F/M/K: Gaze, Henry, Wright

Please present a third and better option.

Hasn't had a chance? Bahahahaha

Should they consider Anthony Stewart.
Many Tasmanians think he is the bees knees.

Henry is terrible!!

Hindsight says you get Lindsay out of retirement as a coach and Drewy out of retirement as a player.

I am just as perplexed regarding some of the rotations Henry has chosen as the next guy. But his pregame comments got me wondering if there is more than meets the eye. He made it sound like there was some type of fitness issue with BP.

I would choose Henry but only because we don't have the benefit of hindsight with Henry.

Gaze was simply horrible.

He had the financial strength of the Kings and had 2 very good rosters (16/17 and 17/18), and an incredibly stacked roster in 18/19, and only just made the playoffs in that year only to be bundled out by Melbourne.

The 18/19 team had 1 old but serviceable MVP (Lisch), a recent MVP (Randle) and the to-be MVP in Bogut, to barely get into the playoffs is a failure, they should have won the championship.

Henry's tenure has just started and beset with injuries to key players. However I am seeing nothing insipring from Henry so far.

Even before Humphries went down the team was 6-7, and they way he handled the meltdowns against Perth at the NBL cup and then SEM the next week is deeply concerning. The Perth game with Paul giving us a high efficiency 26 in limited minutes and then SEM with multiple injuries including Sykes.

I don't know for sure Henry is bad, but that is the trajectory I am seeing at the moment.

How long does Vickerman get a pass?

Deepest team every year.

Most exp roster every year.

Has one just one chip (thanks to Lk help)

Obviously they both know the game. They are both just shit coaches. Potato head is a very good commentator and should just stick to that

I'm one of the biggest Andrew Gaze fans going around, but I must admit his coaching stint wasn't great. Absolute legend of a person, GOAT player, but didn't make it as a coach.

Henry's just passed the halfway mark of his first season. Give him time. Can't run this comparison yet.

One season from 12 years ago shouldn't be forefront in our judgments of him I wouldn't have thought

The thing that's hard to get over is that you don't get a second chance to make a first impression. Once that is set, it's a huge battle to change that impression.

Gaze suffered from that as a coach (unfortunately, he still lives with that first impression syndrome) and so is Henry currently (unfortunately, he also still lives with that first impression syndrome).

In Connor's defence, he has not enjoyed the benefits of a well-funded and very talented roster to start with as Gaze had. And Henry was (virtually) unknown to his roster.

Time may change "our" opinion of Connor but we have already had 13 chances to do that.

Anyone changed their 1st impression yet?

Vickerman has runs on the board. These 2 do not.

Are they the only two options because that's all JVG allowed Kelly to pick from? The only two 'coaches’ that would allow JVG to pick their roster on there behalf!

" As a Kings fan Gaze has been the worst period ever in the Kings history."

Why? Your team was worse before him lingering towards the bottom, and your team pre-Goorj era was so bad they were called the Violet Crumbles.

That doesn't make Gaze a good coach, but definitely not the worst.

Who was the last decent coach to work with JVG?

Wright coached 36ers to a grand final - he was a good coach regardless of people hating him.

That was the second grand final series, his first was vs Perth, after taking over from Marty Clarke.

You're blaming Wright for not being a good coach because they didn’t win it all after injuries to top players? What?

Wright was a good coach, people stating otherwise is mostly a reflection of his rivalry with rabid Perth fans. I also wonder what it makes all the other coaches who coached at the same time and didn’t do nearly as well?

People need to get over themselves. Gleeson is a good coach as well despite I’m sure being just as annoying to opposition fans. Definitely isn’t a Boomers HC quality though ;)

Voldemort was asked to do a Shamir and pulled out once he found out Joey had no idea he was being spoken to

Although come to think of it wasn't that part of the overall ploy to get rid of Joey.

" You're blaming Joey's well-deserved reputation as being someone difficult to deal with on Perth fans? What?"

No, where exactly did you learn to read?

Joey was an awesome coach but he just needed a change. It was obvious last year he'd reached his use by date but that happens to nearly everyone.
Definitely up there as one of the great nbl coaches. Could’ve easily had a title or two during his 6ers reign.
Should not even be mentioned with Henry or Gaze or Marty Clarke.
As for behaviour, I don’t see on the whole Joey was any worse than Gleeson.

Joey Wright was a very good coach, I wish he was back.

He took a last placed Sixer team coached by the Great Marty Clarke, got rid of Christophersen, added Gary Ervin came within 1 game of winning it all in 2013/14.

Then again a few years later when he took United to Game 5 of the GF without Childress.

How many other coaches can say they went to a GF twice in a 7 year span?

In recent memory its only Bevo, Lemanis, Vickerman, and Gleeson.

I was OK/happy to see Wright move on because he seemed to become stale with the Sixers and a change was required for the Sixers to move upwards, plus there seemed rumblings of issues with management.

I can put up with Wright punching players, punching other coaches and suggesting players not on board to end their lives in a private chat, as long as the results are there.

So far I don't see any positive results from Henry.

I can put up with Wright punching players, punching other coaches and suggesting players not on board to end their lives in a private chat, as long as the results are there.

Wright was a good coach had some success then it became stale and a culture issue and change was needed.

I don't put much weight into someone going theatrical on a private conversation.

People are super keen to attack others on private conversations without facing the music themselves for their own shit that they say in private. Until we have every private message ever made published for mutually assured destruction, people will attack others pretending they’ve never said anything that if publicised wouldn’t garner a similar reaction.

JVG out
Joey, bring him back

Joey had his faults, but there is no other coach that can develop a culture for success, even with limited budget

And ofcourse you've never said anything in private that if made public would be considered just as bad!

I have no qualms with saying I’ve been just as theatrical and crude in private as it is not the same as being literal, should not and cannot be considered the same as condoning.

If all of a sudden English language conventions and context cease to be a thing then what value is this language? Because it’s clearly not people attempting to understand the use of language which is the entire point of how communication works.

We are all very lucky our private messages haven’t been published. There would be a lot of "oh shit" and a lot of explaining to do!