Makur should not be ahead of Anstey or Anderson.

Bogut, Mills and Longley have been excellent.

How is it not Longley? The starting C on three straight title teams AND he played in the biggest games. Bogut was unplayable in the pivotal games.

Bogut made all-NBA and all-Defense once each, a good rule of thumb for determining the top 20-25 players in the league each season. Longley never came close to doing that.

Longley.

It's already Simmons. He’s the closest to a franchise is player the aussies have had.

Simmons has done what exactly? Longley hands down. Daylight next.

What has Simmons done? A whole lot more than Longley had done by the same age.

At 23, Longley had a disappointing rookie season (disappointing for the seventh pick in the draft anyway) under his belt. That's it.

By 23, Simmons has won Rookie of the Year (Longley didn't receive a single vote for the award), been selected to play in two All-Stars Games (Longley never did his whole career), played in 22 playoff games (Longley didn't play in the playoffs until this third year), has 28 triple doubles (Longley had none his whole career), has averaged almost double the rebounds of Longley even though Longley was a centre and Simmons is a point guard.

depends if you measure success by stats or titles

Simons
Daylight
More daylight
Even more daylight
Mills/longley

It's not as simple as only defining success by stats OR titles. Both are important. Individual and team success needs to factor into the discussion because we're comparing individuals, not teams.

Longley has more titles than Bogut and Simmons, but I don't think that automatically makes him the best all-time Aussie.

Longley won his titles playing with Jordan, Pippen and Rodman. Bogut won his title playing with Curry, Thompson, and Green. It's not as if we're talking about two players who were the best player on their respective championships teams. Not even close.

Both players fulfilled their role and contributed to the title, no doubt. Longley fit well in the triangle with his passing and Bogut gave the Warriors rim protection they needed.

But let's be real. The Bulls could have switched Longley with any number of other centres who could have fulfilled that role at a good enough standard for the team to still win a title. The same is true for Bogut. But you couldn't have found too many shooting guards to replace Jordan, or point guards to replace Curry, for the teams to still be as successful.

It's not as simple as using team success as the only way to compare players. If it was, Jud Buechler was better than Karl Malone and Bill Wennington was better than Patrick Ewing.

Longley started at bad culture franchise at the time, Simmons has picked his way through every level from schools to colleges to his nba team coach. He can be great but has not over taken Longley or Bogut yet. Being part of championship teams is everything in team sports and both Longley and Bogut have done that. Simmons could not even get his college team to the play offs.

I love longley
I hate Bogut.

But clearly Bogut $hits all over Longley.

Simmons is a franchise NBA player.
Bogut is not was not.

Simmons is already our best NBA player even if he retires tomorrow.

He is on a completely different level.