Anonymous
Earlier this year

Justin Nelson tweet re mt Gambier

NZNBL GM Justin Nelson tweeted the following this morning:

I need to be careful talking about BA's decision on Mt Gambier .... however, being an Australian myself and growing up always being told to roll your sleeves up and have a go, to have a crack and give it a shot, it’s tough to see an Aussie club held back from doing just that.

Assuming this means BA are stopping the Pioneers from playing in the NZNBL.

Anyone got more info?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

https://www.nznbl.basketball/australias-mount-gambier-denied-entry-into-nznbl/

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes. It's official now blocked by BA and Kestleman. Take that to the bank.

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PeterJohn  
Earlier this year

The article suggests it's the Australian NBL who've leaned on BA to prevent Mt Gambier playing in NZNBL. Maybe concerned about a potential rival to their NBL1 project? Not sure why else the ANBL would be worried?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Regional Australia shat on again

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why do they have any pll in what Mt Gambier wants to do outsideBA and NBL1?

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Reality  
Earlier this year

Surely BA can;t stop them?

Unless they then stop the junior teams/association from entering comps i can't see what BA can do from stopping an independent entity from entering a comp anywhere in the world.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

a regional SA team denied entry to NBL1 due to dominating the last few years.

BA should be helping teams exist and prosper.

Just shit Victorian treatment again..

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

All these things have to be approved by FIBA also. It's one of the reasons the proposed Chinese team couldn’t enter the NBL because FIBA wouldn’t sanction it. I’d suggest being a member of BA Mt Gambier would need approval to join, use Australian referee’s etc Seems odd to ban them when you won’t allow them in NBL1 but you allow the Huskies to play.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Diminishing the Nzbl product. Kestleman getting nervous and BA capitulated.

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JJ  
Earlier this year

Keslteman owns australian basketball, what can we do now. one of the reasons the former BA CEO was not retained was due to standing up to Larry on some issues which he didn't like.

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JJ  
Earlier this year

FIBA was not a fan at all about a chinese team coming to Australia however now due to being in same FIBA conference it can be done, not easy but can be done. Another issue was Kestleman wanted to control too much of the Chinese team etc something the Chinese were not a fan of. Larry has done some amazing things for the league and we wouldn't be where we are now without his money. The China project for all it was promoted as was a fail, nothing significant at all and Jeremy has no idea how to work with Chinese. There have been a lot more positives than negatives though with Kestleman so I actually feel a pure focus on Australian basketball is best way forward.

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JJ  
Earlier this year

Its a shame for MTG that they are getting blocked, it's BA's job to help develop the sport. NZ is part of us, it's a sad day when we stop teams from trying to make themselves better.

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FM  
Earlier this year

Anticompetitive behaviour. People in the Mount have always punched higher than their belts.

Unless the BA and NBL are going to provide a suitable competition for this team with a long SEABL history to play in, I don't think they can block it.

NBL/BA just about to get dragged through the mud for what reason? This decision doesn't go against Mt Gambier, it goes against any rural town / city trying to compete in a competitive competition instead of just playing outback country league. Expect heavy lobbying at National party and rural electorates. Just too much negative towards our game.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I suspect you'll find Mt. Gambier will be admitted to NBL1 now they have a women's program. Deny them that and a legal challenge would certainly be on the cards.

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Reality  
Earlier this year

It is obvious that they'll get NBL1 next season otherwise this is a disgrace.

If they don't get NBL1 people in SA are pretty narrow minded so you'd expect they might even tell them to get stuffed as well.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Not sure what you mean there Reality. How does it make SA narrow minded if they don't get in to NBL1?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nbl 1 should be elite winter competition, it's been so bad, compared to last seabl and NZ league, LK done lot great things but not this time. Hopefully they can trim nbl 1 to 10 - 12 best teams and Mount Gambier get in. Have promotion and relegation.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Only one solution now - Pioneers to the G League

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

MTG will be apart of one of the new NBL1 conferences next year.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

As others have suggested this clearly means MtG will be allowed into the NBL1 next year otherwise it's blatant restraint of trade by BA and they would be in trouble legally.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

With the money they are paying their players in the PL they will kill the weak NBL1 competition as well. Kinda pointless isn't it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Can't fault an organisation for being organised and successful. The beauty now of being in NBL1 (assuming it happens ;) is they keep their women's team alive.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

have i missed something. why are we assuming they are in nbl1?

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Team Mate  
Earlier this year

Pioneers are still a long way off being admitted to nbl1.

Is there anyone reading who actually knows why BA, BV and now LK are making life so difficult for them?

Surely not their SEABL success? Is there more to this?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sure is LK influencing BA before the flood gates open and their is a weaker NBL. That's why.
With the rumour mill rife in Hobart now about what LK actually wants it's less likely right now they will ever be admitted.
If he drops his expectations of what the Government will give him, Tassie might get in. Otherwise forget it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So BA block MG getting in to NZ and then stop them getting in to NBL1?
LEGAL CHALLENGE

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NBL1 is expanding and MTG will be in.

Take it to the bank.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Strange that they would have 2 bids in at the one time.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#384, how do you know?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

BA approached Basketball Adelaide to allow Mt Gambier into the Premier League on the basis that they had no other option as to where to play.

I believe Basketball Adelaide should say no to next season as there appears to be two options especially the NZNBL. Put the pressure back onto BA to deliver the solution rather than blocking the solution and to assist Mt Gambier getting what they want and most likely deserve!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

All these, "NBL1 is inferior to SEABL," comments. You're kidding yourselves.

My Gambier have an incredibly successful history in SEABL, cannot argue that. But they weren’t great in 2018 so all this rubbish about them not being accepted into NBL1 because Victorian’s didn’t want to lose is farcical. They weren’t accepted because they didn’t meet some form of criteria at that point in time - maybe they do now.

If they get accepted in 2020, does NBL1 suddenly become the greatest competition ever?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nbl1 is diluted in talent due to the extra reams, better players gone to nznbl as well.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Put the pressure back onto BA to deliver the solution.." You can't take that decision back. Make NO mistake Kestleman is involved in all this. This situation should NEVER have occurred.

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