18

Reply #672297

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Just zero ball pressure from Illawarra. Adelaide scoring at such a high rate in the half-court is not acceptable


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Btown
Last week
16:16 11 Feb 18

Reply #672298

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

We dont know what was said, no point in arguing the tech.


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Btown
Last week
16:21 11 Feb 18

Reply #672300

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

One of the worst last quarters seen in a while by Hawks


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Udog
Last week
16:21 11 Feb 18

Reply #672301

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Percentage booster in the end.


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Zodiac
Last week
16:23 11 Feb 18

Reply #672302

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Took care of business.

Now just need to beat the Bullets or if we lose we need Perth to lose 1 of their last 2 to lock up second spot.


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Hendo8888
Last week
16:24 11 Feb 18

Reply #672303

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

"The tech on Sobey was rubbish but Sobey needs to learn the rules. If the referee's call a foul they cannot also call a flop. Its either one or the other, you can't call a foul and a flop."

Why not? They called a defensive foul on him. If it's a charge, then yeah, sure, can't be a flop, but why can't it be a flop when they call a blocking foul when he clearly flopped?


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Udog
Last week
16:39 11 Feb 18

Reply #672304

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

I know how to fix it. Change the rules back.


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Rat10
Last week
16:40 11 Feb 18

Reply #672305

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

The NBL needs to seriously take a look at the flopping rules in the off-season. They're patently ridiculous. The penalty just doesn't fit the crime especially when the crime is so hard to judge - it's a lottery what the refs will call whenever a player falls down.

When Sobey fell down, it certainly appeared that the contact knocked him off balance. It didn't look like Sobey accentuated the contact and was deliberately trying to deceive the ref which is why the penalty is so harsh for flopping. Was it a charge? Probably not. I think a no call was correct but the refs have to realise that it is possible for a player to hit the floor without them flopping and trying to deceive the ref. Maybe the contact was hard enough to knock them over? Maybe they slipped? Maybe they just lost their balance. So many possibilities.

To then be T'd up for being knocked down by legitimate contact is way too harsh given that the next T leads to ejection. Sobey had every right to question why Cody Ellis wasn't given a T for falling down given he was called for the same thing up the other end. If the refs hadn't called him for a ridiculous flop then he wouldn't be asking for the same thing. I would be open to the rules being changed for T's given for flopping not to be counted as T's leading to ejections - just 1 free throw and the ball back - that would be enough of a deterrent. T's leading to ejections should be given for play way outside the rules. As Heal said if you are going to throw out a player they need to have something "really bad" - and what Sobey did doesn't fit that category.

And the sad thing is that we are now discussing this rather than other talking points in the game that don't involve the refereeing. Points like DJ's great game, what the Hawks need to do next season to get better etc etc


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Anonymous
Last week
16:41 11 Feb 18

Reply #672306

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

As stated above Rat10, Ellis got called for a blocking foul. Once a foul is called you cannot apply a flop warning.


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Anonymous
Last week
16:43 11 Feb 18

Reply #672307

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

No Hendo, a flop that causes illegal contact (as in the Ellis case) is to be called as a foul. Once a foul occurs you cannot then add/apply a flop warning. It's a FIBA directive.


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Joe
Last week
16:44 11 Feb 18

Reply #672308

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Time for Bevo to move on.


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John
Last week
16:53 11 Feb 18

Reply #672309

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Hawks have a better team then last year. Word is a lot of in-house fighting. What's up with Bevo? need better coach.


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Udog
Last week
16:53 11 Feb 18

Reply #672310

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Bevo is in the Hungry Jacks drive through right now. He could put some feelers out.


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Melbourne Boy
Last week
16:56 11 Feb 18

Reply #672312

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

It's not Bevo... when you have a guy getting 30-40% of the salary cap not good enough to even really be in the rotation anymore you can't win


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Uncle Phil
Last week
17:00 11 Feb 18

Reply #672314

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Anon - just interested but does it say anything in the rule book about not being able to call a flop if there is a foul called on the player? Or is it a verbal directive from fiba to the refs? Just haven't heard of it before and it seems like a lot of others haven’t also.


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Rat10
Last week
17:25 11 Feb 18

Reply #672317

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Even if Sobey did know the rules he is within his right to ask why it wasn't called a flop instead of a block. What if one ref calls a block but the other has a flop warning - this could easily happen given how hard it is to actually determine if someone has flopped or not.

My point remains. You can certainly see why Sobey would ask for a flop to be called when he got called for a dubious flop warning down the other end.


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Camel 31
Last week
17:43 11 Feb 18

Reply #672321

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

The successive smiles on those kids being taken for a day out by Josh Childress ... getting sneakers that they would never be able to have..... pretty good to see....
His name will appear on hoolahoops where people like to write about those they hate....


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Anonymous
Last week
17:59 11 Feb 18

Reply #672323

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

"My point remains. You can certainly see why Sobey would ask for a flop to be called when he got called for a dubious flop warning down the other end. "

Sobey is a flop. How many does he get away with every single game? More than entire teams.


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Anonymous
Last week
18:00 11 Feb 18

Reply #672324

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

If Sobey knew the rules he would understand why he cant ask that question. But as usual he was just trying to be a smartass and unfortunately got penalised (incorrectly in my opinion) for it. If he doesnt carry on Beker has no opportunity to give him a T. Adelaide as a team push the refs consistently, at some stage it is eventually going to hurt them. Luckily in the end it didnt hurt them today.


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Udog
Last week
20:28 11 Feb 18

Reply #672341

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Bottom line. Dump the terrible rules that aren't working.


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Anonymous
Last week
21:02 11 Feb 18

Reply #672350

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Useless Hawks.


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Anonymous
Last week
21:03 11 Feb 18

Reply #672351

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Bevo totally lost the playing group, internally a mess, he's got to go


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Anonymous
Last week
21:15 11 Feb 18

Reply #672360

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

What can Bevo do when AJ is cooked. Sack AJ.


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Cats 4 life
Last week
22:22 11 Feb 18

Reply #672380

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

And Adelaide fan's we're bagging Redhage


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Jack Toft
Last week
23:26 11 Feb 18

Reply #672384

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

FMD!

Do any of youse Cats fans actually speak Engrish or do you trounce around you cave dragging your knuckles endlessly beating your chest and making grunting noises as you discover fire and the wheel? Do you go to the local water hole with your club to find a partner?

"And Adelaide fan's we're bagging Redhage"

Fan's = possessive title
We're = we are
were = once was

Are you trying to say "And Adelaide fans were bagging Redhage (for flopping)"?


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Glen
Last week
00:24 12 Feb 18

Reply #672385

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Agreed, the flop is poorly administered, too contentious. Get rid of it sure. How about using the rules that have been around for ever, i.e. deliberately fouling a player on the shot after a foul already called on the play. 2:01 left in the first half. Not hard to get correct!


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Anonymous
Last week
04:46 12 Feb 18

Reply #672387

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

SIxer fans didn't kick up a stink when damian Martin was teched for a flop when tripping on his own feet last week.


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Tornado
Last week
07:58 12 Feb 18

Reply #672392

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

I think the whole Sobey flop thing is a bit over hyped.


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Anonymous
Last week
08:16 12 Feb 18

Reply #672395

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Another swing and a miss for Jack. Stop trying to be funny.


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Udog
Last week
08:19 12 Feb 18

Reply #672397

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

I'm with Glen. Makes sense to get rid of crap rules that make refs look even worse.


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FM
Last week
09:33 12 Feb 18

Reply #672403

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

#387 that's because he flopped.

Gleeson: What happened
Martin: He stood on my foot.
Gleeson He stood on his foot He stood on his foot.
Ref: I didn't see that
Gleeson I did
Cough cough BS.

Video. flop.


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Udog
Last week
10:07 12 Feb 18

Reply #672409

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

It did look like a Martin flop


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Isaac
Last week
10:19 12 Feb 18

Reply #672411

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Imagine if that Sobey ejection had come in a close, finals game? It would get spoken of for years.

His flop should've been a no call, and then him asking for a flop (with attitude) probably a warning.


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gongski
Last week
10:27 12 Feb 18

Reply #672412

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

Hawks owner had a 3 year plan.......3 years is now up. Seems bored with his toy.... business has been taken over and kicked of the board. Why sign Bevo to a long term deal in this league. 4 years. You make the GF and next season players underperform but somehow its the coaches fault. What about front office when are they accountable, GM more concerned about being courted by pretty young things in short skirts, that was his major off season signing. Get rid off people loyal to the organisation and the team and bring back someone who last time they were involved threatened to sue the club. Thats the level of his ability. NOT GM material, wouldnt be surprised if owner walks...but hey just an opinion


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Anonymous
Last week
13:44 12 Feb 18

Reply #672448

re: Hawks v Sixers Feb 11

"Another swing and a miss for Jack. Stop trying to be funny."

Not a Sixer or Wildcat fan, but I laughed.


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