Anonymous
Two months ago

Breakers roster 20-21

Word is Delaney stays, Tai Webster resigns and Corey Webster will move elsewhere, likely to another NBL club. Roster would look as follow:

Peyton Siva / Will McDowell-White
Tai Webster / Hugo Besson
Tom Abercrombie / Hugo Besson / Rasmus Bach
Finn Delaney / Ousmane Dieng / Kyrin Galloway
Yanni Wetzel / Rob Loe / Sam Timmons

With an extra import up their sleeve to strengthen the roster as needed as the season moves on. Besson being 6'6 should provide for some nice flexibility playing three guards, with WMW also being able/big enough to defend most backup NBL 3s. Dieng will likely see some minutes at the 3 as well. Abercrombie can slide to the 4. Quite a bit of lineup flexibility there.

Can this mean make finals?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Randolph?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

They've got 2 import slots if Beeson is a next star?

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

Delany is under contract for next season and C. Webster still has another 2 years left on his contract. If Corey were to move on I can't see the Breakers letting him play for another NBL team.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Dieng is a ns

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Besson is 6'2-6’3

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

If Randolph has gone it makes sense. Too many if he's stayin.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

6'0 P.Siva(i)/6’5 W.Mcdowell-White
6’2 C.Webster/6’3 H.Besson(i)/6’4 R.Bach
6’6 T.Abercrombie/6’9 O.Dieng(ns)/6’7 I.Davidson(dp)
6’7 F.Delany/6’8 K.Galloway
6’10 Y.Wetzell/6’11 R.Loe/6’11 S.Timmins(dp)


6’6 g/f Levi Randolph the only unknown.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Besson has grown and is now 6'5 barefoot. That's obvious on film and it's been reported in France several times, including by the person who reported his signing in the NBL.

Webster has no role on this team and is too expensive to keep just to be an unhappy practice player. He'll move on with the Breakers blessing.

Breakers have a club option on Randolph

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Besson was courted by Euroleague teams and looks big. It sounds like he's coming down under to play a more freely and get better exposure to the NBA.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Besson does look taller but every lists him at 191cm 6'3, even the team he was on.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Only the French article has him 6'5.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

So no Tai Webster, jjs maybe, cairns sg, brissy, sem

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Tai stays, Corey leaves

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Bessons is playing div 2 France, long way to go. Some of you punters have to wait till you see him play before he's even playing in front of Bach.

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Perth fan.  
Two months ago

What's with the Webster's? A rift?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Three Euroleague teams wanted 20-year old Hugo Besson in Baskonia, ASVEL, Monaco... But he can't play in front of Danish league backup Rasmus Bach. Makes perfect sense.

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PyroCross  
Two months ago

So we're going with just one import to start the year? Interesting. Well, given we seem to sack our imports who start the year with the Breakers, at least that's an improvement.

The bench concerns me - I like Loe and was surprised by Bach surprised me, but I can't see how WMW fits in with this team and then you have 3 young guys who we don't know if they're rotation ready to start the season.

Intrigued to see how Tai Webster re-signs if Corey is going to be released (especially since Melbourne United need a backup scorer...)

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Siva
Besson
Dieng ns
Randolph


But 1 import...

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

looks like the breakers owners don't care about locals, could have up to 5 imports

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Maybe the Websters realize they both play the same position as score-first shooting guards and understand they are better off splitting up if they want to maximize their scoring opportunities.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Bach did well, Bessons last season in div two was excellent, his previous seasons in div one wasn't. Some players have a media machine behind them telling us how good they are, most euro league sides would get him if they really wanted him, money alone, all I’m saying let’s see what pans out before every one gets to excited. Adel to hawks start last season was wiz bang and that worked out well.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Siva definitely showed he can play off the ball last year alongside Jayson Granger and Maodo Lo, two gun PGs, so playing alongside some other good guards shouldn't be a problem considering he shot 40% for 3 in four of his five seasons with Alba .

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PyroCross  
Two months ago

Note that my prior statement is based on the OP's indication that Levi Randolph won't return. Yes, Besson/Dieng are overseas players, but I'd be surprised if we're expecting either to produce like the imports that have signed this offseason.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

What type of import would you target to complete the roster? A wing like Randolph? A 3/4 like Tate (who might block Dieng)? Another true big? Some kind of shooting 4/5?Curious to see how they approach this final signing.

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Mystro  
Two months ago

Siva looks awesome with great pedigree assuming he's signed.
Besson looks like a kid with massive upside.
Not sure how it’s all going to fit together with WMW and both Webster brothers and Bach all guards.
Mind you Shamir probably won’t play everyone anyway.

No official announcements yet so I guess it’s a case of wait and see.

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Mystro  
Two months ago

Last 2x seasons NZ have had players dropping like flies, maybe Shamir wants as much cover as possible

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

is loe a 100% of staying

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Jokes aside, there must be some respect for Shamir among playing circles. WMW returning, Wetzell poached, now Siva, Dieng and Besson (do not underestimate his time in Pro B, he was weighing up the Breakers or Baskonia so he can play).

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

New Zealand Breakers - D.Shamir
6'0 P.Siva(i)/6’5 H.Besson(i)/6’5 W.Mcdowell-White
6’6 L.Randolph(i)/6’2 C.Webster/6’4 R.Bach
6’6 T.Abercrombie/6’9 O.Dieng(ns)/6’7 I.Davidson(dp)
6’7 F.Delany/6’8 K.Galloway
6’10 Y.Wetzell/6’11 R.Loe/6’11 S.Timmins(dp)

1 Siva 1-2
2 Besson 1-2
3 Mcdowell-white 1
4 Webster 2
5 Bach 2
6 Randolph 2-3
7 Abercrombie 3
*Davidson 3 dp
*Dieng 3-4 ns
8 Delany 4-3
9 Galloway 4-5
10 Wetzell 5-4
11 Loe 5-4
*Timmins 5 dp

11 contracted
*Not contracted according to rules


Would be a very deep roster and players fighting for minutes.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

If Delany has gone to europe or Webster's gone. 1 of those makes sense to the roster.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

With Delany gone...

New Zealand Breakers - D.Shamir
6'0 P.Siva(i)/6'5 W.Mcdowell-White
6’2 C.Webster/6’5 H.Besson(I)/6’4 R.Bach
6’6 L.Randolph(i)/6’6 T.Abercrombie/6’7 I.Davidson(dp)
6’9 O.Dieng(ns)/6’8 K.Galloway
6’10 Y.Wetzell/6’11 R.Loe/6’11 S.Timmins(dp)

Could start Randolph at 2, Abercrombie 3, Webster off bench.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Besson isn't a next star to clarify.
He's just really young and is an import. He can make the draft when he nominates 3 year deal expected

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Dieng is there next star

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

French and Euro media reporting him as a Next Star. I think Santamaria said the same.

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JB  
Two months ago

Maybe the NBL will change the rule and say you can have 2 next stars now. Or even say there was never a rule limiting to 1 NS in the first place - just that no team had more than 1 until now...

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

If Webster goes and Delaney stays, the moves make sense and the roster is stacked. If Delaney goes but Corey Webster stays, it still feels imbalanced.

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Webster is staying. Two year deal.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Sorry, I should have been more clear: If Corey Webster goes...

Interesting that Tai Webster talks up how good WMW is and his childhood friendship with Yanni Wetzell.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

(and before someone comments, I know Corey is under contract, but with the roster shaping up like this I imagine they're shopping him somewhere else)

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Once again Kobe, you're wrong. Breakers have signed TAI Webster for two years. It's ok mate you will be correct one day and we will never hear the end of it - oh wait...

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Mystro  
Two months ago

Loe is under contract (signed for 3 years in 2020) but is rehabbing his knee after surgery.
Timmons expected to cover until he's right.

Breakers practices will be hard fought battles for court time and I expect with these horses NZ will get out and run at every opportunity.

The French kids are the unknown.
They will have expectations of playing minutes and development.
How will they go in such a physical league with a Coach who has no problem running a short rotation.
They also come into a team with a lot of very experienced professional and international players in Abercrombie, Loe & Corey Webster who will be able to help them on and off the court.

All this is assuming the rumoured signings are true....


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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Given that the Besson signing including comments from himself is all over European Media and I think that is locked in.

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Mystro  
Two months ago

Now fingers crossed for Peyton Siva to be announced.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I would want Corey's help on or especially off court.

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Mystro  
Two months ago

Corey over his career has been a walking bucket.
He kept the Breakers in the game against the Phoenix Suns and has done the same for the Tall Blacks over the years at every major tournament they have been in.
Yes he absolutely has had his fair share of issues off the court over the years and to his credit took it all on the chin and dealt with it and moved on.
At least when he speaks he is coming from a place of experience.

Abercrombie and Loe are absolute professionals on and off the court and Abercrombie especially is a highly respected player.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Alba Berlin announced he was on the way to nz.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Strange how offended people seem to be at the Breakers adding too much talent in the backcourt, especially after the past two years where they suffered through so many injuries and had so many issues offensively due to a lack of creators in the backcourt. It's a long season and having quality depth is important in this league which has a lot of games in a very short amount of time, especially for a team that is asked to travel longer distances than anyone in the league besides Perth.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Who's going to be the desperate one creating a new post for Tai's re-signing

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Mystro  
Two months ago

If Besson is indeed a second "Next Star do NZ retain Levi Randolph for continuity or go a little larger and bring in a 3/4 or keep an Import up their sleeve in case of injury? If he's an import NZ have 11 rostered players and their squad is complete.

Siva (I) / WMW / Besson (NS/I)
T.Web / C.Web / Bach
Abercrombie / Dieng (NS) / Davidson (DP)
Delaney / Galloway
Wetzell / Loe / Timmons (DP)

At 6.5" Shamir may even elect to play WMW at SF behind Abercrombie.

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RobT  
Two months ago

At 6.5" Shamir may even elect to play WMW at SF behind Abercrombie.

Is that 6.5 inches (6.5") or 6 ft 5 inches (6'5")?

Anyway, what has Shamir's height have to with where WMW plays?
[Just having fun, Mystro]

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

No need for Randolph. Need someone who can play at the 4. Abercrombie is serviceable at the 4, but not strong enough against some. With the way this roster is going, may as well sign Cam Oliver.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Randolph signed anywhere?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Breakers have a team option on Randolph. He is a 2/3 though

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Mystro  
Two months ago

NZ have a team option for this season on Levi Randolph anon

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Mystro  
Two months ago

An Import 3/4 (6'6" - 6’9) would round out this roster nicely

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Luis Scola. Come on Matt Walsh. Make it happen.

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Perth fan.  
Two months ago

"Who's going to be the desperate one creating a new post for Tai's re-signing"

A post now exists for this haha.

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koberulz  
Two months ago

The Breakers do not have a team option on Randolph. The deadline for options has passed. They may have taken it up and not announced it yet, if his name isn't on the FA list, but otherwise he's a free agent same as anyone else.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Randolphs club option expires on the 15th. Delaney's Euroleague buyout expires the same day.

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Perth fan.  
Two months ago

Assuming Corey leaves will he go to Europe or another NBL cub?

Good news about Tai staying for 2 years

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koberulz  
Two months ago

How can you have an option that expires later than free agency? That makes no sense.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

There's no rule in the NBL about options expiring before free agency. You can sign a player for any duration of time a team desires. One week, one month, one year, etc.

Corey Webster heading to another NBL team. Maybe Brisbane but others involved too

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Mystro  
Two months ago

Corey was one of the reasons Tai chose to re-sign with the Breakers so not sure why he would talk his Brother out of heading back to Europe if he was bailing himself.

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PyroCross  
Two months ago

Hmm, a roster without Corey makes a bit more sense, particularly as Bach fills the bench role better.

The Breakers will have 2 DPs, 8 locals, 2 NS and an import (Peyton Siva). I suspect the Breakers can sign a 12th player with the flexibility to wait. Though another import (a combo forward with experience, strength and defensive ability) to offset what I consider a vulnerable bench, that move would hamper court-time for both Besson and Dieng.

At this stage, I'd rather the Breakers go for a local 4 on a short-term contract (Tohi Smith-Milner) or another local DP (Zach Riley has stunned everyone at NZNBL level as a high school student). Any difference in money is best spent on medical specialists who can prevent the annual injury crisis. Give Shamir time to view his rotation and make changes (if needed) after 4-6 weeks (the usual Breakers time for releasing an import).

Wetzell (25) / Loe (20) / Timmins (DP)
Delany (30) / Galloway (5) / Smith-Milner (Spot)
Abercrombie (23) / Dieng^ (10) / Bach (10) / Davidson (DP)
T.Webster (27) / Besson^ (10)
Siva* (30) / WMW (10)




6'0 P.Siva(i)/6'5 W.Mcdowell-White
6'2 C.Webster/6’5 H.Besson(I)/6’4 R.Bach
6’6 L.Randolph(i)/6’6 T.Abercrombie/6’7 I.Davidson(dp)
6’9 O.Dieng(ns)/6’8 K.Galloway
6’10 Y.Wetzell/6’11 R.Loe/6’11 S.Timmins(dp)

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PyroCross  
Two months ago

Whoops - left the second depth chart in - thought there was an edit button!

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Perth fan.  
Two months ago

How many next stars can each team have?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Let's face it, there are no Next Stars rules. It’s been assumed teams could have one, but that is clearly not a rule. Dieng and Besson are also arguably already pros.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Pyrocross, no way WMW signed to play 10mpg. I expect Dieng to get 12-20 too.

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Mystro  
Two months ago

With 2x next stars NZ probably don't need to make any roster decisions until they have played a few games and can keep 2x Import spots open in case of injury.

Yes there is only 1x ball but with Siva & WMW running the point & the Websters playing SG there should be a lot less iso ball and a ton more ball movement.

The team looks pretty stacked. I look forward to seeing how it all plays out

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Mystro  
Two months ago

Santa's saying Breakers are happy for Corey to explore his options and Illawarra and Brisbane are potential landing spots for him.
Team balance looks better if that’s the case with who’s signed and who’s rumoured to be coming.

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Knowall  
Two months ago

Yet again has stated he and bro got some unfinished business

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Knowall  
Two months ago

Yet again has stated he and bro got some unfinished business

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Knowall  
Two months ago

*Tai has stated

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Corey Webster will play for Brisbane next season on a two year deal.

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Mystro  
Two months ago

NZ have passed on Levi Randolph's team option so he’s now a free agent. Above decent import so will probably already have clubs knocking at his door.

Hopson would be a good fit on this team if available.

Hopefully Delaney is sticking around as there has been nothing on him heading to Europe and the buyout deadline on his contract was apparently the 15th and no word on Corey Webster going to another team yet.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Complete.

New Zealand Breakers - D.Shamir
6'0 P.Siva(i)/6’5 W.Mcdowell-White
6’4 T.Webster/6’5 H.Besson(i)/6’4 R.Bach
6’6 T.Abercrombie/6’9 O.Dieng(ns)/6’7 I.Davidson(dp)
6’7 F.Delany/6’8 K.Galloway
6’10 Y.Wetzell/6’11 R.Loe/6’11 S.Timmins(dp)

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Source?

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