Anonymous
Last month

Opals to bring back bodysuits

The Opals are bringing back the iconic bodysuits for the Tokyo Olympics.

Seemed like the Twitterazi were outraged and called this sexist, but the players like it and were the ones who wanted to bring it back.

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koberulz  
Last month

You can't ask to wear uniforms that never existed in the first place, though.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Not a fan, some players have said it use to restrict shooting because they were tight around the shoulders. Maybe some design changes have happened.

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koberulz  
Last month

I do wonder if any of the current crop have actually worn them at all.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So clearly Ebzery has made the final 12.
Deserves to start at pg, like the WC.
Every other tournament we've had Mitchell start the opals have lost.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Not all the opals want to wear this, I can guarantee you that.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Early April fools?

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Anonymous  
Last month

So pretty much 4/5s of the roster have never played in this uniform type before and you going back to it now because of what nostalgia?

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Spinner  
Last month

Aside from all the "other reasons" the body suits were changed, at the time they said it was all about marketing. Every young fan at the time wanted a Lauren Jackson singlet to collect, not a body suit.

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Luuuc  
Last month

If the players like 'em, I like 'em.

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RobT  
Last month

It's up to the girls/ladies what they want to wear but from the sidelines I noticed that every girl (wearing a "onesie") would forever be tugging at their thigh-hems. Seemed to be a distraction and certainly whilst adjusting said thigh-hems, your hands aren't ready to play.

I have never(ever) worn one (a onesie) so I wouldn't know.

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RobT  
Last month

Unlike Luuuc, it seems!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

"I do wonder if any of the current crop have actually worn them at all."

What makes you say that

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koberulz  
Earlier this month

The fact that they haven't been in use since before most of them would have been in a position to wear one?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Most girls wear tight skins both upper and lower body, would it not be similar?

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Perthworld  
Earlier this month

Finally some good news this week.

It's a yes from me.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this month

Start of April fools?

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twenty four  
Earlier this month

As far as I can tell, most of the twitter 'outrage' consisted of koberulz trying to explain sexism/feminism to the Opals players.

Good work koberulz!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Did the Boomers get any say in their uniform design? If not then sexism claims could be warranted.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Not doubt lead by Cambage lol.

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Hoopie  
Earlier this month

So what happens if some of the Opals refuse to wear them? (Thinking of Liz in particular)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

After seeing her last Instagram story, I am pretty sure Liz will wear anything.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

"As far as I can tell, most of the twitter 'outrage' consisted of koberulz trying to explain sexism/feminism to the Opals players.

Good work koberulz!"

Did you respond to him on Twitter?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Hahahahahaa koberulz is a spud

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

https://mobile.twitter.com/koberulz/status/1377129212511842305

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koberulz  
Earlier this month

It seems that got added into a news article about it. That would explain the number of idiots in my mentions.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Koberulz: This is sexist.
Opals: we wanted to wear them in 2021 Olys and ok'd it.
Koberulz: but in the 90’s no one asked

This is his argument.

Far out Isaac you have some absolute gems on this board

I mean anyone who has "rulz"in their name should be ignored I guess

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

I assume people criticising him here also responded to him on Twitter.

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koberulz  
Earlier this month

The number of people who read "there is no reason for these uniforms to exist" and see "there is no reason for the Opals to wear these uniforms, given that they already exist" is staggering.

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koberulz  
Earlier this month

And for that matter the number of people who read "is there any reason for this?" and see "there is no reason for this". Which apparently includes me now, but the sentence was getting too unwieldy for my previous point.

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bob  
Earlier this month

they were brought in in the 90's in the hopes that they would increase viewership by making the product more appealing to men. This is a backwards step, whether the players have requested it or not.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this month

Unlike Luuuc, it seems!

Nope, I haven't worn them either, which is one of many reasons why my opinion doesn't really matter. But this place would be pretty quiet if people who didn't matter stopped throwing their 2 cents in so here I am.

As an Opals fan since before the original bodysuits were being worn, I do have bit of a soft spot for the "iconic" stature that the players are trying to give them. Our only gold medal was won in bodysuits.

With athletic wear in general, skin-tight everything seems to be the way things are atm. Go down to your local popular walking/jogging spot and what women (especially) are wearing now is very different to what they were wearing 10 years ago. So there's limited value in comparisons with the past IMO. Fashion changes.
The only downside I see is if the players don't feel comfortable playing in them.
Feel good = play better.
Given that this change is player-driven it feels pretty safe to assume they don't dislike them.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

They want it like the baggy green, will be used at olympics and WCs from now on.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

I mean lets be honest, body suits are not the most flattering for a fair few of them so I can see the argument Koberulz is making to put them back in baggy shorts and Jerseys.

Well played KR

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ME  
Earlier this month

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ME  
Earlier this month

A lot of ridiculous pearl clutching around the non-issue of body suits going on. It's as though they think the big bad patriarchy boogeyman has forced this on the poor, voiceless Opals. No.. that's not what has happened. These sportswomen have made the informed decision to wear the bodysuit because it has history for them. There is PRIDE in wearing that Opals body suit. When they were watching the girls, dreaming Olympic dreams, they pictured themselves in that body suit.

But no, because the body suit is a body suit, and is "tight", I suppose, suddenly questions of sexism arise. For whatever reason Kobe has been on a Twitter campaign to try and pinpoint the sexism, and has failed miserably to do so. When he cant say the current iteration is a reflection of sexism, he goes "well yeah but, the body suit wouldn't exist if not for sexism!" When asked to provide absolutely any evidence that men were behind the original body suit, that women didn't design them, or anything else, he falls miserably short again.

No one is getting a free perve out of the Opal's body suit. Theyre not made to sexually accentuate anything. They're practical for their purpose. And when people argument "but men wouldn't wear that", well... men and women dress differently if you hadn't already noticed. You cant superimpose your expectations of men and women and then act like sexism is the only answer when both don't do the exact same thing. I think women are very comfortable vocalizing their feelings these days. They're not shrinking violets and the times when they might have been are long in the past. If wearing the body suit was upsetting any Opals this year, I would bet my bottom dollar you'd be hearing about it. I don't think they need the likes of KobeRulez to save them and speak for them.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

It will be scrapped after olympics when they look at shooting percentage.

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ME  
Earlier this month

"It will be scrapped after olympics when they look at shooting percentage."

Yeah, because shooting percentage really hurt the Opals every single time they've medalled.... lol.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Incels! Incels everywhere!!!!

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koberulz  
Earlier this month

It's as though they think the big bad patriarchy boogeyman has forced this on the poor, voiceless Opals
No it isn't.

When he cant say the current iteration is a reflection of sexism, he goes "well yeah but, the body suit wouldn't exist if not for sexism!"
So...my original argument?

The fact that your Twitter profile picture is "oh noes Ben Simmons whined about racism" says a lot about you as a person.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Hey Kobe how about you take your trash takes to Twitter and stay there permanently?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Seconded!

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ANON  
Earlier this month

This place doesn't really matter because people who don't really matter throw their 2 cents worth in thinking it matters ;).... Having said that, i completely agree with your last comment & with ME's as well. It's sport, it's modern gym/fitness apparel most women now wear, nothing sexist about it. I've had 2 ex's that played WNBL in them & loved wearing them. Even men wear them in other sports like Track & Field so anyone that's crying out 'sexism' it's really just a bra burning feminist still craving attention... That should wind a few up! Hahaaa:)

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koberulz  
Earlier this month

Being disagreed with by people who think "feminist" is an insult makes me all warm and fuzzy.

I remember the NBA tried skin-tight jerseys a few years back, and all the players were very against them. And those weren't one-piece uniforms, either.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Koberulz didn't bring his takes to this thread. Others did so blame them.

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twenty four  
Earlier this month

"Being disagreed with by people who think "feminist" is an insult makes me all warm and fuzzy."

Don't flatter yourself champ. That's not what's happening. At all.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Lots of players men and women wear skins under their playing singlets. Shooting percentages have also increased over the years especially 3 pt shooting percentages.

Interesting that a group of empowered athletes make a decision on a team uniform and then outsiders feel that their input is irrelevant and that only their own view is the right one.


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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

I don't actually understand what Kobe point is. Is it that men and women should never have different uniforms?

Should that extend to normal clothes like bras and skirts then too

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Its KR way of getting laid. Relax ppl.

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ME  
Earlier this month

I am not sure Kobe has a point. Classic virtue signalling. If there were any question the girls weren't happy with the uniform, I too would be screwing my face at the decision. But they've asked for it. There is nothing even vaguely revealing about the uniform. The girls actually look formidable in them. Kobe is just trying to pull from the past to find unsubstantiated reasons why this uniform, which women probably invented if we look close enough, is somehow sexist, for god knows what reason.

He then inferred women feeling any need to look feminine is somehow sexist. This inference assumes that masculine dress standards are the 'norm' and that it is the feminine dress choices that are 'otherized'. He pulled some photo out from the 1980s where the girls were wearing some sort of speedos on a baskebtall court. And yeah, it's a bit vexing to see that given today's sensibilities. But if we remember clearly, the boys were wearing short shorts that no one would ever choose to wear today. The world was a very different place in the 1980s. That doesn't mean women wearing those things was anything to do with sexism. I don't think anyone thought seeing particularly butch women in speedos was going to somehow draw the male viewer.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Kobes whole stance on this is nonsensical
He probably thinks that Lorna Jane is sexist for making apparel intended for females to wear
He also seems to think that there is no difference between the male and female physique

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koberulz  
Earlier this month

There is nothing even vaguely revealing about the uniform.
There's nothing even vaguely revealing about women not being able to vote, either.

Kobe is just trying to pull from the past to find unsubstantiated reasons why this uniform, which women probably invented if we look close enough
Do you think women are incapable of sexism?

He pulled some photo out from the 1980s where the girls were wearing some sort of speedos on a baskebtall court. And yeah, it's a bit vexing to see that given today's sensibilities. But if we remember clearly, the boys were wearing short shorts that no one would ever choose to wear today. The world was a very different place in the 1980s.
The bodysuits didn't come about in a vacuum. Context is important, and those 1980s uniforms are context.

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ME  
Earlier this month

"There's nothing even vaguely revealing about women not being able to vote, either."

Oh my god. I cant even. I just cant. Kobe is comparing wilfully wearing body suits to women not having the right to vote like 130 years ago. Holy crap.

"Do you think women are incapable of sexism?"

Now women are sexist to themselves and they need Koberulz to save them. Is this really your mating strategy, Kobe? Just go to the gym and lift some weights. You dont have to be a white knight.

"The bodysuits didn't come about in a vacuum. Context is important, and those 1980s uniforms are context."

Context that the uniforms were in line with the other uniforms they chose to wear in that time - CHOSE TO WEAR. Yeah I am sure some women didn't like them. I also recall Andrew Bogut complaining about the Kings uniform being a bit uncomfortable. Are you saving him from the horrors of sexism too, because if women can be sexist to women, surely men can be sexist to men and design them uncomfortable uniforms?

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ME  
Earlier this month

Men and women wear different things by choice, therefore sexism - KobeRulz entire bizarre argument in a nut shell. Someone find him a woman who dresses like a man so he can be happy

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