Mystro
Last month

Breakers & Tai Webster part ways

NZ Breakers have mutually agreed to release Tai Webster from his contract.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Any Intel there Mystro?

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Mystro  
Last month

Nah sorry, Breakers just posted that on their social media and then the same from the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wow the NBL article states it's because he’s choosing to remain unvaccinated & it’s looking likely that NZ will have to start the season in Australia.

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Zodiac  
Last month

I suspected this might happen after they did the dirty on Corey. In Tai's re-signing announcement he specifically mentioned how much he was looking forward to playing with his brother in future.

At the same time NZB must've realised this was a possibility of happening after knifing Corey. I'm not sure losing both Webster brothers was worth it just to get out from the last 2 years of Corey's contract but hey it's Matt Walsh we're talking about here.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Curious to see fan reaction and is it reads as his refusal to get vaccinated is the motivation, not to play elsewhere with his brother.

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Herbert Cadbury  
Last month

Here's the member's email I just received:

Sky Sport Breakers Release Tai Webster by Mutual Consent

The team at the Breakers have agreed to release star guard Tai Webster.

Webster, the breakout star from last season, signed a new two-year contract with the Breakers in July but since then it has become increasingly likely the team will again start the season in Australia due to the Delta outbreak.

The Victorian State Government unveiled its Roadmap out of Covid lockdown yesterday where activities and freedoms will only be available to fully vaccinated people.

Premier Daniel Andrews has ruled out interstate travel occurring at 70 percent vaccination which modelling suggests they will reach on October 26.

It is not until vaccination levels reach 80 percent that interstate travel will be considered and it still will be subject to other state's rules.

The new NBL season is scheduled to start on November 18.

Breakers owner Matt Walsh says he respects Tai Webster’s decision to remain unvaccinated.

"Tai was amazing for us last year and we wish him the absolute best. I fully support each player’s freedom of choice in regards to the vaccine".

“The club will keep the door open for Tai, but unfortunately we are living in extraordinary times and without being vaccinated he will not have freedom of travel which would allow him to play for us this season.”

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Mystro  
Last month

Breakers will be looking to replace him with an Import ASAP I expect

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Anonymous  
Last month

Corey Webster is on the record as being anti-vax. It's likely that his brother is the same. I suspect, however, this was a convenient way for Walsh to axe Tai. Remember, the Breakers still haven't officially announced Besson and Walsh had indicated last week there was one player left. If anything, I think this actually improves the Breakers balance.

Siva / WMW
Besson / Bach
Abercrombie / Dieng
Delany / Galloway
Wetzell / Low

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Anonymous  
Last month

The reality will be neither will play professionally moving forward as just about all countries are requiring vaccination passports.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Regardless of what your personal belief is around Vaccines over time I think the unvaccinated will have more restrictions and limitations placed on them - in sport this will be even more pronounced.

Eventually I would imagine people will take a vaccine not be choice but more by the fact it puts too much inconvenience on you. In Australia most Airlines will likely require vaccinated status for international travel - so if your role requires regular travel , attending professional events etc.. not having a jab will make it difficult for you or force you to get multiple covid-tests to do something.

Im sure Doctor Facebook that these guys use for their medical research will not approved - but thats how the future is looking to be.

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Lawndale  
Last month

What a moron

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Mystro  
Last month

Corey's body is a temple but he smoked synthetic cannabis lol

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Anonymous  
Last month

His decision, that is fine, but like a lot of things in society rules are in place to protect the majority, from speeding to a million other rules. Good luck to him , not certain where he goes from here though as most countries want people vaccinated.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I must say I'm disappointed how many NBL figures are anti vax and anti lockdown it's disheartening to see

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Anonymous  
Last month

Very disheartening.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Disheartening to see players are anti lockdown? Let me guess you don't live in VIC.

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AngusH  
Last month

How many players are vocally anti-vax? I can think of just one that I know for sure (Tai) and another that probably is also although I don't think I've seen any confirmation (Corey). I imagine we'll find out soon enough...

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Disheartening to see players are anti lockdown? Let me guess you don't live in VIC."

Ahh I see you take the bogut stance

At least the Victorian government is actually trying

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Disheartening to see players are anti lockdown? Let me guess you don't live in VIC.


Could that poster have simply meant that it is disheartening to see the NBL lose one of its best players?

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LV  
Last month

Most vaccine hesitant NBL players will, much like most vaccine hesitant members of the general public, get vaccinated because of the immediate consequences of resisting.

Webster must feel very strongly about it. I enjoyed watching him play last season, sad to see him go.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Blessing in disguise for the Breakers? They now won't need to concern themselves with figuring out how to best incorporate such a ball-dominant guard in their system. With Sosa on board, his departure is no biggy anyway.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Sosa?

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Anonymous  
Last month

What a bad situation for the players.

NBL are kidding themselves. Unless the politics are involved. My personal view is that no leagues should put any restriction on non-vaccinated players. It's the players choice. If most players are vaccinated there shouldn’t be a problem for the non-vaccinated.

Will lose more players then just Tai Webster. I lost respect of this league. Well done Larry and Jeremy whoever are involved!

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Giacontigers  
Last month

@LoveBroker, Édgar Sosa has signed in Egypt with Zamalek. Doubt he will sign back with the Breakers.

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AngusH  
Last month

The league isn't mandating anything. They even setup replacement players to fill in for guys who don't want to get vaxed. It's the state and nations in the league that will make it impossible for a player to not get vaccinated and still hope to play in the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Last month

#603
Maybe you should read up on what the nbl has stated before just talking crap. It's not the nbl rules you fool.

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Anonymous  
Last month

He's not going to find a league that will ok his stance, that pays well.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Will lose more players then just Tai Webster. I lost respect of this league. Well done Larry and Jeremy whoever are involved!


Do you honestly believe this is a LK / JL directive?

The NBL has had to work within the federal and state frameworks for the last 2 covid impacted seasons.

Did you think it was LK that wanted Game 2 of the 19/20 Grand Finals to be played to an empty stadium hours before the sold out event was due to start?

I don't even know what the law is right now.

Is it law that a New Zealander must be single / double vaccinated in order to enter Australia / re-enter New Zealand today? Or will this be an inevitable directive in the future?

Does this mean that Tai will only ever play NZNBL and never even any Olympic / WC tournaments?



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JB  
Last month

If Tai Webster got released because he refuses to get vaccinated, then he's an idiot. But at least he’s an idiot who puts his money where his mouth is, I suppose.
After the millions of deaths and hospitalisations worldwide, the lengthy lockdowns everywhere, and more generally the world struggles with covid, it’s really sad to see so many people refusing the jab because "conspiracy“...

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Anonymous  
Last month

#603 dumbest post ever. If WA won't allow unvaccinated people entry how is that the NBL’s fault? You sir are an idiot and the league is happy to lose you.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So clearly they are forcing this on people and I bet something happens as a result of this. The vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting it or transmitting it correct ? Then each person should have the choice of what he or she puts in they body. All this pro and anti BullllllShiiii it’s pro choice or shall we make women have abortions for those men who don’t want kids. Shall we make fat people loose weight as that’s one of the number one things killing people as well. So many people here are brainwashed and live in fear you all gone die eventually act accordingly.

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Mystro  
Last month

Matt Walsh fronted the media on the 6pm sports news here in NZ and said it straight, in this day and age unfortunately as a professional athlete that is required to cross international and state borders for your job you will be required by the authorities that control these territories to be vaccinated.
He said he has no animosity to Tai and his beliefs but as he will be unable to travel without a vaccine passport he will be unable to play for the club moving forward.

At least NZ have an import spot up their sleeve and being as Tai wasn't being paid peanuts hopefully they can find a stud replacement.

Not sure where too now for Tai as many previous posters have said most if not all decent paying leagues will require vaccinations to play and travel.

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Anonymous  
Last month

#627, on my, where do start. You sir are an idiot.

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koberulz  
Last month

Did you think it was LK that wanted Game 2 of the 19/20 Grand Finals to be played to an empty stadium hours before the sold out event was due to start?
As I recall, the government didn't act until after that happened, perhaps even by a number of days. So it would've been LK's call, yes.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Breakers are better without the Webster's. Shamir’s system relies on sharing the ball and working as a team. You can have ball dominant creators - this is probably what they were looking at with Patterson - but both Webster’s were shoot first, second and third. It will be interesting if they get an import now or wait.

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KET  
Last month

" My personal view is that no leagues should put any restriction on non-vaccinated players."

NBL have said they won't require mandatory vaccination.

What state govs do is what state govs do.

For NZ - they’re a business - why would they want to pay a player to not play lots of games?

For any business generally - why do they have to take on financial and health/safety risk of their employees decisions?

People can decide what they want to do, but that doesn’t mean decisions don’t have consequences, they always do.

If you don’t want to be vaccinated- fine - but don’t sook if it affects who will employ you.

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Giacontigers  
Last month

Tai has lost his job because of his decision. I wonder how his brother Corey will get to Egypt. I'm sure you’ll need to be fully vaccinated to go overseas.

Webster brothers need to man up. New Zealand will be better without them. I watched a few Breakers games at the NBL Cup. The Webster’s are ball hogs and keep getting in foul trouble. Shamir will be able to coach his team which will be good.

Watch out for the Breakers guys.

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A Aron  
Last month

Many countries around the world are requiring proof of negative test as entry requirement, because there are so many different Vaccines out there and each country has different types of vaccines being administered in their own country. There's actually around 20 Vaccines which have been approved in different countries around the world.

Both Brothers will get a contract somewhere I think, the main hurdle for NZ and Webster just now is that he won't even be allowed in Australia for the start of the season because of our border rules, which are actually one of the narrowest and strictest in the world.

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D2.0  
Last month

"NBL are kidding themselves. Unless the politics are involved. My personal view is that no leagues should put any restriction on non-vaccinated players. It's the players choice. If most players are vaccinated there shouldn't be a problem for the non-vaccinated."

Thanks for restoring my faith in the stupidity of anons

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Anoninice  
Last month

Should be able to just play home games in NZ...or if bubble returns they be able to travel... 2 most action a minute players. So be sad to lose their talent.. both are borderline super stars who produce excitement.. nothing wrong with shoot first. Mentality. Stop me .. because I backing me. .. attack sick of defensive first mentality that stufflrs offence. In fact find offensive to consider defence is key to success. Team scores most points always wins and you can quote me ...

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Giacontigers  
Last month

Bullets 2007 team won because of their high offence.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Not sure where too now for Tai as many previous posters have said most if not all decent paying leagues will require vaccinations to play and travel."

There are a number of countries where rich owners can persuade officials for the right price, think Middle East in particular. Some big money in those leagues for good players.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Corey Webster has tweeted:

"Lol. Good excuse. The Truth will come out eventually."

https://twitter.com/cwebster9/status/1439833259102416899

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Anonymous  
Last month

Someone else put this list together . Imagine if these vaccines had never been made available:
1796 smallpox.
1885 rabies.
1890 tetanus.
1896 typhoid fever.
1906 TB.
1923 diphtheria.
1926 whooping cough.
1932 yellow fever.
1937 flu.
1952 polio.
1963 measles.
1967 mumps.
1969 rubella.
1974 chickenpox
2012 B Meningococcal

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4 real  
Last month

Oh wow, another day, another Webster breaking contract (though checking Corey's stats, he’s the GOAT in this department). Honestly, NZB better off without these toxic twins (yes anons, I know they’re not literally twins). Disappointed on the amount of cheeseburgers away crowds are going to miss out on.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Exactly, no cheese burgers. Breakers better without the Webster's.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Chur

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Anonymous  
Last month

Both brothers have terrible attitudes, glad they are gone.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Deshon Taylor & Dan Moldovan I'm heard are in talks with Breakers. Similar player but Taylor makes his free throws lol also better defender to take pressure off of Siva having to guard the opposing teams best player every night, NZ hoop fans loved his play in NZNBL. Not new to the league or country so that’s a positive, Would be a nice pairing with Siva. This team needs defense at the guard position of if they want to win games

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ME  
Last month

It's interesting that the saying "my body, my choice" flies out the window as soon as it comes to vaccines. If the vaccine worked someone not being vaccinated wouldn't post a threat to someone who is.

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KET  
Last month

" If the vaccine worked someone not being vaccinated wouldn't post a threat to someone who is."

That statement is wrong - you don't really know how vaccines work do you?

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AngusH  
Last month

Lots of people who don't understand how vaccines work unfortunately. The information is out there if they want to read it, but I guess the social media experts are considered a more trustworthy source than the SMEs.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Travis Trice parting ways with Hawks too. Oh my.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Lots of people who don't understand how vaccines work unfortunately."


In Australia, the communication from governments around COVID and the COVID vaccines has been very poor.

There hasn't been much genuine attempt to explain the risk factors of COVID to various demographics, the difference in benefits of vaccinations to different age groups, the difference in risks from the vaccines to different demographics, or the fact these are different in application and outcome from most other vaccines.

It's been like a PR campaign rather than education. In this day and age, people can access information from virologists, immunologists and other specialists, and when that contradicts what they're being told - or makes it clear govt isn't providing full information - then it creates distrust, and rightly so.

The fact the TGA had to receive an FoI to release the biodistribution data from Pfizer is an indictment on an organisation that is meant to protect.

It's a shame we can't go back to day 1 and start again, but you can only hope lessons have been learned for the next pandemic. Unfortunately, as it stands, the ignorance around this topic in Australia has made genuine public discussion of the nuance almost impossible.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Admin can we ban any talk or views about vaccines on the forum? It's not helpful to anyone whichever view you hold

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ᱬᱠᱵᱬᱠᱰ  
Last month

Guessing from the response to this thread there's not
much idea of how the player's departure might impact
the team. It was said he is a "shoot 1st shoot 2nd
shoot 3rd" player so will the team require other
players to look for shots more often in order to
fill the remaining void in the offense. If not
curious about how those who might be more informed
about the team would expect the team to evolve after
this roster change.

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ᱬᱠᱵᱬᱠᱰ  
Last month

Doublepost, anyway stats about Tai Webster show
turnover rate increasing over the past 3 seasons,
(2.5 turnovers per game in 18-19, to 3.1 in 19-20, &
3.4 in '21.) That's a statistic sign the team offense
have to do more to improve the player ballhandling
skills. Also in '21 stats like "17.2 ppg" & "4.9
assist per game" reveal the player being a primary
ballhandler & scorer for the team offensively. The
combination of those stats mean there probably wasn't
alot of other players in the offense looking for the
ball that often. I have no real prior knowledge about
this team, just evaluating based on stats.

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Mystro  
Last month

He was playing PG but also shouldering the scoring load for parts of the season with Patterson unfit and Corey Webster out with his injured hand.
The plan was for him to move to SG this season to lighten his load and to allow him to be more of a scorer with Siva running the offence until it became apparent he wasn't going to be able to travel without a vaccine.
Talk is NZ is trying to replace him with Hopson.

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