Jack Toft
Last week

SEM v NZ Nov 9

Wow, what a debut for Rice, he was steaming, but now he has a chance to really shine by backing it up against the team who are hotter than an SJW at a climate change rally.

New Zealand are riddled by injuries to key players, but they are still putting up an effort any wounded soldier on the western front would be proud of. Surprisingly, although they are 2 and 5, their % is over 100% meaning when they are losing they are missing out by a whisker.

SE Melbourne have showed United how it is done this season and the green machine is like a V Line. Although momentum has slowed a little bit, they are doing enough to maintain top 4 and face a challenge in the next few rounds to remain there. Better get an extra shot from Rollo's boys because New Zealand won't go down without a fight.

Phoenix to win by 2

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Mystro  
Last week

Nz will be desperate but I'm not sure that’ll be enough to get them over the line.

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AngusH  
Last week

I like NZ's chances, but a lot of responsibility on Hampton re: guarding Roberson. Since the Wildcats game I feel like the league has sort of figured him out by being physical and keeping him out of his groove, but that's a big ask for a young'in like Hampton.

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Mystro  
Last week

Hampton has used his length to trouble smaller guards well so far and he's faced the best in Cotton, Ware and Trimble

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Anonymous  
Last week

Breakers have lost a few games by not much against quality opposition. SEM aren't slouches, but the Breakers are surely overdue. Breakers by 6.

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Anonymous  
Last week

"overdue" is just another word for "not good enough"
Phoenix by phive or six.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Or another word for unlucky...

If SEM's defence is bad Breakers will shoot the proverbial out of it and it’s a blowout. The Breakers losses are to the consensus top 3 teams and all 3 are solid defensively.

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Camel 31  
Last week

So, if Rice is allowed to play more than 17 minutes, this time, then,
NZ will win.
That's a sweet shooting action. Pretty to watch.

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Anonymous  
Last week

NZ handicap +4.5 looks promising to be honest

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Anonymous  
Last week

I must say I luaghed seeing Rice simply getting his 5th by deciding to foul out with a blatant disqualifier. He was cooked and showed more than enough he can play. Off court is the test.

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Perthworld  
Last week

So now the score updates too slowly.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Did RJ just hit a SEM player in retaliation? Crappy replays.

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Perthworld  
Last week

He did, kind of went for a headlock on Roberson.

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Anonymous  
Last week

I was expecting Glen Rice to start swinging

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Perthworld  
Last week

Probably too jetlagged for that.

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Yinka Dare  
Last week

These refs are stupid. No feel for the game. Just let them play.

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Anonymous  
Last week

is glen rice high?

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Yinka Dare  
Last week

Rice decides to go after Abercrombie who is trying to seperate Hampton lol

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Perthworld  
Last week

Rosen had no idea what was going on and admitted to it even though it was as a pretty simple chain of events. Useless commentary.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Refs got It right by the law.
Still a little stiff on the first tech call but grab a guy around the head is legit.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Viewership for this game definitely just dropped dramatically

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Anonymous  
Last week

And Jon Chapman strikes again 3 games in a row I take it these refs don't get dropped

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Anonymous  
Last week

So magden didn't get a flop warning I’m confused

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Yinka Dare  
Last week

Didn't madgen have a go at Goulding for flopping a week or so ago?

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AngusH  
Last week

Not incredibly smart from Hampton, but I think maybe a touch unlucky too. I think the retaliation against Roberson probably didn't need to get called.

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Perthworld  
Last week

I think he was lucky that the headlock didn't connect.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Rice is amazing.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Rice is dominating. Most talented player in the Nbl

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Anonymous  
Last week

(Viewership for this game definitely just dropped dramatically)

I think it just picked up

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Anonymous  
Last week

Phoenix playing lazy.

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MACDUB  
Last week

SEM's bench is totally ordinary;

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Anonymous  
Last week

Henry's gone when hopson comes back.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Those wre some brave kids rubbing the head of a guy who punched his own teammate

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Anonymous  
Last week

How can you keep Crockett and benson . Seriously there are better available,

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Anonymous  
Last week

God Rice is theatrical and dramatic.

Noticed he kept distance as well from his team in a timeout.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Rice looks like he's been shot in the leg :)

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Perthworld  
Last week

Flashbacks of Carlos Powell.

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Anonymous  
Last week

This guy has an extensive criminal history, geez didn't know how much crap his done.

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Perthworld  
Last week

At least he hasn't scammed mates and gone bankrupt.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Lol, he said that too.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Someone tell me why they don't give Li a shot in a situation like this. The guy is China’s best young pg prospect.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Dan Shamir hates Asians, that is why li won't get court time.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Has Li travelled with the team?

Tough run of injuries for the Breakers.

If Rice comes back in Breakers to win this. I think he's relaxed, but that doesn't mean he isn't engaged.

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Tom  
Last week

Sth Melbourne look very weak. Creek has not stepped up. Stephens and Crockett are poor. Madgen is a good open shooter but has to be one of the weakest defenders going around. Roberson MIA. Game is fhere for the Breaker's taking.

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Anonymous  
Last week

S,e won't go far unless they get Wesley back and 2 new imports.

So much hype going into nbl 19/29 but so many poor import choices.

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Perthworld  
Last week

I just found Rice's worst crime:

In December 2015, he appeared in season 8 of The Real Housewives of Atlanta

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Zodiac  
Last week

Roberson has really gone off the boil after his hot start, better scouted now I guess.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Hampton gone off the boil too. Hasn't even put up a shot for nearly 2 full quarters now.

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Anonymous  
Last week

if the breakers lose it, I'll fuck them all over

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Perthworld  
Last week

How?

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MACDUB  
Last week

Pretty horror 3rd quarter by the Breakers. Again, its the 3rd quarter. Seriously, what do they do at HT?


Is it just me or do things just seem chaotic with the Breakers - guys are remonstrating, all the Breakers coaches are up and running the sideline, guys are complaining and biting at eachother on TO's etc. I have leadership concerns about this Breaker team and whether the coach really has control of this group?

The language used by the SEM coach to describe the short players in that TO made me LOL!

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Tom  
Last week

Melbourne coach must have read my post to his team at half!

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Anonymous  
Last week

it's better to join the korean team from KBL to the nbl and take out the clowns from nzb

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Zodiac  
Last week

The Breakers are a mess Rice really hurts them how much he hogs it. The guy is clearly showcasing himself at the expense of his current team, no NBL team would be interested in signing Rice if he keeps this up.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Are they ever going to get this telecast right. It's rubbish and the commentary is crap. Hudson???? Seriously.

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MACDUB  
Last week

Whilst Hudson is a skilful commentator no doubt, I'm really not a fan of him for basketball - because he uses AFL terms/AFL commentary phrases to describe the plays (probably not a big deal but it just irks me).

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Perthworld  
Last week

Rice is amazing... ly bad.

This has happened once before with hog Carlos Powell that the previous ownership learnt never to do again. Walsh getting that lesson now.

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Anonymous  
Last week

NZ come across as a bit of a basket case

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AngusH  
Last week

Man, Rice looks like a disaster - this NZ huddle also looks like a disaster, yikes.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Boucher gave that team some integrity, now it has none.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Not as bad as Creek's leg tatts, though.

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Anonymous  
Last week

So stupid how ater majok is not in the rotation.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Yeah, Majok must really suck if he can't crack into a losing team's rotation.

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Tom  
Last week

Pineau player of match.

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Perthworld  
Last week

Pineau 18pts.

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Perthworld  
Last week

FT SEM 103-78 NZB

NZ... fcking LOL!

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MACDUB  
Last week

That was disgusting by the Breakers. They just got clapped by 25 against a Phoenix team who really didn't play too well at all (and when SEM did play well it was a large part due to horrible defence).

Walsh says he has "high expectations" on personnel - so where to from here?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Where are those Pineau haters from the start of the season?
Guy is holding the fort whilst Wesley is out Injured and benson is on the bench.

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Zodiac  
Last week

I didn't see Benson with the team I guess he's been released.

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Anonymous  
Last week

When is Hopson back?

What's wrong with Weeks and when is he back!?

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Sean  
Last week

Questioning Dan Shamir's coaching ability... the 2nd half always seems to be a problem for us, he doesn't trust his bench rotation and the starters just jack up jump shot after jump shot (Seems to be a lot of hero ball) and then get gassed.

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Anonymous  
Last week

How does a team with so much firepower not score 20 points in 3 out of 4 quarters?

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Anonymous  
Last week

"Is it just me or do things just seem chaotic with the Breakers - guys are remonstrating, all the Breakers coaches are up and running the sideline, guys are complaining and biting at eachother on TO's etc. I have leadership concerns about this Breaker team and whether the coach really has control of this group?"

Absolutely! They've gone from the best run club in the league 5 years back to a complete shambles

Shamir looks like he’s completely out of his depth.
He’s definitely lost control of the playing group... not to mention is assistant who is constantly up pacing the sideline screaming. None of the players seems interested in listening to him with their attention all over the place during timeouts, especially Rice Jr.

But, none of it surprises me. Here are some observations from the Breakers season thus far, in order...
- Appointed new coach (and director of basketball operations!) with zero local experience
- Their best local player (Webster) who is a bit of a head case, asks for a release to go overseas but is refused and forced to stay!
- Sign Next Star RJ Hampton and promise he will start in the point guard position (the key on court leadership role). Team is being led on court by an inexperienced 18 year (albeit a very talented one) with a head case chucker (Webster) on one side, and another overrated import chucker (Henry) on the other
- Their pre-season preparation was extremely disjointed and included a distracting US tour where they got comprehensively thrashed... twice
- Their best and most experienced player (Hopson) goes down with injury... obviously not his nor their fault
- Coach (Director of Basketball Operations) Shamir during post game interviews appears relatively inarticulate while also having zero answers on why their performances are so poor and what they are going to do about it
- Replace Hopson with A-Grade stoner, headcase and well known distraction Rice Jr who is clearly a world class talent but is not the sharpest knife in the drawer nor a leader

Overall, it’s been an outstanding start to the year by the Breakers!

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Anonymous  
Last week

Webster is one of NZs greatest ever players. Best learn some respect. Easy to Moan your arse off from the sideline.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Another game. Another referee master piece!

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Perthworld  
Last week

In addition to being one of if not the greatest cheater.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Majok sits again??

Vodonavich 9 minutes. Would have had a donut except got a turnover.

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Anonymous  
Last week

I wasn't disputing that Webster isn’t a good player, but he is a bit of a chucker... high usage, low FG% over his career.

My post was focused on the numerous factors that have contributed to the Breakers breakdown (pun intended)

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Anonymous  
Last week

That's true. But Webster is a bright spot. He is playing well and attitude is great. Give the guy a break, he deserves it

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Anonymous  
Last week

Webster's defence and passing has been outstanding. He must be top 5 in assists.

I can’t remember the last time the Breakers played that badly.

I don’t think Shamir is the only problem. The Breakers generally play well in the first half. There’s also been moments where their passing and offence has also been sublime. It’s like they go and get stoned at halftime.

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Anonymous  
Last week

The fact he's continued to play after they refused his release is a sign he’s turned his career (and life) around. So credit where credit is due

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Anonymous  
Last week

A lot of upset Breakers fans on social media.

Where are you Matt Walsh?

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MACDUB  
Last week

We're upset because when you do as much as what you've done with the franchise, you have to win.

The fans would have probably come to grips early on with the off-court ownership problems if we started off with a better record.

But now, the ownership group can't exactly run off the "we're here to win" script as a justification for the off-court drama - because its clearly not working.

I've always said that if you're going to be the villain, you sure as hell need to make sure you're a successful villain. Your success is less scrutinised when you're the good guy.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Yes maccub.

But u forget he is the owner and can do what he wants. I didn't like what he did last year, bc I felt any new owner needs to.learn the ropes. But this year is his.

Changes had to be made.

Support the team and hope they do well, otherwise there won't be a team

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Anonymous  
Last week

Creek not performing ... who the f..k brought that up before ??
21 , 4.5 and 6.5 at good clips with peripherals and has lead them to a 5 and 2 record . He is the league MVP at the moment .

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Was at the game today and noticed Walsh screaming at Loeliger following the Hampton ejection.

Not a good look, imo.

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koberulz  
Earlier this week

Nothing this Breakers ownership does is a good look.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this week

Was at the game today and noticed Walsh screaming at Loeliger following the Hampton ejection.

There's something about the guy that makes me feel this is not going to end well for the Breakers franchise.

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Mystro  
Earlier this week

At this stage put a fork in the season.

Frustrating to watch.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

"Changes had to be made.

Support the team and hope they do well, otherwise there won't be a team"

I agree and I have been patient in the “give new ownership” a chance. But that was farcical. Fans deserve some answers. From both Shamir and Walsh. Some of the issues you'd expect from an inexperienced coach. Presumably that’s why they got rid of Braswell and brought in someone like Shamir. Can’t help but think now that Braswell wasn’t the problem last year...

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Mystro  
Earlier this week

I agree, for all the talk of Shamir the Breakers are no better off in the win column.
Doesn't seem to have any trust in Majok or Deng which leaves Ashley’s back minutes to Vodanovich.
NZ gave the Phoenix decent looks and then at the other end went iso for contested jumpers.
Unless Loe, Delaney and Hopson can recover miraculously, the Breakers are done.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Shamir coaching looks like the same formula as braswell last year. No offence. Just jack it up. He has even gone more perimeter focused. At least he plays Webster and Henry together. Braswell hardly ever played Webster and Richard. But Henry is playing poorly as the league has scouted he is a lefty.

Why recruit majok and Deng. Pointless. Henry played top minutes last night, which to out could say was needed as they needed a PG, but they have no problem playing people out of position at centre. And Henry isn't playing well.


And the refs. Good on Walsh for unloading on loriger. That was a terrible call on Hampton. Can u imagine Perth ever having such a call. And the boards lighting up if it did.


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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

The calls against Hampton were correct, so for Walsh to get into a screaming match with the league boss at the game just shows what an absolute moron he is.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Putting aside everything else and focusing on the ejection, there was talk this morning that Hampton was hit in his back the play prior. Watching him on Madgen, he's holding his back when it happens. Madgen flops. Hampton barely stands over him. In my view, Hampton should only be given an unsportsmanlike for the contact to the head of Roberson.

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paul  
Earlier this week

Agreed. Overreaction from the refs re Hampton.

"Their pre-season preparation was extremely disjointed and included a distracting US tour where they got comprehensively thrashed... twice"

They lost one of those games by 14 didn't they? And were within single figures in the last quarter?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

I think Hampton was deservedly tossed for the shoulder on Madgen (unsportsmanlike) and then the contact to the head of Roberson.

A number of other things...

When you watch the scuffle, Rice Jr pushes Abercrombie in the back while he is trying to calm Hampton, then does it again and jaws at him. This is a guy who's come in with a known bad attitude, pushing a veteran experienced player in the league. Rice Jr should not have been brought into this mess as he’s clearly only going to make things worse.

Then their assistant coach runs onto the court mouthing off. As Hammer said, that guy needs to chill out, but alarmingly Shamir looks to have very little control over him. His barking continued in the following huddle.

Walsh then after the ejection, walks around in front of the crowd and makes an absolute fool of himself mouthing off at Loeliger. This is despite it being the right call per the video review.

Wow, the Breakers are a mess

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Did he really put a shoulder into Madgen? For mine, he doesn't drop his shoulder at all. And Hampton is so skinny. That was a standard foul at worst. Madgen flops like he’s been hit by Jawai or Vukona. The flopping in the league is a disgrace.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

But yes, Rice on Abercrombie was strange. RJ and Abercrombie are close, apparently, so it makes sense Abercrombie was trying to get away from there as quickly as possible. Creek was also professional in trying to break it up. Roberson was a bit of a dick for such an experienced pro, trashing talking an 18 year old. Scenes like a social league.

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paul  
Earlier this week

I'm pretty sure the contact on the screen was called a standard foul. I think they gave Hampton a tech for 'standing over' Madgen, which was very tame and an overreaction in my opinion, and then a USF for contact to Roberson's head which was justified.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Why didn't they tech the Phoenix bench for the trainer coming on the court?

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koberulz  
Earlier this week

If Hampton hadn't stood over Madgen nothing else would have happened.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Where was he meant to go? He bumped Madgen, Madgen is under him, he looks down. It's not like he stepped over him ala Iverson.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Is there a clip of the incident for those of us that missed it please?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

A good summary and a link to video from Olgun: https://twitter.com/OlgunUluc/status/1193066398676701185?s=20

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Thanks.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

"Did he really put a shoulder into Madgen? For mine, he doesn't drop his shoulder at all." Guess you don't know a lot about basketball then. Deliberate foul and then stood over him which is an inflammatory action not needed.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

That was in response to the comment that Hampton dropped his shoulder. It's a standard foul no more no less.

He’s standing over Madgen’s feet. He arguably trips into this stand over by Madgen. It’s not like he’s standing over Madgen’s chest after walking over to Madgen. We might as well start teching Long for his aggressive flexes as Post-dunk or post-block because it’s disrespectful.

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mike  
Earlier this week

Madgen hit RJ with a moving screen as hard as RJ hit him back - Silly by RJ but the difference was Madgen took the opportunity to flop. If he doesn't flop this all this doesn't happen - so Madgen does well for his team by flopping and RJ being silly (a lesson he should learn from) - hurts his team - but again the NBL has so much flopping. Goulding gets rewarded for flopping and kicking his legs out shooting threes - Mitch Norton hardly seem to not fall on the fllor and appeal whenever going to the basket. I get sick of watching imports get fouled out and locals who play no D at all have few issues.

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