Anonymous
Last month

Heal commentating Kings games?

Just noticed watching the first quarter of the Kings-Phoenix game that Heal has offered a fair bit of praise to the Kings, then remembered he is now part of that organisation.

Should he really be calling Kings games, or is there a conflict of interest there?

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Anonymous  
Last month

What? Conflict of interest based on?

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Perth fan.  
Last month

Eddie Maguire commentated on Collingwood games.
No issue.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Based on being employed by the Kings organisation
It is also a conflict of interest for the success of the broadcast for it to include a flog of a person but that is for a separate discussion

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Perthworld  
Last month

It's so unprofessional. For those who are unaware Heal is employed by TSE now as their WNBL coach, the owner of both the Sydney Kings and Flames.

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Anonymous  
Last month

He can call their games, but listeners just have to remember the Kings pay him and interpret his comments accordingly. I'd bank on needing a lot of grains of salt handy when he calls them.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It could be nothing, but just given his prior history of fraud charges etc I can't help but think it is a little shady.

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Perth fan.  
Last month

The NBL have an abundance of crap commentators .

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Anonymous  
Last month

Most commentators, especially ex players, have some sort of affiliation to a club in all sports. They are there for entertainment purposes and 'conflict of interest' isn’t a thing, a non issue here.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Affiliation is different to employment.

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anon  
Last month

"Based on being employed by the Kings organisation
It is also a conflict of interest for the success of the broadcast for it to include a flog of a person but that is for a separate discussion"

It really should come under the "Bringing the NBL into disrepute" category.

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Anonymous  
Last month

As mentioned previously, McGuire was 'employed' as president of Collingwood and commentated their games many times. Non issue.
I would say Heal’s conflict of interest to Kings is no greater than Redhage or Martins affiliation to Wildcats and they both commentate Cats games, albeit sideline commentators.
It is just commentating after all, it’s not like they are refereeing or doing video reviews.

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Anonymous  
Last month

1. It was an issue for most AFL fans when Eddie did it
2. Another sport doing something stupid is not a reason for the NBL to do it

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Anonymous  
Last month

Shane Heal. Why do people care

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Isaac  
Last month

Can't see a huge issue. It's just commentary and a commercial decision by the broadcast partner or league

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Anonymous  
Last month

He loves talking up his players as well, the way he described Weeks the other night was hilarious and Weeks proved it on the court.

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KET  
Last month

Don't have an issue with Heal/Gaze commentating any games whether it be Sydney or Melbourne

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Perth fan.  
Last month

No issue here.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So Heal can't comment on any team he has been involved with? Lunacy.

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Anonymous  
Last month

That isn't what OP said.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Contracted til nbl seasons end.
No big deal.

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Anonymous  
Last month

There was some commentary earlier in the year in AFL by Luke Darcy of a Western Bulldogs game. Darcy is a former Bulldogs player but also a current board member of the club.

Melbourne United owner Craig Hutchison said:

"Footy Classified host, Craig Hutchison also admitted that he found Darcy's call "jarring" and understood the frustrations of viewers - particularly those who support West Coast.

"I have a liberal view it adds to the pageantry of the game if your team's not involved," he said.

“If you were barracking for West Coast yesterday it was a little jarring. But if you were a neutral it was interesting to watch Luke try and (control his emotions).”

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Anonymous  
Last month

Thats where you are wrong.

Heals fav team is $$$$

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Anonymous  
Last month

Heal is just a rubbish commentator no matter which team he is calling.

To be able to
To be able to
To be able to
To be able to

And so on and so on.

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Cram  
Last month

I don't like Heal, but its not like he's reffing the games. Its completely up to the broadcast team to decide if they are ok with some bias etc. And with some fo the guys they have in the booth, its clear they're fine with anything.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Homicide is clearly the worst.

Anyone watch last night cheering for Oliver?
Yelling every play?

Heal has his bias and is still wayyyyyy ahead of homicide.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Thats where you are wrong.

Heals fav team is $$$$"

Yes that's what we're saying, he's an employee of Paul Smith these days so it's in his best interests to say complimentary things about the Kings

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Anyone watch last night cheering for Oliver?
Yelling every play?"

Yeah he even said down the stretch that he wanted Cairns to win

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Anonymous  
Last month

My favourite Heal commentary moment was when Jerai Grant was an import for Sydney, son of Harvey, who was well known as a decent NBA player and identical twin of Horace Grant.
The other commentator was providing a backs story
Heal was perplexed , 'Horace Grant has a twin?!?!'
Made some comment about how awkward would be when your twin was an nba all time great and the other was a nobody. Then had to be filled in that Harvey Grant was a decent NBA player himself.
‘Never heard of him’
Other commentator made a comment a long the lines of
‘Great to see you’re taking this job seriously and doing your research’

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Perthworld  
Last month

Who was the other commentator? I can't remember who but that moment really defined Heal's lack of professionalism.

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Perth fan.  
Last month

I think I know who #038 is.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It's really no different then listening to the NBA home team broadcasts. Plus he’s been talking up his clients and mates since he got behind the mic, and this just in, Harry Froling still hasn’t made the NBA.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Except Heal isn't employed as a Kings commentators. He's employed by the league.

At the end of the day, his obvious bias is annoying and unprofessional but there is no conflict of interest because there is no benefit for him to be gained by talking certain players up or down.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Have local commentary teams in each stadium, Matt mcquade is a good caller and never gets a shot. Perth commentators call Perth, Brisbane call Brisbane and so on, simple and on site, no travel costs.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

I don't have any particular dislike for Heal, he clearly has his favourites, his biases and his dislikes.

One of my favourites is saying in 2018/19 that Wildcats won't win the Championship without a third import and Terrico White won't have an impact in the GF as he did in the SF against Brisbane.

As long as you know that, you can accept his commentary. He does have good basketball knowledge and a higher IQ for the game.

In fact I've never had an issue with Brad Rosen, or James Harvey either....I don't mind the connection to the Kings.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Except Heal isn't employed as a Kings commentators. He's employed by the league.


I think people are missing this. Now being employed by the Kings too doesn't mean much but it's funny how we overlook the fact all of the commentators work for NBL Media and are thus employed by the NBL.

People complain about Homicide hyping up this guy or that guy but that's his job he's a glorified hype man, they're all employed by the NBL to talk up the NBL that's why you have guys like Liam Santamaria describing Tom Vodanovich as a 'great' replacement for Xavier Cooks when the guy is averaging like 3 and 2. On no planet is that a great replacement for a Boomer.

Gaze and Heal sit they're hyping up a chucker like Jason Cadee every game it's sickening how much love he gets despite how crap he is but they're looking after their mates kid a bit like Heal with the Froling's.

They're all paid to talk NBL guys up at all times who cares if Heal is now also a Kings employee?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Looking after their mates kid who probably made it ahead of more deserving kids that did not know anyone. Such is life.

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Isaac  
Last month

Yet Cadee us in the league year after year. Must have his merits.

Said it before, but I like Heal as a commentator. Really don't care who he works for or favours. Gaze as a commentator feels like family as an NBL fan - good balance of knowledge and enthusiasm. Homicide I would selectively mute if I could. Almost barely watch games these days because of the risk of coming across his commentary.

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koberulz  
Last month

Homicide hasn't been around nearly as much this year.

Santamaria is excellent, but not for the casual fan.
Gaze has the knowledge to go with Santamaria, but can also slip towards the Homicide end of the spectrum at times.
Hooley is also knowledgeable and works well with either of the above.
Heal understands the game, but doesn't put in the effort. There was a review for act of shooting the other night, and Heal thought it was a review for out of bounds and was outraged when the Hawks got a baseline inbound because they'd clearly touched it last.
Homicide is trash.


Two of Gaze, Hooley and Santamaria should call every game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Koberulz, oh so true, any of those three. Keep Luke away from the call as well, that Jack bloke is best.

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koberulz  
Last month

Luke is nonetheless better than any of the alternatives, and one assumes Heverin can't do every game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I actually agree with KR!

Homicide is fkin trash and makes the league look like a circus

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Anonymous  
Last month

Heverin is decent but a bit bland. I do miss a little bit of Dwayne Russell mixed in for some excitement.

I'd rather have Homicide on a call than Heal. Heal feels very obnoxious.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Heal pumping up the Kings incessantly again in the Hawks v Kings pre game

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Anonymous  
Last month

Excellent. Thanks for letting us know!

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