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Big Joe on the Hawks bench now. What an NBL journeyman.

We are terrible! Embarrassing club all round

Some of the worst transition D I have ever seen.

Garbage from Adelaide. No defence, no offence, can't hit a pass. Amateur stuff. Hopefully just because they are still gelling together but looks bad. Heads down, sloppy and lazy

17 turnovers to 2

This is pretty bad for a home game.

Defence is bad.

Offence disjointed.

CJ getting outcoached.

Remember a few saying XRM was a crap signing. He has been good, makes tough shots, and another scoring ball handler, shot creator with good size (6'4) and looks like is an okay team defender.

Have been impressed with Blitz and Current performance. Would welcome him at the taipans next year! hahaha

Yeah. XRM looks a perfect fit steadying that second unit. Lots of weapons in this Hawks team.

Macca dropping his head way to often. Not a good look.

Not home to watch it, assume it's bad? Hannahs no better than Friday night?
Not unexpected though, Hawks have best coach, most talented lineup and more continuity form last season.
Probably need Hannahs replaced for a legit scorer that is taller, and we may need a third import too. Who would’ve thought it???

It's fine, we'll get NBA superstar Kai Sotto in soon and we'll be fine

Pretty sure that holding foul on Jessup on the fast break at the 4:42 mark should've been an unsportsmanlike going by precedent

Our imports have been grossly outplayed by the oppositions imports in these first two games. Import selection has been this teams major issue since we made the grand final in 2018. How can this part of the Sixers recruiting continue to be so poor year after year?

Aye there you go. Right on cue with the USF

ADL finishing last this year, if they continue to have their imports play poorly. Outplayed. Outcoached.

Withers has been fine considering they run zero plays for the guy.

Bairstow also a nice addition but the rest were way bellow par.

Hawks on the other hand looking solid all round.

This is going to be a long season for the 36ers if this is the team they're going to stick with. Looks to me like Hannahs is a fantastic player when playing againgst G League defenses that are disorganized and don't really care about winning, just individually pumping stats. But against the teams we've seen here, he's essentially useless. But yeah, let's have two starting undersized guards!

And that brings me to Mitch McCarron. We didn't learn from our first foray into trying to turn combo guards into starting point guards, so we had to try it again. McCarron can get away with it when he plays for a stacked roster that helps compensate for his own shortcomings. But when he's "the guy" for Adelaide, it doesn't work. The guy can't run an offence. The "no-look" passes are cute, but pretty obvious. The " behind the back" passes are flashy. But he lacks substance as a player. He's no Josh Giddey. He doesn't have a particularly high basketball IQ.

It should shock 36er fans to know that the Kings actually wanted McCarron, but when they found out what Adelaide were offering him they went and go Jaylen Adams. I want you to mull over that. Only a team completely out of touch with the league and what players are actually worth would pay McCarron either more than Adams, or enough that Adams wouldn't have been infinitely more expensive to necessitate King's decision.

Mojave King - garbage. He's not going to the NBA. Let's stop any talk of that right now.

Todd Whithers has all the attributes of a baller but seems very limited in ability or output.

Isaac Hunphries is still finding rhythm. Johnson is being his usual, frustrating self. The only real bright spark has been Cam Bairstow.

If Adelaide want to make the finals they need to drop Hannahs and Withers. Drop one of the bench Aussies. Bring in an import point guard, shooting guard and a different small forward. This team is rubbish as is.

Hannahs the best three point shooter outside NBA just shows how deluded some are. Very ordinary and for an undersized guard, he's not gonna cut it,
Withers fine but we need three good imports to be competitive and we have got one decent, one poor and no third. Stupid move.

Do you think there are people lining up to open the 36ers?

I suppose we ought not to throw the baby out with the bath water - two good sides, some cold shooting we wouldnt expect to continue, Dech injured, Goorj teams are ultra defensive etc.

However - Adelaide really are struggling in ways that are very obvious, ways that we could foresee.

Hannahs 0-6 from three in two games is really bad. Only 6 shots from outside, he intentionally didn't take shots that he should have choosing to drive instead. We need him to actually take those shots from the outside and stretch the defence. It doesn’t help to assist the defence playing a zone, means our bigs have a hard time and more hands picking off passes going in.

Choosing not to take shots that were available is one thing- being able to create that shot is another. Just looks physically outmatched. In Australia you don’t get wide open threes like the US, there needs to be some shot creation.

When you need scores, give the ball to DJ - three quarters of the game DJ was missing. Give him the ball, and get him shooting.

King needs to relax a little, try to play a more balanced game.

Adelaide still can’t defend the rim if their life depended on it. How long until they hit the realisation? How many games in a hole will they be?

To own the 36ers***

It's not as simple as who owns the team, it is who constructs the team. They need to get JVG the hell away from NBL basketball he's a cancer. Accidentally put together ONE good team in his life (where the salary cap was completely smashed btw) and suddenly he's got a lifelong job in the league.

Did anyone notice on the first possession of the game, Humphries got away with an epic travel? I counted 10 steps, it was Kendrick Perkins-esque!

I feel like in the NBL you need an 8 player rotation, with two further players that are happy to get minutes, one that can knockdown an open three and another that's serviceable as a big.

I just don’t see Adelaide winning games if they have to give decent minutes to King, Sotto, Duffelmeier, Bairstow, Dech - assuming that’s the bench, that’s too many minutes to benchies.

It really needed to DJ/Dech/Duffelmeier as the main minutes bench, with two guys that you don’t have to give minutes to - Bairstow perhaps given what he has provided, and another guard that probably wouldn’t get any time - even Marshall.

Starting 5 - Hannahs might need to be replaced. Can’t have our imports combining for 14 points. That won’t cut it.

How crap have the 6ers imports been over the last 5-6 years?
I mean Jerome was great at the start, but hero ball and unlikely to win you a title. Childress was good but injured. Wiley was a highlight machine i guess. Crocker and Sloan awful. Griffin was as bad as defender as DJ, maybe worse.
I feel Mitch, Isaac, DJ, Dech and Bairstow is a solid local contingent.
Add two stud imports and a third who plays a role, we would be a top 4 chance.
This is just taking the pi55. Not much to get excited by for local fans honestly.

You've changed your tune quickly.

"Hannas will be home for Christmas “

He looks like he hasn't stopped eating from last Christmas. Another B grade import, who has big tickets on himself.
The standard of NBL is so much better now. You can’t afford to miss with your imports. We all know JVG is no good,
but junior is going to have to improve pretty quickly. I really struggled to see what their brand is, apart from no D.

@Perthworld, who has changed their tune?

I said in the predictions thread that Sixers were a lock to miss the playoffs and you replied with a snotty comment.

Because you're a troll sometimes

Sixers are my second team.

Really sad how Keeley appointed a used car salesman in JvG who then employs yes men coaches who have to work with imports only from Moldovan and how it's fucked the franchise.

People need to calm down. Sixers played two of the best teams in the league after spending 3 weeks on the road. Added to that Dech is a huge loss to this team. The only player in the team that can guard Cotton, Harvey, and Jessup whilst still being consistent in offense.

Once Dech is back Hannahs will come off the bench with less pressure. I am less concerned with Hannah's then I am with Withers. The guy is an extremely lazy defender, doesn't sprint back, can't keep someone in front of him, can't even be bothered to raise his hand up when a player is shooting the ball. He reminds me of Pinder who would give up 8 points for the same reasons mentioned above and then finally get a block and everyone would go "He is a really good defender". Hannahs just looked unconfident and or tired, rather than teams have worked him out. He just missed uncharacteristic shots, had poor body language and second guessed himself.

The turnovers and poor effort was most disappointing today. CJ needed to put on Gattorna earlier. Someone with Heart and effort.

Humphries should come off the bench to take the pressure off of him until he gets his form back. Can still play the same minutes.

Hopefully Dech will be back soon. Manu and possibly Sotto will help with spot minutes

Lol. Perth world you said they were a lock to miss the playoffs.
Now you may be correct but I'm old fashioned, I like to see Teams play play before writing them off.
Nice memory though. Still think you’re a wanker, just a wanker who is probably correct this time!

Came home from other commitments and looked up Hoops for the 36ers results. Read the posts on this thread and from the posts thought that 36ers must have lost between 20 - 30 points and lost most of the stats.

Looked up the results on the NBL site and see they only lost by 10 points, and won both the first and last quarters. That can be a bit deceptive with garbage time though.

Then I looked at the stats

38ers shot 2pts slightly better
Shot 3pts 5% better
Won the rebounds by 10
had 5 more assists
Fouls about even

Then the negatives - free throws at 53%
21 to 9 turnovers

Guess that was the story of the game in those two stats.

Poor foul shooting by professionals is no excuse.

Turnovers may be due a bit due to the players not having game time together.

I can understand the fans frustration though as it seems that lessons from previous seasons are not learnt, both onb and off court.

Why is it such a trait to be so negative.. only 2 games into very long season.. once IH gets more match fitness along with dech.. CJ as new and rookie coach will take some time to impact his philosophy..preseason gave enough hints the team has weapons.stability and trust in team structures. .let's remain positive and give guys another 5 or 6 games to gell. No need to panic.some of you are jumping at shadows...

" Looked up the results on the NBL site and see they only lost by 10 points, and won both the first and last quarters. That can be a bit deceptive with garbage time though."

36ers were down by 15-19pts for most of the game that counted. Fourth quarter Hawks stopped trying - the 10 point loss looks a lot better than it really was.

“ People need to calm down. Sixers played two of the best teams in the league after spending 3 weeks on the road.”

They lost to a very undermanned Perth - more so than we were, and Hawks at home. How do you propose for Adelaide to make the top 4 if they're losing those games?

Negativity is reasonable to the extent that they aren’t looking like a competitive proposition at the moment and just dropped 2 games they probably would want to win if they wanted to make finals.

Local doesn't mean better

I was personally at the game also, myself and the kids thought it was absolutely fantastic. Obviously a loss isn't ideal, but was a great event and I thought the atmosphere was phenomal (especially for a Sunday afternoon game). I suggest you should avert from demising others hard work and focus on stacking your own bread. Anyway, hope the 36ers improve, along with your stinky attitude king. Go well and always remember to keep your stick on the ice!

I think we should calm down the negativity on the club.

Its only 2 games in (this will probably bite me on the backside).

I am seeing things that are concerning, our defence is not great, but I am willing to give a bit of grace on this given our best 2 defenders are out (Dech) and not back to full fitness (IH).

The imports seem to have gone back into their shells, after a decent showing in the Blitz.

I think we should give CJ and the imports a bit more rope and let the game plan evolve.

I don't have an arbitrary figure but if the team were say 2-4 after six games, I'd want action taken.

Why are people sticking it to 4K McCarron? He was probably the best local guard available as a free agent. I would take McCarron above Delly (Delly of 21/22).Yes we have tried the Gobbo combo guard experiment but McCarron is a much betyter player overall.

I don't mind saying Bairstow is proving me wrong, he together with DJ's offence has been the highlights.

We've got a pretty tough schedule coming up too which doesn't help.

Cairns in Cairns is an automatic percentage booster win.

But then its 3 home games of PER, SEM then PER again.

Heart says we should be able to win at least 2 of those home games to be 3-3 which would barely be a pass mark for a championship aspirant.

I know we can't afford to fall from the pack early on like last year but 2 games in is too soon to be talking about sending imports home etc.

" I don't have an arbitrary figure but if the team were say 2-4 after six games, I'd want action taken."

You're not giving them rope then - going 2-2 means you’re claiming a Cairns in QLD scalp plus a Perth scalp. They’re highly unlikely to get it done against a powerhouse SEM.

2-2 would be a decent scenario for Adelaide, 1-3 more likely.

If Adelaide went 3-1 that’d be an extreme turnaround from what we have seen.

Also you've missed round 2 vs Tasmania and NZ

Which are important games Adelaide will want to square the ledger.

Glad few others are suggesting let's not get to over the top with an early lost. Enough games ahead clearly to easily move into a strong positive win lost. Cam B been very sold. Unfortunately Dech not on court but think be much different when Dech Cam IH are producing with MM.. let's take slow steps carefully before pulling the trigger on doom gloom.. still looking forward to very entertaining season..few hurdles but be highlights aplenty..hope CJ can unleash the machines in DJ and IH then be some havoc

You watch us beat the living crap out of Adelaide to have a 2-1 record after three games

This is my first game back watching the Sixers at home since Covid hit and it didn't feel like it was at the same level as has been in previous years?
- Crowd interaction seemed lacking (maybe due to crowd numbers)
- Cube could be used better.. look at nba for examples. Can we see more stats?! Also are we just playing the tv feed?
- still using same intro and promos as 2 years ago. It didn’t feel different. Kids enjoyed it but meh!
- As for the team, I know the team are getting the feel for each other, but after a great pre-season I was expecting a little more. I’m sure we’ll get better.

I don't think Cairns in Cairns will be easy at all. Be lucky to win, don’t think it will be a % booster whatsoever.

McCarron can get away with it when he plays for a stacked roster that helps compensate for his own shortcomings. But when he's "the guy" for Adelaide, it doesn't work. The guy can't run an offence.

Watching the game yesterday even though it was close in the first half you just knew with a Goorjian coached team they would get serious in the second half and they put us to the sword in the third quarter.

For the Hawks I really liked the look of Reath he looks legit. Harvey and to a lesser degree Jessup are just great to watch especially Harvey getting in all the cracks. Cleveland is extremely athletic but seems to be lacking a bit very similar type to Simon willing to play D and do the dirty work for the team. Harry still looks like crap but I guess the Hawks have to do what they can to keep Sam happy.

On the Sixers I still question the logic of breaking the bank on signing McCarron a handy player jack of all trades/master of none type who as others have including myself have always said isn't a true PG. Disappointing to know we out bid the Kings for his services and they had to 'settle' for a PG from the NBA.

Imports wise Withers looks okay and looks like he could offer more but Hannahs as the primary import doesn't appear up to it. How he played in the NBA I'll never know. A supposed lights out knockdown shooter who can't hit a shot is concerning. There doesn't appear to be much else to his game either looks a short 6'4" and too slightly built. Probably best to pull the trigger asap on him but give Withers more time.

Bairstow has been quite impressive it's novel to see someone playing for us with a bit of ticker. It might not last long before he gets enough serious injury but ride him while you can. I'd actually prefer him starting over DJ but I know that's not going to happen and CJ would've only been appointed with strict instructions not to rock the DJ boat like Henry was threatening to do.

I would like to see more time for Dufelmeier and am keen to see how Malou and Harris look especially Malou given some of the monster blocks he had in the QBL we probably haven't had a seriously intimidatory shot blocker since Willie Simmons.

Sixers have got two games this round again Tassie on Thursday and NZB on Sunday, if he's still not firing by then after the Blitz games and four regular season games you've really got to pull the trigger before the bad PR and the losses start to mount. You can already see he's struggling with confidence and forcing things.

The Sixers held onto Sloan a bit too long early last season along with messing about with in-between import Kendle by the time Brandon Paul was signed it was going to be too late anyway.

Also you've missed round 2 vs Tasmania and NZ

Team and crowd only moderate. Management not friendly to fans getting it back.

Damm tough first half a dozen games... tassy is a given win..cairns and breakers locks. Get game off Perth.. is critical.. 3 game stretch that's real tough..

"Bairstow has been quite impressive it's novel to see someone playing for us with a bit of ticker. It might not last long before he gets enough serious injury but ride him while you can. I'd actually prefer him starting over DJ but I know that's not going to happen and CJ would've only been appointed with strict instructions not to rock the DJ boat like Henry was threatening to do."

Agreed that Bairstow has been very good so far Zodiac. Loving his effort levels!
Starting DJ instead of him is not just CJ keeping JVG and DJ happy though. DJ is just flat out a better fit starting next to Humphries because he can stretch the floor. Bairstow and Humphries would get in each others way and clog up the paint.

In some matchups, they could start Withers next to Humphries instead. But I like Bairstow as our Sixth man, he is bringing great energy when he comes in and has the experience and skills to take advantage of opposing backups.

Starting DJ instead of him is not just CJ keeping JVG and DJ happy though. DJ is just flat out a better fit starting next to Humphries because he can stretch the floor. Bairstow and Humphries would get in each others way and clog up the paint.

seems to have been a real change in style of management this season - just not as interested or engaged.